Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[manu23]

Why are people still going around the setlist when it was obvious from November that it wouldn’t change, at least for the American leg? Setlists barely change during a tour. Check any artists you want and the setlist will be the same all tour, with maybe one or two different songs. I’d love to hear more songs from Courage, but once the album was released and they didn’t add more, I knew it would be like that. And it has nothing to do with being lazy, they just want to appeal to a broader audience and they probably think the well-known hits and some covers do that. They might be afraid of taking risks, but definitely not lazy. And based on reviews and public reaction we can’t say they are not right. We hardcore fans might be disappointed, but I’m pretty sure 95% of the audience go home thinking it was one of the best concerts they have attended. Edited February 19, 2020 at 07:28 PM by manu23

[duri]

If there is a space for songs from David Bowie and Prince there could be space for few more songs from Courage. Dont think general audience is expecting to hear those covers songs so if she sings her own new songs efect for general audience will be at least same. Edited February 19, 2020 at 08:30 PM by duri

[Alex_Incognito]

Celine's show isn't the type that cannot go without an encore. God forbid she be a little more off the cuff and do something at the end of a set. She's a singer for God's sake. I'm sorry, but not changing the set list shows a stagnancy in her evolution as a live performer. Just because there aren't lights and video backgrounds for a song doesn't mean that she can't do something different from time to time.

 

And set lists can change for artists. Especially those that just sing or play instruments. I could see how a full on tour with dancing would be harder to do this for, but still. Come on, tout le monde.

[AdrienneM]

If there is a space for songs from David Bowie and Prince there could be space for few more songs from Courage. Dont think general audience is expecting to hear those covers songs so if she sings her own new songs efect for general audience will be at least same.

 

Difference is, most of the general public enjoy, know and can have appreciation for the covers. For the new songs they dont

[Alex_Incognito]

Also, since Celine saw the Plamondon tribute the other night - I pray she got inspired by this. I was! Those songs are freaking amazing and each one I heard I said to myself "Merde, I wish I could hear Celine belt this one out."

[Alex_Incognito]

Difference is, most of the general public enjoy, know and can have appreciation for the covers. For the new songs they dont

No one knows your songs if you don't perform them.

Edited February 19, 2020 at 08:33 PM by Alex_Incognito

[smw]

Why are people still going around the setlist when it was obvious from November that it wouldn’t change, at least for the American leg? Setlists barely change during a tour. Check any artists you want and the setlist will be the same all tour, with maybe one or two different songs. I’d love to hear more songs from Courage, but once the album was released and they didn’t add more, I knew it would be like that. And it has nothing to do with being lazy, they just want to appeal to a broader audience and they probably think the well-known hits and some covers do that. They might be afraid of taking risks, but definitely not lazy. And based on reviews and public reaction we can’t say they are not right. We hardcore fans might be disappointed, but I’m pretty sure 95% of the audience go home thinking it was one of the best concerts they have attended.

 

Agreed! The show so well designed for the masses and it's been incredibly successful. General audiences are eating up the show & that's not always a guarantee. Celine Dion makes it look easy but it takes a lot of effort -- including choosing just the right songs -- to please audiences and make them feel like they've had the night of their lives.

 

This is a wonderful tour to continue solidifying Celine's legacy. She's setting herself up beautifully for the next Vegas residency, if that happens. People just fall in love with Celine when they're in a room with her.

 

As for us hardcore fans -- I really do hope that Celine does something special for us again -- like the LA event at the Ace Hotel or when she performed at the Edison Ballroom a few years ago. It'd be wonderful to have a One Night Only where Celine performs more songs from Courage -- or basically any songs from her past albums other than her hits. They could film this and give it to us big fans as a gift. Or, better yet, splice it together with some documentary footage and release it on Netflix!

[duri]

 

 

Difference is, most of the general public enjoy, know and can have appreciation for the covers. For the new songs they dont

Dont think general audience of Celine is audience of David Bowie or Prince. Just my opinion.

[AdrienneM]

 

Dont think general audience of Celine is audience of David Bowie or Prince. Just my opinion.

 

And yet they know the songs and probably enjoy them too

[AdrienneM]

 

No one knows your songs if you don't perform them.

 

And they (in your opinion) therefore do know Courage and Imperfections and they get a lacklustre and bored response every time. Where as, people go nuts for River Deep Mountain High, Kiss and Lady Marmalade. See the difference?

[AdrienneM]

If we break it down like this. These are songs that have been resurrected either after a decade of not singing them, having not sung them in OVER a decade, having never been sung, and have been resurrected after over 5 years of not performing and became live.

 

Keep in mind, these have all been performed newly, for the first time in forever or for the first time live (not pre recorded), IN THE LAST 5 YEARS:

 

 

I Surrender

The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face

Immortality

All The Way

A New Day Has Come

Trois Heures Vingt

Encore Un Soir

Qui Peut Vivre Sans Amour

Et J’etaime Encore

Je Crois Toi

Immensite

Ordinaire

Le Vol Dun Ange

Apprends- Moi

Tous Les Secret

Ne Bouge Pas

Valse Adieu

Tous Les Blues Sont Ecrits Pour Toi

Vole

A La Plus Haute Branche

Recovering

Thats The Way It Is

How Does A Moment Last Forever

The Reason

The Colour of My Love

Im Your Angel

My Love

Refuse to Dance

Love Is All We Need

Treat Her Like A Lady

Misled

Zora Sourit

L’etoile

Si C’etait A Refaire

A Vous

Le Ballet

Ashes

Falling Into You

Unison

To Love You More

Cant Help Falling In Love With You

Regarde-Moi

If You Asked Me To

 

 

Now come on. Lets not act as if this isn’t impressive and not ignore this because your bitter about the current set list not being to *your* standard.

 

 

[Alex_Incognito]

 

 

And they (in your opinion) therefore do know Courage and Imperfections and they get a lacklustre and bored response every time. Where as, people go nuts for River Deep Mountain High, Kiss and Lady Marmalade. See the difference?

 

Don’t tell me what my opinion is. Way to oversimplify what I said.

Edited February 19, 2020 at 09:21 PM by Alex_Incognito

[duri]

If we break it down like this. These are songs that have been resurrected either after a decade of not singing them, having not sung them in OVER a decade, having never been sung, and have been resurrected after over 5 years of not performing and became live.

 

Keep in mind, these have all been performed newly, for the first time in forever or for the first time live (not pre recorded), IN THE LAST 5 YEARS:

 

 

I Surrender

The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face

Immortality

All The Way

A New Day Has Come

Trois Heures Vingt

Encore Un Soir

Qui Peut Vivre Sans Amour

Et J’etaime Encore

Je Crois Toi

Immensite

Ordinaire

Le Vol Dun Ange

Apprends- Moi

Tous Les Secret

Ne Bouge Pas

Valse Adieu

Tous Les Blues Sont Ecrits Pour Toi

Vole

A La Plus Haute Branche

Recovering

Thats The Way It Is

How Does A Moment Last Forever

The Reason

The Colour of My Love

Im Your Angel

My Love

Refuse to Dance

Love Is All We Need

Treat Her Like A Lady

Misled

Zora Sourit

L’etoile

Si C’etait A Refaire

A Vous

Le Ballet

Ashes

Falling Into You

Unison

To Love You More

Cant Help Falling In Love With You

Regarde-Moi

If You Asked Me To

 

 

Now come on. Lets not act as if this isn’t impressive and not ignore this because your bitter about the current set list not being to *your* standard.

Yes her 2016 and 2017 tours were big surprise with setlist in good way but sorry but Courage tour is big surprise in bad way ... and it could be diffrent just with few more songs from Courage. If she sang 5 songs from Courage fans wil be happy and it cant hurt general public expectations.

[Céline RO]

Why are people still going around the setlist when it was obvious from November that it wouldn’t change, at least for the American leg? Setlists barely change during a tour. Check any artists you want and the setlist will be the same all tour, with maybe one or two different songs. I’d love to hear more songs from Courage, but once the album was released and they didn’t add more, I knew it would be like that. And it has nothing to do with being lazy, they just want to appeal to a broader audience and they probably think the well-known hits and some covers do that. They might be afraid of taking risks, but definitely not lazy. And based on reviews and public reaction we can’t say they are not right. We hardcore fans might be disappointed, but I’m pretty sure 95% of the audience go home thinking it was one of the best concerts they have attended.

 

I used to think this way until she replaced “À vous” with TTWII last night. I love TTWII and I certainly prefer it over “À vous” but it’s obvious that this replacement happened completely due to laziness. We don’t know why they decided to remove “À Vous” from the setlist but they most certainly replaced it with TTWII due to convenience, as the song had been performed regularly over the past few months. They could have easily replaced it with “Terre” (or even hits such as JSP, ”J’irai où tu iras” or “Destin” but that would be pushing it) but TTWII was the more convenient, lazy option.

[Alex_Incognito]

 

 

 

Now come on. Lets not act as if this isn’t impressive and not ignore this because your bitter about the current set list not being to *your* standard.

 

Man, you must have a lot of free time.

[quebec555]

Why are people still going around the setlist when it was obvious from November that it wouldn’t change, at least for the American leg? Setlists barely change during a tour. Check any artists you want and the setlist will be the same all tour, with maybe one or two different songs. I’d love to hear more songs from Courage, but once the album was released and they didn’t add more, I knew it would be like that. And it has nothing to do with being lazy, they just want to appeal to a broader audience and they probably think the well-known hits and some covers do that. They might be afraid of taking risks, but definitely not lazy. And based on reviews and public reaction we can’t say they are not right. We hardcore fans might be disappointed, but I’m pretty sure 95% of the audience go home thinking it was one of the best concerts they have attended.

 

I'm sorry but sticking to songs such as « A vous » (finally dropped yesterday ), « Dans un autre monde », « You're the voice » and « Kiss » is being lazy, it's not about appealing to broader audience, NO ONE is really expecting those songs. They have just become easy for Celine to do. Already rehearsed by the band and easy for her.

 

She didn't work anything new to propose to the fans and to me, this is shocking when you ask your fans to pay that much money to hear the same old stuff again. I'm not talking about the greatest hits. I'm talking about the lame covers and lack of originality.

 

I mean, « Dans un autre monde » has been the first or second song of EVERY French show since 1999. Count it. It's crazy.

 

It's lazy and lame.

[quebec555]

Yes her 2016 and 2017 tours were big surprise with setlist in good way but sorry but Courage tour is big surprise in bad way ... and it could be diffrent just with few more songs from Courage. If she sang 5 songs from Courage fans wil be happy and it cant hurt general public expectations.

 

Agreed. Previous tours were tours without an album. When an artist has a new album out, he or she is suppose to be proud of it and present AT LEAST 4-5 new songs to the audience.

 

She needs to evolve artistically and the album is good. It's crazy...

[browseceline]

This whole tour has become a joke for the fans. She always says she does not want to disappoint the fans, well she does big time here! Of course for the large public, they are happy to attend the « Greatest hits world tour ». My mom will enjoy hearing Beauty and the beast, but you need a balance in a show to please the fans AND the larger public. There is simply NO balance here and it's pretty much insulting to the fans.

 

How in the world has Celine become so lazy ?

 

This tour is just a mash up of previously rehearsed songs. This is lame and disappointing.

 

I suggest the fans should write a letter, a kind message to Celine that could be posted online and sent to her team to point out the frustration of paying 300$ a ticket and hear the same old songs and arrangements over and over again. Could also be published online and sent to a journalist to wake them up.

 

She has 20 new fresh songs that are just out and ready to be discovered, she says she's so proud of that new stuff and yet... we are STILL spending 15 minutes of the show on the useless You're the voice, to make 20 000 people in an arena literally discover for the first time an old Australian 80s hit!?

 

We are still getting the Prince cover after signing it 5 years in Vegas and in 2 previous summer tours? She is not even performing the first song that announced this tour and the « I'm leaving Las Vegas» message, that is Flying on my own. It was even released as a « live single »! People are expecting it! I mean, the live arrangements of that song are already rehearsed (performed in Vegas and in London) and yet You're the voice and KISS still make the cut over Flying on my own!?

 

She looks like a karaoke singer that has no repertoire.

 

This is just being lazy and laughing at the fans and they need to know... This can't go on.

 

If it is the Courage World Tour then we must get some Courage. If it is the Greatest hits world tour, I'm not buying a ticket. Celine and her people need to know that there is some major frustration among the fans who want to see her evolves as an artist and hear new stuff live on stage.

 

Should we team up with the red heads and write something, very kind and elegant to Celine but to LET HER KNOW at last. She says she does want to disappoint the fans, well she needs to know when she does big time like this.

We could write Pepe on insta or Facebook...

 

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[Céline RO]

Céline always says that she must perform her hits because that’s what the general public wants. This makes me wonder why (on this tour at least) she isn’t performing her French hits that her Québecois audiences expect (e.g. “J’irai où tu iras”, “Je sais pas”, “Destin” and “On ne change pas”). That’s the main thing that annoys me right now.

[Céline RO]

I'm sorry but sticking to songs such as « A vous » (finally dropped yesterday ), « Dans un autre monde », « You're the voice » and « Kiss » is being lazy, it's not about appealing to broader audience, NO ONE is really expecting those songs. They have just become easy for Celine to do. Already rehearsed by the band and easy for her.

 

She didn't work anything new to propose to the fans and to me, this is shocking when you ask your fans to pay that much money to hear the same old stuff again. I'm not talking about the greatest hits. I'm talking about the lame covers and lack of originality.

 

I mean, « Dans un autre monde » has been the first or second song of EVERY French show since 1999. Count it. It's crazy.

 

It's lazy and lame.

 

I know I’m nitpicking but DUAM was neither first nor second on the 2016 tour setlist. Plus, it’s a song that people do expect. I agree with the rest though.

[celinesounds]

Céline always says that she must perform her hits because that’s what the general public wants. This makes me wonder why (on this tour at least) she isn’t performing her French hits that her Québecois audiences expect (e.g. “J’irai où tu iras”, “Je sais pas”, “Destin” and “On ne change pas”). That’s the main thing that annoys me right now.

 

This is Courage Tour not GH tour

 

anyway, when you name a tour after an album what you can expect????????? new songs, and new songs and just a few hits

[woodstock]

I know I’m nitpicking but DUAM was neither first nor second on the 2016 tour setlist. Plus, it’s a song that people do expect. I agree with the rest though.

It wasn't in Taking Chances World Tour either !

[AdrienneM]

 

 

Man, you must have a lot of free time.

 

As do you considering you seem to find time to respond to every other post I make with the same bitterness. Such a shame

[AdrienneM]

Céline always says that she must perform her hits because that’s what the general public wants. This makes me wonder why (on this tour at least) she isn’t performing her French hits that her Québecois audiences expect (e.g. “J’irai où tu iras”, “Je sais pas”, “Destin” and “On ne change pas”). That’s the main thing that annoys me right now.

 

This I agree with. To me its criminal shes not performing some of her most mammoth French hits

[AdrienneM]

 

 

Don’t tell me what my opinion is. Way to oversimplify what I said.

 

“No one knows your songs if you dont perform them”

 

Therefore, following your logic, by performing Courage and Imperfections, audiences know them. And it seems, they couldnt care less about either song unfortunately

[SantiagoColorado]

 

Dont think general audience of Celine is audience of David Bowie or Prince. Just my opinion.

 

People really enjoy those covers, might be weird to hear them in a celine show but I can tell tou people enjoy the performance

 

https://youtu.be/HUhs7gQoiIc

Edited February 19, 2020 at 11:06 PM by SantiagoColorado

[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

People really enjoy those covers, might be weird to hear them in a celine show but I can tell tou people enjoy the performance

 

https://youtu.be/HUhs7gQoiIc

 

Celine could fart into a microphone, and the audiences would lap it up.

[SantiagoColorado]

 

 

Celine could fart into a microphone, and the audiences would lap it up.

 

That's why they don't give a damm about the setlist. I would prefer more songs from Courage? Yes

Did I have the time of my life that night?! Also yes

Did I care for the setlist at the moment? No (except during BYTB)

[DionFanAlways]

 

 

That's why they don't give a damm about the setlist. I would prefer more songs from Courage? Yes

Did I have the time of my life that night?! Also yes

Did I care for the setlist at the moment? No (except during BYTB)

I know exactly what you are saying. Even though I knew what she was going to sing I was so into the moment.

She is just that captivating. She has “IT”!

[queenofvegas]

Céline always says that she must perform her hits because that’s what the general public wants. This makes me wonder why (on this tour at least) she isn’t performing her French hits that her Québecois audiences expect (e.g. “J’irai où tu iras”, “Je sais pas”, “Destin” and “On ne change pas”). That’s the main thing that annoys me right now.

 

I have the same question. It really comes down to the fact that she doesn't want to rehearse anything new. Again, it's lazy. And the fact she replaces everything she cuts with something else from the English set list proves my point. There really is no other excuse for this. And I'm 100% sure the people in the audience would have no problem whatsoever if she decided to sing Je sais pas, Destin, J’irai où tu iras, etc. These have been crowd pleasers for years.