"Courage" album - Official Topic

[PuraVida]

There are better people for that than me .We happenned to have some good sources in the past, I'm usually very catious with all that but like it was something quite known. And, I guess in a short time people here could find some videos. But at that time evidences coming directly from her mouth and other indirect talk clearly show that they went trough something, without dramatising. I'm surprised you seem to discover it She spoke quite a few times about all that.

 

So you insist, yet you can't remember exactly? I mean, c'mon. If you are so sure, you should have the sources to back it up. Otherwise, that's speculation.

 

As for the A New Day...documentary....being mad at not having enough time off in between projects, is not the same thing as Rene having dragged Celine to Vegas against her will.

[PuraVida]

It was a radio single in the US - I think it was released late September/early October. The song was also on Barbara's album and hers got released one week before Let's Talk About Love. (It's the only reason I bought that album of Barbara's which I actually ended up quite enjoying.) The song only had about a month until it was completely pushed aside for My Heart Will Go On. One month after the MHWGO's release, the movie was released and then...

 

I recently got into Barbra, and it was through that album. The song "On Holy Ground" was what did it....honestly, it's almost like The Hard Way of Barbra's career. To deliver a vocal performance like that at the age of 55 or something was incredible. Her E5 belts were incredible...even if they weren't G5s like Celine did.

 

So, it was released as a single but never charted on Billboard? It went to #5 on the AC Charts, which usually guarantees a Billboard placement somewhere.

[comingback]

and it s in the A new day DVD where she literally cries explaining how she didn’t want to do that ?

We have quite a few direct words from her on that plus all the non explicit talk we had at that time. Plus reliable sources telling us at how they went through quite a hard time all due to a new day and Vegas.

 

Then after that she managed to find a confort zone and that s another story.

 

Yes, it was the A New Day interview (Quebec version). She said, that she didn't want to do the show after RC birth. But Rene told her that are too many people and too much money is involved. So she did the show.

Edited November 24, 2020 at 04:36 AM by comingback

[jpatdeleon09]

Yes, it was the A New Day interview (Quebec version). She said, that she didn't want to do the show after RC birth. But Rene told her that are too many people and too much money is involved. So she did the show.

Yes, it was the A New Day interview (Quebec version). She said, that she didn't want to do the show after RC birth. But Rene told her that are too many people and too much money is involved. So she did the show.

 

Actually, it’s on A New Day... The Secrets (it’s on English version as well).

[Ajax]

So you insist, yet you can't remember exactly? I mean, c'mon. If you are so sure, you should have the sources to back it up. Otherwise, that's speculation.

 

As for the A New Day...documentary....being mad at not having enough time off in between projects, is not the same thing as Rene having dragged Celine to Vegas against her will.

 

Ryba, honestly the subject about Celine and Vegas was everywhere, she told she didn't want to, cannot be clearer.

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[zuv]

Who else forgot about Soul these past couple months? Lol

 

Its a fun song. Wakes u up. Haha

[couldawouldashoulda]

Who else forgot about Soul these past couple months? Lol

 

Its a fun song. Wakes u up. Haha

 

I LOVE SOUL!!!! I listen to it all the time. (But my husband hates it - makes him crazy. )

[nuts2you]

Yes, it was the A New Day interview (Quebec version). She said, that she didn't want to do the show after RC birth. But Rene told her that are too many people and too much money is involved. So she did the show.

 

Here is that Video

[Bruno Portugal]

Grammy Awards: Zero nominations for Celine and Courage.

[couldawouldashoulda]

Grammy Awards: Zero nominations for Celine and Courage.

 

No shock there. The Grammy nominates sales and chart toppers.

[zuv]

 

 

No shock there. The Grammy nominates sales and chart toppers.

 

It went #1 ... for few hours 😜

[PuraVida]

Grammy Awards: Zero nominations for Celine and Courage.

 

This was her last great shot I feel.

[manolo19]

Awards= I hate watching those when Celine is not on it .

[PuraVida]

Awards=�� I hate watching those when Celine is not on it .

 

She needs to be on again soon! It's usually the Billboards that are kind to her

Edited November 25, 2020 at 04:55 AM by PuraVida

[Céline RO]

This was her last great shot I feel.

 

Have you forgotten? The best is yet to come!

[ryba]

This album had so much potential. She generated so much momentum before the release, everybody was awaiting it, and when it was finally released, they treated it as if it was just another album. They had the benefit of the tour-bundle, it reached number one, and insted of capitalising on all of that and keeping the album on peak position and aggressively promoting the hell out of it, they did NOTHING! What a team, what competence, what ambition... It's really hard to believe what is going on there.

[manolo19]

The worst is that they won a webby award for marketing strategy on the web F.off

[Kyle_Jared]

Celine is a legacy artist. It does not matter what else she did during this era. The Grammy's were never going to nominate her in the Pop categories again; those are now relegated to the youngest and hippest acts. That being said, the Grammys are losing credibility even in the eyes of the industry. The weekend had the biggest record of the year and was given ZERO NOMINATIONS! Do you think if he score zero nominations, Celine was going to get any??

 

She has Grammys for top General Field Categories (Record and Album of the Year) which is hard feat to accomplish. Perhaps someday she'll get in traditional pop when she goes that route.

 

I don't even watch the Grammys anymore as they are not reflective of what I think should be nominated. There's stuff going on .....

[PuraVida]

Celine is a legacy artist. It does not matter what else she did during this era. The Grammy's were never going to nominate her in the Pop categories again; those are now relegated to the youngest and hippest acts. That being said, the Grammys are losing credibility even in the eyes of the industry. The weekend had the biggest record of the year and was given ZERO NOMINATIONS! Do you think if he score zero nominations, Celine was going to get any??

 

She has Grammys for top General Field Categories (Record and Album of the Year) which is hard feat to accomplish. Perhaps someday she'll get in traditional pop when she goes that route.

 

I don't even watch the Grammys anymore as they are not reflective of what I think should be nominated. There's stuff going on .....

 

She was nominated for Traditional Pop Vocal back in '99 or '00 with Frank Sinatra.

 

And, it appears the Weeknd was shut out for political reasons and business reasons. I doubt that would ever happen with Celine. Ageism or sexism, maybe, but not for other reasons. So, yes, I still would have been surprised if she had gotten some recognition if she had made a bigger splash when promoting Courage.

 

But, like, I can't imagine her next record topping this. But yes, that's pessimistic. The best is yet to come!

[comingback]

 

 

This was her last great shot I feel.

 

 

She was nominated for Traditional Pop Vocal back in '99 or '00 with Frank Sinatra.

 

And, it appears the Weeknd was shut out for political reasons and business reasons. I doubt that would ever happen with Celine. Ageism or sexism, maybe, but not for other reasons. So, yes, I still would have been surprised if she had gotten some recognition if she had made a bigger splash when promoting Courage.

 

But, like, I can't imagine her next record topping this. But yes, that's pessimistic. The best is yet to come!

 

If we are lucky, we will get a Christmas album, Duet album or another exciting GH album in 2035. Let's stay real here, she is not 20 or 30 anymore and the state of the music industry is bad right now. Yes, she had the chance with Courage, but her management sucks and she don't have the ambition anymore. But I hope she will surprise us in the future.

[PuraVida]

If we are lucky, we will get a Christmas album, Duet album or another exciting GH album in 2035. Let's stay real here, she is not 20 or 30 anymore and the state of the music industry is bad right now. Yes, she had the chance with Courage, but her management sucks and she don't have the ambition anymore. But I hope she will surprise us in the future.

 

I think bad management is more important than bad management. Beck is 50 years old, and he was nominated against Celine in 1997. And he's still going and earning nominations.

[SlovakClark]

I don't think she will ever get nominated again other than a legacy award. Same to Madonna, Mariah etc. Ageism in the industry is real. Cher was lucky she released her Believe when the world was still kind to every age.

 

Makes me wonder if there would be any difference if Celine tried harder. Because look at Madonna, or Kylie Minogue now, they try doing promos, videos etc and yet nobody cares what they've released. But at least they make their fans happy:)

[DionFanAlways]

I don't think she will ever get nominated again other than a legacy award. Same to Madonna, Mariah etc. Ageism in the industry is real. Cher was lucky she released her Believe when the world was still kind to every age.

 

Makes me wonder if there would be any difference if Celine tried harder. Because look at Madonna, or Kylie Minogue now, they try doing promos, videos etc and yet nobody cares what they've released. But at least they make their fans happy:)

This! It wouldn't. Women are put out to pasture to lazily graze on the green grass once we hit the half century mark. Yes, she is still kicking and putting it out but she doesn't get the spin.

[couldawouldashoulda]

When was the last time Barbra Streisand had a commercial hit? Maybe the 1980s with "A Woman In Love" I can't think of any Streisand song that became popular on the radio or has won a Grammy since her Broadway album in 1986 - 34 years ago. However, she does at least get a lot of nominations for "Traditional Pop Vocal Album" - a far cry from "Album of the Year."

 

I know that, to be considered for an award, you have to be presented by your studio/label for consideration. The way we know Sony treats Celine, they may not even put her albums forth to the Grammy Nominating committee to consider. Or, if they do, it's under Album of the Year instead of Traditional Pop Vocal Album. You never know what's going on behind the scenes.

 

Just for informational purposes, here is what's on the Grammys official website FAQ's

 

 

 

 

The Recording Academy accepts entries online from Professional and Voting Members, as well as registered media companies. Members are permitted to submit their own eligible recordings as well as the recordings of their peers for consideration.

 

 

How do media companies submit product for GRAMMY consideration?

 

 

Record labels, distribution companies and management firms qualify as media companies. Media companies must register with the Recording Academy every year to submit/enter recordings. Once your media company registration has been confirmed, the Awards department will send the media company’s designated administrator detailed submission instructions.

For the 63rd award season, media companies must register between June 1-July 24, 2020, in order to submit recordings.

Recordings for GRAMMY consideration can be submitted through the Online Entry Process (OEP).

If you're having trouble with your submission, you can contact the Awards Department. They're here to help.

 

 

How do members submit product for GRAMMY consideration?

 

 

If you're a Recording Academy member, you can submit recordings for consideration online by logging into your member account. During the entry period, a link to submit for the 63rd Annual GRAMMY Awards will appear on your member dashboard when you log in. Click on it and you'll get helpful instructions detailing how to complete your submission and where to send any physical product, if required.

Again, our Awards Department is here to assist you if you encounter any problems with your submission. Just email awards@grammy.com and one of our helpful team members will get right back to you.

[PuraVida]

When was the last time Barbra Streisand had a commercial hit? Maybe the 1980s with "A Woman In Love" I can't think of any Streisand song that became popular on the radio or has won a Grammy since her Broadway album in 1986 - 34 years ago. However, she does at least get a lot of nominations for "Traditional Pop Vocal Album" - a far cry from "Album of the Year."

 

 

Winning, no, but Barbra has been nominated numerous times in the past 20 years. She has proven that it’s not impossible to be nominated for your work as an older female. Almost every album of hers gets nominated for best traditional pop album.

 

And actually, she had commercial hits in the 90s. Tell Him is the obvious first thing that should come to mind, #5 on the AC charts, but also I Finally Found Someone was a top 10 billboard hit in 1996. Hence, why Celine was ever in a position to sing it in the first place.

 

Also, Babs has done very well on the dance charts in the past 2 decades.

Edited November 28, 2020 at 06:34 AM by PuraVida

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So the second-lowest streaming total for a #1 album is nearly 4 million more than Celine got on Courage. Ufff. The streaming gods weren't with Celine last year.

 

But hey these legacy acts rely on physical sales still!

[PuraVida]

Wow, this video from paparazzi of her and Pepe in Paris has over 2 million views. Geez.