tal-sh2 Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:06 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:06 PM how true is this? according to IFPI, Taking Chances has sold over 3.1M copies worldwide? http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/top-50-albums-2007.pdfVery reliable.Yes? WOW!!! TC sold 3.1M copies!!!! :clap: Quote "These walls keep a secret, That only we know..."http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/bambaplanet/G49272_b.jpgSorry for my English.
Bellamy Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:12 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:12 PM Yes? WOW!!! TC sold 3.1M copies!!!! :clap: And I believe that number is sales of 2007 only. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
Black Kitten Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:18 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:18 PM absolutely cause TC is one of the world's best sellers of 2007. and that figure actually is only for '07. so who knows it is close to 4M.(not being too exagerated, just an opinion) Quote
tal-sh2 Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:22 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:22 PM Yes? WOW!!! TC sold 3.1M copies!!!! :clap: And I believe that number is sales of 2007 only.Well, I hope maybe will got a confirm or something. Is there's no official source for sales? Maybe Sony? Quote "These walls keep a secret, That only we know..."http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/bambaplanet/G49272_b.jpgSorry for my English.
Bellamy Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:29 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:29 PM IFPI is more official than SONY. They won't exaggerate numbers. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
pat200 Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:57 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:57 PM well if this is the case, then she is now around the 3.5-3.7 million copies sold. but i do strongly believe that those numbers are shipments of the album in 2007 Quote
dj4celine Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:59 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 02:59 PM Yeah.. IFPI is more official cos it counts almost all the countries around the world unlike UWC or WWA... so :clap: Quote
Prince Whiskers Posted March 8, 2008 at 03:00 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 03:00 PM What the heck is that ATRL website, Bellamy? It cites IFPI as a source. Quote http://cdn.webecoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/modern-pet-solo-blown-glass.jpg
ahmed Posted March 8, 2008 at 06:16 PM Posted March 8, 2008 at 06:16 PM that's really great.3.1M is huge Quote
Andrei Dion Posted March 9, 2008 at 12:37 AM Posted March 9, 2008 at 12:37 AM Hmmmm...if 3.1 million is realiabe, all I can do is celabrate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote AMO CÉLINE CADA VEZ MAIS!!!
Black Kitten Posted March 9, 2008 at 12:50 AM Posted March 9, 2008 at 12:50 AM (edited) but what really puzzles me is that Alicia Keys' As i Am's sales according to IFPI is the same as what UWC/MT reported, 4.7M. Celine's Taking Chances' sales according to UWC/MT is 2.7M while IFPI's report is 3.1M by the end of 2007. is this a conspiracy? what the heck is happening to UWC? Edited March 9, 2008 at 12:51 AM by dhena Quote
Bellamy Posted March 9, 2008 at 04:20 AM Posted March 9, 2008 at 04:20 AM but what really puzzles me is that Alicia Keys' As i Am's sales according to IFPI is the same as what UWC/MT reported, 4.7M. Celine's Taking Chances' sales according to UWC/MT is 2.7M while IFPI's report is 3.1M by the end of 2007. is this a conspiracy? what the heck is happening to UWC?Cause many small markets don't care about Alicia at all. Same for Josh, almost all his records are sold in the US. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
RLAAMJR. Posted March 9, 2008 at 05:55 AM Posted March 9, 2008 at 05:55 AM (edited) Then that's great! That would also mean Britney Spears' album has sold more copies than what we see in worldwidealbums website. Edited March 9, 2008 at 05:55 AM by RLAAMJR. Quote
Black Kitten Posted March 9, 2008 at 06:02 AM Posted March 9, 2008 at 06:02 AM Then that's great! That would also mean Britney Spears' album has sold more copies than what we see in worldwidealbums website. sadly, no.. Blackout sold just under 2M up to this point. but the good thing is, almost 4 months had passed, TC is climbing close to 4M mark worldwide. now that's totally NOT A FLOP! Quote
Prince Whiskers Posted March 9, 2008 at 07:13 AM Posted March 9, 2008 at 07:13 AM Are we supposed to know now why Sony doesn't bother to promote the album? 'Cause it's doing just fine? Quote http://cdn.webecoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/modern-pet-solo-blown-glass.jpg
boyblackuk Posted March 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM Posted March 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM I see if there is a lot of doubters but the IFPI along with the BPI & RIAA, is the official european music regulatory body and they are the most accurate in the world. It was the IFPI that presented celine her european platinum awars which are all very official. There are 300+ countries in the world and the UWC counts 10 of them and WWA adds 7.5%, when you consider that there are many countries left out so the IFPI try and include as many countries as possible. 3.1 million does sound much more accurate....Nearly at 4 Million Copies Quote
tal-sh2 Posted March 9, 2008 at 01:59 PM Posted March 9, 2008 at 01:59 PM Yes! Nearly 4M... Also because of what written above, and also because that maybe the IFPI chart os for 2007 chart only. Quote "These walls keep a secret, That only we know..."http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/bambaplanet/G49272_b.jpgSorry for my English.
Bellamy Posted March 9, 2008 at 02:19 PM Posted March 9, 2008 at 02:19 PM Yes! Nearly 4M... Also because of what written above, and also because that maybe the IFPI chart os for 2007 chart only.Actually, not maybe, but sure. Non-sense for a 2007 top album chart count sales of beginning of 2008, and how many weeks should it count if it does. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
vagoguma Posted March 9, 2008 at 02:42 PM Posted March 9, 2008 at 02:42 PM It's a huge success for Celine that,despite having only one unsuccesful single herself,she managed to compete in sales with artists whose albums include mega-hits. Quote http://static.eventful.com/store/stickers/flash/assets/split/300x45_mid-black.gifhttp://static.eventful.com/store/stickers/flash/assets/split/300x30_bottom-black.gif
RLAAMJR. Posted March 9, 2008 at 04:56 PM Posted March 9, 2008 at 04:56 PM I think, within or about a month of the release of Celine's "All The Way... A Decade of Song" sold 10 million copies worldwide, and it was just one single "That's The Way It Is" for the album to reach that number of copies. Oh well, since "Taking Chances" is not as good, the music video is less good and Celine is less popular, and "Alone" helped the album sell more, hmmmmm.... The album should have sold 5 million copies already before February ended. If a good promotion was done upon the release and a good music video for "Taking Chances", and released "Alone" as a single on February of 2008, the album should have sold more than the exact. Quote
Bellamy Posted March 9, 2008 at 05:09 PM Posted March 9, 2008 at 05:09 PM Someone still can't get over of the sales in the 90's. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
dj4celine Posted March 9, 2008 at 08:30 PM Posted March 9, 2008 at 08:30 PM I see if there is a lot of doubters but the IFPI along with the BPI & RIAA, is the official european music regulatory body and they are the most accurate in the world. It was the IFPI that presented celine her european platinum awars which are all very official. There are 300+ countries in the world and the UWC counts 10 of them and WWA adds 7.5%, when you consider that there are many countries left out so the IFPI try and include as many countries as possible. 3.1 million does sound much more accurate....Nearly at 4 Million Copies First of all, IFPI stands for International Federation of the Phonographic Industry so it is an international organsation and not just European Second, how many countries?? Other than the above, I totally agree with you Someone still can't get over of the sales in the 90's. Oh, he can't get over many things, Bellamy 1) Celine selling over 500 million records 2) Sanjaya Malakar the BEST American Idol contestant 3) The best male rendition of IACBTN is by Enrique Salvador 4) Everyone should buy multiple copies of TCH and all other Celine albums so that she can become the best selling aritst of all times :clap: and so on... Quote
bfhb Posted March 9, 2008 at 10:24 PM Posted March 9, 2008 at 10:24 PM how is 3.1 million close to 4 million??a hit single will set the sales on fire.....but then britters has had 2 big hits and her album sales are not too hot so who knows??? Quote love doesn't ask whyspeaks from the heart and never explainsdont you know that love doesn't think twiceit can come all at once or whisper from a distance
Black Kitten Posted March 10, 2008 at 12:08 AM Posted March 10, 2008 at 12:08 AM how is 3.1 million close to 4 million?? a hit single will set the sales on fire.....but then britters has had 2 big hits and her album sales are not too hot so who knows??? that number was reported by the end of 2007. 2 months have passed, so its pretty obvious that these numbers had already increased. and why can't everybody just be happy with her sales? im sorry i don't get it. there's always complains that her sales are so weak. then what's the strong sales for her? 10M in just 4 months? well well well... Quote
celinefanlux Posted March 10, 2008 at 12:42 AM Posted March 10, 2008 at 12:42 AM (edited) I don't think that those sales are just of the copies sold in 2007. It is just that the album was relaesed in 2007; and that's why it figures under the albums of 2007. Because if it would be the sales of only 2007, I don't see where Alicia Keys would have sold 4.7 million albums in less than two months. But then again I don't understand why Amy whinehouse's album figures there, becase I think it was released in 2006 already. Damn, what a mess. Bad news in the UK: Taking Chances not in the top 100 anymore Edited March 10, 2008 at 12:46 AM by celinefanlux Quote
mike_redfox2000 Posted March 10, 2008 at 05:32 AM Posted March 10, 2008 at 05:32 AM ok ok ok.. those sales figures are based on shipment not actual sales.. therefore, it shows that TC sold 2.7M units (Estimated actual sales) out of 3.1M units (shipped) by the end of 2007. Quote
tal-sh2 Posted March 10, 2008 at 05:34 AM Posted March 10, 2008 at 05:34 AM What? how do you know that? Quote "These walls keep a secret, That only we know..."http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/bambaplanet/G49272_b.jpgSorry for my English.
Black Kitten Posted March 10, 2008 at 05:37 AM Posted March 10, 2008 at 05:37 AM (edited) ok ok ok.. those sales figures are based on shipment not actual sales.. therefore, it shows that TC sold 2.7M units (Estimated actual sales) out of 3.1M units (shipped) by the end of 2007.i do believe that's not the way it goes... 2.7M was reported by UWC JUST last week and after all, the shipments is all that matters as the certifications are awarded according to it's shipments, not the actual sales, as it is imposible for any charts to state the exact copies sold worldwide. Edited March 10, 2008 at 05:40 AM by dhena Quote
mike_redfox2000 Posted March 10, 2008 at 05:51 AM Posted March 10, 2008 at 05:51 AM hehe.. what i mean is so simple.. IFPI reported that TC shipped 3.1M copies from different stores at the end 0f 2007. and the 2.7M sales provided by worldwide chart (mediatraffic?) are the actual sales.. actual sales means, it is already in the hands of the buyers. so, the difference between 3.1 and 2.7 which is .4, are those copies still in the stores. look, in canada it is certified 4 times platinum, but it only sold 320000. because that 320000 is actual sales, while the certification is based on shipment.. so same from other countries.. does this make any sense? hehehe... Quote
Prince Whiskers Posted March 10, 2008 at 09:07 AM Posted March 10, 2008 at 09:07 AM I've just been to the IFPI site and yes, sales figures are based on "net wholesale shipments". I think Celine's current tour will have stores from each country in her itinerary clamoring for *additional* copies of the album. Quote http://cdn.webecoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/modern-pet-solo-blown-glass.jpg
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