LukeD Posted May 10, 2023 at 11:26 AM Posted May 10, 2023 at 11:26 AM The 'bedroom' voice is single worst decision of her recording career. She went from soaring, crystal clear vocals to sounding like a demo singer. 3 Quote
Shaun Posted May 10, 2023 at 11:40 AM Posted May 10, 2023 at 11:40 AM The 'bedroom' voice is single worst decision of her recording career. She went from soaring, crystal clear vocals to sounding like a demo singer. And appears to coincide with when her (American in particular) audience deserted her. 4 Quote Bringing you the world's only Celine Dion podcast show since 2014.Find us on Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & Amazon Music.
Taking Chances Posted May 10, 2023 at 12:09 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 12:09 PM The 'bedroom' voice is single worst decision of her recording career. She went from soaring, crystal clear vocals to sounding like a demo singer. Imagine the Loved Me Back To Life album without it. And it wasn't just the bedroom voice that was the problem, it was the whole production. Ever since Taking Chances, they placed her voice more forward and essentially removed the reverb, making her voice sound drier. Pair that with the bedroom voice and it's a completely different sound than before. Not a great combination. It's especially annoying that they chose to do this. 4 Quote
Allysadreams Posted May 10, 2023 at 01:02 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 01:02 PM (edited) Ouch! I love “I’ll Be” if that’s what you consider a Coldplay reject, or take that all day over the Sia rejects like “Lying Down” and “Loved Me Back To Life”. I really like all those songs Love Sia's music too...Lying down is epic, I know a song is good when i want it to be longer One more day until new Celine songs I've not listened to any previews so apart from the 2 songs released so far I haven't listened to the others so hopefully it's a nice surprise on Friday. Edited May 10, 2023 at 01:15 PM by Allysadreams Quote 'Love Doesn't Ask Why, it speaks from the heart.....'
Allysadreams Posted May 10, 2023 at 01:21 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 01:21 PM The 'bedroom' voice is single worst decision of her recording career. She went from soaring, crystal clear vocals to sounding like a demo singer. I think it was just a shock for us as it's not what we are used to with Celine, it suits some singers, I didn't dislike that style I just don't feel it suited Celine, much prefer the crystal clear vocals personally but then I'm an old school fan since the 90's 2 Quote 'Love Doesn't Ask Why, it speaks from the heart.....'
Alex_Incognito Posted May 10, 2023 at 02:41 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 02:41 PM She's lost her American audience because she rarely promotes. Your average person think she retired in 2000! lol 5 Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
Ukrfan Posted May 10, 2023 at 02:46 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 02:46 PM She's lost her American audience because she rarely promotes. Your average person think she retired in 2000! lol Wasn't Taking Chances heavinly promoted? We had a decent music video, we had over 10 (?) performances, but it still only reached #54 on Billboard. Though it was still an achievement compared to years after that. Quote
CourageProject Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:00 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:00 PM Average Americans aren't too fond of Céline to follow her. Quote
celinesounds Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:00 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:00 PM Imagine the Loved Me Back To Life album without it. And it wasn't just the bedroom voice that was the problem, it was the whole production. Ever since Taking Chances, they placed her voice more forward and essentially removed the reverb, making her voice sound drier. Pair that with the bedroom voice and it's a completely different sound than before. Not a great combination. It's especially annoying that they chose to do this. According to some sounds engineer that I know, reverb is out of fashion nowadays Quote #FREEJAVITO
Nmj Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:01 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:01 PM According to some sounds engineer that I know, reverb is out of fashion nowadays I’f you’re Celine Dion it’s not out of fashion. 2 Quote
tomantha Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:06 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:06 PM https://streamable.com/3ar47i Love Again preview.mp4 https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing Only love only love only love only love is the gift, oh hoOnly love only love only love only love is the gift, oh ho Only love can luminateIgnite the midnight darkOnly love can captivateBreak down the coldest heart It's a cure, a lie, an answer and a healingThere's an anthem we have in our blood we're needing Only love only love only love only love is the gift, oh hoOnly love only love only love's all that we need to live, oh hoIt's the energy, the air we breathe,Only love only love only love only love is the gift, oh ho Instrumental chorus. ... Based on length, Cher sample will not be part of it. See you on May 12th. Quote
Alex_Incognito Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:07 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:07 PM (edited) Wasn't Taking Chances heavinly promoted? We had a decent music video, we had over 10 (?) performances, but it still only reached #54 on Billboard. Though it was still an achievement compared to years after that.Taking Chances was 15 years ago. It's sad that we consider that a recent English album. Edited May 10, 2023 at 03:08 PM by Alex_Incognito 2 Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
GoldenLeaf Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:53 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:53 PM (edited) The 'bedroom' voice is single worst decision of her recording career. She went from soaring, crystal clear vocals to sounding like a demo singer.Celine started using a bedroom voice in 2004, I can hear it in ''Ain't Gonna Look The Othe Way'' and that song would have been better with crystal clear vocals. I guess she probably thought it sounded cool and edgy when we all know it sounds like crap, then when she started to fangirling Adele and Sia it went out of control. Edited May 10, 2023 at 03:56 PM by GoldenLeaf 2 Quote
LukeD Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:19 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:19 PM (edited) Celine fangirling Sia and Adele was so reductive. She messed up with her voice (aka her #1 selling point) to sound like two far inferior singers. And I'm begging everyone, please don't respond to me to say how great Adele is. Cause she's not. Big gowns, polished venues, a sense of seriousness and three good notes in her throat. Edited May 10, 2023 at 04:20 PM by LukeD 4 Quote
garyhollander Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:20 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:20 PM Celine started using a bedroom voice in 2004, I can hear it in ''Ain't Gonna Look The Othe Way'' and that song would have been better with crystal clear vocals. I guess she probably thought it sounded cool and edgy when we all know it sounds like crap, then when she started to fangirling Adele and Sia it went out of control.Here im desagreeing with you cause that song should have become a hit i wouldnt change a thing Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk Quote
garyhollander Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:21 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:21 PM Celine fangirling Sia and Adele was so reductive. She messed up with her voice (aka her #1 selling point) to sound like two far inferior singers. And I'm begging everyone, please don't respond to me to say how great Adele is. Cause she's not. Big gowns, polished venues, a sense of seriousness and three good notes in her throat.Dont agree she is brilliant songwriter and has a lot of emotive ability there as well.. vocally ia she on par with celien ofccourse not but you cant take away that she is a good singer Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk 1 Quote
LukeD Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:29 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:29 PM (edited) Dont agree she is brilliant songwriter and has a lot of emotive ability there as well.. vocally ia she on par with celien ofccourse not but you cant take away that she is a good singer Sent from my SM-G998B using TapatalkI do not see the brilliance in her songwriting. She is very pathological. But this is highly subjective, so I will appreciate the fact that she writes her song. Vocally, I think she has a conventionally beautiful voice, but her singing range is objectively limited. Everything she can do, Celine can do it better. Like there is no comparison. I agree that she is emotive and I acknowledge her ability to communicate with the audience, which is the most important thing in pop singing. But, in my opinion, vocal ability should be tested outside the narrow confines of 'audience response'. Because this relates to music taste as well. So, when I come to think of what is it that Adele is doing well with her instrument? I will say that her low register is well-developed and that's about it. Just my two cents. Edited May 10, 2023 at 04:30 PM by LukeD 1 Quote
garyhollander Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:34 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:34 PM Celine started using a bedroom voice in 2004, I can hear it in ''Ain't Gonna Look The Othe Way'' and that song would have been better with crystal clear vocals. I guess she probably thought it sounded cool and edgy when we all know it sounds like crap, then when she started to fangirling Adele and Sia it went out of control.Guys maybe onpopular opinion, but she always had a rasp in her voice and edge to it .. i think its fine that she is exploring her vocal deliveries.. do i feel it belongs in every song hell no but she doesnt use it in every song either.. courage she didnt use it, say yes, boundaries, lying down,flying on my own, perfect goodbye, how did you get here, i will be stronger none had bedroom voice in it.. and honestly some of those songs would sound weird with her regular classical way of singing.. only thing they changed was the reverb they used previously Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk 2 Quote
ryba Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:37 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:37 PM I ordered the soundtrack today! I can’t wait! It’s only a few new songs, but I’m really excited 2 Quote
garyhollander Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:39 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 04:39 PM I do not see the brilliance in her songwriting. She is very pathological. But this is highly subjective, so I will appreciate the fact that she writes her song. Vocally, I think she has a conventionally beautiful voice, but her singing range is objectively limited. Everything she can do, Celine can do it better. Like there is no comparison. I agree that she is emotive and I acknowledge her ability to communicate with the audience, which is the most important thing in pop singing. But, in my opinion, vocal ability should be tested outside the narrow confines of 'audience response'. Because this relates to music taste as well. So, when I come to think of what is it that Adele is doing well with her instrument? I will say that her low register is well-developed and that's about it. Just my two cents.I dont agree again her vocal tone is gold she has a very round and full sound. She also has the ability as a great storyteller her phrasing and ability to go from chest to head she can do seamlessly.. she doesnt support her voice well in high builts but she is a skilled singer.. otherwise someone liek celine would not fangirl her.. i mean she must have something either its not your thing thats fine but she iw no britney spears either Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:07 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:07 PM Celine fangirling Sia and Adele was so reductive. She messed up with her voice (aka her #1 selling point) to sound like two far inferior singers. And I'm begging everyone, please don't respond to me to say how great Adele is. Cause she's not. Big gowns, polished venues, a sense of seriousness and three good notes in her throat. A sense of seriousness? She’s one of the biggest jokesters in the business! A fabulous sense of humor actually, and she gets personal with her audiences as if she was truly serving you tea in her living room. 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
CelinesDIVO5 Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:09 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:09 PM I do not see the brilliance in her songwriting. She is very pathological. But this is highly subjective, so I will appreciate the fact that she writes her song. Vocally, I think she has a conventionally beautiful voice, but her singing range is objectively limited. Everything she can do, Celine can do it better. Like there is no comparison. I agree that she is emotive and I acknowledge her ability to communicate with the audience, which is the most important thing in pop singing. But, in my opinion, vocal ability should be tested outside the narrow confines of 'audience response'. Because this relates to music taste as well. So, when I come to think of what is it that Adele is doing well with her instrument? I will say that her low register is well-developed and that's about it. Just my two cents. But vocal ability does not always equate to range. Plenty of singers can sing high notes…but they don’t always sound good, nor do they always know how to control it. Adele knows what her voice is and where it sits the best. Her style and technique are much different from Celine’s, so it’s not exactly fair to compare. Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
LukeD Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:23 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:23 PM A sense of seriousness? She's one of the biggest jokesters in the business! A fabulous sense of humor actually, and she gets personal with her audiences as if she was truly serving you tea in her living room.I was not referring to her attitude, but to how she is marketed as an artist. This is reflected in her releases as well. I see the same sense in many Celine releases, for instance LTAL. Quote
LukeD Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:27 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:27 PM But vocal ability does not always equate to range. Plenty of singers can sing high notes…but they don't always sound good, nor do they always know how to control it. Adele knows what her voice is and where it sits the best. Her style and technique are much different from Celine's, so it's not exactly fair to compare.But Adele is not only lacking in range and high notes. Her voice is not very agile either. She remains within a limited comfort zone and that's about it. Those who like her voice and songs will say she is a good singer. BUT if you are not attracted to her voice and discography then you see her for what she really is - average. Same cannot be said for the likes of Celine, because her great singing ability cannot be doubted unless one works for Rolling Stones. 1 Quote
Alex_Incognito Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:38 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 05:38 PM I am fine with Celine changing her signing style here and there for fun - but the problem is the lack of albums she has recorded in the last 15 years. 3 English albums of new material and 3 French. 2 Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
PuraVida Posted May 10, 2023 at 06:43 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 06:43 PM The 'bedroom' voice is single worst decision of her recording career. She went from soaring, crystal clear vocals to sounding like a demo singer. And the worst part is she stuck with it for YEARS 2 Quote
celinesounds Posted May 10, 2023 at 06:49 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 06:49 PM Celine was in vegas for so long during the 1st residence, she wasn’t allowed to perform outside of vegas, like on the 2nd residence If OH was promoted with a Tour everything would have been different Even Miracle, can you imagine that? 5 years was a crazy deal. Then she was having babies and Rene health didn’t helped The music business was changing every year since 2000 with internet First was iTunes, YouTube then the streaming services, music labels didn’t know what to do, cause their previous “formulas” didn’t worked like in the 80s and 90s. Celine wanted to comeback, and to be cool, the Sia and Adele addiction didn’t helped her to remind how special she was for the industry. Anyway Celine is and always be one of the best entertainers and vocalists in the world, she might not be a songwriter, but she was blessed enough to have someone like Rene on her side. 2 Quote #FREEJAVITO
mebe Posted May 10, 2023 at 08:28 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 08:28 PM In Québec, Love Again still #3 on Top Radio Songs (English)https://palmaresadisq.ca/fr/sur-les-ondes/ LA #4 Top Sales (English songs)https://palmaresadisq.ca/fr/tops-ventes/chansons/ Envoyé de mon SM-A526W en utilisant Tapatalk 5 Quote
LukeD Posted May 10, 2023 at 08:29 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 08:29 PM (edited) I am fine with Celine changing her signing style here and there for fun - but the problem is the lack of albums she has recorded in the last 15 years. 3 English albums of new material and 3 French.This is 1 album every 2.5 years which is better than most singers. The quantity of albums is not that bad IMO. It is the quality that fluctuated. Personally, considering ALL her releases since 2007, I am only happy with SA, EUS and Courage. Anything else is heavily flawed in my books, the live albums included. Edited May 10, 2023 at 08:29 PM by LukeD 3 Quote
Állex Sodi Posted May 10, 2023 at 09:11 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 09:11 PM This is 1 album every 2.5 years which is better than most singers. The quantity of albums is not that bad IMO. It is the quality that fluctuated. Well, but that is not how it works, is it? Most people from anglophone markets don’t follow her francophone career. For them, the largely majority of her followers btw, it’s 3 albums in almost 16 years. This days that it’s too much and I’m sure it had an impact on her commercial success. 1 Quote
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