Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[CelineDionFreak]

Wow... https://www.instagram.com/p/B3-TXgGgqeQ/

 

"sweetjunebakery

��Courage don’t you dare fail me now ��

What a week! I also had the great honor of cookiefying @celinedion this week for the @kfcyumcenter So I spent the week dancing in my kitchen to her new album for inspiration. I ended up not only being inspired for the designs but also inspired by her strength and courage ����"

Now can we special order those cookies?! I’d pay big money! Haha!

 

Side note: I just saw Carrie Underwood last month so seeing them do her cookies to is pretty awesome!

Edited October 24, 2019 at 03:10 AM by CelineDionFreak

[Nmj]

The only time I cared for TR live was in 2011 for the show. Now it’s old had. Recycle it and bring it back in ten years. And for the love of God, sing Imperfections. Have the band play to a pre recorded track and wham bam, the latest hit,

 

And I’m tickled Pour que tu m’aimes encore is out of the anglo shows. Maybe performing it less often will help her connect with the new version.

 

I’m starting to think that maybe SONY chose “Imperfections”. Celine is on a world tour promoting the album and she sings two of the three songs that were just released prior to the tour. And the two she performs both are more demanding vocal wise. Yet it seems like Sony is pushing for “imperfections” as a single at least here in the USA. So at this point, I’m baffled as to why the song isn’t done live, unless Celine just doesn’t like the song.... if that’s the case why even record it?!

[george_matei]

Sales in Romania are becoming weak

[jpatdeleon09]

Does anyone else that the reason why she sounding so good nowadays is because of her MIC, Btw : does anybody know what brand she using for this tour, is it the same as LV one

 

I think so too but i think the 1st mic that she used (premiere) sounds more open. And i think it’s on the sound guy too. They put a lot of effects like reverb, delays and thank god they did it instead of drying her voice.

[guigafs15]

 

 

I can promise you this, if she had a real manager, she’d be singing it in concert. Or, if God-forbid, she were more involved in the music she records, maybe, just maybe she’d be less disconnected to how her legacy is being handled. I guess that’s asking too much, though.

 

I always saw Celine more like a product of marketing then a artist. Don't get me wrong, she's really talent, an amazing voice, she delivers a song like no one, great performer, but she never had a real connection with her work.

 

 

And that's because she was never involve with the process. Like she admitted recently: her part was always get into the studio and record. That's it.

 

Most pop artists start like this but when they got successful they begin to get control of their own work. But when Celine's time came, Rene was the one who got the control and she just kept going into studio and recording whatever was ask to her.

 

 

I think the most she's done was, eventually, say no to one song or another. But even then, if the right person ask her, she'll probably do it anyway (like MHTWGO).

 

 

All of that results in the lack of emotional connection, innovation. She was always criticized by that. And right now all of this is more obvious then ever because she's no longer the top artist on the market, she doesn't get much money to invest and doesn't get the best professionals to work with... On other words, everything in her singer career it's a marketing decision, not an artistic one, and her marketing team are now mediocre, hence the mediocre work we've been getting.

 

 

Particularly, I'm ok with that. Her voice and personality it's enough for me. Everything that comes beyond that, I take it as a plus. Besides, I don't think that's gonna change anytime soon (if ever).

[scielle]

The dude with the hat 🙂https://www.instagram.com/p/B3_RTcPn9y0/?igshid=186ifjenbbx19

[jpatdeleon09]

The dude with the hat 🙂https://www.instagram.com/p/B3_RTcPn9y0/?igshid=186ifjenbbx19

 

Poor guy lol

[browseceline]

 

I always saw Celine more like a product of marketing then a artist. Don't get me wrong, she's really talent, an amazing voice, she delivers a song like no one, great performer, but she never had a real connection with her work.

 

 

And that's because she was never involve with the process. Like she admitted recently: her part was always get into the studio and record. That's it.

 

Most pop artists start like this but when they got successful they begin to get control of their own work. But when Celine's time came, Rene was the one who got the control and she just kept going into studio and recording whatever was ask to her.

 

 

I think the most she's done was, eventually, say no to one song or another. But even then, if the right person ask her, she'll probably do it anyway (like MHTWGO).

 

 

All of that results in the lack of emotional connection, innovation. She was always criticized by that. And right now all of this is more obvious then ever because she's no longer the top artist on the market, she doesn't get much money to invest and doesn't get the best professionals to work with... On other words, everything in her singer career it's a marketing decision, not an artistic one, and her marketing team are now mediocre, hence the mediocre work we've been getting.

 

 

Particularly, I'm ok with that. Her voice and personality it's enough for me. Everything that comes beyond that, I take it as a plus. Besides, I don't think that's gonna change anytime soon (if ever).

 

very good post! and i guess that is why she does not have much favorite songs from her past albums, like we all have. Disconnected to the songs that she recorded in a rush in the studio. But this new album should be something different, recorded with care - i hope.

 

 

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[fred]

I think it's sad she cut The Reason since it's my favourite live song since she blew ne life into it a few years ago. However things can't always go on and on so I accept it being cut. But if it was cut for it to be vocally demanding she could have sung it "softer". When I heard her sing it last weekend on a live stream I thought she sang way too many "scream notes" (the one she's somehow loved to do ever since TC world tour) which sound like she strains her voice in a bad way. She could have just easily stopped doing those...

 

And to me there are other songs which I would welcome being cut like BATB,TP (don't hate on me, it's very nice but doesn't add much to this disapointing tour sadly, TLYM (love the song but has no soul live anymore), BYLM (never gonna happen), the cover medley, IA (it's quite "flat" and boring now - bring back the TCWT version) and Courage (doesn't do much innits currenr position) and also wouldn't miss LD.

 

I don't understand people saying 'Oh, she cut TR because it's too demanding', 'she shouldn't be belting that notes, there's no need anymore' etc... She's supposed to be a singer, doesn't she? So, if you're not going to sing any of your songs because they're demanding, when you can easily sing them, what's the purpose of being a singer? I know that overusing her voice is not good, and much more with such a tight schedule, but if you don't want her to sing anything in order to protect her voice, she better stays home and case closed! One thing is wanting Céline to take care of her voice, and a very different one is not wanting her to sing in order to preserve it.

 

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[Jeanette]

 

 

I definitely think most of the time they drop it if the audience has very minimal reaction and it takes effort vocally simultaneously, if it was extremely easy to sing, it wouldnt be the case, yet if it was well received, she would keep it. Imo its a mix of both... i think it was also the case for TCOML and the long uptempo medley in 2017

 

I do agree as they will sense certain songs aren’t working for the audience but they must add something in their place instead of just shortening the set continuously.

[fred]

Finally someone but me dares to say her songs are mediocre nowadays! That's one big reason (not the only one) why her singels don't soar away on streams and charts. If it's not good enough why would the world stream twice? We do! But we are bias coz it's her, so we don't have that high demands on her songs' quality...

 

On other words, everything in her singer career it's a marketing decision, not an artistic one, and her marketing team are now mediocre, hence the mediocre work we've been getting.

 

 

 

I thought/hoped so too. But why isn't she perfroming Imperfections then??

and i guess that is why she does not have much favorite songs from her past albums, like we all have. Disconnected to the songs that she recorded in a rush in the studio. But this new album should be something different, recorded with care - i hope.

 

 

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[browseceline]

but where is ashes? opening with iacbtmn in this lioped version instead of opening with her biggest hit in these last few years.

I saw Scott price has an instagram account...... i have not written him anything yet but maybe i should

 

 

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[Nmj]

but where is ashes? opening with iacbtmn in this lioped version instead of opening with her biggest hit in these last few years.

I saw Scott price has an instagram account...... i have not written him anything yet but maybe i should

 

 

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Hahah; it won’t do any good!

[Nmj]

I think it's sad she cut The Reason since it's my favourite live song since she blew ne life into it a few years ago. However things can't always go on and on so I accept it being cut. But if it was cut for it to be vocally demanding she could have sung it "softer". When I heard her sing it last weekend on a live stream I thought she sang way too many "scream notes" (the one she's somehow loved to do ever since TC world tour) which sound like she strains her voice in a bad way. She could have just easily stopped doing those...

 

And to me there are other songs which I would welcome being cut like BATB,TP (don't hate on me, it's very nice but doesn't add much to this disapointing tour sadly, TLYM (love the song but has no soul live anymore), BYLM (never gonna happen), the cover medley, IA (it's quite "flat" and boring now - bring back the TCWT version) and Courage (doesn't do much innits currenr position) and also wouldn't miss LD.

 

 

If the setlist was slightly changed to something like this we’d be in a lot better of a place imo:

 

Setlist

 

It's All Coming Back to Me Now

That's the Way It Is

I'm Alive

If You Asked Me To

The Power of Love

Love Can Move Mountains..................————> IMPERFECTIONS

Beauty and the Beast

The Prayer—————————-> HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN LOVE

You're the Voice..........................———————> A NEW DAY HAS COME ( radio remix)

Tous les blues sont écrits pour toi

To Love You More.......................————> I DROVE ALL NIGHT

———————————-> Ashes

All by Myself

Lying Down

The Reason

Because You Loved Me

Upbeat Medley: ( all songs she’s done before to be more realistic) Eyes on Me / Flying on My Own / Declaration of Love / River Deep, Mountain High / Love can Move Mountains

 

Encore:

My Heart Will Go On

Courage

 

 

[mirage]

I think a great rule would be.

 

If you drop a song, return another one.

[AdrienneM]

How long do we realistically think shes gonna keep this bob?

[Shaun]

She cannot expect songs to become well known and received well by live audiences if they’re only ever performed on one tour then dropped. Does anyone expect to ever hear “How Does A Moment Last Forever” live again? What about “Ashes”? Are we done with that now too? If her songs don’t stream or chart well then she needs to perform them so people do get to know them better. “Recovering” too. Are we done with that forever?

 

It’s incredible that “You’re The Voice” can make it into this tour but “Ashes” cannot. She just rotates the same 20/25 songs in and out of the show.

 

In 2044 are we going to be saying “yes first time we’ve heard Love Is All We Need in 25 years since the 2017 tour!” I’m surprised that song wasn’t dropped during the 2017 tour if we’re basing the set list on audience reactions!

 

I guess what I’m saying is it would be good if she dipped into her ENTIRE repertoire instead of the same bunch of songs.

[DionFanAlways]

She cannot expect songs to become well known and received well by live audiences if they're only ever performed on one tour then dropped. Does anyone expect to ever hear "How Does A Moment Last Forever" live again? What about "Ashes"? Are we done with that now too? If her songs don't stream or chart well then she needs to perform them so people do get to know them better. "Recovering" too. Are we done with that forever?

 

It's incredible that "You're The Voice" can make it into this tour but "Ashes" cannot. She just rotates the same 20/25 songs in and out of the show.

 

In 2044 are we going to be saying "yes first time we've heard Love Is All We Need in 25 years since the 2017 tour!" I'm surprised that song wasn't dropped during the 2017 tour if we're basing the set list on audience reactions!

 

I guess what I'm saying is it would be good if she dipped into her ENTIRE repertoire instead of the same bunch of songs.

Ha! forget those "old" songs you're talking about, how about FOMO, I guess "we're" done with that also.

[Shaun]

Ha! forget those "old" songs you're talking about, how about FOMO, I guess "we're" done with that also.

 

Well it does look that way doesn’t it? But then again she might start performing more songs “when the album is released.”

 

The strange thing with FOMO in particular is it worked really well in Vegas and then London. Very peculiar indeed it’s deemed unsuitable for the tour or simply she doesn’t want to perform it.

[Céline RO]

Well it does look that way doesn't it? But then again she might start performing more songs "when the album is released."

 

The strange thing with FOMO in particular is it worked really well in Vegas and then London. Very peculiar indeed it's deemed unsuitable for the tour or simply she doesn't want to perform it.

 

My guess is that they’re planning to record a proper lipsync track for FOMO but haven’t had the time yet. She probably now thinks she would struggle with it live and using the studio version would be too obvious.

[Taking Chances]

I finally got around to watch The Prayer from Louisville, and even though that's not exactly my favorite Celine song, she really nailed it. I really loved that performance.

[Céline RO]

Is Paul Picard still in Céline’s band? Wasn’t he dropped about 15 years ago? Did he return?

[mirage]

They could use whatever they used in Vegas and London.

It worked pretty well.

 

 

 

 

My guess is that they’re planning to record a proper lipsync track for FOMO but haven’t had the time yet. She probably now thinks she would struggle with it live and using the studio version would be too obvious.

[AdrienneM]

IMO they will record a new playback in the studio key for FOMO, it just doesnt work in the lower key and she clearly found it too hard and now seems to be scared to perform it... so.... seems to me thats a likely thing

[Céline RO]

They could use whatever they used in Vegas and London.

It worked pretty well.

 

Didn’t they use the studio version?

[AdrienneM]

 

 

Didn’t they use the studio version?

 

Yep and it was ridiculously obvious

[joaofilho]

FOMO has to be used the reproduction of the Vegas and London shows, which worked well. When she sang in Canada it wasn't cool, it was very low and lifeless.

 

Another thing that is bothering me, is the video of MY Heart Will Go On. Some fans of Adele are saying that Celine copied the video, I watch the video and saw many similarities, was it the same director who made the video? ? watch and tell me what you think ??

 

 

[mirage]

 

 

Didn’t they use the studio version?

I think the chorus was lipped but now sure anymore.

During rehearsals she sang the whole song only the chorus she simply just whispered the lyrics

Maybe that's why I think the rest was live not sure.

 

Yep and it was ridiculously obvious

Ridiculously obvious? I think IACBTMN and TPOL are more ridiculously obvious than FOMO.

 

Only thing she needs to learn is not to jump up and down while doing the chorus

 

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[celinefanonline]

Is Paul Picard still in Céline’s band? Wasn’t he dropped about 15 years ago? Did he return?

 

nop he wasn't dropped..... he did leave the band for a bit because of family or so

[Critiaslux]

 

 

I always saw Celine more like a product of marketing then a artist. Don't get me wrong, she's really talent, an amazing voice, she delivers a song like no one, great performer, but she never had a real connection with her work.

 

 

And that's because she was never involve with the process. Like she admitted recently: her part was always get into the studio and record. That's it.

 

Most pop artists start like this but when they got successful they begin to get control of their own work. But when Celine's time came, Rene was the one who got the control and she just kept going into studio and recording whatever was ask to her.

 

 

I think the most she's done was, eventually, say no to one song or another. But even then, if the right person ask her, she'll probably do it anyway (like MHTWGO).

 

 

All of that results in the lack of emotional connection, innovation. She was always criticized by that. And right now all of this is more obvious then ever because she's no longer the top artist on the market, she doesn't get much money to invest and doesn't get the best professionals to work with... On other words, everything in her singer career it's a marketing decision, not an artistic one, and her marketing team are now mediocre, hence the mediocre work we've been getting.

 

 

Particularly, I'm ok with that. Her voice and personality it's enough for me. Everything that comes beyond that, I take it as a plus. Besides, I don't think that's gonna change anytime soon (if ever).

 

Not certain to understand what you wrote and the basis / assumptions.