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My guess is they're aiming for longtivity this time around. René's strategy was always maximum exposure in the first week, with all the promo concentrated around the release. But after that, it always died....sometimes a 2nd single helps push the album a bit up again, but that's about it.

 

I think they/Aldo intentionally chose to do very minimal promo around the release and go for longtivity, especially now that we know that there will be a re-release and promo in Nov.

 

But I reckon they also want to see how Céline sells "on her own"; just her name and the concerts. Probably also why they chose August as a release month, so the album can really shine, with less competition, as opposed to a busy month like Oct/Nov. And perhaps Sony's budget is also bigger towards the end of the year, so they can do more stuff before holiday season.

 

 

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If some pple here are not happy with the 60K, what would you possibly have done in case we had 15 or 20K?
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My guess is they're aiming for longtivity this time around. René's strategy was always maximum exposure in the first week, with all the promo concentrated around the release. But after that, it always died....sometimes a 2nd single helps push the album a bit up again, but that's about it.

 

I think they/Aldo intentionally chose to do very minimal promo around the release and go for longtivity, especially now that we know that there will be a re-release and promo in Nov.

 

But I reckon they also want to see how Céline sells "on her own"; just her name and the concerts. Probably also why they chose August as a release month, so the album can really shine, with less competition, as opposed to a busy month like Oct/Nov. And perhaps Sony's budget is also bigger towards the end of the year, so they can do more stuff before holiday season.

 

My thoughts exactly!!

 

Kev x

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If some pple here are not happy with the 60K, what would you possibly have done in case we had 15 or 20K?

 

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offered a Lamb to the gods :giggle:

 

I am not sure if you mean the animal of a fan of Mariah.

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I am surprised how many of you defend low Canadian sales...

 

All of this could have been said about France if they had been so low. It's the end of the summer, wrong period, Celine was there two months earlier, she did not do any concerts in a past month, there was no interview.... also, there were less concerts in Paris plus there were more international fans there than in Canada, so in general less French people saw the concerts live than Canadians. And yet the album succeeded.

Even though the sales in Canada are good in COMPARISON to other artists, it's really low. Taking into consideration the number of people attending the concerts and the fact that they were closer to the release date should at least contribute to good figures, at least as high as SA were...

 

I'm sorry, but how on Earth suddenly we should focus on a Nov rerelease? The management should always focus on promotion since the beginning and the rerelease should be only an extension of it.

 

 

What numbers did Adele or Beyonce achieve in Quebec? I'm sure they sold a lot, so it's not excuse that the sales have been low recently. It's just about who is selling and how

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I am not sure if you mean the animal of a fan of Mariah.

 

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I am surprised how many of you defend low Canadian sales...

 

All of this could have been said about France if they had been so low. It's the end of the summer, wrong period, Celine was there two months earlier, she did not do any concerts in a past month, there was no interview.... also, there were less concerts in Paris plus there were more international fans there than in Canada, so in general less French people saw the concerts live than Canadians. And yet the album succeeded.

Even though the sales in Canada are good in COMPARISON to other artists, it's really low. Taking into consideration the number of people attending the concerts and the fact that they were closer to the release date should at least contribute to good figures, at least as high as SA were...

 

I'm sorry, but how on Earth suddenly we should focus on a Nov rerelease? The management should always focus on promotion since the beginning and the rerelease should be only an extension of it.

 

 

What numbers did Adele or Beyonce achieve in Quebec? I'm sure they sold a lot, so it's not excuse that the sales have been low recently. It's just about who is selling and how

 

Funny how we shouldn't care about the month of release but then you bring up Adele... who - as you said - sold a lot...with an album released in November.

Beyonce sold 33.000 copies during her first week.

 

So let me sum up your opinion : Céline didn't sell a lot ( 60.000 copies with a french album) but Beyonce sold a lot ( 33.000 with an english release).

 

OK.

Bye.

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:shifty: :shifty: :shifty: :shifty: :shifty:

 

ΟR not of :P

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Funny how we shouldn't care about the month of release but then you bring up Adele... who - as you said - sold a lot...with an album released in November.

Beyonce sold 33.000 copies during her first week.

 

So let me sum up your opinion : Céline didn't sell a lot ( 60.000 copies with a french album) but Beyonce sold a lot ( 33.000 with an english release).

 

OK.

Bye.

 

I didn't say they sold a lot for sure. That's why I asked the question ....

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I didn't say they sold a lot for sure. That's why I asked the question ....

You must be from a remote and reclusive region, because you never make any sense, and you're constant negative tone is just something I've never seen.

 

60,000+ is a MASSIVE number in Canada especially in August and 2016. I'm not saying anything further.

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You must be from a remote and reclusive region, because you never make any sense, and you're constant negative tone is just something I've never seen.

 

60,000+ is a MASSIVE number in Canada especially in August and 2016. I'm not saying anything further.

 

I don't have a constant negative tone.

 

If it's massive for you then fine, your opinion, it's not massive for me at all.

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WW sales up to now....?
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Hey! I never criticised the sales. Actually I couldn't care less what she sells or not (and I've always said this), as long as we have a good album. Someone just posted a series of possible reasons why the album hasn't sold as much as he expected, he mentioned the lack of a TV special, and I simply agree with that. A TV Special would have helped people to notice she has a new album out. In any case, it wouldn't have hurt sales, that's sure :)

I hope you didn't take my response to your post in a negative way, Jav as I was just trying to put her recent sales in perspective as to the current markets. :flowers:

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I am surprised how many of you defend low Canadian sales...

 

All of this could have been said about France if they had been so low. It's the end of the summer, wrong period, Celine was there two months earlier, she did not do any concerts in a past month, there was no interview.... also, there were less concerts in Paris plus there were more international fans there than in Canada, so in general less French people saw the concerts live than Canadians. And yet the album succeeded.

Even though the sales in Canada are good in COMPARISON to other artists, it's really low. Taking into consideration the number of people attending the concerts and the fact that they were closer to the release date should at least contribute to good figures, at least as high as SA were...

 

I'm sorry, but how on Earth suddenly we should focus on a Nov rerelease? The management should always focus on promotion since the beginning and the rerelease should be only an extension of it.

 

 

What numbers did Adele or Beyonce achieve in Quebec? I'm sure they sold a lot, so it's not excuse that the sales have been low recently. It's just about who is selling and how

 

So you were going on about how Quebec shows were not sold out while France shows were, now the album sales....

 

Celine sold 220 000 albums in France were the population is 66 millions. She maybe sold 70 000 albums in Canada, but that's mostly in Quebec a province which holds a population of 8 millions people. Fast cross product: for both places to have the same proportion of sales, she would have had to sell 26 000 albums in Quebec. She sold close to 3 times more.

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57K in Québec is more impressive than 217K in France.

 

Anyways, great for Portugal, outpeaking SA's #27 position.

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I don't get it, usually Billboard Top 200 and the Mediatraffic WW sales were issued on thursdays.

 

No updates for this week!...

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Whoever complains about the sales in Canada has no idea about that country!

Anyone who has the slightest idea would be VERY happy with sales of 60,000!!

Yes, SA did extremely well too but there was a great TV special for it and it was in November. I'm sure there will be more promo coming as we get closer to Xmas and the album should keep selling well.

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In the meantime, the song is still #1 on iTunes France icon_eek.gif

 

And as for the album, 10 days after its release:

 

Album: Encore un soir

 

iTunes:

#1 Belgium

#1 France

#1 Lithuania

#1 Luxembourg

#2 Switzerland

#5 Canada

#5 Jordan

#5 Mauritius

#5 Poland

#12 Mauritius

#27 Slovenia

#33 Bulgaria

#38 Italy

#47 Lebanon

#54 Netherlands

#56 Egypt

#61 Belarus

#66 Belgium

#69 Austria

#77 Germany

#77 Moldova

#78 Moldova

#84 Spain

#100 Russia

#117 Latvia

#117 Saudi Arabia

#124 Greece

#129 Oman

#129 Qatar

#151 Namibia

#157 Hungary

 

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Meanwhile... http://www.billboard...ectronic-albums

 

What they should have done, instead of a (missing-in-action) EUS video, is a proper TSMGO one with Lindsey in her trademark whimsy style. With her gazillions of YouTube followers that would have been a much better marketing move.

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I am quiet sure that we are gonna have a 4th week of the single being on top of the french singles, if it continues like that the next hours!
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Celine in Billboard!!!
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Damn damn damn damn. Sia's new song dethroned the EUS single in the french iTunes.
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Celine in Billboard!!!

 

A moment That is such a sweet cherry! A french LP on Billboard for Céline...

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Damn damn damn damn. Sia's new song dethroned the EUS single in the french iTunes.

 

Sia is unstoppable, like her song :P . Like Céline herself said, she has everything an artist has to be. I suppose that includes releasing a videoclip immediately after her new single. And a true creative video. Same as they did with Céline, right? :whistling: They are light years away from each other guys.

 

And I won't follow by saying that she also writes, produces, directs and provides the concept of her videos etc... :innocent:

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"Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"

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Well Celine is a mother of 3, she has an old mother she has nothing to prove (and yes I can continue with the endless list of lazy excuses that is used widely by the fans the past years).
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