Nmj Posted January 29, 2024 at 07:21 PM Posted January 29, 2024 at 07:21 PM I suspect that's very much the case. We've seen it reported her team has been largely let go. I believe Denis Savage is out as well (previously he was listed as Director, Treasurer and Secretary for her 2 Nevada-registered companies, CDA and Feeling - and now, as of Oct'23, it's just Celine herself listed as holding all roles for both entities). And frankly, he's a sound guy. He had no business being her "co-manager" to begin with. I think he just fell into the role because she knew him for so long and had nobody else after parting with Aldo. Similarly, Dave Platel is a marketer from days of yore, when cassette tapes were a thing. Doesn't mean he's cut out to be her manager, with all that entails. So yes, I agree, aging "yes men", and I don't think she has anyone around her who understands the industry as it is now. Granted, Rene was always "old-school" as well, of course, but at least he knew how to promote her. And now, does she even have proper representation? After the very public ICM debacle, she may have a hard time finding a good agent. Things like presenting at an award show or appearing on a magazine cover don't just happen. You need someone to get you the gig. And after Aldo/ Dave/ Denis (and Celine herself in that deposition) burned the bridges with Rob Prinz, who is that person for her? Not specifically Celine-related, but this is an interesting infographic. It shows the Coachella line-up, but by agency, label, and manager behind the artist. The people who make it all happen. https://hq.rostr.cc/reports/who-booked-coachella/2024?utm_source=rostr-audience&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=coachella24 If and when Celine is ready for a return, I believe she won’t have a problem finding new management to fill that void. I’m sure worst case scenario if she’s having issues that SONY music would have someone to refer to her from their team that could step up and take reins. I’m just not sure if they would have someone who would know as much about her francophone career. She’s one artist but we all know her English and French needs are very different. I would think she would want a French speaking personality in that role… maybe the same person who represents Micheal Buble is capable… 1 Quote
ryba Posted January 29, 2024 at 08:22 PM Posted January 29, 2024 at 08:22 PM Well, actually Sony can take total care of her musical career in terms of recording, promoting and releasing. Therefore she wouldn’t necessarily need a manager. She would just have to agree I guess. In terms of touring it is different though. 1 Quote
scielle Posted January 29, 2024 at 08:44 PM Posted January 29, 2024 at 08:44 PM (edited) Well, actually Sony can take total care of her musical career in terms of recording, promoting and releasing. Therefore she wouldn’t necessarily need a manager. She would just have to agree I guess. In terms of touring it is different though.No, that’s not at all how it works.Her manager (and her lawyer) negotiate with the label on her behalf. The advances she gets from Sony, the type of deal (life-of-copyright, license, distribution - all with different economics for the artist), are a matter of negotiation between her and her label. As is the budget for recording and marketing, the services provided by the label as part of the marketing package, etc.(This I know because it’s literally my day job, albeit not at Sony.) She needs someone to represent her, properly. And if I recall correctly, she has a good lawyer (though name and firm escape me at the moment). But as for a proper manager and agent? Who knows these days. Edited January 29, 2024 at 08:45 PM by scielle 4 Quote
Dancing_Queen Posted January 29, 2024 at 09:30 PM Posted January 29, 2024 at 09:30 PM (edited) I suspect that's very much the case.We've seen it reported her team has been largely let go. I believe Denis Savage is out as well (previously he was listed as Director, Treasurer and Secretary for her 2 Nevada-registered companies, CDA and Feeling - and now, as of Oct'23, it's just Celine herself listed as holding all roles for both entities). Oh wow, I completely missed that. Silver Flume (Nevada's Business Platform) actually lists October 30th as the date that she took over all of his roles at Feeling Productions.Which just randomly happens to be the day she appeared at that hockey game. Guess she was making some major business decisions at that time. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if RC will be running the business with/for her in the near future.I guess anything would be better than what we have now... Edited January 29, 2024 at 09:30 PM by Dancing_Queen Quote
scielle Posted January 30, 2024 at 12:26 AM Posted January 30, 2024 at 12:26 AM LOL well then, RC better get himself to law school! In all seriousness though, Tony Bennett's son was his manager for the last few decades of Tony's career and engineered an impressive comeback. Anyway, re. the previous post, if it came off as curt, it wasn't intended as such. I just wrote it while at work and during a long deal call... oops! Anyway, here's some more Artist Recording Deal 101: The level of service an artist gets from a label depends on the deal their manager & lawyer negotiate. Life-of-copyright (LOC) recording deals are the traditional standard. It's where the label funds and develops an artist, provides a recording and marketing budget, gives the artist an advance (which they then recoup from artist royalties) and the label keeps rights to the masters for life-of-copyright (35 years in the US, different in other countries). It's the kind of deal you get as a baby act (think young Taylor at Big Machine). It's the kind of deal a label wants because they keep the rights and can keep recouping their advance for LOC, even if the album bombs, and other than the initial cash outlay, they only have to pay the artist a royalty (typically 20-30% or so). They also have the most incentive to "work" the album because they keep the most upside of their efforts. A distribution deal, is where the artist retains rights, and the label merely charges them a fee for distributing the IP (say, a 10-20%). The artist keeps the rest, but they're responsible for everything else - funding recording, marketing, etc. The label still provides the artist with an advance, which they they recoup from the 80-90% that's payable to the artist. A label doesn't generally like this type of deal because it's typically short term and low margin. They have no incentive to do more than the bare minimum because they won't see much upside from that work. This is a type of deal you can get as an artist if you're established, have significant leverage, and can effectively self-promote your work. There could also be a distribution + services deal, where the label provides some additional limited services in addition to basic distribution. A license deal is somewhere in between. The artist keeps copyright and licenses the album to the label for several years. The level of services and artist payout is somewhere between a LOC royalty deal and a distribution deal.You could also have a profit share deal, where profits are split, usually 50/50, between the label and the artist. This means the artist bears 50% of all costs. In both of these cases, the label still pays an advance, which they then recoup from the artist share (meaning, you as an artist get $x up front, but then you don't see any royalties/ license fees/ profit share payout until the label recoups that $x amount they advanced you). All this to say, the label and the artist want different things. Of course both want an album to do well because it's how they both see the highest return, but it's also about sharing the risk as well as the potential reward. The label wants to space out the advance they pay out (e.g. tie it to delivery or release of an album), whereas the artist wants all cash up front. The label wants any recording or marketing budget to make sense vis-a-vis the artist's earning potential and wants these to be recoupable (meaning that cost comes off the top before they start paying out royalties). The artist wants a high non-recoupable recording and marketing budget; they don't want to take on the investment and any risk of non-performance themselves. And if they spend a lot, a label wants a LOC deal to compensate for their efforts, whereas the artist wants to keep copyright or have it revert to them after a few years. For all these types of deals, the label takes on the up-front risk and funds the artist. It's kind of like a venture capital fund in a way - funds a bunch of artists, hopes a few of them break through and pay for all the advances on acts that never recouped the investment. The type of deal you get as an artist really depends on where you're at in your career, how much leverage you have, and how good your representation is.And as an artist, you "get what you pay for". If you're on a distribution-only deal, you're literally just paying the label a small fee for what is essentially a commodity service. If you're on a LOC royalty deal, you can expect the label to really "work" your album and put considerable effort into developing and promoting you as an artist, but in exchange they keep a higher share of the upside Anyway, this is getting very off topic in this particular thread so I'll leave it at that. . 3 Quote
scielle Posted January 30, 2024 at 04:01 AM Posted January 30, 2024 at 04:01 AM This is dated now - from 2019, around the time the Courage tour first went on sale, but here’s an interesting interview with John Meglen (of AEG, Concerts West). He talks about Celine, her original Vegas deal, how AEG's deal with The Colosseum ended, how he got into concert promotion. Interesting discussion of dynamic pricing, ticketing, and how the promotion business works in general."If I don't do what's right for Celine, she should fire me", he says. Wistful listening to this now... I wonder where his head is at regarding Celine with the current state of affairs. 1 Quote
stevo Posted January 30, 2024 at 07:46 AM Posted January 30, 2024 at 07:46 AM In terms of management (and if Celine is eventually well enough and wants to ‘do it again’) we need someone that is hungry and lives to have her the biggest artist in the world again, as impossible as that would be, the role needs that drive. I do think however that we are mostly all guilty of comparing Celine in every regard to all the other artists out there who are currently doing their thing, on social media or whatever else, and that Celine just may not want to. Let’s not forget the Celine fashion years after Rene died and she was literally one of the most photographed and talked about celebrities every day. And that’s only because she wanted to do it, to work with Law and show off and dress up and parade for the cameras. But then the Big Burn Out came, and here we are. Whether or not she ‘comes back big’ is totally up to her. (Please God let it not be to Resorts World). 4 Quote
Zofia Posted January 30, 2024 at 09:18 AM Posted January 30, 2024 at 09:18 AM But then the Big Burn Out came, and here we are. Whether or not she 'comes back big' is totally up to her. I'm afraid that, for now, we are far from that dream situation where everything depends solely on her decision. Unless recovery was also to be a matter of someone's own decision. Quote
Shaun Posted January 30, 2024 at 12:02 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 12:02 PM People still believe there’s actually gonna be a residency this year? She’s got SPS, not the flu! 1 Quote Bringing you the world's only Celine Dion podcast show since 2014.Find us on Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & Amazon Music.
joaofilho Posted January 30, 2024 at 12:32 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 12:32 PM I think Sony could release some rare music videos:Encore a SoirI Want To Need Me 1 Quote
Davey84 Posted January 30, 2024 at 01:05 PM Author Posted January 30, 2024 at 01:05 PM People still believe there's actually gonna be a residency this year? She's got SPS, not the flu! I know! But what we don't know is how bad she has it. Or what treatments have been done and what the effects are. I mean, when she went to Katy Perry she was walking in high heals... If SPS doesn't effect her voice, her vocal cords, and if she's not triggered by flashing lights or loud sounds, then she could still perform. Maybe not run around the stage like she used to... but if it takes for Céline to sing, by just sitting in a chair all night, I am all here for it! 3 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
scielle Posted January 30, 2024 at 01:18 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 01:18 PM (edited) I know! But what we don't know is how bad she has it. Or what treatments have been done and what the effects are. I mean, when she went to Katy Perry she was walking in high heals... If SPS doesn't effect her voice, her vocal cords, and if she's not triggered by flashing lights or loud sounds, then she could still perform. Maybe not run around the stage like she used to... but if it takes for Céline to sing, by just sitting in a chair all night, I am all here for it! Yeah seeing her at that Katy show was so heartening. The fact she can handle noise, lights, heels. - that's already a win, since many people with SPS can't.The big unknown now really is how it affects her breathing and vocal cords, diaphragm, lungs. After all, many people with SPS have severe respiratory issues. She might be able to sing a few bars but what if a spasm comes on mid-song? What if it's completely unpredictable and she's struggling to breathe, never mind sing at her level.And if that's her issue... can physical therapy really help?She has had to "relearn" how to sing properly early in her career, but this... this is different. It may not be physically possible. We simply don't know, but Claudette's comments hinted that this might be the problem. Edited January 30, 2024 at 01:22 PM by scielle 3 Quote
ryba Posted January 30, 2024 at 01:44 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 01:44 PM Get her Kris Jenner as her manager. Celine would conquer the world 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted January 30, 2024 at 06:27 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 06:27 PM Get her Kris Jenner as her manager. Celine would conquer the world Celine would need a sex tape for Kris Jenner to even be interested. 4 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
catlovergirl1982 Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:11 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:11 PM (edited) People still believe there’s actually gonna be a residency this year? She’s got SPS, not the flu! Yes apparently according to some of the fan-base on social media, (& apparently on this forum lol): "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from SPS, 2024 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" & yet here we are in almost February right around the front doorstep lol, & now there is more complete silence from Celine & company, just as it has been during the majority of the past 2 years! Yep this is all 'lather, rinse, & repeat" from the last 2 years! Remember around this time last year in 2023 when fans on social media were saying the same as they are saying now: "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from SPS, 2023 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" & yet it was not! Because at the end of 2022, she announced her diagnosis of SPS to the world, then months later in May 2023, she cancelled all of the remaining CWT show dates. & besides the small appearance she made in October/November 2023, Celine has made NO COMEBACK! & remember around this time 2 years ago, in 2022, the fans were on social media saying the same thing they are saying now: "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from whatever illness she has, 2022 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" (Did you notice what I did lol, I used the exact same quotes as before, but changed the years lol.) & what we saw in 2022: mostly silence from Celine, more cancellations/postponements of the CWT shows (which in 2023 got cancelled altogether,) then the announcement of SPS at the end of 2022. Again there were NO COMEBACK in 2022, or in 2023, or this year, or next year, or next year, etc... I do understand & sympathise with fans who are hoping for a "miraculous cure" from her current battle with SPS... I know a big part of grieving is DENIAL. & It seems like some of the fan base right now is stuck in that phase of denial, where they think Celine "has nothing g worse than the flu or common cold", (which those can be bad as well, but is nothing compared to a disorder such as SPS!) & I do hate to say it, but we all need to start accepting the fact that Celine is not going to miraculously be cured, & will only get worse over time as she gets older. A disease that is very little well known and has had such little research done on it which SPS is, is not going to be cured in a snap of a finger like we all want to, & I am very sure Celine & her family wants to. Its just not realistic. Edited January 30, 2024 at 08:13 PM by catlovergirl1982 Quote
incognito Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:18 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:18 PM Doesn’t she ever get sick of creating new accounts, getting banned, creating new accounts and then getting banned? I mean seriously. 5 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:18 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:18 PM Yes apparently according to some of the fan-base on social media, (& apparently on this forum lol): "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from SPS, 2024 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" & yet here we are in almost February right around the front doorstep lol, & now there is more complete silence from Celine & company, just as it has been during the majority of the past 2 years! Yep this is all 'lather, rinse, & repeat" from the last 2 years! Remember around this time last year in 2023 when fans on social media were saying the same as they are saying now: "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from SPS, 2023 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" & yet it was not! Because at the end of 2022, she announced her diagnosis of SPS to the world, then months later in May 2023, she cancelled all of the remaining CWT show dates. & besides the small appearance she made in October/November 2023, Celine has made NO COMEBACK! & remember around this time 2 years ago, in 2022, the fans were on social media saying the same thing they are saying now: "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from whatever illness she has, 2022 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" (Did you notice what I did lol, I used the exact same quotes as before, but changed the years lol.) & what we saw in 2022: mostly silence from Celine, more cancellations/postponements of the CWT shows (which in 2023 got cancelled altogether,) then the announcement of SPS at the end of 2022. Again there were NO COMEBACK in 2022, or in 2023, or this year, or next year, or next year, etc... I do understand & sympathise with fans who are hoping for a "miraculous cure" from her current battle with SPS... I know a big part of grieving is DENIAL. & It seems like some of the fan base right now is stuck in that phase of denial, where they think Celine "has nothing g worse than the flu or common cold", (which those can be bad as well, but is nothing compared to a disorder such as SPS!) & I do hate to say it, but we all need to start accepting the fact that Celine is not going to miraculously be cured, & will only get worse over time as she gets older. A disease that is very little well known and has had such little research done on it which SPS is, is not going to be cured in a snap of a finger like we all want to, & I am very sure Celine & her family wants to. Its just not realistic. OMGGGGG GO THE F*CK AWAY!!!!!! 4 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Nmj Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:23 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:23 PM OMGGGGG GO THE F*CK AWAY!!!!!! Don’t tell me you read that whole post? 2 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:24 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:24 PM Don’t tell me you read that whole post? Of course not. But it still needed to be said. 4 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Nmj Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:26 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:26 PM Of course not. But it still needed to be said. Okay, just don’t want you to waste time like that LOL. I got one sentence in… 4 Quote
george_matei Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:33 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:33 PM Yes apparently according to some of the fan-base on social media, (& apparently on this forum lol): "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from SPS, 2024 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" & yet here we are in almost February right around the front doorstep lol, & now there is more complete silence from Celine & company, just as it has been during the majority of the past 2 years! Yep this is all 'lather, rinse, & repeat" from the last 2 years! Remember around this time last year in 2023 when fans on social media were saying the same as they are saying now: "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from SPS, 2023 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" & yet it was not! Because at the end of 2022, she announced her diagnosis of SPS to the world, then months later in May 2023, she cancelled all of the remaining CWT show dates. & besides the small appearance she made in October/November 2023, Celine has made NO COMEBACK! & remember around this time 2 years ago, in 2022, the fans were on social media saying the same thing they are saying now: "OMGGGG Celine is going to be miraculously cured from whatever illness she has, 2022 will be her best year everrrrr & that she will be making a HUGE COMEBACK this year!" (Did you notice what I did lol, I used the exact same quotes as before, but changed the years lol.) & what we saw in 2022: mostly silence from Celine, more cancellations/postponements of the CWT shows (which in 2023 got cancelled altogether,) then the announcement of SPS at the end of 2022. Again there were NO COMEBACK in 2022, or in 2023, or this year, or next year, or next year, etc... I do understand & sympathise with fans who are hoping for a "miraculous cure" from her current battle with SPS... I know a big part of grieving is DENIAL. & It seems like some of the fan base right now is stuck in that phase of denial, where they think Celine "has nothing g worse than the flu or common cold", (which those can be bad as well, but is nothing compared to a disorder such as SPS!) & I do hate to say it, but we all need to start accepting the fact that Celine is not going to miraculously be cured, & will only get worse over time as she gets older. A disease that is very little well known and has had such little research done on it which SPS is, is not going to be cured in a snap of a finger like we all want to, & I am very sure Celine & her family wants to. Its just not realistic.What are you talking about? We are all aware of that. And btw, she just announced something. Quote
catlovergirl1982 Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:36 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 08:36 PM (edited) Get her Kris Jenner as her manager. Celine would conquer the world Haha yea right, that would not happen, as Celine is not one of Kris Jenners kids/family members. Kris Jenner only manages her kids & family members. Soon it might be some of her grandchildren when they get older & decide to go in the industry like their parents that Kris will end up managing lol. Speaking of the Kardashian show, I remember back in the day, in one of earlier episodes where Kris decided to try to manage this girl group, they were called 'BG-something' or whatever, & well it was a HUGE misfire for sure, as that groups career went NOWHERE after that, & Kris had no idea what she was doing with that girl group. I also remember even her daughter Khloe, I think it was, said something to Kris about her "management skills" trying to be a music manager (like the late Robert Kardashian apparently was at one point, before he became O.J. Simpson's lawyer lol haha,) & Khloe pretty much tried to tell her mother she sucked at it lol! Well fast forward to what, 15 years or so later, that girl group that Kris Jenner tried to "manage" has never been heard from again lol. So Kris has just stuck with managing her kids/family members over the years. & Celine is not related to her at all. Sorry for going off topic, I just thought it was funny when you suggested Kris Jenner to be Celine's manager, & that episode of the Kardashian's show came to my mind. (That was back when that show was better and somewhat authentic, later on I think it turned into dog sh*t & I had lost interest in it, & I don't even watch the current show at all on Hulu, I could care less lol.) Edited January 30, 2024 at 08:37 PM by catlovergirl1982 Quote
catlovergirl1982 Posted January 30, 2024 at 09:14 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 09:14 PM (edited) What are you talking about? We are all aware of that. And btw, she just announced something. I was not responding to you, I was responding to another poster who mentioned about "how unbelievable some of the fans are thinking that Celine is making this 'huge comeback' this year by announcing a new residency, tour, new album, etc... while she is battling SPS", & I happen to agree with him about it. Let's face it, some of you all are living in a FANTASY WORLD if you all really think a comeback is happening lol... & yes I did see the announcement about the DOCUMENTARY being released. It has NOTHING to do with a "career comeback" & nothing with her "announcing any new residencies, tours, albums", or whatever. Even though yes it would be great if Celine came out into the world to do some promotion for the documentary, but really I would NOT count on that happening, sorry. I am sure you all remember last year when the movie "Love Again" came out (the very FIRST movie role Celine has ever had in English that was released in the theaters, & was not a 5-10 second cameo lol,) & Celine did NO promotion for that whatsoever, we did not hear a PEEP from her at all, & her team just "copied & pasted/retweeted" posts from other social media pages during the movie's promotion. But we did not hear from Celine, she did zero interviews for the movie, or for the soundtrack that featured all Celine songs on it! So we should not really expect any "promotions or big comebacks" from this, just like last year. That way we all won't be as disappointed as everybody in the Celine fan base was last year when "Love Again" was released (trust me, I was one of those fans, I was very sad that there were no messages or interviews from Celine last year, I remember constantly checking Facebook/Instagram/Youtube/Twitter for anything from Celine, but alas she had stayed silent through the whole thing!) So although its okay to have a bit of hope & faith, we also need to be REALISTIC & lower our expectations from the Celine we knew in the past when she was healthy. & one more thing, for those of you who think that "the documentary should end with announcement of a new residency, tour, etc... & should not end without any announcements." Well yes IT CAN! Because last year Michael J. Fox released a documentary called "Still: A Michael J. Fox Documentary" (it is/was on Apple TV, I have watched it a few times, it is really good, it can be a tear jerker though because of Michael's struggles with Parkinsons, very similar to Celine's current struggles with her own health,) & guess what, there were NO announcements of any "career comebacks" of Michael J. Fox at the end of that documentary, in fact Michael has retired from acting about 10 years ago because of the health issues he has been dealing with Parkinson's, & he admitted he is not able to go back to acting because of Parkinsons. I am just saying, the similar thing can happen to Celine, just it did to Michael. Sorry for going off topic about Michael J. Fox, I am comparing Celine to him because Parkinson's & SPS are very similar disorders to each other, & Parkinson's had already forced Michael (& Linda Ronstadt as well,) into early retirement, just like Celine's situation. Edited January 30, 2024 at 09:29 PM by catlovergirl1982 Quote
catlovergirl1982 Posted January 30, 2024 at 09:41 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 09:41 PM OMGGGGG GO THE F*CK AWAY!!!!!! Wow you are totally rude to people who have different opinions than you! Sorry that some of us are choosing to be REALISTIC about this situation about Celine, & are not going g along with the whole bandwagon of "OMGGGG Celine is going to start a new residency, tour, new album, etc... any day now!" Because unlike some of you, we are hopeful but also lowering our expectations. Look at the past 2 years, apparently that has not taught some of the fan base to be somewhat realistic, as people are STILL making "predictions of career comebacks" even after the disappointments of the previous years when we had no comebacks. The vast majority of us do not know Celine or her family/team members, etc... personally, so it is all just pure speculation/rumors at this point, with no basis in reality! But oh my Lord, if some of us have different opinions, heaven forbid! But still does not give you the right to be mean & nasty! Your post needs to reported for foul language & rudeness towards people who have opposing opinions than yours. You need a reality check my friend! In fact you could use a chill pill & learn to accept that some of us do have different opinions. Have a good day, peace out & relax! Quote
KyleVan41 Posted January 30, 2024 at 10:13 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 10:13 PM (edited) Wow you are totally rude to people who have different opinions than you! Sorry that some of us are choosing to be REALISTIC about this situation about Celine, & are not going g along with the whole bandwagon of "OMGGGG Celine is going to start a new residency, tour, new album, etc... any day now!" Because unlike some of you, we are hopeful but also lowering our expectations. Look at the past 2 years, apparently that has not taught some of the fan base to be somewhat realistic, as people are STILL making "predictions of career comebacks" even after the disappointments of the previous years when we had no comebacks. The vast majority of us do not know Celine or her family/team members, etc... personally, so it is all just pure speculation/rumors at this point, with no basis in reality! But oh my Lord, if some of us have different opinions, heaven forbid! But still does not give you the right to be mean & nasty! Your post needs to reported for foul language & rudeness towards people who have opposing opinions than yours. You need a reality check my friend! In fact you could use a chill pill & learn to accept that some of us do have different opinions. Have a good day, peace out & relax! Well let me echo CelinesDIVO. And say GETTTTTTT OFFFF THIS BOARD YOU ARE A BONAFIDE LUNATIC And don’t worry when we see her onstage again we’ll send your #ss flowers. Now GET LOST FOREVER Edited January 30, 2024 at 10:15 PM by KyleVan41 2 Quote
dyusha Posted January 30, 2024 at 10:13 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 10:13 PM I think Sony could release some rare music videos:Encore a SoirI Want To Need Me Those were canned for a very specific reason: Celine or her team did not approve of the final product. As much as I would love to see them, I respect their decision, I don’t want Celine to put out anything she’s not comfortable with Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote I'll always be with you
catlovergirl1982 Posted January 30, 2024 at 11:03 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 11:03 PM (edited) Well let me echo CelinesDIVO. And say GETTTTTTT OFFFF THIS BOARD YOU ARE A BONAFIDE LUNATIC And don’t worry when we see her onstage again we’ll send your #ss flowers. Now GET LOST FOREVER How do you know she will be "onstage soon"? Do you know Celine or her family/team members personally? I am thinking not! Pah-lease, you DO NOT KNOW any more than the rest of us do! So far your "predictions" of the past few months of Celine's "comeback" have been dead wrong! You & some other fans on social media keep spreading these "rumors & gossip" about a comeback happening ever since the 2 appearances from last fall... "OMG there will be announcement of comeback in November on this date or that date", well we got NO announcements of a comeback in November did we, nope... "OMG there will be announcement of comeback in December on this date or that date", well we got NO announcements of a comeback in December did we, nope... & here we are in January: "OMG there will be announcement of comeback in January on this date or that date", well we still got NO announcements of a comeback in January did we, nope... & here we are now, still no "comeback announcements"! & yes there is the announcement of the new Documentary, but it still DOES NOT mean there will be a new residency, new tour, new album, or whatever else, happening. It might be just, ya know, A DOCUMENTARY & that is it? Maybe to discuss her career so far, & talk about her diagnosis & issues with SPS that she is currently dealing with? Similar to the documentary from Michael J. Fox released last year called " Still: A Michael J. Fox Documentary", (please watch it, I recommend it, pretty much what we should expect from "I Am: Celine Dion", as their health issues are pretty similar to each other,) Michael's documentary had also shown a retrospective of his entire career & life from the beginning, to the struggles he has had with Parkinson's disease & that it caused his early retirement from acting. So no, Michael DID NOT announce any comebacks, & yes it ended with the unknown of Michael's future due to Parkinsons. I am just saying, do not be surprised if Celine's new documentary ends in the same/similar way. I hope not of course, but again we need to learn how to set realistic expectations when it comes to Celine & her current situation. She has a progressive & incurable disorder, its NOT the flu or a cold! We got to keep that mind! SPS is not something that will just disappear on its own as much as we all want it to! Edited January 30, 2024 at 11:05 PM by catlovergirl1982 Quote
remykyes Posted January 30, 2024 at 11:39 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 11:39 PM How do you know she will be "onstage soon"? Do you know Celine or her family/team members personally? I am thinking not! Pah-lease, you DO NOT KNOW any more than the rest of us do! So far your "predictions" of the past few months of Celine's "comeback" have been dead wrong! You & some other fans on social media keep spreading these "rumors & gossip" about a comeback happening ever since the 2 appearances from last fall... "OMG there will be announcement of comeback in November on this date or that date", well we got NO announcements of a comeback in November did we, nope... "OMG there will be announcement of comeback in December on this date or that date", well we got NO announcements of a comeback in December did we, nope... & here we are in January: "OMG there will be announcement of comeback in January on this date or that date", well we still got NO announcements of a comeback in January did we, nope... & here we are now, still no "comeback announcements"! & yes there is the announcement of the new Documentary, but it still DOES NOT mean there will be a new residency, new tour, new album, or whatever else, happening. It might be just, ya know, A DOCUMENTARY & that is it? Maybe to discuss her career so far, & talk about her diagnosis & issues with SPS that she is currently dealing with? Similar to the documentary from Michael J. Fox released last year called " Still: A Michael J. Fox Documentary", (please watch it, I recommend it, pretty much what we should expect from "I Am: Celine Dion", as their health issues are pretty similar to each other,) Michael's documentary had also shown a retrospective of his entire career & life from the beginning, to the struggles he has had with Parkinson's disease & that it caused his early retirement from acting. So no, Michael DID NOT announce any comebacks, & yes it ended with the unknown of Michael's future due to Parkinsons. I am just saying, do not be surprised if Celine's new documentary ends in the same/similar way. I hope not of course, but again we need to learn how to set realistic expectations when it comes to Celine & her current situation. She has a progressive & incurable disorder, its NOT the flu or a cold! We got to keep that mind! SPS is not something that will just disappear on its own as much as we all want it to! OMG. Ok, the only thing I'm going to say is that I don't think any of us are in denial about a return to the stage... it's called hope. The moment I even think that she's not coming back, it's over. Sure, she may never come back, and that's ok... but so is letting people have those fantasies because it's keeping us going. Now with the release of the documentary and it being about SPS, I think that the documentary will provide some closure that we've waited so long for, even if the verdict is that it's either 1) not now or 2) not ever. Relax. Let people figure out how to navigate this as we go. As stated, with the documentary, I think we'll finally have some closure, even if it's without the happy ending we all want for Celine. 2 Quote New Signature Coming Soon!
Zofia Posted January 30, 2024 at 11:51 PM Posted January 30, 2024 at 11:51 PM In some important sense, regardless of whether she returns to the stage someday - she is already back. She is returning to public life, back to participating in the game, back to communicating and interacting with her community of fans and with anyone who wants to listen to her. She didn't have to do it; she had every right to retreat into privacy, but she's back. There is much to celebrate. 4 Quote
Nmj Posted January 31, 2024 at 12:01 AM Posted January 31, 2024 at 12:01 AM In some important sense, regardless of whether she returns to the stage someday - she is already back. She is returning to public life, back to participating in the game, back to communicating and interacting with her community of fans and with anyone who wants to listen to her. She didn't have to do it; she had every right to retreat into privacy, but she's back. There is much to celebrate. Also, if there’s one thing the her statement told us is SHE IS TRYING to come back to the stage… none of us know if that will happen or not, we can all hope, however regardless I don’t think the documentary will close that door even if it doesn’t re open it either. 4 Quote
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