"Courage" album - Official Topic

[PuraVida]

Céline has a lot of streams in: Apple Music, Pandora, Amazon Music

Céline hasn't a lof ot streams in: Deezer, Spotify, Tidal

 

The 750 million streams, acording to him is from all plataforms: apple music, pandora, Amazon music, Youtube/Youtubemusic, Deezer, Spotify, Tidal, Etc...

 

 

It's my own ignorance, sorry I was wrong. I thought Spotify was way bigger than Pandora. Pandora has almost 60 million listeners in the USA...what?!

 

Spotify has only 30 million.

[guigafs15]

 

 

 

It's my own ignorance, sorry I was wrong. I thought Spotify was way bigger than Pandora. Pandora has almost 60 million listeners in the USA...what?!

 

Spotify has only 30 million.

 

I don't think that is accurate, though. Pandora has 63 million World Wide (2020). I doubt that 60 million of it is just on US.

Spotify has 299 million. And Spotify is increasing his numbers, while Pandora has decreased every year since 2016.

 

You can see in here: https://newsroom.spotify.com/2020-07-29/spotify-reports-second-quarter-2020-earnings/

 

And here:

https://www.businessofapps.com/data/pandora-statistics/

 

[pat200]

I always do the same question and receive the same answer: The promotion needs Céline help too.

 

Can you friend give us updated numbers about all her sales?

Also can you ask your friend to push people at Sony to update her certifications?

 

Nothing to lose by trying to ask haha

Edited March 1, 2021 at 05:42 PM by pat200

[rodrigo]

Can you friend give us updated numbers about all her sales?

Also can you ask your friend to push people at Sony to update her certifications?

 

Nothing to lose by trying to ask haha

 

In 2019, before "Courage album". He told me that in 2020 Céline would receive a special award for her world sales. This It would be used to help the promotion from the tour and the album.

And I asked for the numbers and he said: Award for plus 230 million albums in english and plus 100 million albuns in French, with two career in totaly plus 330 million albuns sold.

Another salles information, is about All the Way...and all the albums versions with more than 30 million copies, with this, Céline is the only one with three albums plus 30 million copies sold each one.

But, with Covid World problems, everything was canceld.

And, in this time, he told me about more movie songs, and a movie too (in this case I Don't have any more information)

[pat200]

In 2019, before "Courage album". He told me that in 2020 Céline would receive a special award for her world sales. This It would be used to help the promotion from the tour and the album.

And I asked for the numbers and he said: Award for plus 230 million albums in english and plus 100 million albuns in French, with two career in totaly plus 330 million albuns sold.

Another salles information, is about All the Way...and all the albums versions with more than 30 million copies, with this, Céline is the only one with three albums plus 30 million copies sold each one.

But, with Covid World problems, everything was canceld.

And, in this time, he told me about more movie songs, and a movie too (in this case I Don't have any more information)

 

Holy moly, those numbers are crazy. Wish they would give detailed breakdowns!

[smw]

 

 

In 2019, before "Courage album". He told me that in 2020 Céline would receive a special award for her world sales. This It would be used to help the promotion from the tour and the album.

And I asked for the numbers and he said: Award for plus 230 million albums in english and plus 100 million albuns in French, with two career in totaly plus 330 million albuns sold.

Another salles information, is about All the Way...and all the albums versions with more than 30 million copies, with this, Céline is the only one with three albums plus 30 million copies sold each one.

But, with Covid World problems, everything was canceld.

And, in this time, he told me about more movie songs, and a movie too (in this case I Don't have any more information)

 

Wow!

[joaofilho]

I hope this is just a postponement and that they will promote this information soon.

[PuraVida]

I don't think that is accurate, though. Pandora has 63 million World Wide (2020). I doubt that 60 million of it is just on US.

Spotify has 299 million. And Spotify is increasing his numbers, while Pandora has decreased every year since 2016.

 

You can see in here: https://newsroom.spo...-2020-earnings/

 

And here:

https://www.business...ora-statistics/

 

I was using this:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190989/active-users-of-music-streaming-service-pandora-since-2009/#:~:text=Number%20of%20Pandora's%20active%20users%20in%20the%20U.S.%202013%2D2020&text=In%20the%20third%20quarter%20of,in%20the%20last%20two%20years.

[weasley123]

 

 

I always do the same question and receive the same answer: The promotion needs Céline help too.

 

I wonder what this means. Do they think Celine didn't do enough effort to support the promotion?

[CSCfan]

I wonder what this means. Do they think Celine didn't do enough effort to support the promotion?

 

Of course she doesn't. It works both ways, and Céline's priorities/preferences clearly lie somewhere else 2017 onwards.

And of course there's a lot Sony can do without Céline (especially present day with social media), but a "bit" more effort from her side would've helped a lot.

[Ri2n]

In 2019, before "Courage album". He told me that in 2020 Céline would receive a special award for her world sales. This It would be used to help the promotion from the tour and the album.

And I asked for the numbers and he said: Award for plus 230 million albums in english and plus 100 million albuns in French, with two career in totaly plus 330 million albuns sold.

Another salles information, is about All the Way...and all the albums versions with more than 30 million copies, with this, Céline is the only one with three albums plus 30 million copies sold each one.

But, with Covid World problems, everything was canceld.

And, in this time, he told me about more movie songs, and a movie too (in this case I Don't have any more information)

 

It is very interesting. Is there any other information from your friend?

[ordinary fan]

In 2019, before "Courage album". He told me that in 2020 Céline would receive a special award for her world sales. This It would be used to help the promotion from the tour and the album.

And I asked for the numbers and he said: Award for plus 230 million albums in english and plus 100 million albuns in French, with two career in totaly plus 330 million albuns sold.

Another salles information, is about All the Way...and all the albums versions with more than 30 million copies, with this, Céline is the only one with three albums plus 30 million copies sold each one.

But, with Covid World problems, everything was canceld.

And, in this time, he told me about more movie songs, and a movie too (in this case I Don't have any more information)

Oh wow, so then Celine officially belongs in the category of singers who have over 300 million sales worldwide. Someone must correct wikipedia then. Great news Edited March 2, 2021 at 06:12 PM by ordinary fan

[rodrigo]

It is very interesting. Is there any other information from your friend?

 

About Salles:

- Celine Dion + 10 million copies

- One Heart + 10 million copies

- Taking Chances + 4,6 million copies

 

He told me about a video from "Loved Me Back to Life" canceld. I asked for what song and he just said: Eh Eh Eh Eh Somebody Loves Somebody...I was in chock because I love this song so much! No more information about it.

 

About Lying Down video: not cancelled, just is waiting for the tour return

 

Everything about the tour and album is waiting Céline return.

 

A new Courage album edition (no more information about it)

[ordinary fan]

About Salles:

- Celine Dion + 10 million copies

- One Heart + 10 million copies

- Taking Chances + 4,6 million copies

 

He told me about a video from "Loved Me Back to Life" canceld. I asked for what song and he just said: Eh Eh Eh Eh Somebody Loves Somebody...I was in chock because I love this song so much! No more information about it.

 

About Lying Down video: not cancelled, just is waiting for the tour return

 

Everything about the tour and album is waiting Céline return.

 

A new Courage album edition (no more information about it)

Oh how I would have loved the videos for LMBTL and SLS, two of my faves from her ever. And great to know that the LD video isn't canceled. Seems it will be a interesting time, once Celine is back

[smw]

Oh wow, so then Celine officially belongs in the category of singers who have over 300 million sales worldwide. Someone must correct wikipedia then. Great news

 

Yes! I hope this gets updated very soon.

[ordinary fan]

Yes! I hope this gets updated very soon.

I can try, but sometimes the changes I make get deleted

[Alex_Incognito]

 

 

About Salles:

- Celine Dion + 10 million copies

- One Heart + 10 million copies

- Taking Chances + 4,6 million copies

 

He told me about a video from "Loved Me Back to Life" canceld. I asked for what song and he just said: Eh Eh Eh Eh Somebody Loves Somebody...I was in chock because I love this song so much! No more information about it.

 

About Lying Down video: not cancelled, just is waiting for the tour return

 

Everything about the tour and album is waiting Céline return.

 

A new Courage album edition (no more information about it)

What a load of BS and I don’t mean Barbra Streisand or Britney Spears.

[actofcontrition]

 

What a load of BS and I don’t mean Barbra Streisand or Britney Spears.

 

Yeah i dont believe anything on this list!

Edited March 2, 2021 at 11:24 PM by actofcontrition

[ordinary fan]

What a load of BS and I don’t mean Barbra Streisand or Britney Spears.

Why? Of course I don't really know if all that is true or not. But the sales seem possible to me, one heart album includes Celine's last big hit IDAN, around 2003 it already sold 5 million copies, so nearly 20 years later + 10 million copies why not? She was promoting the album in AND show and TC world tour and so on. Same with the self-titled album. Through out the 90's until now I think atleast 15 million copies sold are quite possible. Same gos for the sales for TC album. Celine msy not be the selling force she was in the 90's, but she is still one of the most successful touring acts worldwide, so why can't also her sales benefit from that too?

SLS video I don't know why sony canceled the video but we often wonder about sony's actions or why there aren't some.

And that everything is waiting for Celine's return makes also sense for me. One might probably not get the marketing strategy of them, I mean the album was released in 2019, but hey if new things are coming out, we all will be happy.

Edited March 3, 2021 at 10:12 AM by ordinary fan

[manu23]

There is no way One Hart has sold 10M copies. And about Lying Down video waiting for the tour to resume? No way, that album is well forgotten, by the time the tour starts the focus will be the new French album.

 

So I wouldn't trust this source so much.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Why? Of course I don't really know if all that is true or not. But the sales seem possible to me, one heart album includes Celine's last big hit IDAN, around 2003 it already sold 5 million copies, so nearly 20 years later + 10 million copies why not? She was promoting the album in AND show and TC world tour and so on. Same with the self-titled album. Through out the 90's until now I think atleast 15 million copies sold are quite possible. Same gos for the sales for TC album. Celine msy not be the selling force she was in the 90's, but she is still one of the most successful touring acts worldwide, so why can't also her sales benefit from that too?

SLS video I don't know why sony canceled the video but we often wonder about sony's actions or why there aren't some.

And that everything is waiting for Celine's return makes also sense for me. One might probably not get the marketing strategy of them, I mean the album was released in 2019, but hey if new things are coming out, we all will be happy.

 

 

I question the SLS video, because Sony was very clear that there was going to be no commercial support for any singles. No official radio releases, no videos etc.

[joaofilho]

I question the SLS video, because Sony was very clear that there was going to be no commercial support for any singles. No official radio releases, no videos etc.

I remember that, the weirdest thing was because they made the Incredible video and it took a long time to come out, anyway, the video was good.

[comingback]

 

 

In 2019, before "Courage album". He told me that in 2020 Céline would receive a special award for her world sales. This It would be used to help the promotion from the tour and the album.

And I asked for the numbers and he said: Award for plus 230 million albums in english and plus 100 million albuns in French, with two career in totaly plus 330 million albuns sold.

Another salles information, is about All the Way...and all the albums versions with more than 30 million copies, with this, Céline is the only one with three albums plus 30 million copies sold each one.

But, with Covid World problems, everything was canceld.

And, in this time, he told me about more movie songs, and a movie too (in this case I Don't have any more information)

 

30 million for ATW ??? The last number I can find is 22 million (10-15 years old ?). 8 million in 10-15 years, who knows (Vegas Shop, Touring...)?

[pat200]

30 million for ATW ??? The last number I can find is 22 million (10-15 years old ?). 8 million in 10-15 years, who knows (Vegas Shop, Touring...)?

i am assuming 30 million is either with streaming equivalent and shipments, so not all pure sales. i think record labels count a shipment as a sale.

So if around 23 million pure sales, then 3 million or so from streaming, 4 million left at record stores around the world is a viable estimate?

[comingback]

 

 

About Salles:

- Celine Dion + 10 million copies

- One Heart + 10 million copies

- Taking Chances + 4,6 million copies

 

He told me about a video from "Loved Me Back to Life" canceld. I asked for what song and he just said: Eh Eh Eh Eh Somebody Loves Somebody...I was in chock because I love this song so much! No more information about it.

 

About Lying Down video: not cancelled, just is waiting for the tour return

 

Everything about the tour and album is waiting Céline return.

 

A new Courage album edition (no more information about it)

 

10 million for OH (last number 5 million)? When was the last update on Celine's numbers? And a SLS video would have been amazing😍.

[george_matei]

 

 

10 million for OH (last number 5 million)? When was the last update on Celine's numbers? And a SLS video would have been amazing😍.

I've read somewhere 8 million about OH.

[ryba]

Where did the SLS video rumor/idea came from? I don't remember there being talks of a music video for SLS.

[ryba]

And by the way guys, it this actually true that there was a music video shot for Eyes On Me, but becuase it included bulls/rodeo theme it got scrapped, becuase they were afraid of the reaction by animal protectors? Or was that just a bunch of nonsense?

[PuraVida]

And by the way guys, it this actually true that there was a music video shot for Eyes On Me, but becuase it included bulls/rodeo theme it got scrapped, becuase they were afraid of the reaction by animal protectors? Or was that just a bunch of nonsense?

 

I dunno, but if that was the reason, I'm glad they backed off.

[Bruno Portugal]

And by the way guys, it this actually true that there was a music video shot for Eyes On Me, but becuase it included bulls/rodeo theme it got scrapped, becuase they were afraid of the reaction by animal protectors? Or was that just a bunch of nonsense?

 

Celine was filmed with a famous Spanish torero for the TC tour video. I believe that the shots were made for the EOM performance. But it was censored by some puritans... The same old story like the original IWYTNM music video.