"Taking Chances" ALBUM on the charts

[Prince Whiskers]

ALL THE WAY...A DECADE OF SONG

U.S. Top Pop Catalog - 22 (43)

Big jump.

It reportedly sold over 4,000 copies.

[Timster]

I've just bought Taking Chances with both bonus tracks here in Japan! And the Complete Best! I'm so happy! So glad they have HMVs out here lol!

[emi&celine]

ALL THE WAY...A DECADE OF SONG

U.S. Top Pop Catalog - 22 (43)

Big jump.

It reportedly sold over 4,000 copies.

 

1.2 millions more copies to sold and Céline will be the only female artist to have three Diamond albums in the United States

[pat200]

ALL THE WAY...A DECADE OF SONG

U.S. Top Pop Catalog - 22 (43)

Big jump.

It reportedly sold over 4,000 copies.

 

1.2 millions more copies to sold and Céline will be the only female artist to have three Diamond albums in the United States

 

 

The album is actually around 9.7 million copies in the US if you count music club sales, but unfortunately the music club numbers were never made public for this album. by the way, Shania Twain already has 3 diamond albums in the US even though one of them is a double album and actually shipped 5.5 million (so 11x Platinum since double album).

Her albums in the US such as Celine Dion, Falling Into You, Let's Talk About Love, All the Way, and Collector Series are all undercertified.

[Black Kitten]

The album is actually around 9.7 million copies in the US if you count music club sales, but unfortunately the music club numbers were never made public for this album. by the way, Shania Twain already has 3 diamond albums in the US even though one of them is a double album and actually shipped 5.5 million (so 11x Platinum since double album).

Her albums in the US such as Celine Dion, Falling Into You, Let's Talk About Love, All the Way, and Collector Series are all undercertified.

true. she'll just share the title with Shania's 3 Diamond albums.

 

...but ATW was only certified 7x Platinum in America, while Mariah's debut album and Whitney's sophomore release were both certified 9x Platinum. so it's not actually a good marathon as RIAA doesn't count the music club sales.

[Xpresso]

The album is actually around 9.7 million copies in the US if you count music club sales, but unfortunately the music club numbers were never made public for this album. by the way, Shania Twain already has 3 diamond albums in the US even though one of them is a double album and actually shipped 5.5 million (so 11x Platinum since double album).

Her albums in the US such as Celine Dion, Falling Into You, Let's Talk About Love, All the Way, and Collector Series are all undercertified.

 

 

Shania has 3 Diamond albums in the US? Are you sure? Aside from Come On Over, what are the other two?

Sorry... it's not about Celine but I'm curious...

[Bellamy]

Shania has 3 Diamond albums in the US? Are you sure? Aside from Come On Over, what are the other two?

Sorry... it's not about Celine but I'm curious...

The Woman In Me, Up.

[Prince Whiskers]

Dang, they should've made ATW a double CD. The greatest hits (including those that were unjustifiably omitted) on Disc 1 and the new songs on Disc 2.

[Bellamy]

Dang, they should've made ATW a double CD. The greatest hits (including those that were unjustifiably omitted) on Disc 1 and the new songs on Disc 2.

Yes, it would be close to two diamonds.

[Black Kitten]

i'm still wondering why the heck Mariah's Music Box reached the Diamond status when it only sold a little over 7M copies in America and Daydream sold between 8.5-9M copies? while celine's Falling into You sold 11.8M copies, but it was only certified 11x Platinum? i know it's all about the album shipment, but my goodness i would never believe that Falling into You didn't reach the 12M shipments in America! WTH!

 

same thing with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. it sold a little over 14M, but it reached the 16x Platinum status.

Edited August 18, 2008 at 12:47 AM by dhena

[max24]

Taking Chances album re-entered the UK chart 3 weeks ago at #127. Last week it was #102 and this week it's #93!!!!!!

[one heart]

:clapping: :clap: :clap: :wub:

[CelineHayatiAna]

she`s on the chart again

[pat200]

i'm still wondering why the heck Mariah's Music Box reached the Diamond status when it only sold a little over 7M copies in America and Daydream sold between 8.5-9M copies? while celine's Falling into You sold 11.8M copies, but it was only certified 11x Platinum? i know it's all about the album shipment, but my goodness i would never believe that Falling into You didn't reach the 12M shipments in America! WTH!

 

same thing with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. it sold a little over 14M, but it reached the 16x Platinum status.

 

Because music club sales were counted for all of mariah's album certifications (almost). By the way, FIY is with the other music club sales that we don't know of, around 13.5 million units sold, and LTAL is about 12.5 million according to a very good sales analyser MJDangerous.

[Kyle_Jared]

WOW! Up to #93 in the UK!!!

 

 

Sony----DONT BLOW THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Get a single out now...or is she getting airplay with somthing we dont know about?????????

[tal-sh2]

WOW! Up to #93 in the UK!!!

 

 

Sony----DONT BLOW THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Get a single out now...or is she getting airplay with somthing we dont know about?????????

Great.

I really hope for a single too.

[Prince Whiskers]

i'm still wondering why the heck Mariah's Music Box reached the Diamond status when it only sold a little over 7M copies in America and Daydream sold between 8.5-9M copies? while celine's Falling into You sold 11.8M copies, but it was only certified 11x Platinum? i know it's all about the album shipment, but my goodness i would never believe that Falling into You didn't reach the 12M shipments in America! WTH!

 

same thing with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. it sold a little over 14M, but it reached the 16x Platinum status.

 

Because music club sales were counted for all of mariah's album certifications (almost). By the way, FIY is with the other music club sales that we don't know of, around 13.5 million units sold, and LTAL is about 12.5 million according to a very good sales analyser MJDangerous.

So then, why is it different with Celine?

[Costa Santos]

Taking Chances album re-entered the UK chart 3 weeks ago at #127. Last week it was #102 and this week it's #93!!!!!!

[ANewDay...]

great news about the UK charts...

 

i continue to hope that TAKING CHANCES sales increase in NORTH AMERICA with this leg of the tour...

 

could it be time for an actual SINGLE, SONY? how about MY LOVE or EYES ON ME?

 

- ANewDay...

[Black Kitten]

i'm still wondering why the heck Mariah's Music Box reached the Diamond status when it only sold a little over 7M copies in America and Daydream sold between 8.5-9M copies? while celine's Falling into You sold 11.8M copies, but it was only certified 11x Platinum? i know it's all about the album shipment, but my goodness i would never believe that Falling into You didn't reach the 12M shipments in America! WTH!

 

same thing with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. it sold a little over 14M, but it reached the 16x Platinum status.

 

Because music club sales were counted for all of mariah's album certifications (almost). By the way, FIY is with the other music club sales that we don't know of, around 13.5 million units sold, and LTAL is about 12.5 million according to a very good sales analyser MJDangerous.

So then, why is it different with Celine?

is it because she's not American like Mariah? funny how RIAA can be that stupid

[Prince Whiskers]

The album has gone less than 4 euros in the UK. That could be the reason for its revival in the charts.

 

dhena, even Unison and CD are undercertified by the RIAA.

[Black Kitten]

The album has gone less than 4 euros in the UK. That could be the reason for its revival in the charts.

 

dhena, even Unison and CD are undercertified by the RIAA.

i don't know about Unison, but with celine dion, i think it should be certified 3x Platinum as its sales is really REALLY close to 3M already.

[pat200]

i'm still wondering why the heck Mariah's Music Box reached the Diamond status when it only sold a little over 7M copies in America and Daydream sold between 8.5-9M copies? while celine's Falling into You sold 11.8M copies, but it was only certified 11x Platinum? i know it's all about the album shipment, but my goodness i would never believe that Falling into You didn't reach the 12M shipments in America! WTH!

 

same thing with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. it sold a little over 14M, but it reached the 16x Platinum status.

 

Because music club sales were counted for all of mariah's album certifications (almost). By the way, FIY is with the other music club sales that we don't know of, around 13.5 million units sold, and LTAL is about 12.5 million according to a very good sales analyser MJDangerous.

So then, why is it different with Celine?

 

It is because Mariah was modelled by Sony as the new Whitney so they needed to vamp up her image in any way possible. She started off selling very well (unlike Celine), so they started certifying every single album possible to make her sound like she is the world's best seller (which she was for a few years in the US). Other tactics they used were her ridiculous 7 octave range (to be honest, musically speaking, she barely has 2.5 because whistling is not considered musical, but in pop apparently they use it as part of the range).

 

As for Celine Dion the album, its sales in the US are 2.3 million + 0.624 million from BMG music club. That alone, without the other music club sales, is 2.924 million. So 3xPlatinum is definitelt achieved for that album

[celinefanlux]

The album has gone less than 4 euros in the UK. That could be the reason for its revival in the charts.

 

Sorry, it's not less than 4 euros, but less than 4 pounds. Otherwise it would sell much more. LOL

[Nikosn17]

i'm still wondering why the heck Mariah's Music Box reached the Diamond status when it only sold a little over 7M copies in America and Daydream sold between 8.5-9M copies? while celine's Falling into You sold 11.8M copies, but it was only certified 11x Platinum? i know it's all about the album shipment, but my goodness i would never believe that Falling into You didn't reach the 12M shipments in America! WTH!

 

same thing with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. it sold a little over 14M, but it reached the 16x Platinum status.

 

Because music club sales were counted for all of mariah's album certifications (almost). By the way, FIY is with the other music club sales that we don't know of, around 13.5 million units sold, and LTAL is about 12.5 million according to a very good sales analyser MJDangerous.

So then, why is it different with Celine?

 

It is because Mariah was modelled by Sony as the new Whitney so they needed to vamp up her image in any way possible. She started off selling very well (unlike Celine), so they started certifying every single album possible to make her sound like she is the world's best seller (which she was for a few years in the US). Other tactics they used were her ridiculous 7 octave range (to be honest, musically speaking, she barely has 2.5 because whistling is not considered musical, but in pop apparently they use it as part of the range).

 

As for Celine Dion the album, its sales in the US are 2.3 million + 0.624 million from BMG music club. That alone, without the other music club sales, is 2.924 million. So 3xPlatinum is definitelt achieved for that album

 

Few years or 1 decade? She is the best selling female artist of the 90's and there's no doubt about it.

What means 2.5 barely without whistle? First of all this is not true cause she has a little more than 3 octaves (without the whistle) and second of all do you think any of the biggest female voices like Celine or Whitney have bigger range than that to call it barely? Not to talk about that I can't see why we wouldn't count the whistle register cause it's part of her voice. Without it her range is pretty much the same as Celine's. Record companies certifie singles and albums. If they are lazy and don't do it then it's their problem. What is the point of jumping on other artists because their albums are certified...

Edited August 19, 2008 at 03:09 PM by Nikosn17

[pat200]

i'm still wondering why the heck Mariah's Music Box reached the Diamond status when it only sold a little over 7M copies in America and Daydream sold between 8.5-9M copies? while celine's Falling into You sold 11.8M copies, but it was only certified 11x Platinum? i know it's all about the album shipment, but my goodness i would never believe that Falling into You didn't reach the 12M shipments in America! WTH!

 

same thing with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. it sold a little over 14M, but it reached the 16x Platinum status.

 

Because music club sales were counted for all of mariah's album certifications (almost). By the way, FIY is with the other music club sales that we don't know of, around 13.5 million units sold, and LTAL is about 12.5 million according to a very good sales analyser MJDangerous.

So then, why is it different with Celine?

 

It is because Mariah was modelled by Sony as the new Whitney so they needed to vamp up her image in any way possible. She started off selling very well (unlike Celine), so they started certifying every single album possible to make her sound like she is the world's best seller (which she was for a few years in the US). Other tactics they used were her ridiculous 7 octave range (to be honest, musically speaking, she barely has 2.5 because whistling is not considered musical, but in pop apparently they use it as part of the range).

 

As for Celine Dion the album, its sales in the US are 2.3 million + 0.624 million from BMG music club. That alone, without the other music club sales, is 2.924 million. So 3xPlatinum is definitelt achieved for that album

 

Few years or 1 decade? She is the best selling female artist of the 90's and there's no doubt about it.

What means 2.5 barely without whistle? First of all this is not true cause she has a little more than 3 octaves (without the whistle) and second of all do you think any of the biggest female voices like Celine or Whitney have bigger range than that to call it barely? Not to talk about that I can't see why we wouldn't count the whistle register cause it's part of her voice. Without it her range is pretty much the same as Celine's. Record companies certifie singles and albums. If they are lazy and don't do it then it's their problem. What is the point of jumping on other artists because their albums are certified...

 

 

1- I didn't say it is her fault that her albums are certified properly (mariah's). it is the fault of the record company in celine's case

 

2- According to opera, any note above A6, B6 or max C7 is not musical. A musical note is one you can sing with vibrato, something that mariah's whistles can't do! So basically her musical range is 3 octave (forgot about some low notes she hit, my fault), which is the same as both celine's and whitney's.

 

3- By saying "barely", i didn't mean that it is not much, because 2.5-3 octaves is a lot, but it was in the context of comparing it to the 7 octaves sony claimed at the beginning of her career.

 

4- And by few years, i meant she had the best selling albums + singles total inthe US a few years. Everyone knows she was the best selling female artist of the decade in the US

Edited August 19, 2008 at 03:28 PM by pat200

[Nikosn17]

i'm still wondering why the heck Mariah's Music Box reached the Diamond status when it only sold a little over 7M copies in America and Daydream sold between 8.5-9M copies? while celine's Falling into You sold 11.8M copies, but it was only certified 11x Platinum? i know it's all about the album shipment, but my goodness i would never believe that Falling into You didn't reach the 12M shipments in America! WTH!

 

same thing with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. it sold a little over 14M, but it reached the 16x Platinum status.

 

Because music club sales were counted for all of mariah's album certifications (almost). By the way, FIY is with the other music club sales that we don't know of, around 13.5 million units sold, and LTAL is about 12.5 million according to a very good sales analyser MJDangerous.

So then, why is it different with Celine?

 

It is because Mariah was modelled by Sony as the new Whitney so they needed to vamp up her image in any way possible. She started off selling very well (unlike Celine), so they started certifying every single album possible to make her sound like she is the world's best seller (which she was for a few years in the US). Other tactics they used were her ridiculous 7 octave range (to be honest, musically speaking, she barely has 2.5 because whistling is not considered musical, but in pop apparently they use it as part of the range).

 

As for Celine Dion the album, its sales in the US are 2.3 million + 0.624 million from BMG music club. That alone, without the other music club sales, is 2.924 million. So 3xPlatinum is definitelt achieved for that album

 

Few years or 1 decade? She is the best selling female artist of the 90's and there's no doubt about it.

What means 2.5 barely without whistle? First of all this is not true cause she has a little more than 3 octaves (without the whistle) and second of all do you think any of the biggest female voices like Celine or Whitney have bigger range than that to call it barely? Not to talk about that I can't see why we wouldn't count the whistle register cause it's part of her voice. Without it her range is pretty much the same as Celine's. Record companies certifie singles and albums. If they are lazy and don't do it then it's their problem. What is the point of jumping on other artists because their albums are certified...

 

 

1- I didn't say it is her fault that her albums are certified properly (mariah's). it is the fault of the record company in celine's case

 

2- According to opera, any note above A6, B6 or max C7 is not musical. A musical note is one you can sing with vibrato, something that mariah's whistles can't do! So basically her musical range is 3 octave (forgot about some low notes she hit, my fault), which is the same as both celine's and whitney's.

 

3- By saying "barely", i didn't mean that it is not much, because 2.5-3 octaves is a lot, but it was in the context of comparing it to the 7 octaves sony claimed at the beginning of her career.

 

4- And by few years, i meant she had the best selling albums + singles total inthe US a few years. Everyone knows she was the best selling female artist of the decade in the US

 

You didn't say it's her fault but you bring up that her singles and albums were all certified... and I can't see what has that to do with Celine. She can do vibrato with her whistles actually. So basically her range can't be any higher since they don't count the whistle notes. I don't know if it's musical or not but she does it. Her whislte notes are not some random screams... they are notes. I don't find anything un-musical. I believe she is the best selling female artist of the 90's not only in USA. Not 100% sure about it but I think so.

And actually Sony never promoted her as 7-octave range. That was what some medias made up. Her voice is 5.2 octaves. Or at least that's what her studio recordings showed. If we count the live performances it could be a bit bigger but it isn't such a big difference.

Edited August 19, 2008 at 03:44 PM by Nikosn17

[pat200]

I answered a question someone asked why are mariah's music club sales included in her certifications and celine's not, so basically you did not understand it from the beginning.

 

There is nothing musical about whistling and please don't take me for that, but take all the music professors and professionals everywhere.

 

As for being the best selling female artist of the 90 worldwide, that title goes to celine, who was the overall best selling artist of the 90s and this is based on actual sales, certifications and facts. mariah is a very close second though, especially due to her singles sales. That point was actually said by sony at the time when both were still on the same label. The release of all the way was actually the one that made that title go in celine's way.

Edited August 19, 2008 at 03:46 PM by pat200

[pat200]

Mariah's total range with whistles is A2-G#7 which means basically 5 octaves. and that G#7 was the live note, she never recorded it, so her range can't be wider.

[dj4celine]

Guys, can we keep this thread to its topic title?

 

Please not another Mariah vs. Celine here