"Recovering" (written by Pink) - Official Topic

[celine4evauk]

why do UK people like to use this term 'rubbish' to describe things. Do you know what rubbish means to Americans. It means waste or garbage, it's a physical thing. Not an adjective. This annoys me so much to hear the word being used in such a wrong way. The first time I heard someone use this word wrongly I couldn't understand what they meant. Do you know how weird it sounds to the Westernized ear.

 

To us Brits rubbish means garbage, which means crap, which means rubbish. It also means useless. We are westerners too. Sorry you don't like the term but we'll continue to use it 😂

[Brandon]

This song is not about charting!! It's a gift to Rene .... An opportunity to turn the page...

 

Kev x

OH COME ON !! PUH-LEASE HUNNEY!!

[Brandon]

When she performed it on StandUp2Cancer, she should have mentioned to download it and that the profits would be donated for cancer research. A lost opportunity... It was the perfect place!

Celine was never one for self promotion. She always forgot what she had to say or fumbled it. It's her introducer that should say that, not Celine.

Why not release it? The song was already recorded so...

 

Honestly I think they just wanted to capitalise on her SU2C performance. She was premiering the song there and surely *some* people would look for the song later, so it only makes sense to release it, since the song it's clearly not single material and it won't go anywhere beyond those performances in SU2C and Ellen sorry

She still has to release that consistent, coherent English album from track 1 to the last one, with a defined sound and reduced team of producers and songwriters. When that album arrives, I'm sure she will get back the attention she deserves.

 

She needs to stop releasing that kind of jumble, mishmash albums full of producers and songwriters of all sorts and worlds, all put together like in a blender, press the button and "let's see what we get", like happened with LMBTL.

 

She still can do many album projects such as the jazz album and the dance album and gather some eyes and ears here and there, but as long as she doesn't go to the full with it, it will be in vain.

 

She still can record that Spanish album and leave all the Spanish-speaking audience (which is huge, mind to say) with their mouth open and jaw-dropping.

 

LMBTL (song) was a great song, if only that album had kept that style line through all of it. But the fresh attempt ended with track 2 and including those bunch of random covers and nosense songs next to Sia's composition killed all credibility to that gentle attempt of her to sound relevant and fresh again.

 

There are still many things she can do to get the attention of radios. But she stays always halfway when she gives the first step, that's the problem. She's always giving one step forward and two backwards

 

What I'm saying with all this, is that there's only so many albums that an artist with such a vast career like Celine can do, always keeping this pattern of English album/French album/English album/French album... for more than 30 years already. She needs to break that routine and release something different, a different project. And I think it's time for her to release another concept album soon. Call it the jazz album, the dance album, the Spanish album... whatever. But I think the old formula of her habitual albums and the way they are crafted is worn out now

 

Let's hope this will change soon, though!

Well said. I've always said that too.

Until they stop chasing the "hit single" this will never happen. They need to stop trying for the big chart impact and like you say focus on a coherent album that listeners actually want to listen to and love about Celine.

 

Songs such as Taking Chances or LMBTL are fine at the time but don't stand the test of time and are quickly forgotten. Stop chasing the hit single and focus on quality material!

Exactly.

[celinefanonline]

i like your signature. Do another one with Law Roach's Paris outfits

thank u, i can probably do concert one but not the outing one since there's so many each day has a different outfit lol

btw i saw my pic was selling on ebay the other day........ where's my copy right lol ahhahahha

[Brandon]

To us Brits rubbish means garbage, which means crap, which means rubbish. It also means useless. We are westerners too. Sorry you don't like the term but we'll continue to use it ��

the term westerners means people from the Americas. So USA Canada Mexico and South America. You are far in Europe across the Atlantic ocean lol. Edited September 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM by Brandon

[Moleque20]

I totally agree. If it was a gift to Rene, the it could have stayed in the album.

[Brandon]

thank u, i can probably do concert one but not the outing one since there's so many each day has a different outfit lol

btw i saw my pic was selling on ebay the other day........ where's my copy right lol ahhahahha

Why not. You can do 6 or 8 outfits. I can't believe someone stole your photo and tried to sell it. You should do a watermark on it.

[celine4evauk]

the term westerners means people from the Americas. So USA Canada Mexico and South America. You are far in Europe across the Atlantic ocean lol.

 

Actually I meant the western world which includes europe

[isurrender]

This song is not about charting!! It's a gift to Rene .... An opportunity to turn the page...

 

Kev x

 

I know that. I meant whatever she releases , it will be treated that way. To me, that's fine. I like all the songs she has released and failed

 

There's no room for an artist like Céline anymore in the US market, single-wise. A 50 year old female singer doing what she does...

 

A/C charts are not what they used to be ( it's more pop radios now playing all the current biggest hits) so she better record what she likes ...I just don't want her to turn into some kind of Streisand.

[celinefanonline]

Why not. You can do 6 or 8 outfits. I can't believe someone stole your photo and tried to sell it. You should do a watermark on it.

 

maybe when i got time i can probably do it, and yes now i put CFO on them just in case and this is off topic though lol it's suppose to be the song's topic lol ahhahaha

on saying this also the rubbish thing is off topic too lol ahhahahaha

btw does anyone know where to get like big pic or maybe not HD but good size of her last few concerts in quebec???

 

and back to topic i don't really mind if the song is not doing well on chart or so, i'm just happy that it got released!

but u know on saying that i would love if they could release a physical single of it! so like in English speaking country Recovering with encore un soir as 2nd song or so and in french speaking countries the other way Encore un soir with Recovering

[Ronny83]

There's no room for an artist like Céline anymore in the US market, single-wise. A 50 year old female singer doing what she does...

 

I really hope you're not right, but only time will tell.

 

Sure, I hope and enjoy that she does what she likes. But, being a fan, it's frustrating for me not to listen to her songs on the radio, not to have her videos on TV, not to have the hit songs she deserve. That's all.

[joaofilho]

This song was not meant to be a Hit or a "success", something like that, it's just a demonstration of love, that Celine is living and doing to move forward.

I'm sure that in 2017 it will most current and bombastic.

[DionFanAlways]

why do UK people like to use this term 'rubbish' to describe things. Do you know what rubbish means to Americans. It means waste or garbage, it's a physical thing. Not an adjective. This annoys me so much to hear the word being used in such a wrong way. The first time I heard someone use this word wrongly I couldn't understand what they meant. Do you know how weird it sounds to the Westernized ear.

Lol you are something. Open your horizons. There are different countries and cultures to explore.....

Telling someone not to use a word that is in their vocabulary

[dodobird]

I really hope you're not right, but only time will tell.

 

Sure, I hope and enjoy that she does what she likes. But, being a fan, it's frustrating for me not to listen to her songs on the radio, not to have her videos on TV, not to have the hit songs she deserve. That's all.

 

I agree. But don't forget that trends and what people want come and go in waves. It might be the case that people want Katy Perry and Taylor Swift and Rhianna and whoever else right now but in a couple of years the trends might have been turned upside down. I don't have anything against any of these artists by the way...I just consider Celine to be far classier than any of them (but that is just my opinion).

 

So just because today Celine might seem like she's not on top in terms of popularity or radio plays but in a couple of years things may be completely different.

 

I think that if someone stays true to who they are both as a person and as an artist, they can never go wrong. So let's not lose hope! I agree that I would love for her songs to be on the radio, her video clips to be on TV etc but the fact that they aren't doesn't mean that they are not going to be in the future

[isurrender]

I totally agree. If it was a gift to Rene, the it could have stayed in the album.

 

I don't understand this way of thinking. But I'd like to.

 

You're not happy with Céline releasing new music?

 

It will probably be part of the album (but nobody knows) but as we don't know when the album is coming out ...not everything has to be justified( by a commercial reason). Recovering is the state she's in NOW, I wouldn't see the purpose of singing it ...well, amost 2 years after René's death ( if the album is released in the fall 2017 as previously states).

[Davey84]

why do UK people like to use this term 'rubbish' to describe things. Do you know what rubbish means to Americans. It means waste or garbage, it's a physical thing. Not an adjective. This annoys me so much to hear the word being used in such a wrong way. The first time I heard someone use this word wrongly I couldn't understand what they meant. Do you know how weird it sounds to the Westernized ear.

So funny to read that English people don't know how to use erm English

 

 

 

I've said it before ... I'll say it again.... it's FREAKING FRUSTRATING she's not being played on the radio! I'm the first one to agree that not ever single was from last 14 years has been the best choice... but there are true amazing songs that DESERVED to be played on the radio, TC, LMBTL, IDAN etc. Why were all ignored? and saying she's too old to be played is bull, cos Kylie, J.Lo and Madonna were still played in these years and they're the same age. Also not every listener is a 14 year old girl who loved Justin Bieber only. And even then, there are 14 year old girls here who love Celine, but can't hear her on the radio.

 

Somehow, someway the entire radio world decided to stop playing Celine, with no apparent reason. That's frustrating

 

Rant over

Edited September 18, 2016 at 03:21 PM by Davey84

[québecflower]

So funny to read that English people don't know how to use erm English

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've said it before ... I'll say it again.... because it's FREAKING FRUSTRATING! I'm the first one to agree that not ever single was from last 14 years has been the best choice... but there are true amazing songs that DESERVED to be played on the radio, TC, LMBTL, IDAN etc. Why were all ignored? and saying she's too old to be played is bull, cos Kylie, J.Lo and Madonna were still played in these years and they're the same age. Also not every listener is a 14 year old girl who loved Justin Bieber only. And even then, there are 14 year old girls here who love Celine, but can't hear her on the radio.

 

Somehow, someway the entire radio world decided to stop playing Celine, with no apparent reason. That's frustrating

because there is somethig we don't know, there is a reason surely, and i think we need to accept it. But it is easy to say for me, she is played non-stop on ac stations in Québec.

[Davey84]

because there is somethig we don't know, there is a reason surely, and i think we need to accept it. But it is easy to say for me, she is played non-stop on ac stations in Québec.

I will never accept it!!

 

Just like socks in sandals

[DionFanAlways]

Somehow, someway the entire radio world decided to stop playing Celine, with no apparent reason. That's frustrating

 

Rant over :bushing1:

Exactly! Je ne comprends pas! I don't get it!! I thought it was just me that felt this way.

I thought for sure LMBTL would have gotten some play time but nada! and

[ryba]

Come on, she is not 50 yet!

[CelinesDIVO5]

She still has to release that consistent, coherent English album from track 1 to the last one, with a defined sound and reduced team of producers and songwriters. When that album arrives, I'm sure she will get back the attention she deserves.

 

She needs to stop releasing that kind of jumble, mishmash albums full of producers and songwriters of all sorts and worlds, all put together like in a blender, press the button and "let's see what we get", like happened with LMBTL.

 

She still can do many album projects such as the jazz album and the dance album and gather some eyes and ears here and there, but as long as she doesn't go to the full with it, it will be in vain.

 

She still can record that Spanish album and leave all the Spanish-speaking audience (which is huge, mind to say) with their mouth open and jaw-dropping.

 

LMBTL (song) was a great song, if only that album had kept that style line through all of it. But the fresh attempt ended with track 2 and including those bunch of random covers and nosense songs next to Sia's composition killed all credibility to that gentle attempt of her to sound relevant and fresh again.

 

There are still many things she can do to get the attention of radios. But she stays always halfway when she gives the first step, that's the problem. She's always giving one step forward and two backwards

 

What I'm saying with all this, is that there's only so many albums that an artist with such a vast career like Celine can do, always keeping this pattern of English album/French album/English album/French album... for more than 30 years already. She needs to break that routine and release something different, a different project. And I think it's time for her to release another concept album soon. Call it the jazz album, the dance album, the Spanish album... whatever. But I think the old formula of her habitual albums and the way they are crafted is worn out now

 

Let's hope this will change soon, though!

 

I get why so many were unhappy with LMBTL as an album, but it really wasn't as horrible to trashed as harshly as it is. The title track was exceptional. I love "Incredible." I think it had a nice and fresh sound, and I love it's message. "Somebody Loves Somebody" was fire, and after they leaked it and there was a decent buzz around it, it should have been immediately released as a single, regardless of the release of the track LMBTL (or lack thereof.) I prefer every live performance of "Water and a Flame" to the studio version, but we wouldn't have any live performances if it hadn't been for Celine recording it. And the tweaks they made and her involvement in making it her own is commendable. "Didn't Know Love" is beautiful. The composition is absolutely gorgeous and I think the lyrics are great. "Thank You" is I think one of my top 5 English Celine songs ever. I love it's sound and production. "Breakaway" is EVERYTHING. She should absolutely add it to Vegas. And I like how they remixed "Unfinished Song." It's schmaltz to the max, but I enjoy it. As for the covers, they're lovely, and I understand why they pushed to have them on the album. However, they should have only chosen one and they should have been between "At Seventeen" or "Open Arms." They're the only 2, production wise that would have fit the standard edition of the album and then they should have recorded a few extra new songs. The rest of the Vegas covers should have just been released on a digital, iTunes exclusive EP. At least it would have had it's own coherence there. But other than that, I thought LMBTL was rather good.

[celine4evauk]

 

 

I get why so many were unhappy with LMBTL as an album, but it really wasn't as horrible to trashed as harshly as it is. The title track was exceptional. I love "Incredible." I think it had a nice and fresh sound, and I love it's message. "Somebody Loves Somebody" was fire, and after they leaked it and there was a decent buzz around it, it should have been immediately released as a single, regardless of the release of the track LMBTL (or lack thereof.) I prefer every live performance of "Water and a Flame" to the studio version, but we wouldn't have any live performances if it hadn't been for Celine recording it. And the tweaks they made and her involvement in making it her own is commendable. "Didn't Know Love" is beautiful. The composition is absolutely gorgeous and I think the lyrics are great. "Thank You" is I think one of my top 5 English Celine songs ever. I love it's sound and production. "Breakaway" is EVERYTHING. She should absolutely add it to Vegas. And I like how they remixed "Unfinished Song." It's schmaltz to the max, but I enjoy it. As for the covers, they're lovely, and I understand why they pushed to have them on the album. However, they should have only chosen one and they should have been between "At Seventeen" or "Open Arms." They're the only 2, production wise that would have fit the standard edition of the album and then they should have recorded a few extra new songs. The rest of the Vegas covers should have just been released on a digital, iTunes exclusive EP. At least it would have had it's own coherence there. But other than that, I thought LMBTL was rather good.

 

I still remember a friend of mine loving LMBTL, hating Breakaway (she called it "shouty", then refusing point blank to listen to the album 😢

 

Must admit though, I never listen to At 17, always listen to HDYKTMP 😁

Edited September 13, 2016 at 08:05 PM by celine4evauk

[celine4evauk]

 

So funny to read that English people don't know how to use erm English

 

 

 

I've said it before ... I'll say it again.... it's FREAKING FRUSTRATING she's not being played on the radio! I'm the first one to agree that not ever single was from last 14 years has been the best choice... but there are true amazing songs that DESERVED to be played on the radio, TC, LMBTL, IDAN etc. Why were all ignored? and saying she's too old to be played is bull, cos Kylie, J.Lo and Madonna were still played in these years and they're the same age. Also not every listener is a 14 year old girl who loved Justin Bieber only. And even then, there are 14 year old girls here who love Celine, but can't hear her on the radio.

 

Somehow, someway the entire radio world decided to stop playing Celine, with no apparent reason. That's frustrating

 

Rant over :bushing1:

 

Think we're meant to speak American English - wrongly 😉😁

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I still remember a friend of mine loving LMBTL, hating Breakaway (she called it "shouty", then refusing point blank to listen to the album 😢

 

Must admit though, I never listen to At 17, always listen to HDYKTMP 😁

 

I love HDYKTMP, it just didn't fit the album. "At Seventeen" as a song in general has a timeless arrangement. I love what Babyface did with it. "Open Arms" production is fabulous. I think it would have fit better than any of the covers. But if there had to be a choice on which to include in the album, I would have still left it between these 2.

[mebe]

I'm impressed by the fact that the song is still #10 in Canada!

[celinesounds]

the song just needs radio production to be a real single

[Kyle_Jared]

well i'm pretty sure this is not meant to launch a new english album......cause if it is, it's gonna tank lol.

[Del]

 

I will never accept it!!

 

Just like socks in sandals

Stop being in denial Davey. We all know your styling the socks and sandals style in private!

[Brandon]

This song was not meant to be a Hit or a "success", something like that, it's just a demonstration of love, that Celine is living and doing to move forward.

I'm sure that in 2017 it will most current and bombastic.

I call bull sht on this one. Of course the song was meant to be a hit. Why would she name drop Pink's name every chance she gets. And it's out on Vevo and being promoted.

Lol you are something. Open your horizons. There are different countries and cultures to explore.....

Telling someone not to use a word that is in their vocabulary

I know I do love the UK people but their accents drive me insane. As if that wasn't hard enough they have all these colloquialisms they use. And I haven't a clue what their saying. When I went to England after a while I stopped talking to the locals because I could not maintain a conversation with just normal words. Do you know they even have a different word for toilet. I swear to you they call it. Get ready for this one. Loo. I am like what the heck? Don't tell me this is english cuz it's not. I do love the UK people though. They're nice and the guys are hot with their tight jeans

So funny to read that English people don't know how to use erm English

Lol.

[Brandon]

well i'm pretty sure this is not meant to launch a new english album......cause if it is, it's gonna tank lol.

The album isn't due out for another several months