Nmj Posted June 11, 2024 at 01:54 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 01:54 AM Yup. And at the time of the first spasm-related cancellation a lot of us thought of that, and the Dr Korovin scene from TTEOTW. In retrospect, turns out we weren’t wrong to go there, with her now saying she has had symptoms all this time. It’s crazy how unpredictable I’m “assuming” the SPS… if she felt the spasms in 2008-2009. She went on to do multiple more rounds of IVF, give birth to twins. Start another long residency, did multiple albums all before Rene even passed, and then after he died she not only didn’t stop she thought it was wise to kick it into second gear and commit to a world tour. I wonder if covid and the lockdowns didn’t happen and if she would’ve went on with the tour, how that might have played out… would the symptoms stayed at bay a bit longer OR would she have had something terrible happen. Either way the pandemic ended up being a blessing in disguise for Celine, I’d hate to think how tragic it could’ve been if she was onstage when her SPS triggered. 1 Quote
PuraVida Posted June 11, 2024 at 02:47 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 02:47 AM Yup. And at the time of the first spasm-related cancellation a lot of us thought of that, and the Dr Korovin scene from TTEOTW. In retrospect, turns out we weren't wrong to go there, with her now saying she has had symptoms all this time. I find it so interesting that the spasms apparently started with her voice and vocal cords. 1 Quote
kaye2023 Posted June 11, 2024 at 03:20 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 03:20 AM The weight loss after was likely a symptom of SPS and not self imposed I may be wrong, but I think it was intentional loss. This was a bit earlier before she entered her fashion phase and then ballet (both of which I feel pushed her condition to roaring levels that it is now). She was curvy in BB, went thin quickly (thin by Bee Gees tribute), thinner throughout her fashion phase which ended with her being almost emaciated, then went fit and buff for her ballet/Courage phase. If the case was tolerable SPS symptoms went to 11 because of all these, I wouldn't be surprised. She's said it before, she will tolerate pain if it looks good and will power through it. And, paraphrasing, if she didn't like what concerns you had to say, she didn't want to hear it. I really hate to think the pain during this time was actually her body sounding the alarm that it's about the break down but was ignored. 1 Quote
GoldenLeaf Posted June 11, 2024 at 04:29 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 04:29 AM (edited) I may be wrong, but I think it was intentional loss. This was a bit earlier before she entered her fashion phase and then ballet (both of which I feel pushed her condition to roaring levels that it is now). She was curvy in BB, went thin quickly (thin by Bee Gees tribute), thinner throughout her fashion phase which ended with her being almost emaciated, then went fit and buff for her ballet/Courage phase. If the case was tolerable SPS symptoms went to 11 because of all these, I wouldn't be surprised. She's said it before, she will tolerate pain if it looks good and will power through it. And, paraphrasing, if she didn't like what concerns you had to say, she didn't want to hear it. I really hate to think the pain during this time was actually her body sounding the alarm that it's about the break down but was ignored.I agree, she was curvy/plumper in May 2016 (BB Awards) and then was really thin during Paris Fashion Week in July 2016, I think she wanted to look like a "Haute Couture" runway model so she intentionnaly quickly lost the weight. Edited June 11, 2024 at 04:33 AM by GoldenLeaf Quote
Jeanette Posted June 11, 2024 at 07:25 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 07:25 AM I agree, she was curvy/plumper in May 2016 (BB Awards) and then was really thin during Paris Fashion Week in July 2016, I think she wanted to look like a "Haute Couture" runway model so she intentionnaly quickly lost the weight. Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted June 11, 2024 at 07:42 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 07:42 AM Todays the day! Kev x 5 Quote
Jeanette Posted June 11, 2024 at 08:04 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 08:04 AM As usual the media are all jumping on the bandwagon of copying each other’s incorrect facts by intentionally misconstruing something said into a fabricated headline for the sake of clicks, i.e. that she lied to her fans about having SPS for 17 years, which as we know is total bs!! I don’t think this Hoda helps in the way she’s questioning and pressing her from the clip shown but I don’t know her so can’t really comment too much on her journalism style but now think I’ll wait for the doc to learn what’s really been going on. Although, I’ve learned that she had symptoms and felt something wasn’t right from as far back as 2008 and couldn’t get a diagnosis, that’s the reality. However, I personally take this as a positive, not that she’s been suffering such symptoms for all this time, of course but that she was able to function as normal during this time and push herself onwards which yes may have now taken a toll which of course isn’t good but I keep thinking back to Jacques’s quote (which incidentally told us more than all the nonsense Claudette spouted each time she was asked for an update on Celine) about how she likes to dissect things and get right to the bottom of something. I now firmly believe she will return in some shape or form, she just needed the time to come to terms with this condition when the diagnosis was finally made and find the medications and treatments to manage it to allow her to do just that. I now believe that at no point during this time away from the spotlight was she ever in a wheelchair and at death’s door as the media portrayed, again with the help of lost in translation, misquoted comments from Claudette! Yes, she’s been through it and I’m definitely not disputing that but I believe firmly and have done since the start of the tour postponements that the time away brought everything to the surface, i.e. Rene’s death, her brother’s death, her mother’s death and she was then determined more than ever to get to the root of the problem she’s now quite apparently experienced throughout these years. Obviously, I’m not playing her symptoms down or anything just giving my opinion on this which I’ve kept to myself pretty much since the beginning of this whole journey. 2 Quote
Zofia Posted June 11, 2024 at 08:45 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 08:45 AM Many people are surprised that Celine has been noticing symptoms of this illness in herself for 17 years - meanwhile, we discussed this possibility on this forum over a year ago. Let me remind you what Denise Bombardier wrote about her health problems in her book “L'énigmatique Céline Dion” (2009) after accompanying her to TCWT (automatic translation): “After a concert in Munich, on the plane that took us back to Berlin, I saw the singer who had just succeeded in another performance writhing in pain, her neck on fire, bent in spasms. Her massage therapist, the discreet and gentle Rolande, always by her side, gave her treatments that made her grimace but to which she submitted while continuing the conversation with us. One has the curious impression when observing Celine Dion that she violates this body which periodically fails in the energy which inhabits it.” “If she exudes invulnerability, a power on stage, a formidable energy, if during her public outings she appears radiant, controlling all situations, you have to see her behind the set of this life of performances. In the shadows lurks an ailing woman, whose body keeps protesting, for there is a physical price to pay to remain at the peak of her glory. Celine Dion therefore experiences many physical ailments. Neck pain, back pain, dizziness, tension that reminds her almost permanently. His voice also protests, becoming an obsession at all times. His throat also causes him concern, as well as asthma, this calamity for a singer. Celine Dion through her body suffers the repercussions of the star defying illness and death.” “Celine Dion thrives on effort, work seeming to be the antidote to her anxieties. Inactivity does not suit him. She does not hide the physical and psychological discomfort she experienced during certain less turbulent periods of her life. In public performance, all his ills disappear. Aches, points in the hollow of the chest, nausea, abdominal pain, these frequent signals that the body sends back to her, she ended up taming them. Isn't that the price to pay to live on adrenaline, the only powerful drug she allows herself?” So it seems that the first symptoms were not just about the vocal cords - but that is her primary tool, so that's what she tried to fix first, hiding the other struggles for as long as she could (as someone close to her says in 1997: « C’est une perfectionniste. Elle ne se plaint jamais. Pour qu’elle en parle, raconte un proche, il fallait qu’elle ait vraiment mal » ( https://fr.chatelaine.com/art-de-vivre/celine-dion-et-les-francais-il-y-a-20-ans/ ). I've quoted another SPS patient here before, diagnosed after 7 years of searching: “Looking back, I can see that I had a milder version of the symptoms most of my life” (https://www.happiesthealth.com/articles/neurology/stiff-person-syndrome?fbclid=IwAR0dsdSBku27kkPjFj3IfxmjrATbN4DsUDpNv0Cwrw_xfDFX3TS6HfhJlUw). 3 Quote
Ukrfan Posted June 11, 2024 at 10:19 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 10:19 AM As usual the media are all jumping on the bandwagon of copying each other's incorrect facts by intentionally misconstruing something said into a fabricated headline for the sake of clicks, i.e. that she lied to her fans about having SPS for 17 years, which as we know is total bs!! I don't think this Hoda helps in the way she's questioning and pressing her from the clip shown but I don't know her so can't really comment too much on her journalism style but now think I'll wait for the doc to learn what's really been going on. Although, I've learned that she had symptoms and felt something wasn't right from as far back as 2008 and couldn't get a diagnosis, that's the reality. However, I personally take this as a positive, not that she's been suffering such symptoms for all this time, of course but that she was able to function as normal during this time and push herself onwards which yes may have now taken a toll which of course isn't good but I keep thinking back to Jacques's quote (which incidentally told us more than all the nonsense Claudette spouted each time she was asked for an update on Celine) about how she likes to dissect things and get right to the bottom of something. I now firmly believe she will return in some shape or form, she just needed the time to come to terms with this condition when the diagnosis was finally made and find the medications and treatments to manage it to allow her to do just that. I now believe that at no point during this time away from the spotlight was she ever in a wheelchair and at death's door as the media portrayed, again with the help of lost in translation, misquoted comments from Claudette! Yes, she's been through it and I'm definitely not disputing that but I believe firmly and have done since the start of the tour postponements that the time away brought everything to the surface, i.e. Rene's death, her brother's death, her mother's death and she was then determined more than ever to get to the root of the problem she's now quite apparently experienced throughout these years. Obviously, I'm not playing her symptoms down or anything just giving my opinion on this which I've kept to myself pretty much since the beginning of this whole journey. Well, I agree with everything you said except that Hoda did mention Celine was at death's door once. 1 Quote
tshlw Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:10 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:10 AM Preview of Interview with Celine and that they will be talking about interview on Today Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
Nmj Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:17 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:17 AM Did they already show it on the today show? Just turned it on. Quote
tshlw Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:19 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:19 AM (edited) Did they already show it on the today show? Just turned it on. Just preview that it was coming. I posted that part above. It just showed it will be at 7:40am Edited June 11, 2024 at 11:21 AM by tshlw 1 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
Nmj Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:45 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:45 AM (edited) Wow just watched the preview…. Celine sings and shows us what it did to her voice. She called itl “nasal”since TC now we know Also Irene Taylor joins the interview!!!! Hoda confirms from Celine there’s a date for the stage!!! Edited June 11, 2024 at 11:47 AM by Nmj 3 Quote
scielle Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:45 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:45 AM The show will go on! 3 Quote
Nmj Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:48 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:48 AM (edited) The show will go on! I was surprised that Irene was in Vegas and joined Celine for the interview, more tonight!! Also Celine yelled over to her “manager” can I tell Hoda the date and he said “no”. Wow. And who the heck is the “manager” Mr Nelson? Edited June 11, 2024 at 11:49 AM by Nmj 2 Quote
scielle Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:50 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:50 AM Also Irene Taylor joins the interview!!!!I was very glad to see that. Really hope Irene is involved in the promo because I want to hear from her about the “making of”, and in particular how she pivoted the film from what it was initially supposed to be when announced. Circumstances forced it, but for a filmmaker, what happened makes for a much more interesting story. I was also very happy Hoda said Céline’s the best selling French language artist in history. Most Americans have no clue about that. 3 Quote
A new day... Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:51 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:51 AM WHAT??? A date!!! Quote
Nmj Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:52 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:52 AM WHAT??? A date!!! Oh yes. Celine said “I WILL BE BACK” as matter of fact. Makes me wonder if the Olympics is the day? Quote
tshlw Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:52 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:52 AM I was surprised that Irene was in Vegas and joined Celine for the interview, more tonight!! Also Celine yelled over to her "manager" can I tell Hoda the date and he said "no". Wow. And who the heck is the "manager" Mr Nelson? Wondered that myself. Maybe we will find out tonight. The interview will be intense. 1 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
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tshlw Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:53 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:53 AM Oh yes. Celine said “I WILL BE BACK” as matter of fact. Makes me wonder if the Olympics is the day? Or LV 1 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
Nmj Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:54 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:54 AM I was very glad to see that. Really hope Irene is involved in the promo because I want to hear from her about the “making of”, and in particular how she pivoted the film from what it was initially supposed to be when announced. Circumstances forced it, but for a filmmaker, what happened makes for a much more interesting story. I was also very happy Hoda said Céline’s the best selling French language artist in history. Most Americans have no clue about that. Surely more was filmed while Irene was in Vegas to film the Hoda interview. So I’m gonna say hopefully we will see more. Quote
celinexvocals Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:55 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:55 AM Is the preview finished ? Quote
anewdayhascome Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:55 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:55 AM Is there any livestream? Seems it's pretty inaccessible outside the US? Quote A New Day... 10th & 11th November 2006 Taking Chances World Tour, Antwerp 13th & 14th May 2008, Kraków 28th June 2008 Celine 25th & 27th & 31st August 2013 20th, 23rd, 24th, 27th & 28th September 2016 Sans attendre Tour, Paris 1st & 5th December 2013 Encore un soir, Paris 24th, 25th, 28th, 29th June & 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th, 9th July 2016 Live 2017 Stockholm 17th June 2017 Lille 1st & 2nd July 2017 Paris 8th & 9th July 2017 Berlin 23rd & 24th July 2017 Live 2018 Taipei 11th & 13th July 2018 Manila 19th July 2018 Bangkok 23rd July 2018 BST Hyde Park London 5 July 2019
Nmj Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:56 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:56 AM Is the preview finished ? Yes. The rest airs tonight 10pm EST. Quote
tshlw Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:57 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:57 AM My video of preview uploading. I will say my stupid local station cut in for a few secs so hopefully it will be up on Today site here soon. Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
Nmj Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:57 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:57 AM Is there any livestream? Seems it's pretty inaccessible outside the US? The incredible tshlw will be posting. Quote
tshlw Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:57 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:57 AM Is there any livestream? Seems it's pretty inaccessible outside the US? No idea on Livestream but I will be recording and uploading after it airs. Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
celinexvocals Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:57 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:57 AM Is there any livestream? Seems it's pretty inaccessible outside the US? It’s very hard, you need to use a vpn but most the platforms ask for an American credit and zip code in order to get a free trial. So you can’t really trick the system Quote
tshlw Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:59 AM Posted June 11, 2024 at 11:59 AM (edited) Here is the preview they just showed on the 1st hour of Today. Took section Today posted and add the little bit they left off when the segment aired. https://youtu.be/lvhhhjWFNCA Edited June 11, 2024 at 03:30 PM by tshlw 4 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
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