"Courage" album - Official Topic

[gafsa]

I still buy albums though, not only Celine's album. If the music is good, I bought the album. And to be honest, sometime the best track is not the single. I can't imagine if the artist only release singles, all we got will be commercial songs only, and it's not always a great songs.

[dj_a_rock]

Music albums do not sell anymore is a LAZY EXCUSE. Please say that to Adele, One Direction, Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Maroon 5, Pink, Ed Sheeran etc...

[Daysleeper]

Well traditionally, the singles are meant to promote the album and help to increase its sale. Without the album they sort of lose their main purpose. It seems nowadays that the consumers are the ones who decide which song will chart by streaming and buying separate tracks.

 

In my opinion, an artist goes to studio to create a piece of art. Not all the songs she/he records are meant to sell and be hits. By creating and album, the artist develops his artistic expression which should be his main occupation. To produce art. It looks to me that without albums, the artists will become commercial machines who will record the songs in order to satisfy the market and appetites of consumers. Don't get me wrong, commercial songs are not necessarily bad. They could be very creative and have an artistic quality. But basing the career on consumer's appetites is not what an artist should do. Any type of artist. Throughout her career Céline recorded so many songs that are maybe not suitable for the big market, but they are true artistic gems.

 

Another thing that comes to my mind! Imagine Céline stops to record the entire albums. I bet we would have less music from her because I don't see her going to the studio that often just to record a song or two in order to show the world that she is still alive in the recording industry. There would be some songs from her from time to time when she feels like doing them.

[Xpresso]

Albums still sell somewhat if you are an established artist. But for new artists, it's all about singles. I see it as payback time to radio stations that pick whatever THEY want to play regardless of what the public wants... That's one of the positive aspects at least.

I just wish single charts in the US would be based on sales (as in the UK) rather than (mainly) on airplay.

Edited March 12, 2018 at 03:11 PM by Xpresso

[celinesounds]

In France 15 streaming = one download

 

Album tracks are divided per 1000 to calculate album sales

 

And many digital stores doesn't allow to upload multiple times the same version of the song to avoid counting mistakes

[Javito]

That article is rubbish. There's still a good amount of artists and singers who like to enter the recording studio to record a full album, and love the creating process that it means. These are ARTISTS by definition.

 

If we stand for what that article says, we will be surrounded by Shakiras and Enrique Iglesias' clones everywhere, who are only made for doing hit singles one after another, ignoring what an album means and with each new single as forgettable within a couple of years as the previous one. And honestly and luckily, I don't see that happening

 

The positive side of this is also that we may see the return of the single releases in physical format...

 

Edit:

 

Aaaaand THIS:

 

It wasn't until the 70s when artists began to spend as much as several years crafting an album, which is almost career suicide in today's instant access mindset where your audience can move on if they haven't heard from you in a couple of months.

 

To whom it may concern...

Edited March 12, 2018 at 09:56 PM by Javito

[Javito]

That notion the article deffends also contradicts the fact that each time more singers are spending more time on the road touring and doing gigs from one point of the world to another, so I doubt the idea of recording only singles on a regular basis and entering the recording studio every 3-4 months will fancy an artist who is mainly doing shows all time around here and there. Makes more sense to record a bunch of songs instead, and leave them recorded to release them when it's due or on a later stage (=album)? Edited March 12, 2018 at 10:18 PM by Javito

[Javito]

Sorry double post Edited March 12, 2018 at 10:18 PM by Javito

[Xpresso]

It's not as if people haven't heard from Céline in a while.

She released a successful French album, had great PR exposure, did a summer tour and Vegas.

And another tour coming soon. No worries, people will wait for Céline's album.

[Javito]

Also, tell Grammys they have to eliminate all the categories for "best (insert style) album" and "album of the year" from their nominations

[celinesounds]

That article is rubbish. There's still a good amount of artists and singers who like to enter the recording studio to record a full album, and love the creating process that it means. These are ARTISTS by definition.

 

If we stand for what that article says, we will be surrounded by Shakiras and Enrique Iglesias' clones everywhere, who are only made for doing hit singles one after another, ignoring what an album means and with each new single as forgettable within a couple of years as the previous one. And honestly and luckily, I don't see that happening

 

The positive side of this is also that we may see the return of the single releases in physical format...

 

Edit:

 

Aaaaand THIS:

 

 

 

To whom it may concern...

 

That's the way it works nowdays

 

A good song costs a lot of money a Lp a fortune

 

That's why it's better release a decent song rather than a mediocre and a flop album

 

 

If you check an album today has only about 9/10 songs....

 

They don't do 18 songs anymore

[frana]

https://www.facebook.com/TheDionFamily/videos/1997275463933102/

[Kyle_Jared]

She's been unusually quiet (her team too) about the album.....other than a comment by her during the Australian press interview when she said "it will come out when it comes out..." which leaves me to believe there's a conflict somewhere.

 

I know on the industry site Hits daily Double the forecast of new albums had Columbia's new album from Celine listed and that was end of year last year . No date but just in the works.

 

Looking at the time table now with this being March, and no single, nothing and shows for a month starting in two weeks, I can't see her doing an album launch between now and June unless she does it immediately after the next leg of shows and releases it the end of April/ first May. That to me is too tight though.....

 

Or she releases it in June, after the Vegas dates end June 9, but then in two weeks from then she'll be starting the tour....which makes again, not much sense logistically to promote it.

 

My guess is the fall now......but even then she'll have her Vegas contract to resume again usually end of September. So, she could release end of August....like EUS, release single over summer....

[browseceline]

She's been unusually quiet (her team too) about the album.....other than a comment by her during the Australian press interview when she said "it will come out when it comes out..." which leaves me to believe there's a conflict somewhere.

 

I know on the industry site Hits daily Double the forecast of new albums had Columbia's new album from Celine listed and that was end of year last year . No date but just in the works.

 

Looking at the time table now with this being March, and no single, nothing and shows for a month starting in two weeks, I can't see her doing an album launch between now and June unless she does it immediately after the next leg of shows and releases it the end of April/ first May. That to me is too tight though.....

 

Or she releases it in June, after the Vegas dates end June 9, but then in two weeks from then she'll be starting the tour....which makes again, not much sense logistically to promote it.

 

My guess is the fall now......but even then she'll have her Vegas contract to resume again usually end of September. So, she could release end of August....like EUS, release single over summer....

 

 

and if she does release it i do not see her doing in this tour. Maybe one or two songs. Nowadays it is Vegas and touring with her greatest hits. I loved the tour, but would be nice if she brought some new stuff to the table.

 

 

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[Xpresso]

She does bring new stuff to the poker tables!

[Ronny83]

It looks like Céline Dion is now part of the ICM Partners' music roster.

 

ICM Partners is one of the world's largest talent and literary agencies.

 

https://www.iq-mag.n...s/#.WqgC2fnwYdU

[CSCfan]

It looks like Céline Dion is now part of the ICM Partners' music roster.

 

ICM Partners is one of the world's largest talent and literary agencies.

 

https://www.iq-mag.n...s/#.WqgC2fnwYdU

 

She already joined ICM when her live agent Rob Prinz became a partner at ICM in 2015. They handle her live stuff, but not her management..

Edited March 13, 2018 at 05:21 PM by CSCfan

[jpatdeleon09]

is céline the owner of production j?

[Xpresso]

No, Productions J belongs to Julie Snyder.

[IL_DINO]

I hope she uses the same strategy as the last (French) album. After all, that has worked commercially. Then we will have a single in June, which will include them in the concert program - the album should then follow the autumn and / or Christmas market. After the tour. A single by Sia on Australian concert stages would not be the stupidest idea.

I am not sure if this Asia- and Oceania-strategy works for selling this album. I would put at least as much focus on the UK / Ireland. There are dozens of good privileged and innovative cooperation partners. I would prefer Tom Odell as a composer.

I think you're just waiting for the big marketing coup. A duet with Adele, a James Bond song or something.

LG Stefan

[Kyle_Jared]

Australia and Asia have been ignored for years. She gave the UK a lot of attention just less than a year ago, so hopefully that has some dividends that will pay off. I still think she needs a couple of major UK shows (X-Factor/ Interview) and she'll easily go platinum.

 

France was also another major market for her, even with her english album it sold as much in France as it did in the states with a quarter of the population (LMBTL)

 

I also think for the USA she needs exposure but only immediately before the album is released (like a month before and then the week OF and after the album is released). She tried to promote LMBTL in September on Ellen and Kimmel and it didn't go anywhere. Even Today show performance was a week before the album came out. My personal feeling is she needs to be everywhere on American television the week the album comes out ......especially the day of.

 

Today/ GMA--summer concert series--DAY OF album release

The VIEW-/ Ellen/ Kelly and Ryan (Wed/Thur) before album and then Monday/Tuesday after album release

Edited March 13, 2018 at 07:16 PM by Kyle_Jared

[mirage]

Any news on that possible collaboration with Josh Groban, and a song with that French rapper?

[Bruno Portugal]

Any news on that possible collaboration with Josh Groban, and a song with that French rapper?

 

Absolutely no news. This album seems top secret material.

Hope we'll get some great news soon.

[Xpresso]

I heard the album will be called Secret Agent...

[Frenchie]

Any news on that possible collaboration with Josh Groban, and a song with that French rapper?

 

I don't know anything really, but Josh announced a new tour in the USA with a new album this fall. I guess that if they did a duet it would be on both of their CDs right? Maybe we could hear something from Josh in the summer.

[zuv]

Please no!! I can’t stand Josh Groban’s voice.

[Davey84]

My personal feeling is she needs to be everywhere on American television the week the album comes out ......especially the day of.

 

But not only at the release of the album, but also after that for longevity!! Promote the next single and the next.... Eversince 2003 there was only a buzz created when an album was released, but soon after that, it was dead silence

Edited March 14, 2018 at 07:53 AM by Davey84

[mirage]

Or she was invited at some show and decide to sing an old time favorite.

 

Whether or not a song would be a single, she should sing as many songs as possible at different occasions.

 

I must say,with LMBTL it was sort of the "first" time since long that she sang different songs at different shows.

 

They should keep that trend up, and promote those songs a bit more than just the usual.

 

Hope this new album and love for celine would lead to new good remixes as well.

Since she and Steve Aoki have a thing going on, it would be fun!

 

 

 

But not only at the release of the album, but also after that for longevity!! Promote the next single and the next.... Eversince 2003 there was only a buzz created when an album was released, but soon after that, it was dead silence

[Ronny83]

You are not considering that albums are not announced months ahead of their release lately. They're now announced some weeks before, or even less.

[Davey84]

Or she was invited at some show and decide to sing an old time favorite.

 

Whether or not a song would be a single, she should sing as many songs as possible at different occasions.

 

I must say,with LMBTL it was sort of the "first" time since long that she sang different songs at different shows.

 

They should keep that trend up, and promote those songs a bit more than just the usual.

 

Hope this new album and love for celine would lead to new good remixes as well.

Since she and Steve Aoki have a thing going on, it would be fun!

 

YES!! With Oprah gone, we might not have to endure another performance of BYLM. With the Concert Series it was normal she did some old songs, but she doesn't need to promote her old stuff when it's just a tv interview. LMBTL did have a good start: LMBTL, SLS, IDKL, WAAF... but sadly EUS only had a few performances, and they were all lipped!

 

And F! She really needs to get some good remixes out! It's such a shame the Jump Smokers remix of LMBTL wasn't pushed, cos that version might be even better than the album!