"A New Day Has Come" album - Official Topic

[ryba]

I know we talked about that once, but do you know which version of the song ANDHC was recorded first? The ballad version (and then they speeded up the vocals for the radio remix) or the radio remix (and then they slowed the vocals for the ballad version)? Because it definitely sounds like it’s the exact same vocals on both versions, just a different speed

[Javito]

I know we talked about that once, but do you know which version of the song ANDHC was recorded first? The ballad version (and then they speeded up the vocals for the radio remix) or the radio remix (and then they slowed the vocals for the ballad version)? Because it definitely sounds like it’s the exact same vocals on both versions, just a different speed

 

That's a good question! And I never asked myself about that But now that you mention, I would like to know too!

[actofcontrition]

"The album was finished, Dion explains, I had recorded twenty-seven songs, it was necessary to cut ten songs as it was... Rene says to me : "It is not possible, we have already too many songs.

 

 

But whyyyyyyy?? They don't know what a double album is! lol

 

And i dont know why, but ive always thought i was the only one that love Super Love

[Javito]

But don’t worry, that’s why One Heart came for 😜

 

And oh, I ADORE Super Love, and the multiple layers of voices she does

[Taking Chances]

I know we talked about that once, but do you know which version of the song ANDHC was recorded first? The ballad version (and then they speeded up the vocals for the radio remix) or the radio remix (and then they slowed the vocals for the ballad version)? Because it definitely sounds like it’s the exact same vocals on both versions, just a different speed

 

I've always wondered about this too. I think it's probably the album version that's the original, and the radio remix is sped up. Sometimes I feel like her voice has a digital quality to it in the Radio Remix in certain places. I can't tell what it is exactly, but it's most likely that it's sped up and it makes her voice slightly digital when compared to the album version.

[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

 

But whyyyyyyy?? They don't know what a double album is! lol

 

And i dont know why, but ive always thought i was the only one that love Super Love

 

You’re not the only one. Take a look at my account name.

[gafsa]

 

 

 

But whyyyyyyy?? They don't know what a double album is! lol

 

And i dont know why, but ive always thought i was the only one that love Super Love

 

 

Oh finally, I love Superlove too, it's almost like Dangdut music

[Leo]

It's obvious that the ballad version was the original song because it has vocals that the remix doesn't. In addition, Stephan Moccio played the piano and he wrote the song!

[Simon]

It's obvious that the ballad version was the original song because it has vocals that the remix doesn't. In addition, Stephan Moccio played the piano and he wrote the song!

 

[Javito]

I always thought she recorded two versions of the song, and I mean the vocals for both versions. What makes you think she only recorded vocals for one version and then changed the pitch and tempo to make it sound faster in the remix version?

 

And what's more, we have video footage of her recording the remix version in the studio, and not viceversa...

 

Edited October 1, 2018 at 10:21 PM by Javito

[jpatdeleon09]

So the only song that she recorded for two version is a cause/on s’est aime a cause?

[Daysleeper]

So the only song that she recorded for two version is a cause/on sest aime a cause?

I think you can't compare these two songs. ANDHC is actually the same song with two versions. While À cause and On s'est aimé à cause have only lyrics in common. Everyhing else is different incl. the melody. Personally I consider them two different songs.

 

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[Javito]

Well, Super Love was already there on the original 2002 release but for US and Canada editions (don't know why), so it wasn't really a new addition, it had to be there!. Though inexplicably the EU and US editions didn't include it :doh:

 

Oh and thanks for reminding that about TGR, I didn't remember they actually included the extended version on the Collector's Edition too! I thought that was only a bonus found on the US Limited Edition (2002), but now that I've checked it is indeed included on the EU and the US pressings of the Collector's Edition too. Perfect!

 

So I answer myself here: I checked the Japanese pressing and unfortunately (surprisingly) the version of TGR here is the "album" version/short version, not the extended! That's strange, considering both the US and EU pressings went for the extended version?!

 

Well, I think we can never have everything, Japan included Super Love for their edition while the US and EU versions omited it, so I guess they make up for that with this bonus addition

[ryba]

I always thought she recorded two versions of the song, and I mean the vocals for both versions. What makes you think she only recorded vocals for one version and then changed the pitch and tempo to make it sound faster in the remix version?

 

And what's more, we have video footage of her recording the remix version in the studio, and not viceversa...

 

When you listen to both versions, the vocals are actually the same, only the speed is different. I don’t think that she actually recorded ANDHC in that video for real, neither I’m alive. I think they just did that for promotional footage and made her lip to IA and ANDHC the day when they recorded HYEBIL because the camera team was there that day.

 

But to me it sounds like she originally recorded the radio remix version and the vocals were slowed down for the ballad version

Edited October 2, 2018 at 07:58 PM by ryba

[Celine Fan 77]

So the only song that she recorded for two version is a cause/on s'est aime a cause?

 

Yes. Plus we have video footage of the recording sessions of both songs and they were done in different days.

 

I personally think that she recorded the two versions of A New Day Has Come separately, but I guess we'll never know.

 

One more obvious example of a song that was recorded one time is Sorry For Love (uptempo version for ANDHC and slower version for OH),

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Yes. Plus we have video footage of the recording sessions of both songs and they were done in different days.

 

I personally think that she recorded the two versions of A New Day Has Come separately, but I guess we'll never know.

 

One more obvious example of a song that was recorded one time is Sorry For Love (uptempo version for ANDHC and slower version for OH),

 

And the ballad was actually the intended recording for ANDHC, and then it was remixed instead. I’m so glad to have both versions. I love each for different personal reasons.

[ryba]

 

 

And the ballad was actually the intended recording for ANDHC, and then it was remixed instead. I’m so glad to have both versions. I love each for different personal reasons.

how do you know for sure?

[Davey84]

how do you know for sure?

Well you got the album version and you got the radio mix version......

 

I don't get this discussion. An album version is always original. The mix is a mix of the album version.

 

I fear that she only recorded the album version, as much as I liked it to have been 2 different recordings. Maybe that's also the reason why she has "troubles" with singing the radio mix live, because she didn't record it herself take after take in the studio.

 

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[mirage]

Well they did a good job to remix it that way like it's 2 different recordings.

 

Much better than the remixes they made now of her these days

 

Well you got the album version and you got the radio mix version......

 

I don't get this discussion. An album version is always original. The mix is a mix of the album version.

 

I fear that she only recorded the album version, as much as I liked it to have been 2 different recordings. Maybe that's also the reason why she has "troubles" with singing the radio mix live, because she didn't record it herself take after take in the studio.

 

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[ryba]

Yeah, the radio remix of andhc is such a gem! It’s really unique and there is something magical about it. I think the music video fits the song so well! It’s a really great concept Edited October 5, 2018 at 12:25 AM by ryba

[Javito]

Well I'd say most of the times she performed the remix version in 2002 she belted it without a problem and actually with such ease that she even sang it with even a higher tone than in the studio version!

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFIT7PDScKw

[Javito]

One question I always had is why Sony didn't include the 2 official bonus tracks from this album, Coulda Woulda Shoulda and All Because Of You in the same audio CD, providing there was enough space on the disc to include them. So let's see, considering an audio CD of 80 min:

 

The 17-track version of the ANDHC album has a running time of 72:25

 

Coulda Woulda Shoulda is 3:27

All Because Of You is 3:30

 

Both songs would have added an additional 6:57 minutes of music

 

So in the 17-track version of the album, the 2 bonus tracks would have perfectly fitted, the album having a total of 79:22 minutes of music.

 

But not only that, we could even have made some changes in the versions of some of the songs included:

 

Consider we put I'm Alive (Humberto Gatica Mix), which is 3:28, instead of the album version, which is 3:30;

 

And let's go with The Greatest Reward (Extended Version) which is 4:05 instead of the album version, which is 3:30. That would have required an additional 35 seconds of music.

 

So taking away the 2 extra seconds of I'm Alive (album version) and adding the 35 additional seconds of The Greatest Reward (Extended Version) we would have:

 

79:22 + 33 additional seconds = 79:55, which still fits on a 80 minute disc.

 

So a complete edition of the ANDHC album with 19 tracks, including the 2 bonus tracks and even some "easter eggs" like the Extended Version of The Greatest Reward and the Humberto Gatica Mix version of I'm Alive (almost identical to the album version, but much better IMO), would have been perfectly possible, making a delicious edition with a total running time of 79:55 minutes of music .

 

Now wonder why Sony Music didn't consider any of this back in 2002 with the Special Edition and repeated again the same standard tracklist in 2008 with the Collector's Edition of the album

Edited October 5, 2018 at 09:06 AM by Javito

[ryba]

One question I always had is why Sony didn't include the 2 official bonus tracks from this album, Coulda Woulda Shoulda and All Because Of You in the same audio CD, providing there was enough space on the disc to include them. So let's see, considering an audio CD of 80 min:

 

The 17-track version of the ANDHC album has a running time of 72:25

 

Coulda Woulda Shoulda is 3:27

All Because Of You is 3:30

 

Both songs would have added an additional 6:57 minutes of music

 

So in the 17-track version of the album, the 2 bonus tracks would have perfectly fitted, the album having a total of 79:22 minutes of music.

 

But not only that, we could even have made some changes in the versions of some of the songs included:

 

Consider we put I'm Alive (Humberto Gatica Mix), which is 3:28, instead of the album version, which is 3:30;

 

And let's go with The Greatest Reward (Extended Version) which is 4:05 instead of the album version, which is 3:30. That would have required an additional 35 seconds of music.

 

So taking away the 2 extra seconds of I'm Alive (album version) and adding the 35 additional seconds of The Greatest Reward (Extended Version) we would have:

 

79:22 + 33 additional seconds = 79:55, which still fits on a 80 minute disc.

 

So a complete edition of the ANDHC album with 19 tracks, including the 2 bonus tracks and even some "easter eggs" like the Extended Version of The Greatest Reward and the Humberto Gatica Mix version of I'm Alive (almost identical to the album version, but much better IMO), would have been perfectly possible, making a delicious edition with a total running time of 79:55 minutes of music .

 

Now wonder why Sony Music didn't consider any of this back in 2002 with the Special Edition and repeated again the same standard tracklist in 2008 with the Collector's Edition of the album

Im so glad they gave us the DVD Edited October 5, 2018 at 09:11 AM by ryba

[Javito]

Now on another side of things, let's go a bit further and play something... Considering the two bonus tracks Coulda Woulda Shoulda and All Because Of You were rejected from the final track list, if you had the chance to rearrange the track list and include those songs whenever you want in the album, where would you place them?

 

I've always considered that this album has the perfect opening and closing songs, so to me there's no other better song to finish this album than Nature Boy - it's lyrics and key message capture the themes of the album to perfection

 

So obviously listening to Coulda Woulda Shoulda or All Because Of You after Nature Boy feel kind of out of place; they have to be somewhere else throughout the album.

 

So after much thought, my ideal 19-track list of the album would be like this:

 

1.

I’M ALIVE*

2.

RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU

3.

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN LOVE

4.

RAIN, TAX (IT’S INEVITABLE)

5.

A NEW DAY HAS COME

(RADIO REMIX)

6.

TEN DAYS

7.

GOODBYE’S (THE SADDEST WORD)

8.

PRAYER

9.

I SURRENDER

10.

AT LAST

11.

COULDA WOULDA SHOULDA

12.

SUPER LOVE

13.

SORRY FOR LOVE

14.

AUN EXISTE AMOR

15.

THE GREATEST REWARD

^†

16.

WHEN THE WRONG ONE LOVES YOU RIGHT

17.

ALL BECAUSE OF YOU

18.

A NEW DAY HAS COME

19.

NATURE BOY

 

To me, the first 5-songs sequence until A New Day Has Come is untouchable, the flow and variety of styles going from uptempo, ballad and even funky styles is perfectly crafted. So not until track 6 or 7 would I start considering the inclusion of the bonus tracks.

 

So we have one uptempo song and one more ballad here, I think we'd have to put them carefully, alternating them with the other uptempo and ballad songs the album has through it.

 

I have doubts whether to put CWS between Prayer and I Surrender or between I Surrender and At Last. In any case, there are 4 ballads together there, so there's need of an uptempo song there too. In the end I put Coulda Woulda Shoulda after At Last. But like I said, it could have been either track #9 or #10.

 

With All Because Of You it happens the same, it's a ballad, so after Super Love and before the dance Sorry For Love, it could have fitted. But also between Sorry For Love and Aun Existe Amor, or after The Greatest Reward and before the uptempo WTWOLYR... In the end I thought this song has a feeling of "closing" track, so I think it fits better towards the end of the album. That's why I put it eventually after WTWOLYR and right before A New Day Has Come.

 

What do you think?

Edited October 5, 2018 at 10:21 AM by Javito

[Javito]

Also just noticed the word "love" is mentioned 5 times in the track list, Céline's lucky number

[mirage]

You got toooo much time.

 

One question I always had is why Sony didn't include the 2 official bonus tracks from this album, Coulda Woulda Shoulda and All Because Of You in the same audio CD, providing there was enough space on the disc to include them. So let's see, considering an audio CD of 80 min:

 

The 17-track version of the ANDHC album has a running time of 72:25

 

Coulda Woulda Shoulda is 3:27

All Because Of You is 3:30

 

Both songs would have added an additional 6:57 minutes of music

 

So in the 17-track version of the album, the 2 bonus tracks would have perfectly fitted, the album having a total of 79:22 minutes of music.

 

But not only that, we could even have made some changes in the versions of some of the songs included:

 

Consider we put I'm Alive (Humberto Gatica Mix), which is 3:28, instead of the album version, which is 3:30;

 

And let's go with The Greatest Reward (Extended Version) which is 4:05 instead of the album version, which is 3:30. That would have required an additional 35 seconds of music.

 

So taking away the 2 extra seconds of I'm Alive (album version) and adding the 35 additional seconds of The Greatest Reward (Extended Version) we would have:

 

79:22 + 33 additional seconds = 79:55, which still fits on a 80 minute disc.

 

So a complete edition of the ANDHC album with 19 tracks, including the 2 bonus tracks and even some "easter eggs" like the Extended Version of The Greatest Reward and the Humberto Gatica Mix version of I'm Alive (almost identical to the album version, but much better IMO), would have been perfectly possible, making a delicious edition with a total running time of 79:55 minutes of music .

 

Now wonder why Sony Music didn't consider any of this back in 2002 with the Special Edition and repeated again the same standard tracklist in 2008 with the Collector's Edition of the album

[Davey84]

What do you think?

 

That your obsession with ANDHC has gone too far and you turned into Insane Boy

[Tricey3115]

A New Day Was Such A Amazing Show

[Tricey3115]

Which was your favourite the radio remix a new day has come or the piano slower version

[Black Kitten]

Has anyone mentioned Miracle was originally intended for ANDHC? I mean, there's no way the vocals on it were recorded in '04 based on her tone alone, so I think it's safe to say it's one of those "lost songs" from the ANDHC recording sesh, no?