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[Céline RO]

Yeah! He has written some of the best songs in her English carreer, tho somehow it feels he has written more than he did:

 

DREAMIN' OF YOU

HAVE A HEART (PARTOUT JE TE VOIS)

I LOVE YOU

A NEW DAY HAS COME

TEN DAYS

YOUR LIGHT

 

I always liked his rock approach.

 

But let's not forget Diane Warren:

BECAUSE YOU LOVED ME

I LOVE YOU, GOODBYE

I WANT YOU TO NEED ME

IF YOU ASKED ME TO

LOVE CAN MOVE MOUNTAINS

LOVIN' PROOF

NEXT PLANE OUT

NO LIVING WITHOUT LOVING YOU

NOTHING BROKEN BUT MY HEART

REAL EMOTION

SUPERWOMAN

THESE ARE THE SPECIAL TIMES

UNFINISHED SONGS

WATER FROM THE MOON

WOULD I KNOW

 

Only problem with both of them, is that they never written about Céline, who is she as a person, her hopes, dreams, fears, what is happening in her life... JJ did that splendidly in French.

 

I think Stephan Moccio was the only English writer who really did that:

A NEW DAY HAS COME

COURAGE

LOVE OF MY LIFE

 

(Not BOUNDARIES tho )

 

Diane Warren doesn’t seem to be able to write good songs anymore. I don’t know why but it’s a shame.

[Davey84]

Diane Warren doesn’t seem to be able to write good songs anymore. I don’t know why but it’s a shame.

 

That's cos she turned into an angry c%nt, judging her X.

[Nmj]

 

 

Diane Warren doesn’t seem to be able to write good songs anymore. I don’t know why but it’s a shame.

 

Diane’s classics are great!!

 

She’s lost her touch.

[smw]

 

Only problem with both of them, is that they never written about Céline, who is she as a person, her hopes, dreams, fears, what is happening in her life... JJ did that splendidly in French.

 

I think Stephan Moccio was the only English writer who really did that:

A NEW DAY HAS COME

COURAGE

LOVE OF MY LIFE

 

 

Very good point. These songs and the Pink song, Recovering, are Celine’s most personal English songs.

 

Along with My Love that was written for Celine by Linda Perry.

 

Any others?

[Nmj]

 

 

Very good point. These songs and the Pink song, Recovering, are Celine’s most personal English songs.

 

Along with My Love that was written for Celine by Linda Perry.

 

Any others?

 

“The Colour of My Love” seemed tailored for Celine and Rene…

 

 

 

[LukeD]

 

But let's not forget Diane Warren:

BECAUSE YOU LOVED ME

I LOVE YOU, GOODBYE

I WANT YOU TO NEED ME

IF YOU ASKED ME TO

LOVE CAN MOVE MOUNTAINS

LOVIN' PROOF

NEXT PLANE OUT

NO LIVING WITHOUT LOVING YOU

NOTHING BROKEN BUT MY HEART

REAL EMOTION

SUPERWOMAN

THESE ARE THE SPECIAL TIMES

UNFINISHED SONGS

WATER FROM THE MOON

WOULD I KNOW

 

Only problem with both of them, is that they never written about Céline, who is she as a person, her hopes, dreams, fears, what is happening in her life... JJ did that splendidly in French.

 

I refuse to compare Diane Warren to JJQ. This is like comparing a Pepsi can to a bottle of Dom Perignon.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

“The Colour of My Love” seemed tailored for Celine and Rene…

 

It wasn’t specifically written for Celine though. It was originally supposed to be part of a musical that David Foster was writing that never came to fruition.

[smw]

I refuse to compare Diane Warren to JJQ. This is like comparing a Pepsi can to a bottle of Dom Perignon.

 

They’re like apples and oranges. Two totally different kinds of songwriters.

 

JJG allowed for Celine to have true artistry in her career and she has said herself that D’eux is what she’s most proud of in her career as far as albums.

 

Diane Warren wrote big songs that helped Celine become as big as Whitney Houston. Particularly with BYLM and IYAMT. My personal favorite is NBBMH.

 

Edited November 22, 2023 at 04:29 PM by smw

[smw]

JJG is a genius and we are all so lucky that he got to share his talent with Celine. If she had only found a JJG for her English career.

 

Maybe they were hoping the Phil Spector collaborations would lead to similar results as what they had with JJG. She started those sessions not too long after the huge success of D’eux, right?

 

If that collaboration had worked out, it’s interesting to think of what Celine’s English career would’ve been. Perhaps not as big but perhaps more critically acclaimed.

 

Although, they couldn’t have asked for more with Falling Into You. It had huge hits and won the Grammy for Album of the Year. I bet that was so validating for Celine and Rene, considering that album technically began with the Spector sessions. I bet Phil popped into Rene’s head when FIY won the Grammy.

 

Edited November 22, 2023 at 04:37 PM by smw

[LukeD]

They're like apples and oranges. Two totally different kinds of songwriters.

 

JJG allowed for Celine to have true artistry in her career and she has said herself that D'eux is what she's most proud of in her career as far as albums.

 

Diane Warren wrote big songs that helped Celine become as big as Whitney Houston. Particularly with BYLM and IYAMT. My personal favorite is NBBMH.

Τhis is not about them being different. Which they are. This is about JJG being far superior. His lyrics are far more diverse, poetic, complex, and layered. D'eux alone explores so many themes; love, seduction, religious doubts, existentialism, homelessness, death. Diane Warren does not compare. Generic anthems and that is all. Edited November 22, 2023 at 04:39 PM by LukeD

[smw]

Τhis is not about them being different. Which they are. This is about JJG being far superior. His lyrics are far more diverse, poetic, complex, and layered. D'eux alone explores so many themes; love, seduction, religious doubts, existentialism, homelessness, death. DW does not compare.

 

I agree with you.

 

Just saying that they were both necessary in the recipe of Celine’s enormous career.

[LukeD]

Maybe they were hoping the Phil Spector collaborations would lead to similar results as what they had with JJG. She started those sessions not too long after the huge success of D'eux, right?

 

If that collaboration had worked out, it's interesting to think of what Celine's English career would've been. Perhaps not as big but perhaps more critically acclaimed.

 

Although, they couldn't have asked for more with Falling Into You. It had huge hits and won the Grammy for Album of the Year. I bet that was so validating for Celine and Rene, considering that album technically began with the Spector sessions. I bet Phil popped into Rene's head when FIY won the Grammy.

Phil Spector was genius but very narcissistic and self-centered. He would change Celine to fit his songs. JJG was very different to this. He listened to Celine, he learnt about Celine, and then wrote songs for her. He essentially adjusted his songwriting to who Celine was, which is why the result is so genuine and time enduring.

[Nmj]

Phil Spector was genius but very narcissistic and self-centered. He would change Celine to fit his songs. JJG was very different to this. He listened to Celine, he learnt about Celine, and then wrote songs for her. He essentially adjusted his songwriting to who Celine was, which is why the result is so genuine and time enduring.

 

I agree with this 100%.

 

However, I think the difference is Celine stayed very guarded so probably many English songwriters including Diane Warren and Phil Spector wrote songs for her without knowing her or her story personally. Whereas JJG seemed to have gotten to know both Celine and Rene to some degree. I agree tho at Stephen Moccio seems like the English writer who knows and listens to celine the most and therefore writes the songs from that place.

 

But at the end of the day it’s hard to compare because Celine’s English career was built to compete with the likes of the big belting divas live Whitney and Mariah, very pop and long sustained notes, more acrobatic. And her French career has always been very personal, less acrobatic, almost more folksy and poetic … her French music is truly a beautiful art.

[kaye2023]

To anyone more familiar with JJG's career, was he "star-maker" composer/producer to other (French) artists other than Céline?

 

I don't know much about him or his personal rep, he seems so nice, so laid back and obvs extremely talented. It's curious why he retired from music so early; hopefully this insider info of him working with Céline once again is true.

[stone]

I really want a French album over an English release. It’s been too long since EUS… her “current” voice (based on last live vocals heard) I think are better suited for French songs, which are more lyrically forward than vocals typically.

 

JJG composed and produced for many artists but not like he did for Celine, 2 full albums plus 1FQT…he did do Johnny Hallyday’s entire Gang album which was very successful back in the 80’s. He’s now in his 70’s and started since the 1970’s so I don’t blame him. He’s always been more private from what I gathered. His songs are timeless hits now. I was in Paris recently and On Ira was playing in the Uber!

[kaye2023]

but not like he did for Celine [...]He’s always been more private from what I gathered.

 

Aw, that's great to know, that his collaboration with her was extraordinary. Hopefully, their bond does eventually lead to another project, which may even help Céline with the mental funk brought by her medical problems. And his penchant for privacy, that's ideal to make her feel safe working with him and not worry about friends-colleagues blabbing to the press.

 

Thanks!

[ryba]

I must say that the Encore un sour album by far exceeded my expectations. The songs were by far better than on some of her English albums, the only difference being that she sang them in French. It was a production of highest quality and international appeal. Songs like Tu Sauras had the potential to be global hits although being sung in French. If Sony and team Celine were smart they would do more promo to internationally push Tu Sauras. It was the Celinessaince and the chances were very good for her.

[souriredezora]

I agree with this 100%.

 

However, I think the difference is Celine stayed very guarded so probably many English songwriters including Diane Warren and Phil Spector wrote songs for her without knowing her or her story personally. Whereas JJG seemed to have gotten to know both Celine and Rene to some degree. I agree tho at Stephen Moccio seems like the English writer who knows and listens to celine the most and therefore writes the songs from that place.

 

But at the end of the day it’s hard to compare because Celine’s English career was built to compete with the likes of the big belting divas live Whitney and Mariah, very pop and long sustained notes, more acrobatic. And her French career has always been very personal, less acrobatic, almost more folksy and poetic … her French music is truly a beautiful art.

did you guys read a chapter in the book Vestale about JJG and Celine's collaboration? very nice.

[Nmj]

At this point it’s back to the radio silence. After those appearances, can we expect a return or was it all just wishful thinking?!

[smw]

At this point it’s back to the radio silence. After those appearances, can we expect a return or was it all just wishful thinking?!

 

We’ll see! I really do think those appearances will be part of the documentary… which could be getting edited right now for all we know.

 

Maybe she was just letting us all know she’s doing better than a lot of people thought/has good days.

[KyleVan41]

At this point it’s back to the radio silence. After those appearances, can we expect a return or was it all just wishful thinking?!

 

I dont think. I think that's a strategic move. With Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales they were never going to release a Celine annoucement and have a flood of hotels booked at 40% off. They're smart. They're waiting until us suckers will pay full dollar. I see Resorts Worlds last day for the hotel discount ends tomorrow night. I still predict an announcement before years end.

Edited November 28, 2023 at 08:21 PM by KyleVan41

[Dancing_Queen]

I miss Dreamy.

Hope he has a new cryptic message for us soon 🥰

 

[remykyes]

I dont think. I think that's a strategic move. With Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales they were never going to release a Celine annoucement and have a flood of hotels booked at 40% off. They're smart. They're waiting until us suckers will pay full dollar. I see Resorts Worlds last day for the hotel discount ends tomorrow night. I still predict an announcement before years end.

 

If I had to hazard a guess, December 4th at the earliest and December 18th at the latest. No way they announce anything during Christmas/New Years' week.

[KyleVan41]

If I had to hazard a guess, December 4th at the earliest and December 18th at the latest. No way they announce anything during Christmas/New Years' week.

 

Yes and if we don't get anything in December, then I'm back to the drawing board, lol .

[Davey84]

Well.... Carrie Underwood is back

 

https://www.rwlasvegas.com/entertainment/carrie-underwood-2/?sf184270958=1&fbclid=IwAR2zDyMyPUFzb4xw73WWSXnV17ED3NsagkzIlgnkv5EAf85u2ElQmVUMnb4

 

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[remykyes]

Well.... Carrie Underwood is back

 

https://www.rwlasveg...f85u2ElQmVUMnb4

 

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Between Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and Carrie coming back to the theatre tonight, I thought it was a longshot that we'd get an announcement this week. It'll be interesting to see what happens on Monday.

[KyleVan41]

Between Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and Carrie coming back to the theatre tonight, I thought it was a longshot that we'd get an announcement this week. It'll be interesting to see what happens on Monday.

 

And actually if we don't get an announcement next week I don't think we'll get one until the new year. I think Dec 18 is too late.

 

It's next week or Bust for me!

[remykyes]

And actually if we don't get an announcement next week I don't think we'll get one until the new year. I think Dec 18 is too late.

 

It's next week or Bust for me!

 

I say you're right about the 18th being too late but we've got next week (Dec. 4th) and the following week (Dec. 11th) and then bust.

[Nmj]

I hope y’all are right… the buzz has winded down and Celine is again MIA.

So I’m very skeptical at this point.

[ryba]

I don’t expect anything this year