"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Xpresso]

"Why are you crying that Celine is retiring? She gave you decades of music! Can't you just stop being desperate and get a life!"

 

"Find something else to do!", says the person with nearly 7,000 posts on a fan forum.

Look, I'm a fan and I'm as happy as you when she gives us something new, but there's no need to keep demanding if she doesn't. It's not like she hasn't given us much in her career.

[Xpresso]

YES!!! I constatnly need to hear from mom Celine!!! :D

I can see that!

[PuraVida]

Look, I'm a fan and I'm as happy as you when she gives us something new, but there's no need to keep demanding if she doesn't. It's not like she hasn't given us much in her career.

 

Like I said, you'll be quite happy when she retires. When no one will have to place demands on her anymore, the poor overworked mommy.

[couldawouldashoulda]

Are you guys babies who constantly need to hear from mom Celine? What's the big problem if she's not constantly on social media? There's enough Celine material out there if you are in need. She toured for 6 months (until Feb/March) and she will be back. In the meantime, find something else to do.

 

Preach! It's like people can't go a few months without hearing from Celine. It's a good thing these babies weren't around during 2000-2002 when she completely cut herself off from show business and had Rene Charles. What would they have done?! I seem to remember getting through those 2 years just fine by, oh....living my life.

Edited October 15, 2020 at 06:41 PM by couldawouldashoulda

[Xpresso]

Like I said, you'll be quite happy when she retires. When no one will have to place demands on her anymore, the poor overworked mommy.

I'm happy if she gives us something new, and I'm happy if she doesn't. I can survive without begging for more. When she's ready, I'll be here. So no, I don't need her to retire to be happy. If she feels that she needs a break, she knows better than you do what she actually needs.

[ryba]

This discussion is really pointless, because - and as was said a million times before - she doesn’t have to lift a finger. It’s her team that should be willing to keep fans around and interested, and give us footage and materials that are filmed, edited and hidden for no reason. Edited October 15, 2020 at 06:57 PM by ryba

[PuraVida]

I'm happy if she gives us something new, and I'm happy if she doesn't. I can survive without begging for more. When she's ready, I'll be here. So no, I don't need her to retire to be happy. If she feels that she needs a break, she knows better than you do what she actually needs.

 

She's free to refuse. And we're free to ask. Simple as that.

 

And funny how you characterize people saying, as they have been saying for many years and long before COVID, that Celine has a crappy team and management as grovelling beggars as if they were yelling at her from the gates of her Quebec home. Infantilizing and insulting, to put it just one way.

[Xpresso]

She's free to refuse. And we're free to ask. Simple as that.

 

And funny how you characterize people saying, as they have been saying for many years and long before COVID, that Celine has a crappy team and management as grovelling beggars as if they were yelling at her from the gates of her Quebec home. Infantilizing and insulting, to put it just one way.

You were not asking her, you were demanding. Very different!

And yes, some were practically yelling at her (from the gates of her home LOL or behind their keyboards) for not doing enough on social media. Now that is infantilizing and insulting for a living legend.

[jpatdeleon09]

Let her bond with her kids.

[PuraVida]

Let her bond with her kids.

 

Breaking News: Celine Dion fans arrested in attempt to kidnap Celine Dion and force her away from her kids in an undisclosed recording studio location...

Edited October 16, 2020 at 05:51 AM by PuraVida

[PuraVida]

You were not asking her, you were demanding. Very different!

And yes, some were practically yelling at her (from the gates of her home LOL or behind their keyboards) for not doing enough on social media. Now that is infantilizing and insulting for a living legend.

 

Firstly, no I wasn't. Secondly, it doesn't matter. I'll put it another way: We are also free to demand. And she is free to refuse, and moreover free to do so by yelling in our faces. Then again, that would never happen because most people are placing most demands are on her team, remember? Not her. That's who runs all of her accounts anyway.

 

Celine is a living legend. Doesn't mean people can't have opinions regarding her actions. If you have opinions about their opinions, well, go ahead and share them like you are doing. But don't try to belittle anyone.

 

"Practically yelling".... yeah the word practically is jumping through a lot of hoops for you there. Typing something on the internet is not by definition demanding. I'm not tagging any of her social media accounts in anything I say. Nor starting a petition or calling up her offices. Or, confronting her in public. Some have suggested those tactics before with regards to certain things in the past. But I've not seen anyone do that with respect to Covid times, yet.

 

And even if they did, again, Celine has the right to refuse. But don't ask and you'll never receive. And if you can't understand why some fans want to see more of her, then there's really only so much to tell you.

Edited October 16, 2020 at 05:57 AM by PuraVida

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

Breaking News: Celine Dion fans arrested in attempt to kidnap Celine Dion and force her away from her kids in an undisclosed recording studio location...

 

Why not lol

[Xpresso]

When you call on me, When you reach for me

I get wings to fly, I feel that I'm alive...

[PuraVida]

[ordinary fan]

Hey I have a question. I came across the french wikipedia page about the album courage and there it says that 'Nobody's watching' was also released as a promotional single. But there is no date or specific information about it. And also nothing on the english wikipedia page.

Do you guys know about this?

 

[LeChauffeur100]

Is it true that they kept the audience here until 1am or 3am when they were recording this? I remember hearing something like that. She did some interviews or other TV recordings on the same stage beforehand? I still find that so strange.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac4w4kHx7ho

Yes. It was sung during the taping of the Sans Attendre TV Special back in 2012, which was recorded from 4pm from one day to 4am of the next. I imagine it was very tiring for the audience but the production gave away some pizza, discount tickets for Schwartz's restaurant and since the Star Academie contestants were there, they sang for the audience during interludes (as could be seen on Accéss Ilimité, a TV show that broadcasted the making of of it).

[PuraVida]

Yes. It was sung during the taping of the Sans Attendre TV Special back in 2012, which was recorded from 4pm from one day to 4am of the next. I imagine it was very tiring for the audience but the production gave away some pizza, discount tickets for Schwartz's restaurant and since the Star Academie contestants were there, they sang for the audience during interludes (as could be seen on Accéss Ilimité, a TV show that broadcasted the making of of it).

 

So Celine is literally recording the performance at 3 or 4am? How is that legal? It would explain why she looks so tired in the clip. And how the hell did the audience not fall asleep lol.

[joaofilho]

After Mariah attacked Celine, now Lara Fabian accuses her of sabotaging her career in the United States.

I don't know where to put this on the forum. I put it here, did you read the report of the new documentariod and Lara Fabian?

[PuraVida]

After Mariah attacked Celine, now Lara Fabian accuses her of sabotaging her career in the United States.

I don't know where to put this on the forum. I put it here, did you read the report of the new documentariod and Lara Fabian?

 

I saw an interview on TV she did about the documentary thing. But where does she mention Celine?

[joaofilho]

I saw an interview on TV she did about the documentary thing. But where does she mention Celine?

https://www.purepeople.com/article/lara-fabian-volontairement-coulee-au-profit-de-celine-dion-de-troublantes-accusations_a408029/1

[joaofilho]

I saw an interview on TV she did about the documentary thing. But where does she mention Celine?

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/10/13/les-drames-de-lara-fabian

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

"Why are you crying that Celine is retiring? She gave you decades of music! Can't you just stop being desperate and get a life!"

 

"Find something else to do!", says the person with nearly 7,000 posts on a fan forum.

 

7000 posts in 13 years is really not that many. An average of 540 posts a year. That’s very easy. Especially in a Celine release year.

[joaofilho]

https://www.closermag.fr/people/lara-fabian-victime-d-une-fausse-couche-la-bouleversante-revelation-de-la-chanteuse-1182833

[CelinesDIVO5]

After Mariah attacked Celine, now Lara Fabian accuses her of sabotaging her career in the United States.

I don't know where to put this on the forum. I put it here, did you read the report of the new documentariod and Lara Fabian?

 

I was more under the impression that Sony messed that up for her because she was too similar to Celine. So they released a dance single as her first in the US to try and give her a more youthful and marketable image. They didn’t think the world needed “another Celine.”

 

Also, around 1999, 2000 is when the music industry really started to change. Where the voice was no longer the only thing you needed to make it. It became very image driven. Lara claims she was told to get thinner as well for her US debut. Which she did. Then they released “I Will Love Again,” which had a decent run as far as debut singles go. But there was really no other song like that on her record. It was very ballad heavy, and the US market just wasn’t much interested in “Adagio” or “Love By Grace.” Her second English album, released in 2004 was much more in the wheelhouse for where music was at that time. For whatever reason the US release of “Wonderful Life” was canceled. And that album probably would have given her a little more success State side.

Edited October 16, 2020 at 02:41 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[PuraVida]

7000 posts in 13 years is really not that many. An average of 540 posts a year. That's very easy. Especially in a Celine release year.

 

And yet almost every other active member nowadays I've seen has fewer posts than 7000 and a much smaller average annual post rate. In any case, the point remains: a relatively very active user telling other users to "get a life" is very ironic.

[pat200]

It was well known at that time around 2000 that Rene and team Celine were furious Sony was promoting Lara as the new Celine.

Listen, as much as Celine appears to be a sweetheart, and she is, but you have to be rough and nasty sometimes to last this long in the industry she is in.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

And yet almost every other active member nowadays I've seen has fewer posts than 7000 and a much smaller average annual post rate. In any case, the point remains: a relatively very active user telling other users to "get a life" is very ironic.

 

You also have to factor in that between 2005-2010, this forum had MANY more active members before you joined, and there was MUCH more dialogue. Most of the membership here had migrated from another very active forum at the time. Vegas was still a huge topic then, “ONCP” collection (her first French Greatest Hits) was released, the “Taking Chances/D’Elles” era between 2007-2010 with the album, the tour and TTEOTW. Then 2011 brought a new Vegas show, an Oprah presented TV special, then 2012 brought “Sans Attendre.” There was just more discussion and more members.

 

Around 2011 was around the time that membership started dwindling because there were other members who were just intolerable. We lost a lot of great forum contributors between 2011 and 2014. Anyway, my point is that you can’t cite someone’s activity on the forum as a means of telling them their opinion or point has less or no validity without factoring in what I said above. That’s all.

Edited October 16, 2020 at 04:10 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[Xpresso]

And yet almost every other active member nowadays I've seen has fewer posts than 7000 and a much smaller average annual post rate. In any case, the point remains: a relatively very active user telling other users to "get a life" is very ironic.

Obviously you don't want to let it go. My comment about getting a life is when Celine doesn't post on social media or offer a performance from home as you want her to do. To make sure you understand, that means, if Celine doesn't give you what you want, it's better to find something else to do instead of telling her what she should be doing. (And yes, you can still visit the forum in the meantime. )

[guigafs15]

 

 

You also have to factor in that between 2005-2010, this forum had MANY more active members before you joined, and there was MUCH more dialogue. Most of the membership here had migrated from another very active forum at the time. Vegas was still a huge topic then, “ONCP” collection (her first French Greatest Hits) was released, the “Taking Chances/D’Elles” era between 2007-2010 with the album, the tour and TTEOTW. Then 2011 brought a new Vegas show, an Oprah presented TV special, then 2012 brought “Sans Attendre.” There was just more discussion and more members.

 

Around 2011 was around the time that membership started dwindling because there were other members who were just intolerable. We lost a lot of great forum contributors between 2011 and 2014. Anyway, my point is that you can’t cite someone’s activity on the forum as a means of telling them their opinion or point has less or no validity without factoring in what I said above. That’s all.

 

I don't think any of that make any difference. With or without good reasons to be in this forum, that fact is 7000 posts means you spend a good amount of time in here, so one can't tell someone to "get a life" just to shut up their opinions.

 

I guess that's his point.

[Xpresso]

I don't think any of that make any difference. With or without good reasons to be in this forum, that fact is 7000 posts means you spend a good amount of time in here, so one can't tell someone to "get a life" just to shut up their opinions.

 

I guess that's his point.

My point is in my post just above yours.