"Courage" album - Official Topic

[PuraVida]

Someone asked about the Spector recordings? When? What did she say?

 

In print, 2013, pretty sure this is the original publication but in any case the interview is reproduced here.

 

https://www.macleans...er-of-values-2/

Q: Phil Spector once told Entertainment Weekly that he owned many of the recordings he did with you during your

sessions. He said he was going to release them one day.

A: It’s true. He does have the songs. He bought them. He owns them. I would prefer to [re-sing] them the way they should be sung because they were [recorded] in a very difficult environment. I don’t think the recordings as they are right now do justice to the songs, my voice, his work or the musicians who were there the night we recorded them. It was a hard session. I can’t believe you brought that up. I feel like I’m 105 years old because it feels so long ago.

Edited May 31, 2020 at 11:55 PM by PuraVida

[weasley123]

Maybe the scenery was not meant to represent mars, but rather hell. And she was supposed to represent the devil or a lost soul suffering in hell (would fit with the song, the way she was styled and with her make up). Maybe they wanted to shock on a big scale to draw attention, but it turned out too crazy and they didn't dare to release it.

 

Imagine if it's turn out to be true. Now that you mention this idea, the more curious I am. Imagine Celine Dion with her image as a gracious lady gives the world a wave of shock with a crazy satanic theme in her music video. :-D

[PuraVida]

Imagine if it's turn out to be true. Now that you mention this idea, the more curious I am. Imagine Celine Dion with her image as a gracious lady gives the world a wave of shock with a crazy satanic theme in her music video. :-D

 

I would be very surprised, seeing as then theme of the other music videos was so muted and black-and-white. Which to me was too much of a contrast between the popping red and flames...and the glamour/misfit trucking theme they teased us with in her promotional videos.

[PuraVida]

Can't see anywhere that people have mentioned Celine's post on Instagram today. Glad she is using her platform, hope it gets more attention.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CA3UA6KDMSm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[manolo19]

Does anyone remember the initial post from the Guy who tweeted about the mars setup.

 

From what I remembrer he was called last minute overnight or something like that to make the mars setup which Leads to think it was done in a rush and because it has become very usual for her team to rush things instead of truly developping a creative concept with artistic direction with depth and layers the result is a non-existent video because she is not surrounded by the right people ..

 

How I wish she would give her credit card to some talented cinematographer and innovative director to make her shine through her new amazing songs supported by stunning visuals or storytelling. It's up to her in the end to say you know what , I believe in my new music and I'm gonna make things happen so that people can connect with the message in thoses songs .

 

She doesnt have to be present or lift a finger .. just contract an agency with a superstar director like Mike Toia , sebastian linda , and editors and give them the budget of what you wear for a week and some amazing videos could be created! sigh..

[ryba]

Does anyone remember the initial post from the Guy who tweeted about the mars setup.

 

From what I remembrer he was called last minute overnight or something like that to make the mars setup which Leads to think it was done in a rush and because it has become very usual for her team to rush things instead of truly developping a creative concept with artistic direction with depth and layers the result is a non-existent video because she is not surrounded by the right people ..

 

How I wish she would give her credit card to some talented cinematographer and innovative director to make her shine through her new amazing songs supported by stunning visuals or storytelling. It's up to her in the end to say you know what , I believe in my new music and I'm gonna make things happen so that people can connect with the message in thoses songs .

 

She doesnt have to be present or lift a finger .. just contract an agency with a superstar director like Mike Toia , sebastian linda , and editors and give them the budget of what you wear for a week and some amazing videos could be created! sigh..

exactly! And regarding your rushing point: probably the video was shot in such a rush that the dancers didn’t have the time to prepare a dance choreography, and this is why the concept was about dancers who don’t dance

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

Can't see anywhere that people have mentioned Celine's post on Instagram today. Glad she is using her platform, hope it gets more attention.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CA3UA6KDMSm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

 

awww that is such a BEAUTIFUL post, to me it was VERY HEARTFELT & it explains the sentiments that i am sure almost everybody in the world is feeling these days...

 

we love you celine, youre amazing!!! 💗😍😉😊

[Xpresso]

awww that is such a BEAUTIFUL post, to me it was VERY HEARTFELT & it explains the sentiments that i am sure almost everybody in the world is feeling these days...

 

we love you celine, youre amazing!!!

She's a good example to follow, right?

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

She's a good example to follow, right?

 

YES!!! 💯💯💯 that she is! she shines alot of KINDNESS & COMPASSION, which is something this whole world needs, ESPECIALLY THESE DAYS what with all the crimes, murders, rape, kidnappings, etc going on!!!

 

it is downright heartbreaking to see the horrible to see & hear all of these awful things happening, & i am grateful for celebs like celine who can use their voice to spread the message of kindness & compassion this world needs more than ever! 💗💗💗

 

[browseceline]

Does anyone remember the initial post from the Guy who tweeted about the mars setup.

 

From what I remembrer he was called last minute overnight or something like that to make the mars setup which Leads to think it was done in a rush and because it has become very usual for her team to rush things instead of truly developping a creative concept with artistic direction with depth and layers the result is a non-existent video because she is not surrounded by the right people ..

 

How I wish she would give her credit card to some talented cinematographer and innovative director to make her shine through her new amazing songs supported by stunning visuals or storytelling. It's up to her in the end to say you know what , I believe in my new music and I'm gonna make things happen so that people can connect with the message in thoses songs .

 

She doesnt have to be present or lift a finger .. just contract an agency with a superstar director like Mike Toia , sebastian linda , and editors and give them the budget of what you wear for a week and some amazing videos could be created! sigh..

Yes! Hire a Quentin Tarantino, James Cameron, Peter Jackson or Steven Spielberg to really come up with a major videoclip!

 

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[browseceline]

Btw it is something to consider for future projects because right now we all are facing a war against a virus and esspecially in America it is getting worse and worse with the recent denonstrations against racism and Trump his incompetent response to them.

 

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[couldawouldashoulda]

Yes! Hire a Quentin Tarantino, James Cameron, Peter Jackson or Steven Spielberg to really come up with a major videoclip!

 

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You really think those artists would be interested in directing a videoclip for Celine??!!!

[ryba]

 

 

You really think those artists would be interested in directing a videoclip for Celine??!!!

haha I don’t think they could even be bothered. Moreover, who would pay for that? Certainly not Sony, judging by her recent few and low budget videos. Edited June 2, 2020 at 12:37 PM by ryba

[couldawouldashoulda]

haha I don’t think they could even be bothered. Moreover, who would pay for that? Certainly not Sony, judging by her recent few and low budget videos.

 

Right?! Cameron didn’t even direct her MHWGO video and it was the song from his own movie!

[smw]

There’s a crop of fabulous newer directors who adore Celine & would create fantastic music videos for her. Xavier Dolan, for instance, worships her — and he directed Adele’s Hello music video.

 

I would loooooove for Celine to work with him. If not for the Courage album, then for her next French album.

[manolo19]

There’s a crop of fabulous newer directors who adore Celine & would create fantastic music videos for her. Xavier Dolan, for instance, worships her — and he directed Adele’s Hello music video.

 

I would loooooove for Celine to work with him. If not for the Courage album, then for her next French album.

 

Yes that is a must , two of the biggest artistic exportations from Montreal joining forces , it's gotta happen one day .

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

ok i know this is 7 months too late (because i was not yet a member of the forum when this album came out)... but here are my favorites from the "courage" album, from my absolute faves to the songs that are "ok" to me: 😍

 

1. "the hard way" - hands down the BEST song of this album!

 

2. "lying down" - 2nd best song of this album!

 

3. "heart of glass" - also a GREAT song & also should have been a single!

 

4. "baby" - ok i think sone of you might notice that i like ALL of the sia-written songs...

 

(yes i am a HUGE FAN of sia, i ADORE many of her songs including "titanium", "she wolf", "cheap thrills", "the greatest", "elastic heart", "chandelier", etc, & i think her collabs with david guetta are the best! but anyway...)

 

5. "flying on my own" - upbeat song, fun to dance to

 

6. "courage" - amazing heartfelt song

 

7. "imperfection" - good 'modern' song

 

8. "boundaries" - very good song

 

9. "the chase" - very good song, such a 'feel-good-laying-on-a-beach' kinda song to me!

 

10. "look at us now" - fun & upbeat song

 

11. "nobodys watching" - another fun upbeat song

 

12. "soul" - took me a few times to warm up to this song i will admit (the way she was singing was a bit "off" to me,) but i do like it better nowadays!

 

13. "change my mind" - pretty good song with a good beat

 

14. "say yes" - good song with a good message i think anyway

 

15. "perfect goodbye" - pretty song (& could care less about the word sh*t being in it, i mean come on this is 2020, there is MUCH WORSE cursing going on in majority of rap/hip hop songs nowadays! who cares)

 

these following songs are not really bad (as there are NO really bad songs on this album in my opinion thank god,) but to me these songs are 'ok' & not ones i listen to as often as the ones i mentioned already:

 

16. "lovers never die" - ok song, kinda blah to me sorry

 

17. "for the lover that i lost" - ok song, but the way she sings in this song sounds "gargled" to me sorry lol

 

18. "falling in love again" - ok song

 

19. "best of all" - ok song

 

20. "how did you get here" - ok song

 

21. "i will be stronger" - ok song

 

there ya go... overall i do think "courage" is still one of her best albums in years! 💗😍🎤

Edited June 3, 2020 at 09:47 PM by thatstheteacherinmehbaby

[weasley123]

ok i know this is 7 months too late (because i was not yet a member of the forum when this album came out)... but here are my favorites from the "courage" album, from my absolute faves to the songs that are "ok" to me: ��

 

1. "the hard way" - hands down the BEST song of this album!

 

2. "lying down" - 2nd best song of this album!

 

3. "heart of glass" - also a GREAT song & also should have been a single!

 

4. "baby" - ok i think sone of you might notice that i like ALL of the sia-written songs...

 

(yes i am a HUGE FAN of sia, i ADORE many of her songs including "titanium", "she wolf", "cheap thrills", "the greatest", "elastic heart", "chandelier", etc, & i think her collabs with david guetta are the best! but anyway...)

 

5. "flying on my own" - upbeat song, fun to dance to

 

6. "courage" - amazing heartfelt song

 

7. "imperfection" - good 'modern' song

 

8. "boundaries" - very good song

 

9. "the chase" - very good song, such a 'feel-good-laying-on-a-beach' kinda song to me!

 

10. "look at us now" - fun & upbeat song

 

11. "nobodys watching" - another fun upbeat song

 

12. "soul" - took me a few times to warm up to this song i will admit (the way she was singing was a bit "off" to me,) but i do like it better nowadays!

 

13. "change my mind" - pretty good song with a good beat

 

14. "say yes" - good song with a good message i think anyway

 

15. "perfect goodbye" - pretty song (& could care less about the word sh*t being in it, i mean come on this is 2020, there is MUCH WORSE cursing going on in majority of rap/hip hop songs nowadays! who cares)

 

these following songs are not really bad (as there are NO really bad songs on this album in my opinion thank god,) but to me these songs are 'ok' & not ones i listen to as often as the ones i mentioned already:

 

16. "lovers never die" - ok song, kinda blah to me sorry

 

17. "for the lover that i lost" - ok song, but the way she sings in this song sounds "gargled" to me sorry lol

 

18. "falling in love again" - ok song

 

19. "best of all" - ok song

 

20. "how did you get here" - ok song

 

21. "i will be stronger" - ok song

 

there ya go... overall i do think "courage" is still one of her best albums in years! ������

 

 

I agree with you about the top three because those are my favorite songs of the album too. The Hard Way is definitely the best produced song of the album, and it's such a shame they put it as bonus track in the deluxe version. The arrangement is brilliant, her vocal acrobatic, vocally explosive and belts are great, and the message is deep. I can simply imagine Celine sing this song live with huge choir behind her. Talkin about The Hard Way, I found this video on YouTube. Man, this guy is brilliant. Why can't her team make a cool video like this?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjknf07e8i8.

 

And yeah, Heart of Glass should have been a single too.

Edited June 4, 2020 at 02:51 AM by weasley123

[manolo19]

 

 

 

I agree with you about the top three because those are my favorite songs of the album too. The Hard Way is definitely the best produced song of the album, and it's such a shame they put it as bonus track in the deluxe version. The arrangement is brilliant, her vocal acrobatic, vocally explosive and belts are great, and the message is deep. I can simply imagine Celine sing this song live with huge choir behind her. Talkin about The Hard Way, I found this video on YouTube. Man, this guy is brilliant. Why can't her team make a cool video like this?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjknf07e8i8.

 

And yeah, Heart of Glass should have been a single too.

 

Awww thank you Weasley for your kind words , I made the video I'm thankful for you taking the time to watch it

[weasley123]

Awww thank you Weasley for your kind words , I made the video I'm thankful for you taking the time to watch it

 

That's you? I'm sorry I don't read this forum regularly. I just accidentally found your video on YouTube when I'm searching for The Hard Hay lyric. Man, you did it very well. I love how every visuals that you use really emphasize the strong and powerful message of the lyrics. A glimpse of choir visual you use at 2:31 is exactly the way I imagine the video would be. Very well done, man.

[Celine Fan 77]

Awww thank you Weasley for your kind words , I made the video I'm thankful for you taking the time to watch it

 

Man, I just watched the videos you did for Lying Down, Perfect Goodbye and For The Lover That I Lost. You are truly an artist, Celine should definitely hire you for her future videos!

[weasley123]

 

 

Man, I just watched the videos you did for Lying Down, Perfect Goodbye and For The Lover That I Lost. You are truly an artist, Celine should definitely hire you for her future videos!

 

But the problem is, her team doesn’t to make a good videos for her music. They just want to make bland music video which uninspiring and barely show something.

 

Courage *cough*

Inperfection *cough*

[Kyle_Jared]

She's got to try to keep this album alive for another year. Participating in some media this summer/fall would be a start. Good Morning America is doing a summer concerts series virtually; I'm sure TODAY is following suit. She should plug the new album; drop a new summer video (Baby, Heart of Glass, Lovers Never Die); something...SHe could do some remote interviews on Kelly Clarkson, Live with Regis.

 

Surely to God she's going to do something. If we can think of this--can't her team?

 

I guess she doesn't make Sony the money anymore as her streaming is s***. So they focus on the acts the make them the $$$.

Edited June 4, 2020 at 04:42 PM by Kyle_Jared

[Céline RO]

She's got to try to keep this album alive for another year. Participating in some media this summer/fall would be a start. Good Morning America is doing a summer concerts series virtually; I'm sure TODAY is following suit. She should plug the new album; drop a new summer video (Baby, Heart of Glass, Lovers Never Die); something...SHe could do some remote interviews on Kelly Clarkson, Live with Regis.

 

Surely to God she's going to do something. If we can think of this--can't her team?

 

I guess she doesn't make Sony the money anymore as her streaming is s***. So they focus on the acts the make them the $$$.

 

Hopefully by the time the tour begins she will be able to also do some non-virtual TV shows too.

[DionFanAlways]

The album is dead except for the fans and deep down we know that nothing else will happen. I mean she didn’t even represent it on tour why would she do anything on the morning shows.

#stillLovingCelinesCouragealbum

[Céline RO]

The album is dead except for the fans and deep down we know that nothing else will happen. I mean she didn't even represent it on tour why would she do anything on the morning shows.

#stillLovingCelinesCouragealbum

 

You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one

[SuperLove4Celine]

She's got to try to keep this album alive for another year. Participating in some media this summer/fall would be a start. Good Morning America is doing a summer concerts series virtually; I'm sure TODAY is following suit. She should plug the new album; drop a new summer video (Baby, Heart of Glass, Lovers Never Die); something...SHe could do some remote interviews on Kelly Clarkson, Live with Regis.

 

Surely to God she's going to do something. If we can think of this--can't her team?

 

I guess she doesn't make Sony the money anymore as her streaming is s***. So they focus on the acts the make them the $$$.

 

She doesn’t care. She never really has. It’s clear it was only about the money and contractual obligations for her, and not any supposed “artistry” and love she had for the album. People need to realize that.

[couldawouldashoulda]

She's got to try to keep this album alive for another year. Participating in some media this summer/fall would be a start. Good Morning America is doing a summer concerts series virtually; I'm sure TODAY is following suit. She should plug the new album; drop a new summer video (Baby, Heart of Glass, Lovers Never Die); something...SHe could do some remote interviews on Kelly Clarkson, Live with Regis.

 

Surely to God she's going to do something. If we can think of this--can't her team?

 

I guess she doesn't make Sony the money anymore as her streaming is s***. So they focus on the acts the make them the $$$.

 

Celine has been working her a$$ off for YEARS. Not to mention the personal tragedy of losing her husband, brother, and mom. Can’t she just take a break??????

[smw]

She's got to try to keep this album alive for another year. Participating in some media this summer/fall would be a start. Good Morning America is doing a summer concerts series virtually; I'm sure TODAY is following suit. She should plug the new album; drop a new summer video (Baby, Heart of Glass, Lovers Never Die); something...SHe could do some remote interviews on Kelly Clarkson, Live with Regis.

 

 

Yes! The remote interviews are such an easy thing to do — appearing on talk shows just by sitting in her very own living room. I truly hope she does another round of Courage promo. A lot of people out there would love this album if they knew it existed. It’d also be great promo for the tour... once the new dates are announced.

 

I also agree Celine deserves a break. This can be a bit down the road.

Edited June 4, 2020 at 06:18 PM by smw

[ryba]

I would say she should re-release it with second disc containing the other recorded songs. It would make more sense than releasing a new album, cause it would keep Courage alive and make people buy it again.