couldawouldashoulda Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:05 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:05 AM If true, what a sad end to CWT. Started with a bang, ending with a whimper.I just really hope this is Covid-related, not to do with Céline's health.Miss her… I actually think the CWT started with a whimper as well. She was already starting to get sick on opening night. She made it through...what...3 shows before canceling 2 weeks? The tour may go out the way it started. Quote
scielle Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:11 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:11 AM I actually think the CWT started with a whimper as well. She was already starting to get sick on opening night. She made it through...what...3 shows before canceling 2 weeks? The tour may go out the way it started. Oh I was referring to the LA launch event. What a different time, and different world that was. Quote
idroveallnight Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:27 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:27 AM I actually think the CWT started with a whimper as well. She was already starting to get sick on opening night. She made it through...what...3 shows before canceling 2 weeks? The tour may go out the way it started. Beg to differ. I think it was her best tour yet and she was just warming up. Yes, we can complain about the song list and such but she looked magnificent, the visuals were spectacular, she was hitting high notes when she wanted, and people were singing along and cheering in ways I did not see them do 10 years ago when she was on the road in the same U.S. cities. It was almost like people had accepted her status as a legend (and she was accepting her status as a legend). From the few professional clips that were posted on her social media I think it would have also looked amazing on a DVD, maybe even better than A New Day and way better than Taking Chances. 2 Quote
idroveallnight Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:31 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:31 AM I hope it isn't health related. Honestly, at the risk of creating rumors pr conspiracy theories, I suspect she's batteling some legal matters. I think she's trying to break free from the touring contract signed in 2017. I would prefer that to her having serious health issues. It could be COVID related too I guess but idk, I have an odd suspicion that there is more going on bts. I am sure that AEG has put all types of pressure on her to return despite unsafe conditions, especially since many other artists have decided to take the plunge. Saying she has a chronic condition could be the only way to make them back off (at least contractually). But seriously, remember how scared Celine was after 9/11? Do you think she is eager to get back on stage when there's this deadly virus blanketing the world? It's amazing how just a few weeks ago I was saying I didn't think it was safe enough and everyone was pouncing on me because of safety measures that had been put in place at other concerts. The reality is that this virus affects everyone so differently and there's no reason to risk exposure if you don't have to. She knows she has a loyal fan base and we will be there whenever she's ready. 1 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:38 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:38 AM Oh I was referring to the LA launch event. What a different time, and different world that was. Oh right. I forgot that had even happened! That was an exciting time...until she didn't sing anything from the new album and announced it wouldn't be released for another 7 months. I got annoyed at that point - HA! 1 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:41 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:41 AM Beg to differ. I think it was her best tour yet and she was just warming up. Yes, we can complain about the song list and such but she looked magnificent, the visuals were spectacular, she was hitting high notes when she wanted, and people were singing along and cheering in ways I did not see them do 10 years ago when she was on the road in the same U.S. cities. It was almost like people had accepted her status as a legend (and she was accepting her status as a legend). From the few professional clips that were posted on her social media I think it would have also looked amazing on a DVD, maybe even better than A New Day and way better than Taking Chances. Don't get me wrong. There are a bazillion posts on here where I say I think the CWT is the best tour she's ever done. I saw it 6 times! But on opening night, she was clearly struggling vocally, and she very quickly had to cancel 2 weeks because she had a throat infection. I'm just sayin' the tour didn't start with a bang. It was more of a false start. Once she was back by mid-October, and especially by the time I saw her in Cincy at the end of October, gurl was on FIRE! 1 Quote
scielle Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:41 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:41 AM I am sure that AEG has put all types of pressure on her to return despite unsafe conditions, especially since many other artists have decided to take the plunge. Well let’s hope AEG has learned their lesson with Michael Jackson! Quote
idroveallnight Posted January 15, 2022 at 03:12 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 03:12 AM Well let's hope AEG has learned their lesson with Michael Jackson! I would hope they have a good working relationship with her since she has been their top selling artist over the years, but at the end of the day it's a business and all that matters to them is $$$. I am sure they were only mourning the loss of MJ because of the enormous amount of wealth they lost from those 50 shows. The more I think about it, her team has chosen the perfect strategy by saying nothing beyond their initial statement about muscle spasms. Their silence, on top of no video statement from Celine (who is normally an open book), is enough to make anyone, including AEG, believe it is serious. Quote
PuraVida Posted January 15, 2022 at 09:08 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 09:08 AM I am sure that AEG has put all types of pressure on her to return despite unsafe conditions, especially since many other artists have decided to take the plunge. Saying she has a chronic condition could be the only way to make them back off (at least contractually). But seriously, remember how scared Celine was after 9/11? Do you think she is eager to get back on stage when there's this deadly virus blanketing the world? It's amazing how just a few weeks ago I was saying I didn't think it was safe enough and everyone was pouncing on me because of safety measures that had been put in place at other concerts. The reality is that this virus affects everyone so differently and there's no reason to risk exposure if you don't have to. She knows she has a loyal fan base and we will be there whenever she's ready. Was she scared after 9/11? I don't remember seeing much about that in print or in video Quote
PuraVida Posted January 15, 2022 at 09:10 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 09:10 AM It feels ironic to have a tour called "Courage" that is about strength and resilience have so many hurdles and cancellations. It almost feels like the tour should be cancelled just to make way for an entirely new vibe, feeling, marketing campaign, and new music!!! Other artists have already entered new eras during the pandemic. 1 Quote
Celinelife Posted January 15, 2022 at 09:36 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 09:36 AM They should postpone it entirely for a new year. Re-release the album in some format, start the promo again. Seriously, they had a good run, COVID cases were so less during past 5 months.If it were not for her spasm, she could have been performing somewhere something. Quote
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comingback Posted January 15, 2022 at 09:54 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 09:54 AM Was she scared after 9/11? I don't remember seeing much about that in print or in video Yes she was scared after 9/11. If I remember correctly, she said that in the Larry King interview and in the Sonia B. interview in 2002. Quote
Shamrock_1982 Posted January 15, 2022 at 10:17 AM Posted January 15, 2022 at 10:17 AM This next few months are going to be interesting! Quote
No1IrishFan Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:10 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:10 PM (edited) Confirmed on Celines insta. Reason is she isn’t fully recovered from her health issues. I really hope she is improving. Edited January 15, 2022 at 02:12 PM by No1IrishFan 2 Quote
Celinelife Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:12 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:12 PM Well at least now we have a little more information on her health Quote
Del Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:16 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:16 PM I don't think any of us is surprised by this news. Sent from my SM-G965W using Tapatalk Quote Instagram: @delphis78
ivo Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:16 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:16 PM I hope she will get well soon and wil be able to do the European leg of the tour. Time will tell. 1 Quote Amsterdam 18-06-1997 - Amsterdam 14-06-1999 - London 10-07-1999 - Antwerpen 14-05-2008 - Antwerpen 21-11-2013 - Las Vegas 10-10-2015 - Paris 09-07-2016 - Arnhem 23-06-2017
CelineDionFreak Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:16 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:16 PM Confirmed on Celines insta. Reason is she isn’t fully recovered from her health issues. I really hope she is improving. I really hate to see her hurt and not be the usual shape she’s used to being. I sincerely hope she’s on the mend, and can get over this hurdle sooner rather then later. At the same time, I’m glad she just cancelled rather then postponing for the 4th time, no? It’s just a shame these last few years have brought on an unforeseen hiatus and thus being driven out by her health. I feel so bad for her. Get well Celine! We love you! Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
PuraVida Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:18 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:18 PM That's the "official" reasoning. I think it's correct she might be trying to do some clever contractual tricks here, either with her broader performing contract or her Courage obligations. I mean, what performer wants to be forced to perform during a global pandemic that is not over yet? Thanks to unvaccinated or non-compliant scofflaws Quote
jolo87 Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:23 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:23 PM I would hope they have a good working relationship with her since she has been their top selling artist over the years, but at the end of the day it's a business and all that matters to them is $$$. I am sure they were only mourning the loss of MJ because of the enormous amount of wealth they lost from those 50 shows. The more I think about it, her team has chosen the perfect strategy by saying nothing beyond their initial statement about muscle spasms. Their silence, on top of no video statement from Celine (who is normally an open book), is enough to make anyone, including AEG, believe it is serious. AEG knows more than we do. She is obligated to provide more information to AEG than she is to the general public, because there are legal / contractual issues involved. The fact that she has provided so little information to us signals to me that this is a very serious situation that would lead to unwanted media attention / speculation if it were made public. Both AEG and Celine have an interest in controlling the flow of information released so as to prevent negative press that might generate a media narrative that Celine is sick, dying, unable to perform indefinitely, etc. Whatever is happening they want it to go away as soon as possible without much media attention. It's very bizarre to me. 2 Quote
Shamrock_1982 Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:25 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:25 PM I think Europe will be next. Sad for those who had tickets for the Canada & U.S leg that it also says “cancelled” and not “postponed” again till another date in the future. Quote
jolo87 Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:26 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:26 PM That's the "official" reasoning. I think it's correct she might be trying to do some clever contractual tricks here, either with her broader performing contract or her Courage obligations. I mean, what performer wants to be forced to perform during a global pandemic that is not over yet? Thanks to unvaccinated or non-compliant scofflaws Let's not delude ourselves. Take her at her word. This is a serious problem and they aren't giving us the full story about what is actually going on. Quote
mirage Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:27 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:27 PM I wonder what this means for the future of shows. Since she is stated do to X shows to fulfill her contract. Guess we will see more Vegas dates later on. Can't imagine they gonna schedule North America someday when she feels like it. Quote
PuraVida Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:28 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:28 PM I am not a medical doctor, first off. But I would imagine if the nerve issue has not gone away by now, then it may not go away any time soon. Depends on the treatment course though. Or maybe the treatment / COVID has simply made the logistics of the tour too difficult and in six months all will be better. Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:34 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:34 PM Well, it's official. And they're not only saying it's because of her health but they're cancelling rather than postponing. NO WAY is Europe next. Celine won't be performing the rest of the Courage tour - it will be cancelled leg by leg so they don't have to return all the money at once and instead can dole it out slowly. It will help the company's finances. I highly doubt a Vegas show will occur this year either. Something is going on behind the scenes. She's either seriously unwell and isn't ready to talk about it or she's working on getting out of her contract. We'll call this period "the Celine Drought." I predict this will last many years. Time will tell... 2 Quote
manu23 Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:38 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:38 PM There is no way Celine is faking a serious illness to get out of a contract. She is too professional (and superstitious) for that. I'm pretty sure omicron is not the reason. Most concerns will be happening as many countries are already evaluating if in a few weeks covid pandemic will be treated as endemic. I just hope this is not some kind of degenerative illness what she is facing, it's many months already and if they are cancelling so early is because doctors think she won't be well by then 1 Quote
No1IrishFan Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:39 PM Posted January 15, 2022 at 02:39 PM The fact they’re cancelling gigs now and not postponing makes me think it’s a serious issue. My bet is Europe and the summer 2023 gigs won’t happen either. Gonna be a few years before we see her again, I think anyway. Quote
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