"Courage" album - Official Topic

[couldawouldashoulda]

So much stuff on this forum gets “made up” and then the users are angry when what they made up doesn’t come true.

[DionFanAlways]

That was something we made up because of all the retweets and likes between celine and Netflix at that time.

Yes, sad but true.

[Kristinaz]

They should make a mega Netflix documentary about the Courage era and everything Céline has done since 2017.

 

It should include studio sessions, full shows from the 2017 and 2018 summer tours (with behind-the-scenes footage), full show from the final year in Vegas (with behind-the-scenes footage), planning the world tour, Céline doing ballet, full show and preparations of BST Hyde Park, rehearsals for the world tour in Quebec and of course full show and behind-the-scenes of the Courage World Tour.

 

I’m sure they’ve got all the necessary footage.

 

We know they have the 2016/2017/2018 mini tours filmed. With 2017 we saw a few shows were taped and were slated as being used for promo and archive purposes(EUS was shown on a tv program if I'm not wrong). The 2016 tour had to have been filmed we saw plenty of that in the doc oh god don't ask me to remember the name my brain is gone nowadays but it was a French program and we saw it in the 2016 retrospective on her youtube page. The 2018 tour was filmed it aired on tv and we know they filmed 4 nights of the final vegas show and we know there is filler footage through the years yet they so far have done nothing with it. I HONESTLY don't know what is the point of doing all that filming for what? For it to sit in some storage of years and years. I mean we almost didn't even get the TTEOW doc until Rene decided it may be good to use the personal footage and turn it into a documentary. THIS is where I miss Rene. He was the one that pushed for all these shows to be filmed and released. I'm pretty sure he was also the one that pushed for USF to be filmed and released as well. And if they filmed and Celine didn't like it he wasn't like ok well forget it no he went back and they filmed again. He didn't just give up. Take the Jonas Brothers. They were due to do a Vegas residency, then COVID 19 happened. My cousin works with Ticketmaster and she knew they had filmed their tour which had just ended but they had other plans for the footage but when they saw how sad their fans were they brought in a few people and within a few weeks had the footage up and available to stream on Amazon Prime and pleased their fans that way. My point is physical copies aren't needed for that footage to be released. The footage just needs to be released in some format. I know many people will argue yes but the general public won't care. Maybe but I'm not a diehard Jonas Brothers fan either but their promotion of their two documentaries made the films look so interesting that I went ahead and watched it. I don't criticize Celine almost ever and I try not to ask much from her as she has done more then enough all these years but after SO many years I really truly expected once Vegas was done we would get something even if it was just a documentary but alas no.

Edited June 7, 2020 at 02:24 AM by Kristinaz

[PuraVida]

So much stuff on this forum gets “made up” and then the users are angry when what they made up doesn’t come true.

 

Yes but to be fair I think there was some decent grounds for Netflix suspicion

[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

We know they have the 2016/2017/2018 mini tours filmed. With 2017 we saw a few shows were taped and were slated as being used for promo and archive purposes(EUS was shown on a tv program if I'm not wrong). The 2016 tour had to have been filmed we saw plenty of that in the doc oh god don't ask me to remember the name my brain is gone nowadays but it was a French program and we saw it in the 2016 retrospective on her youtube page. The 2018 tour was filmed it aired on tv and we know they filmed 4 nights of the final vegas show and we know there is filler footage through the years yet they so far have done nothing with it. I HONESTLY don't know what is the point of doing all that filming for what? For it to sit in some storage of years and years. I mean we almost didn't even get the TTEOW doc until Rene decided it may be good to use the personal footage and turn it into a documentary. THIS is where I miss Rene. He was the one that pushed for all these shows to be filmed and released. I'm pretty sure he was also the one that pushed for USF to be filmed and released as well. And if they filmed and Celine didn't like it he wasn't like ok well forget it no he went back and they filmed again. He didn't just give up. Take the Jonas Brothers. They were due to do a Vegas residency, then COVID 19 happened. My cousin works with Ticketmaster and she knew they had filmed their tour which had just ended but they had other plans for the footage but when they saw how sad their fans were they brought in a few people and within a few weeks had the footage up and available to stream on Amazon Prime and pleased their fans that way. My point is physical copies aren't needed for that footage to be released. The footage just needs to be released in some format. I know many people will argue yes but the general public won't care. Maybe but I'm not a diehard Jonas Brothers fan either but their promotion of their two documentaries made the films look so interesting that I went ahead and watched it. I don't criticize Celine almost ever and I try not to ask much from her as she has done more then enough all these years but after SO many years I really truly expected once Vegas was done we would get something even if it was just a documentary but alas no.

 

I’m going to sound like a broken record, but again, Celine is an entertainer, NOT an artist. I know many on here disagree with me, and in my opinion, are a bit in denial of the fact, but it is what it is. Rene’s passing has proven that time and time again. Celine is one hell of an entertainer. She has amazing talent, but that’s where it ends. C’est la vie.

[Shaun]

So it was a year ago today we first heard "Flying On My Own" as Celine premiered it during her show in Las Vegas. I remember the excitement at the time and us all having such high hopes for the song and the album. A year later the song is likely yet another forgotten album track never to be performed again.

 

I'm grateful I got the experience the song and the atmosphere when she performed it at Hyde Park last summer.

[Del]

So it was a year ago today we first heard "Flying On My Own" as Celine premiered it during her show in Las Vegas. I remember the excitement at the time and us all having such high hopes for the song and the album. A year later the song is likely yet another forgotten album track never to be performed again.

 

I'm grateful I got the experience the song and the atmosphere when she performed it at Hyde Park last summer.

Same for me Shaun. I'm happy I got to see it in Quebec before she dropped it from the setlist.

 

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[Xpresso]

I'm going to sound like a broken record, but again, Celine is an entertainer, NOT an artist. I know many on here disagree with me, and in my opinion, are a bit in denial of the fact, but it is what it is. Rene's passing has proven that time and time again. Celine is one hell of an entertainer. She has amazing talent, but that's where it ends. C'est la vie.

 

"An artist is also an actor, musician, dancer, or other performer." - Cambridge Dictionary

 

So we've got an artist!

Edited June 7, 2020 at 01:22 PM by Xpresso

[ryba]

"An artist is also an actor, musician, dancer, or other performer." - Cambridge Dictionary

 

So we've got an artist!

[Ajax]

"An artist is also an actor, musician, dancer, or other performer." - Cambridge Dictionary

 

So we've got an artist!

 

In the absurdity of this forum we get to have one of the top 3. Let s say to all the performers out there that they are not artist from now on 😂 ❤️

[jpatdeleon09]

Céline is an artist.

[DionFanAlways]

Same for me Shaun. I'm happy I got to see it in Quebec before she dropped it from the setlist.

 

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Oh now you're just showing off! :P :P

[PuraVida]

I think the artist vs. entertainer debate is interesting. Yes, she can't write songs...so she is technically a vocalist. She does not create songs as such. Can you be an artist without being a creator? Does pop music even allow for artists? If so, who? Is it that you need to control at least one other aspect i.e. costumes or visuals?

 

A New Day was a very artistic undertaking, but I have no idea how much creative input she had into that show. I found her intimate dancing version of Le Ballet with Pepe artistic (lol)...trying to think of other moments like that which jump out.

[jpatdeleon09]

I think the artist vs. entertainer debate is interesting. Yes, she can't write songs...so she is technically a vocalist. She does not create songs as such. Can you be an artist without being a creator? Does pop music even allow for artists? If so, who? Is it that you need to control at least one other aspect i.e. costumes or visuals?

 

A New Day was a very artistic undertaking, but I have no idea how much creative input she had into that show. I found her intimate dancing version of Le Ballet with Pepe artistic (lol)...trying to think of other moments like that which jump out.

 

She can't write songs? But she wrote some for other singers... right?

[Xpresso]

FYI - She wrote some songs in French. There is a clip of her telling Marc Dupré what she wanted him to change in his interpretation. It was a nice surprise to actually see that! Edited June 7, 2020 at 03:07 PM by Xpresso

[PuraVida]

My understanding is that she wrote literally 1 song in French for Marc Dupre (Entre Deux Mondes?), and co-wrote "Don't Save It All for Christmas Day" with two other writers. So 1.5 if we're rounding up?

 

So do we count her as a songwriter and thus call her an artist? Curious was SuperLove thinks

[CelinesDIVO5]

My understanding is that she wrote literally 1 song in French for Marc Dupre (Entre Deux Mondes?), and co-wrote "Don't Save It All for Christmas Day" with two other writers. So 1.5 if we're rounding up?

 

So do we count her as a songwriter and thus call her an artist? Curious was SuperLove thinks

 

She also wrote “Tous pres du bonheur.”

[jpatdeleon09]

My understanding is that she wrote literally 1 song in French for Marc Dupre (Entre Deux Mondes?), and co-wrote "Don't Save It All for Christmas Day" with two other writers. So 1.5 if we're rounding up?

 

So do we count her as a songwriter and thus call her an artist? Curious was SuperLove thinks

 

I think so.. since she wrote a song or songs. I think there's more that we didn't know.

 

Can we count a person who only sang 1 song and it became a hit to be a singer? Of course!

[jpatdeleon09]

She also wrote "Tous pres du bonheur."

 

Also, she was a co writer of her first song, right?

Edited June 7, 2020 at 03:25 PM by jpatdeleon09

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

She was a co writer of her first song, right?

 

I believe she has a credit on CNQR.

[Dancing_Queen]

Don't forget 'Come to me', where she co-wrote music & lyrics. Underrated gem imo 😍

[Ajax]

When she moves 20 or 50 000 people in the room she creates things whatever if the song is written by somebody else it as nothing to do with it. In 3 min she s able to captivate an audience and millions of people want to witness that. Same as being an actor they do prononce words written by others.

At the end of the day that’s not me or whoever decision. That s called a definition. what we can only elaborate is if she is a shitty artist according do your standard or not.

[PuraVida]

Don't forget 'Come to me', where she co-wrote music & lyrics. Underrated gem imo

https://youtu.be/ZRsFGBKI6zw

 

Where did you get that information?

[comingback]

+ the wedding song for her stepdaughter (don't know the name of the song)

+ some others unreleased songs ..

drop by drop etc.

+ OK JJG wrote EUS, but she had the idea for the song

[Céline RO]

+ the wedding song for her stepdaughter (don't know the name of the song)

+ some others unreleased songs ..

drop by drop etc.

+ OK JJG wrote EUS, but she had the idea for the song

 

The wedding song for Anne-Marie is basically “Tout près du bonheur” but with some English lyrics.

[weasley123]

 

 

The wedding song for Anne-Marie is basically “Tout près du bonheur” but with some English lyrics.

 

It’s called “I’m Gonna Love You Forever”. Celine wrote and sang it as wedding gift for Anne-Marie. Later Celine and Marc Dupre record it and retitled “Tout près du bonheur.” It’s one of my favorite Celine’s rare song. I wish she did a studio version of this song, I mean the English one, not the one she did with Marc Dupre.

 

Here’s the lyric as I remember:

 

When I met you

You were just a little girl, my baby,

More than just a stranger in my eyes

But then oh how quickly you grew up before me

Girl, how you became part of my life

And now as I carry life deep within me

So uncertain of a life can do

I need and pray to God for just one wish

That our child be just like you

 

And I, I’m gonna love you forever

Always together

You’ll never be far away from my heart

 

You can see the video here:

https://youtu.be/HmqLVQQkthU

Edited June 7, 2020 at 04:42 PM by weasley123

[Dancing_Queen]

 

 

Where did you get that information?

 

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/11/05/une-chanson-de-celine-dion-sur-lalbum-de-kevin-bazinet

[Kristinaz]

I'm going to sound like a broken record, but again, Celine is an entertainer, NOT an artist. I know many on here disagree with me, and in my opinion, are a bit in denial of the fact, but it is what it is. Rene's passing has proven that time and time again. Celine is one hell of an entertainer. She has amazing talent, but that's where it ends. C'est la vie.

Yeah and I love her and am proud to be her fan and will continue to support her no matter what, but in all honesty all she needs is a good team that will do for her what Rene did (in terms of the business side of things) and then we can have a bit of everything.

[manolo19]

Celine can be an artist if allowed.. for me the improvisations she makes here on that song 'lilly of the lake' which is so boring if you listen to the original but look where Celine bring it by just fooling around, for that video alone I think she has much more to offer as an artist than you'd think , she just miss the confidence

 

Edited June 7, 2020 at 08:27 PM by manolo19

[manolo19]

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