"Taking Chances" ALBUM on the charts

[RLAAMJR.]

ok ok ok.. those sales figures are based on shipment not actual sales.. therefore, it shows that TC sold 2.7M units (Estimated actual sales) out of 3.1M units (shipped) by the end of 2007.

i do believe that's not the way it goes... 2.7M was reported by UWC JUST last week and after all, the shipments is all that matters as the certifications are awarded according to it's shipments, not the actual sales, as it is imposible for any charts to state the exact copies sold worldwide.

 

 

I really prefer the number of albums sold and not the shipment. My! This is so confusing.

 

But you actually have a point. It really is impossible for any chart to state the exact number of copies sold worldwide.

 

How about the status of D'elles? No additional shipments?

[tal-sh2]

hehe.. what i mean is so simple.. IFPI reported that TC shipped 3.1M copies from different stores at the end 0f 2007. and the 2.7M sales provided by worldwide chart (mediatraffic?) are the actual sales.. actual sales means, it is already in the hands of the buyers. so, the difference between 3.1 and 2.7 which is .4, are those copies still in the stores. look, in canada it is certified 4 times platinum, but it only sold 320000. because that 320000 is actual sales, while the certification is based on shipment.. so same from other countries.. does this make any sense? hehehe...

Oh, got it. Thank you,

2.7 sales it's good too! It will reach the 3M the year maximum and that's great for me.

[RLAAMJR.]

hehe.. what i mean is so simple.. IFPI reported that TC shipped 3.1M copies from different stores at the end 0f 2007. and the 2.7M sales provided by worldwide chart (mediatraffic?) are the actual sales.. actual sales means, it is already in the hands of the buyers. so, the difference between 3.1 and 2.7 which is .4, are those copies still in the stores. look, in canada it is certified 4 times platinum, but it only sold 320000. because that 320000 is actual sales, while the certification is based on shipment.. so same from other countries.. does this make any sense? hehehe...

Oh, got it. Thank you,

2.7 sales it's good too! It will reach the 3M the year maximum and that's great for me.

 

 

What did you mean by your last statement? selling 3 million by the end of this year?

 

If that's what you mean, 3 million is a flop. But most people will agree with me that it will sell more than 3 million by the end of this year.

 

 

I'm losing hope that this album will reach 10 million mark. .... unless singles from the album will be doing well in the music charts the whole year.

 

But this album will surely reach 5 million copies before this year ends.

[JP]

They also said at "Flash" tonight that she almost sell 400 000 copies in Canada and over 3 millions worldwide

[tal-sh2]

They also said at "Flash" tonight that she almost sell 400 000 copies in Canada and over 3 millions worldwide

The album reached the 3M and that's it.

All who wants to make us think not like that- Save this to yourselves!

[RLAAMJR.]

Why don't we all buy another copy of the TC album again? Edited March 11, 2008 at 03:00 PM by RLAAMJR.

[Sarit31]

In France the album got to #2 (I don't know what it is now), but lots of radio channels played it down and said that it wasn't having the expected success. It just so wasn't true. It made me REALLY REALLY ANGRY!!!

[tal-sh2]

Why don't we all buy another copy of the TC album again?

Well, I save my second bought to September, the re-release edition.

And I guess that it's not just me.

[celinefanlux]

In France the album got to #2 (I don't know what it is now), but lots of radio channels played it down and said that it wasn't having the expected success. It just so wasn't true. It made me REALLY REALLY ANGRY!!!

 

It IS true in my opinion. She was in the top 10 for two mere weeks, and right now at #158(-4). So i don't think that is a big success for an artist such as Celine Dion in France...

[RLAAMJR.]

Why don't we all buy another copy of the TC album again?

Well, I save my second bought to September, the re-release edition.

And I guess that it's not just me.

 

 

How about a third copy then?

 

I already have 3 copies.

 

Dhena has the most with 8 copies.

[ahmed]

8 copies?wow i have no copie because there's no album here

[tal-sh2]

Why don't we all buy another copy of the TC album again?

Well, I save my second bought to September, the re-release edition.

And I guess that it's not just me.

 

 

How about a third copy then?

 

I already have 3 copies.

 

Dhena has the most with 8 copies.

No. I'll buy only the re-release because it's worth it.

I'll not buy multiple copies with the same songs... Not know for sure.

[Black Kitten]

lol i only have 2 copies of TC.

 

at last TC is already certified gold here after selling more than 12,000 copies (10,000 copies to be certified gold for an international album).

[Prince Whiskers]

If TCH shipped 3.1M last 2007, it's safe to assume that it has already reached the 4M mark at this time of the year.

 

Celine meeting the minimum target of 4M sold = Sony CONTINUING its relationship with Celine

[celinefanlux]

If TCH shipped 3.1M last 2007, it's safe to assume that it has already reached the 4M mark at this time of the year.

 

Celine meeting the minimum target of 4M sold = Sony CONTINUING its relationship with Celine

 

If it is safe that she has sold 900K in the 10 last weeks, then please tell me where these 900K come from??????

I'm sorry but have you seen Celine's chart positions in every countries around the world since the beginning of the year??? And are you aware how low the sales are at the beginning of the year? The second best album this year is Michael Jackson and right now he hasnt even sold 900K.

I know we are all Celine fans, but we should all stay real!

[Chula]

At least, it is a platinum in USA!

[VinnyT.]

if you count mediatraffic sales from January till now it's more than 700k so...I know mediatraffic it is not official but many of you take it into consideration many times so...

 

1st week of january 341k

2nd wekk of january 188k

 

etc etc

Edited March 12, 2008 at 05:01 PM by VinnyT.

[Sarit31]

In France the album got to #2 (I don't know what it is now), but lots of radio channels played it down and said that it wasn't having the expected success. It just so wasn't true. It made me REALLY REALLY ANGRY!!!

 

It IS true in my opinion. She was in the top 10 for two mere weeks, and right now at #158(-4). So i don't think that is a big success for an artist such as Celine Dion in France...

 

Yeah, but they played it down precisely during those 2 weeks...

[Black Kitten]

Country king Alan Jackson scores his fourth No. 1 on The Billboard 200 with his new set "Good Time." The Arista Nashville set sold 119,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. His last studio set, 2006's Alison Krauss-produced "Like Red on a Rose," started with 149,000 at No. 4. The new album's lead single, "Small Town Southern Man," continues to rise on Hot Country Songs, currently sitting at No. 2.

 

Despite a 29% sales decline, Jack Johnson's set "Sleep Through the Static" (Brushfire) climbs 3-2 on the big chart with 65,000. Janet Jackson's "Discipline" (Island Def Jam), last week's Billboard 200 topper, falls 1-3 with 57,000, a 68% hit.

 

Flogging Molly scores its highest charting album and its best sales week ever as "Float" (SideOneDummy) starts at No. 4 with 48,000. The rock band's last album, "Whiskey on a Sunday," debuted and peaked at No. 67 in 2006 with 14,000. The group's previous high-water mark was set when "Within a Mile of Home" landed at No. 20 in 2004 with 38,000.

 

The Black Crowes have their highest charting album since 1992 as "Warpaint" debuts at No. 5 with 46,000. The Silver Arrow album is the veteran act's first studio full-length in seven years -- the last was "Lions," which started with 53,000 at No. 20. In 1992, "The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion" opened at No. 1.

 

"4th World War," the first half of Erykah Badu's double album series "New Amerykah," descends 2-6 with 41,000 (-67%). With a 3% sales bump, Sara Bareilles' Epic album "Little Voice" climbs 9-7 with 39,000. Alicia Keys' "As I Am" (J) falls 5-8 with 38,000 (-33%) while Taylor Swift's self-titled Big Machine debut re-enters the top tier 12-9 with 32,000 (+1%). Amy Winehouse's Universal Republic set "Back to Black" sits tight at No. 10 for a second week with 31,000, a 16% drop.

 

 

Michael McDonald's Universal Motown covers album "Soul Speak" enters the chart at No. 12 with 28,000 copies; his last album of new material, "Motown Two," entered at No. 9 in 2004 with 70,000. Another artist that got his start on the tally in the 1970s is Jackson Browne, whose "Solo Acoustic Vol. 2" (Inside Recordings) moved 20,000 units for a No. 24 start. That beats the start of 2005's "Solo Acoustic Vol. 1," which began at No. 55 with 19,000.

 

No other sets start inside the top 50, though Stephen Malkmus & the Jicks' "Real Emotional Trash" (Matador, No. 10, 10,000), Los Tigres Del Norte's "Raices" (Fonovisa, No. 68, 10,000), Cascada's "Perfect Day" (Robbins, No. 70, 10,000) and Ashton Shepherd's "Sounds So Good" (MCA Nashville, No. 90, 8,000) all bow within the top 100.

 

Sales this week are down 3.5% from last week at 7.68 million units and down 11.3% from the same week last year.

 

seems like TC is not in the top 50 again.

just imagine, the Top 10 Back to Black sold just 31,000. can't belive the huge decrease of album sales nowadays. thank God celine got the platinum award! janet's discipline will be having a hard time reaching even a Gold status.

[Prince Whiskers]

To celinefanlux of Luxembourg: I was referring to the no. of copies SHIPPED. That's how IFPI counts the sales.

[Black Kitten]

BILLBOARD 200

 

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Edited March 13, 2008 at 01:46 PM by dhena

[celinefanlux]

To celinefanlux of Luxembourg: I was referring to the no. of copies SHIPPED. That's how IFPI counts the sales.

 

Yeah but if we are talking about chart positions and albums sold, I don't see the importance of the no. of shipped copies.

Really sad in the US... It is really a semi-flop. Its good to see that she sold almost 3million copies, but don't forget that most of the copies sold, were sold around the Christmas time. Otherwise it wouldn't look that great. But then again, I don't care when or how she sold it, what imports is THAT she soild them.

[Black Kitten]

i really don't know why some of you think that the album is a flop. it has been certified Platinum in the US. the sales of albums have decreased a lot. do you think janet's Discipline will sell 1M that easy? though she topped the US chart last week? i guess no. whatever the season is, whether its xmas, valentines, new year, if the people don't like to have it, they won't buy it.

[Your_Su_Phu]

BILLBOARD 200

 

#92 (-30)

 

:'(

 

 

at least now we know that even in this modern world of dropped album sales, celine can still manage a platinum album based solely on her name with no hit single at all

[celinefanlux]

i really don't know why some of you think that the album is a flop. it has been certified Platinum in the US. the sales of albums have decreased a lot. do you think janet's Discipline will sell 1M that easy? though she topped the US chart last week? i guess no. whatever the season is, whether its xmas, valentines, new year, if the people don't like to have it, they won't buy it.

 

First of all, I never stated that the album is a flop.

Second: In the Xmas week where Celine's album was #18, she sold 134.271 albums, only in the states, more than Janets #1 album last week.

Now be real: Do you think that this was just because almost 100 000 people liked the album more that week, than the week after, where she sold 50K being #20, or maybe because of the Xmas week??? I'm not here to offend you, but I think comparing to Celine's other albums, this is a semi flop in the States, not considering the low sales(that is normal nowadays), but considering chart positions. #100 after 13 weeks is not such a success.

[celinefanlux]

#47(-4) Canada

[celinefanlux]

Japan: #99(-16)--->(1,820) [116,759]

[Shaun]

LOL. Are Sony seeing these chart positions? Is there any strategy now at all or have they officially given up on the album?

[Black Kitten]

BILLBOARD 200

 

#92 (-30)

 

:'(

 

 

at least now we know that even in this modern world of dropped album sales, celine can still manage a platinum album based solely on her name with no hit single at all

i agree! (but why a sick emoticon?)

 

sure this album is just playing around the lower part of the charts week after week, but i don't think america has heard anything from this album. the 1st single didn't make it to the top 50, but the album still managed to sell pretty well. c'mon how many artists can do this? britney's blackout has 2 hit singles, BRITNEY SPEARS is without a doubt, a huge name in america, look at her sales. i don't know what the future holds for this album, but it has been certified PLATINUM in just 3 short months, what more can we ask for?

[RLAAMJR.]

i really don't know why some of you think that the album is a flop. it has been certified Platinum in the US. the sales of albums have decreased a lot. do you think janet's Discipline will sell 1M that easy? though she topped the US chart last week? i guess no. whatever the season is, whether its xmas, valentines, new year, if the people don't like to have it, they won't buy it.

 

First of all, I never stated that the album is a flop.

Second: In the Xmas week where Celine's album was #18, she sold 134.271 albums, only in the states, more than Janets #1 album last week.

Now be real: Do you think that this was just because almost 100 000 people liked the album more that week, than the week after, where she sold 50K being #20, or maybe because of the Xmas week??? I'm not here to offend you, but I think comparing to Celine's other albums, this is a semi flop in the States, not considering the low sales(that is normal nowadays), but considering chart positions. #100 after 13 weeks is not such a success.

 

 

I agree with you. But the difference between you and me is for me it's not a semi-flop. It is a flop because my friends don't even know the song "Taking Chances" but do know the song "Alone" regardless if they know if it was Celine singing it or not.

 

Celine has to have a "World Tour" just to sell more copies. Without the world tour, the album will not sell as much right now. Well singles didn't even do well on the charts. And the "taking chances" album actually sold better not because of the "Taking Chances" single only, but also because slowly and slowly , people knew that there's this version of "Alone" from Celine Dion which actually made more people to go ahead and buy the album.

 

And well, One Heart is a flop even if it has sold about 5 million copies worldwide. Well, only a few people know that this album actually exists. No hit singles. and if it become a hit in some countries, did it really do well.

 

 

If "Taking Chances" album will sell 10 million copies, I will still consider it but this time, a semi-flop. Well, does she really need a World Tour to sell that much? But my opinion will still change 'cos there's still one year for this album to change it's status.

 

I'm already happy if the album will sell 10 million copies but i won't consider it a hit album still, unless there are songs that will really rule in the music charts worldwide. and if that happens, surely it wouldn't just sell 10 million albums, but maybe 15 to 20 million copies.

 

We have to set a higher standard for Celine. Just like Mariah's album "Emancipation Of Mimi" , the singles did well on the charts but did it sell well? Mariah's level of success is selling at more than 10 million albums. So for me, this is a semi-flop. And her albums like "Glitter" and "Charmbracelet" are definitely flops.

 

 

An album will not be called a flop if it has singles that did well on the charts, a lot of people recognize the hit singles and that the album is selling well, that is depending on the artist/singer's status/standard.