"Recovering" (written by Pink) - Official Topic

[DionFanAlways]

And what's more, it's been said Céline wants to move on and turn the page and talk no more about her grieving, so please let's hope they move on really from this kind of "mourning" songs and come with something uplifting and more radio friendly, which honestly it's what works now, what she seems she wants to do, and what we all expect, if I'm not wrong...

Yeah and I don't want people to start thinking she's capitalizing on the grieving widow thing. That will start soon in some comments....

[Lotty]

Yeah and I don't want people to start thinking she's capitalizing on the grieving widow thing. That will start soon in some comments....

 

If they do, I'm ready :raygun: :tank:

[Javito]

Yeah and I don't want people to start thinking she's capitalizing on the grieving widow thing. That will start soon in some comments....

 

Exactly! TSMGO performance in Billboards worked because it was like her first comeback to TV on an international show since René passed away (and she was also receiving an award so somehow that was also the "excuse"), but last night's performance had already a lesser impact on the media and the same audience that saw her in Billboards may well start to think that she's taking the grieving everywhere she goes now.

 

A third performance on major TV event/show about this topic, I'm not sure the general audience will tolerate it and swallow it without making remarks on her. And not the good ones precisely.

 

I hope she keeps her speech brief and moderate on Ellen next Monday...

Edited September 10, 2016 at 07:15 PM by Javito

[dodobird]

If they do, I'm ready :raygun: :tank:

 

Lol! Right with you on that! Bring it on!

[dodobird]

Exactly! TSMGO performance in Billboards worked because it was like her first comeback to TV on an international show since René passed away (and she was also receiving an award so somehow that was also the "excuse"), but last night's performance had already a lesser impact on the media and the same audience that saw her in Billboards may well start to think that she's taking the grieving everywhere she goes now.

 

A third performance on major TV event/show about this topic, I'm not sure the general audience will tolerate it and swallow it without making remarks on her. And not the good ones precisely.

 

I hope she keeps her speech brief and moderate on Ellen next Monday...

 

 

I feel you.

 

But, unfortunately, I think that the naysayers will always be naysayers. The mean comments will always come no matter what she does. NO ONE can dictate how a person will deal with grieving. This is such a personal process...10 billion people on this earth = 10 billion ways to deal with grief. So there will always be people who say that she capitalizes on that and there will always be people who understand exactly why she does what she does. Personally, I think that if one day she feels like being goofy and laughing her heart out she will be that way in front of the camera. If the next one, it hits her strong and she is sad, she will try to maybe put on a smile but her sadness will be apparent. That's who she is and this is one of the main reasons why we love her!

 

Plus, Rene had been a constant figure in her life for 30+ years and it's not even a year since she's not physically there. So whoever wants to say she capitalizes on that, let them.

We know better

[Jeffieboi]

After reading this thread, there's a lot of talk about how non fans will say this is her using René's death as a career move (and I mean people outside of this forum of course), but they all suck and I just want to comment on the song. I think the song is nice, but I think it's a little too soft mood wise. I like the song, but it doesn't wow me.

 

With that said.....

 

OMG how amazing is her voice here?!! She really sounds a lot like her FIY voice! That was her vocal peak era, and she shows that she can sing as well as, or even better than she could in her late 20s/early 30s, which is when a woman's voice is it's strongest. When I hear her sing this song...it's like my soul leaves my body and I get to experience heaven!

 

In conclusion...it's a good song...with amazing, and dare I say...unprecedented vocals.

Edited September 10, 2016 at 09:24 PM by Jeffieboi

[tomier]

Hey guys, just an update, the song is still hovering around the 50's on the US itunes, only slowing slightly. I think it might be out tonight (or at least dip a lot more...) But with elle, it has some potential to rebound again... I think the song could chart somewhere. Not necessarily the BB hot 100 .... but somewhere.. and if it grows, this could be a decent hit for her... In spite of what many have said. It would be nice if people embraced it. I don't mean to fight with anyone about the idea of it being hit material (present or past), it's just my opinion And I really do feel it could do really well in an adult contemporary area. Edited September 10, 2016 at 09:33 PM by tomier

[CelineIloilo]

Hey guys, just an update, the song is still hovering around the 50's on the US itunes, only slowing slightly. I think it might be out tonight (or at least dip a lot more...) But with elle, it has some potential to rebound again... I think the song could chart somewhere. Not necessarily the BB hot 100 .... but somewhere.. and if it grows, this could be a decent hit for her... In spite of what many have said. It would be nice if people embraced it. I don't mean to fight with anyone about the idea of it being hit material (present or past), it's just my opinion And I really do feel it could do really well in an adult contemporary area.

exactly I always know its a sleeping hit... Like waiting for the right moment

[sfbaysinger]

Well, I have been a fan of Pink for a while and I knew she wrote her own songs, but, I had no idea she could write such profound and awesome lyrics. I love the song. Now, I haven't read through this whole thread, and won't, lol but I have played the piano for over 30 years now so I do know what I am talking about a bit when I say that the accompaniment is very elementary here. The beginning chords sound like a classical piece by Bach that I learned to play in middle school, a prelude of his. I don't know if that's how Pink envisioned it. I'm also a songwriter so I believe in respecting, as much as possible, the vision the songwriter has and keeping in line with that as much as possible. Or maybe this is how whoever played piano on this track knew how to do. All I know is, I think a lot more could have done with it. If they were going for keep it simple, however, then they most certainly achieved it. For me it doesn't take away from or make me think less of the song. I love it. I am so glad she did it last night and, no matter what she says on Ellen, will be doing it there too.

[Javier_Natalio]

Cher capitalized on Sonny Bono's death and it paid off big time for her. Celine is a much less calculating person than Cher is, and people will (or should) figure that she's grieving publicly as the open book she's always been. I trust there will be little to no backlash.

 

[flutefreak]

I have no problem with her showing emotion or that she is still grieving. Shes human and it hasn't been that long. I feel that each time she has shown her emotions publicly it has been very genuine. I think it's all made her more relatable in opinion.

[DionFanAlways]

Cher capitalized on Sonny Bono's death and it paid off big time for her. Celine is a much less calculating person than Cher is, and people will (or should) figure that she's grieving publicly as the open book she's always been. I trust there will be little to no backlash.

Yeah I forgot about that and they hadn't been married in decades!

[artistman2007]

Yeah I forgot about that and they hadn't been married in decades!

i think that celine was trying not to be so dramatic and that was shown even during her last tour ,but the event of cancer and the song brought her back memories and that's why she had to act that way again ,so as she said it's not he fault people made her cry when she saw them crying

[Mudo]

The big question is: will she donate part of the money that she gets from the song to the cancer charity? I guess we will find out on Ellen; she finished the song early for the event , for the cancer foundation; now she has yet to make it clear why she recorded it ; she could have sang it live with no recording or just a demo...

[Critiaslux]

A very simple song indeed.

A very effective one too

I woke up this morning with the melody in mind.

I love it.

 

This is pure AC material. Hope Sony will send it to radio at least AC radios in Canada and the USA.

[SlovakClark]

at the end of the day, celine is going to Ellen to promote her new material (Hopefully they'll mention french album too). It not like she wants to go there to mourn. Pinks song just gives her an amazing "excuse" to appear in this kind of show. nobody would invite her to sing new french stuff in american tv

[Ericwwc]

At first, I think Recovering is an amazing emotional song. After hundreds times of listening, and I realise that it has been a long time for Celine to interpret a song with this much emotion, and her pronunciation of Recovering is her best in this decade,or even in this millennium. It has a potential as like I love you. Most of the people in my country know this song although it wasn't played on the radio Edited September 11, 2016 at 09:23 AM by Ericwwc

[Daysleeper]

It's not only that the beginning of the song reminds me of "O Holy Night" as some of you already noticed, but I can also hear some similarity with "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)".

[yellowrose14]

Eh, I really dislike it when outsiders/bystanders try to dictate when someone should put grief aside or think that evidence of it means that you are using it to make bank. There was a bit of comment like this in the years after Sergei Grinkov died and it was weird to me then, too. Celine has always been upfront about how important Rene (and her family) was to her. He has been a factor in almost every aspect of her life.

 

Arguably, Celine has already had many joyful moments in public since his death. There was the Fallon appearance, her interaction with the crowds in Paris, the marshmallow candy, etc. She could have retreated to Quebec and never showed her face. Instead, she finished the album, did interviews and tours. She had/has to talk about it, but I think she has shown balance. I highly doubt that she will ever stop mentioning Rene and I know she doesn't care what people say. As someone said, there are people on the internet who are going to say snarky things about her no matter what she does or says. They were resurrecting all of the rumors about Rene right after he died.

[mike_z]

The song is holding at #60 in the US.

With Ellen's performance she stands some chances of charting in the BB Hot 100.

[tomier]

The song is holding at #60 in the US.

With Ellen's performance she stands some chances of charting in the BB Hot 100.

That's what i was thinking. Im pretty sure this is one of her stronger holds on the itunes chart so far

[tomier]

The song is holding at #60 in the US.

With Ellen's performance she stands some chances of charting in the BB Hot 100.

That's what i was thinking. Im pretty sure this is one of her stronger holds on the itunes chart so far

[tomier]

Also, the video is at 395,013 which is pretty good (since I went to bed and woke up it gained about 80k just in those 7-8 hours) And in the statistics it shows about 165k views on the first day, that's a lot higher than I realized it was...This isn't amazon, but its very steady ... if it catches more on Ellen, and maybe they make a beautiful and inspiring video. This song could be her first hot 100 in years and years (and I barely count the prayer as a hot 100 hit)

[DionFanAlways]

I love this song. T me it's just so different from what she has done in English. I see where it would become draining for her to do night after night though.

For yall that understand good setlist placement, where would this fit in Vegas?

[Kyle_Jared]

I suspect she'll drop a bit more today and by tomorrow before Ellen she'll be in the lower reaches of the chart, possibly the 80's. After Ellen, if there is enough views (what does she typically average in viewership ; 3-5 million?) she should move into the top 40 iTunes, Should being the key. She could stay there a day or two and if enough streams we MAY see a Hot 100 debut.

[CelineDionForeverNY]

I love this song. T me it's just so different from what she has done in English. I see where it would become draining for her to do night after night though.

For yall that understand good setlist placement, where would this fit in Vegas?

 

I think it would fit well around TFTEISYF or the acoustic medley. Really hope she doesn't replace Over the Rainbow with this song though.

[mebe]

Over 400 000 views on Youtube now!

[tomier]

I suspect she'll drop a bit more today and by tomorrow before Ellen she'll be in the lower reaches of the chart, possibly the 80's. After Ellen, if there is enough views (what does she typically average in viewership ; 3-5 million?) she should move into the top 40 iTunes, Should being the key. She could stay there a day or two and if enough streams we MAY see a Hot 100 debut.

This is about exactly what I was thinking too. The real struggle is the streaming, her streaming numbers are SO low when compared to the others... Maybe if she made a video, if she promotes it a little (like the interview she is doing with, I think it is Katie Couric, in a few days..) it really does have the potential. Everyone was saying how they didn't think it was hit potential... but here it is holding very decently on i-tunes... it never hit #33 or anything but it has stayed steady this whole time. For celine, that's pretty good. Edited September 11, 2016 at 03:19 PM by tomier

[mike_z]

I suspect she'll drop a bit more today and by tomorrow before Ellen she'll be in the lower reaches of the chart, possibly the 80's. After Ellen, if there is enough views (what does she typically average in viewership ; 3-5 million?) she should move into the top 40 iTunes, Should being the key. She could stay there a day or two and if enough streams we MAY see a Hot 100 debut.

 

If the makes it to the TOP 30 on iTunes we will probable see a #90s...debut on the Hot 100.

It's true that she doesn't have enough streams. A good and inspired music video would do wonders for this song. (even without her on the video)

[tomier]

A good and inspired music video would do wonders for this song. (even without her on the video)

Exactly, maybe a showing of people who have gone through the same situation, survivors... it really could go somewhere. Like I have always said, it might not be hot 100 hit potential.. but in AC this could be really good if played right.