pat200 Posted July 16, 2026 at 10:30 PM Posted July 16, 2026 at 10:30 PM On 7/16/2026 at 1:56 PM, meandmrjones said: I'd rather have Céline sing solo than waste one of her last big collaborations on Lara. Such a sad thing to say... Quote
celine2199 Posted July 17, 2026 at 02:04 AM Posted July 17, 2026 at 02:04 AM On 7/17/2026 at 4:56 AM, meandmrjones said: I'd rather have Céline sing solo than waste one of her last big collaborations on Lara. Don't worry, it's not gonna happen... I think the chance Fabian has her duet with Céline is about the same as I have my duet with Céline...😏 1 1 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 17, 2026 at 02:38 AM Posted July 17, 2026 at 02:38 AM On 7/16/2026 at 11:32 PM, pat200 said: Amazing the disrespect people on here show to Lara. She is a singer of the highest caliber who has preserved her voice better than Celine and still releases music that is good. Her last french album Je suis la, was a beautiful listen from start to end, I can't skip any song. When the greatest voices sing together on a song, it is a treat to the ears. Celine sang with Barbra, Ginette, Aretha (live). It was a pity her voice and Whitney's never joined on a song, I hope she gets to sing live at least with Lara, it could be magical, and when the 2 biggest French voices EVER join forces, it can be a song for the ages. At least I hope so assuming they make the right song choice. I think having a duet with Lara would be amazing if it happened during 90’s or even 00’s but in this era where Celine has already a condition. I don’t think it’s ok to have a duet now with anyone. Let’s see in her upcoming tour on how strong her vocals is. About Lara’s voice you saying preserved well. Well, she doesn’t tour much as Celine has started in the 90’s. The amount of shows she did. Even Mariah can’t do those shows. Don’t you noticed Mariah’s tour even in the 90’s are so short. Lara is doing shows since 90’s are short tours and more of local shows. So, yeah truly preserved. Quote
Popular Post ordinary fan Posted July 17, 2026 at 06:29 AM Popular Post Posted July 17, 2026 at 06:29 AM (edited) Seems a little off topic regarding the latest posts here but never mind haha BPM has now 1m+ views on YouTube Spotify: 1.400.608 streams Edited July 17, 2026 at 06:30 AM by ordinary fan 6 2 Quote
Del Posted July 17, 2026 at 03:44 PM Posted July 17, 2026 at 03:44 PM On 7/16/2026 at 11:38 PM, jpatdeleon09 said: I think having a duet with Lara would be amazing if it happened during 90’s or even 00’s but in this era where Celine has already a condition. I don’t think it’s ok to have a duet now with anyone. Let’s see in her upcoming tour on how strong her vocals is. About Lara’s voice you saying preserved well. Well, she doesn’t tour much as Celine has started in the 90’s. The amount of shows she did. Even Mariah can’t do those shows. Don’t you noticed Mariah’s tour even in the 90’s are so short. Lara is doing shows since 90’s are short tours and more of local shows. So, yeah truly preserved. Lara's had voice issues in the past and has done a lot of work with her vocal coach to have the voice she has today. She explained this on the TVA show L'effet Lara. I'm sure Céline works hard as well but Lara's voice preservation is not just due to less shows but also a lot of hard work. 2 Quote Instagram: @delphis78
LukeD Posted July 20, 2026 at 03:16 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 03:16 PM BMP is out of the French Single Charts 💀 1 Quote
Ajax Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:01 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:01 PM Last weekend I was having dinner with some friends when, out of nowhere, someone played BPM just to show how bad it was and make fun of her pronunciation, those awful overly nasal improvisations, singing with a mouth full of words, etc. It was honestly sad. That song should never have been released. There was so much excitement surrounding her return to the stage, the chance to see this great singer again… and then she puts out something like this. I honestly don’t have the words. No one is paying to hear or see that. It’s genuinely heartbreaking. It’s the fastest way to kill the excitement and make all the anticipation disappear in an instant. So what’s next, seriously? Is she going to keep singing like this? 1 1 Quote
george_matei Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:30 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:30 PM (edited) On 7/20/2026 at 7:01 PM, Ajax said: Last weekend I was having dinner with some friends when, out of nowhere, someone played BPM just to show how bad it was and make fun of her pronunciation, those awful overly nasal improvisations, singing with a mouth full of words, etc. It was honestly sad. That song should never have been released. There was so much excitement surrounding her return to the stage, the chance to see this great singer again… and then she puts out something like this. I honestly don’t have the words. No one is paying to hear or see that. It’s genuinely heartbreaking. It’s the fastest way to kill the excitement and make all the anticipation disappear in an instant. So what’s next, seriously? Is she going to keep singing like this? I think there is a bit of an exaggeration. This song is not killing anything. We had much worse songs than this one and sold out tours in the same time. Some tracks on the Courage album sounded even more "atrocious" than BPM and the album sold over 700K worldwide and over 100M streams on Spotify alone. Worst case - a weak song that nobody gives a s*** about. Case closed. Edited July 20, 2026 at 04:33 PM by george_matei 2 Quote
celine2199 Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:31 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:31 PM On 7/21/2026 at 12:01 AM, Ajax said: Last weekend I was having dinner with some friends when, out of nowhere, someone played BPM just to show how bad it was and make fun of her pronunciation, those awful overly nasal improvisations, singing with a mouth full of words, etc. It was honestly sad. That song should never have been released. There was so much excitement surrounding her return to the stage, the chance to see this great singer again… and then she puts out something like this. I honestly don’t have the words. No one is paying to hear or see that. It’s genuinely heartbreaking. It’s the fastest way to kill the excitement and make all the anticipation disappear in an instant. So what’s next, seriously? Is she going to keep singing like this? Nobody gives a flying fxxk about what you or your friends think.... Has it ever occurred to you that you're not the most important person in the world and your opinion is irrelevant? 2 Quote
KyleVan41 Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:35 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:35 PM On 7/20/2026 at 1:01 PM, Ajax said: Last weekend I was having dinner with some friends when, out of nowhere, someone played BPM just to show how bad it was and make fun of her pronunciation, those awful overly nasal improvisations, singing with a mouth full of words, etc. It was honestly sad. That song should never have been released. There was so much excitement surrounding her return to the stage, the chance to see this great singer again… and then she puts out something like this. I honestly don’t have the words. No one is paying to hear or see that. It’s genuinely heartbreaking. It’s the fastest way to kill the excitement and make all the anticipation disappear in an instant. So what’s next, seriously? Is she going to keep singing like this? You’re as clueless as a lamb. frig off out of here. 1 1 Quote
Ajax Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:38 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:38 PM On 7/20/2026 at 9:30 AM, george_matei said: I think there is a bit of an exaggeration. This song is not killing anything. We had much worse songs than this one and sold out tours in the same time. Some tracks on the Courage album sounded even more "atrocious" than BPM and the album sold over 700K worldwide and over 100M streams on Spotify online. Worst case - a weak song that nobody gives a s*** about. Case closed. Yes, until the day when… I’d say the gap between the marketing, the hype, and this song is particularly striking. And no, I don’t think it can be compared to some of the admittedly pretty rough vocal performances on Courage or Encore un soir. This is clearly on another level, both in terms of the pronunciation and the voice itself. The damage to her chest voice seems irreversible. It no longer has any natural projection unless it’s heavily processed in the studio or masked by that tunnel-like vocal effect. 1 Quote
george_matei Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:43 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:43 PM On 7/20/2026 at 7:38 PM, Ajax said: Yes, until the day when… I’d say the gap between the marketing, the hype, and this song is particularly striking. And no, I don’t think it can be compared to some of the admittedly pretty rough vocal performances on Courage or Encore un soir. This is clearly on another level, both in terms of the pronunciation and the voice itself. The damage to her chest voice seems irreversible. It no longer has any natural projection unless it’s heavily processed in the studio or masked by that tunnel-like vocal effect. Nobody was hyped about this song except some fans and, clearly, there was no marketing behind it. Case closed. Wait until September and we'll talk about later about her voice. Superwomand and The Prayer live on CWT were around the same time and these are two totally different sounds, so yeah, "until the day we see her live". 3 Quote
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Ajax Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:52 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 04:52 PM On 7/20/2026 at 9:43 AM, george_matei said: Nobody was hyped about this song except some fans and, clearly, there was no marketing behind it. Case closed. Wait until September and we'll talk about later about her voice. Superwomand and The Prayer live on CWT were around the same time and these are two totally different sounds, so yeah, "until the day we see her live". I’m referring to the marketing surrounding her comeback, especially in connection with the concerts. And yes, I agree there have always been vocal inconsistencies, like on The Prayer and other songs. But to me, we’ve never seen the quality drop this low before. 1 Quote
yoyoma88 Posted July 20, 2026 at 05:27 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 05:27 PM On 7/20/2026 at 12:52 PM, Ajax said: I’m referring to the marketing surrounding her comeback, especially in connection with the concerts. And yes, I agree there have always been vocal inconsistencies, like on The Prayer and other songs. But to me, we’ve never seen the quality drop this low before. Now you are downplaying your earlier criticism to the marketing team, but your first post was about being embarassed with how she sounded. Noone can sound the same forever. Look at elton john voice, whitney, mariah. We knew celine and shania had issues that affected their voice big time but they are very determined to still give the voice. Like an athlete who had leg injuries and still play. After the SPS, i truly believe it is not that her trying to sound more nasal but the vocal chord prevented her to sing like she was used to. Many artist admired her discipline but human body is a limit At this stage, i am very glad that she is still with us and still record songs. I would rather that than just listening to her same old repertoires. 1 Quote
Ajax Posted July 20, 2026 at 06:35 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 06:35 PM On 7/20/2026 at 10:27 AM, yoyoma88 said: Now you are downplaying your earlier criticism to the marketing team, but your first post was about being embarassed with how she sounded. Noone can sound the same forever. Look at elton john voice, whitney, mariah. We knew celine and shania had issues that affected their voice big time but they are very determined to still give the voice. Like an athlete who had leg injuries and still play. After the SPS, i truly believe it is not that her trying to sound more nasal but the vocal chord prevented her to sing like she was used to. Many artist admired her discipline but human body is a limit At this stage, i am very glad that she is still with us and still record songs. I would rather that than just listening to her same old repertoires. Not at all. I’m talking about the huge gap between the expectations created by her concert comeback and what she actually delivered musically. It’s astronomical. It simply isn’t up to the level people were expecting. If she had released songs of this quality back in the day, she probably wouldn’t have filled her own garage. That said, I have nothing but respect for her courage and everything she’s been through. She’s extraordinary, and there’s no denying that. But that doesn’t stop me from objectively assessing the quality of what she’s puts out. I honestly think that even with the voice she has left, she should still be able to pronounce a word like “aime” properly, among others. And as for the song itself… And under those circumstances, I honestly think it’s better to stop. I’m convinced she could begin a new artistic chapter by approaching music differently and embracing a voice that, more than ever, tells her story. But watching this pattern continue—where apparently no one is willing to tell her, “No, you don’t say ‘Sheww twime,’ you say ‘Je t’aime’”—is actually quite sad. 3 Quote
LukeD Posted July 20, 2026 at 06:53 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 06:53 PM (edited) I agree with many of the criticisms, I just do not hear any vocal damage. Poor enunciation? Sure. An unnecessary backed placement? Yes! But damage? I do not think so. When she showed us her damaged voice due to SPS, she sounded very throaty and constricted, nothing like she sounds in BPM. I actually think she sound stronger in BPM than in 'Dansons', which was also recorded earlier. Edited July 20, 2026 at 06:54 PM by LukeD 3 Quote
Ajax Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:27 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:27 PM I associate the pronunciation issues with her vocal fragility. I do think there’s a connection, related to the vocal adjustments she has to make to work around her condition. “Dansons” was actually fairly clean. You could clearly hear that she was taking her time to articulate the words carefully. Her tone sounded relatively bright and open. But it was also heavily processed vocally, in my opinion, to enhance the projection she’s lost. All those layers of vocal processing serve a purpose. It’s not just because that’s how music is produced today. I think they’re masking a real issue with vocal placement, a lack of projection, probably resonance as well, and perhaps even intonation. On the very first “Merci,” it seems to me that, beneath all the processing, you can hear her chest voice crack and completely lose its projection—exactly as she described in the documentary. But that’s just my opinion. Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted July 20, 2026 at 10:12 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 10:12 PM On 7/20/2026 at 5:01 PM, Ajax said: Last weekend I was having dinner with some friends when, out of nowhere, someone played BPM just to show how bad it was and make fun of her pronunciation, those awful overly nasal improvisations, singing with a mouth full of words, etc. It was honestly sad. That song should never have been released. There was so much excitement surrounding her return to the stage, the chance to see this great singer again… and then she puts out something like this. I honestly don’t have the words. No one is paying to hear or see that. It’s genuinely heartbreaking. It’s the fastest way to kill the excitement and make all the anticipation disappear in an instant. So what’s next, seriously? Is she going to keep singing like this? Don’t believe a word of any of that. Complete rubbish. Kev x 4 1 Quote
Nmj Posted July 20, 2026 at 10:48 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 10:48 PM On 7/20/2026 at 6:12 PM, Peppercorn1991 said: Don’t believe a word of any of that. Complete rubbish. Kev x Lots of rubbish running around here lately. Partly to blame on Celine too. Both of her “performances” the Elie Saab show and the Paris games performance were lipped…. Now we have people speculating if she’s able to pull it off or not live based off of two new French songs… Truth is we have no reason to believe she can’t pull it off anymore, she’s agreed to comeback so let’s give her the benefit of the doubt that she wouldn’t be doing that if she wasn’t capable. I’d be willing to bet that in Paris we will hear her best vocals live in the last 8-10 years. 3 Quote
Alex_Incognito Posted July 21, 2026 at 12:59 AM Posted July 21, 2026 at 12:59 AM On 7/20/2026 at 11:01 AM, Ajax said: Last weekend I was having dinner with some friends when, out of nowhere, someone played BPM just to show how bad it was and make fun of her pronunciation, those awful overly nasal improvisations, singing with a mouth full of words, etc. It was honestly sad. I'm willing to bet this never happened. 4 Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
Nmj Posted July 21, 2026 at 01:15 AM Posted July 21, 2026 at 01:15 AM On 7/20/2026 at 8:59 PM, Alex_Incognito said: I'm willing to bet this never happened. This place is a running grounds for some people who use words for sake of using words. I feel like words aren’t meant for everyone 🤣 2 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted July 21, 2026 at 02:09 AM Posted July 21, 2026 at 02:09 AM On 7/20/2026 at 2:35 PM, Ajax said: Not at all. I’m talking about the huge gap between the expectations created by her concert comeback and what she actually delivered musically. It’s astronomical. It simply isn’t up to the level people were expecting. If she had released songs of this quality back in the day, she probably wouldn’t have filled her own garage. That said, I have nothing but respect for her courage and everything she’s been through. She’s extraordinary, and there’s no denying that. But that doesn’t stop me from objectively assessing the quality of what she’s puts out. I honestly think that even with the voice she has left, she should still be able to pronounce a word like “aime” properly, among others. And as for the song itself… And under those circumstances, I honestly think it’s better to stop. I’m convinced she could begin a new artistic chapter by approaching music differently and embracing a voice that, more than ever, tells her story. But watching this pattern continue—where apparently no one is willing to tell her, “No, you don’t say ‘Sheww twime,’ you say ‘Je t’aime’”—is actually quite sad. On 7/20/2026 at 3:27 PM, Ajax said: I associate the pronunciation issues with her vocal fragility. I do think there’s a connection, related to the vocal adjustments she has to make to work around her condition. “Dansons” was actually fairly clean. You could clearly hear that she was taking her time to articulate the words carefully. Her tone sounded relatively bright and open. But it was also heavily processed vocally, in my opinion, to enhance the projection she’s lost. All those layers of vocal processing serve a purpose. It’s not just because that’s how music is produced today. I think they’re masking a real issue with vocal placement, a lack of projection, probably resonance as well, and perhaps even intonation. On the very first “Merci,” it seems to me that, beneath all the processing, you can hear her chest voice crack and completely lose its projection—exactly as she described in the documentary. But that’s just my opinion. I’ve listened to this song a million times with different audio devices and I’m not hearing what you’re hearing. I don’t hear her singing “sheww twime” nor do I hear her voice cracking on the first “merci.” I can see how some are hearing a “mouthful of words” with “bad enunciation.” That may be true of Celine herself, but it also may be partly due to overuse of reverb they used. That will certainly make words blend together when sung in a rapid rhythm. 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
mebe Posted July 21, 2026 at 03:03 AM Posted July 21, 2026 at 03:03 AM In Québec, BPM is down to #16 (-15) in its second week on the chart. Quote
manolo19 Posted July 21, 2026 at 03:28 AM Posted July 21, 2026 at 03:28 AM (edited) On 7/20/2026 at 2:35 PM, Ajax said: Not at all. I’m talking about the huge gap between the expectations created by her concert comeback and what she actually delivered musically. It’s astronomical. It simply isn’t up to the level people were expecting. If she had released songs of this quality back in the day, she probably wouldn’t have filled her own garage. That said, I have nothing but respect for her courage and everything she’s been through. She’s extraordinary, and there’s no denying that. But that doesn’t stop me from objectively assessing the quality of what she’s puts out. I honestly think that even with the voice she has left, she should still be able to pronounce a word like “aime” properly, among others. And as for the song itself… And under those circumstances, I honestly think it’s better to stop. I’m convinced she could begin a new artistic chapter by approaching music differently and embracing a voice that, more than ever, tells her story. But watching this pattern continue—where apparently no one is willing to tell her, “No, you don’t say ‘Sheww twime,’ you say ‘Je t’aime’”—is actually quite sad. You are so right and I feel the same. Everyone pretend it's all fine and due to health problems but what she does is wrong...she chooses this style of singing, she chooses this pronunciation and nobody can tell her please try to sing normal just say the words as they are.Even RC should be able to tell her. They dont care that she sounds ridiculous.I love BPM but I almost sing it as a joke when I sing along to Céline if that makes sens because of all those vocal tics. I still have hope for her 'English singing' to sound like Ashes and not Superwoman. Maybe we need a Max Martin Produced song again Edited July 21, 2026 at 03:32 AM by manolo19 2 Quote
Ajax Posted July 21, 2026 at 03:59 AM Posted July 21, 2026 at 03:59 AM On 7/20/2026 at 8:28 PM, manolo19 said: I almost sing it as a joke when I sing along to Céline if that makes sens because of all those vocal tics. I feel you 3 Quote
stevo Posted July 21, 2026 at 08:50 AM Posted July 21, 2026 at 08:50 AM (edited) I just don't get it. No, I'm not a native French speaker, but I don't hear any significant collapse in diction or enunciation compared to anything she's released in the past 20 years. She's pushing a style of singing that she decided to use for this particular song, but it doesn't mean that all her exaggerated Celineisms would be used if she sang The Prayer today...she sings differently, uses her voice in a technically different way- surely? Her ticks and signature lurrrves and vavavaaaavvvvavavaverrrves are why she's my favourite. I don't need her to be 'clean' and perfect and precise with pronouncing her consonants etc. Edited July 21, 2026 at 08:51 AM by stevo 5 2 Quote
Del Posted July 21, 2026 at 09:59 AM Posted July 21, 2026 at 09:59 AM Yes her pronounciation is not perfect. A few words feels like she’s chewing them but it’s nothing like the courage album where many songs I have no clue what she’s saying. For the record, I quite like the courage album just a few irritants with it that’s all. She’s been clean, perfect and with a firm routine that frankly I think she’s completely over and doesn’t want to go back to. I love BPM and so happy that we have it and will continue to listen to it regularly because I always think things could have turned out differently. 4 Quote Instagram: @delphis78
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MaxRayÎles Posted July 21, 2026 at 02:03 PM Posted July 21, 2026 at 02:03 PM On 7/21/2026 at 5:50 AM, stevo said: I just don't get it. No, I'm not a native French speaker, but I don't hear any significant collapse in diction or enunciation compared to anything she's released in the past 20 years. She's pushing a style of singing that she decided to use for this particular song, but it doesn't mean that all her exaggerated Celineisms would be used if she sang The Prayer today...she sings differently, uses her voice in a technically different way- surely? Her ticks and signature lurrrves and vavavaaaavvvvavavaverrrves are why she's my favourite. I don't need her to be 'clean' and perfect and precise with pronouncing her consonants etc. yess. i love hers tics. thats just her. people need to chill. she likes Zachary Richard. get over it haha i like to sing along in that style Quote
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