Second single: "Incredible" - Duet with Ne-Yo

[smw]

I think our only hope is that maybe it was always only going to be played toward the end of the Olympic games -- when they show highlights. They said "as a sort of winner's anthem". So MAYBE the video will be released around that time.

 

I've wondered if -- with all the controversy in SOCHI -- her team has just taken things slow to see if it's a good idea to release the video or not.

 

But I think there's still hope that the video will get released. They've released INCREDIBLE as a single in some areas. So the video should see the light of day at some point. It would be so nice to have, as some have said, a souvenir from this era. One music video from LMBTL!

[Your_Su_Phu]

Moving the goalposts doesn't make for a sound argument. You clearly talk about success in one post and then veer over to artistic quality the next.

[donpi86]

I think that is pretty clear we will have the video... it's kind of ridiculous to shoot a video and don't release it on youtube channel... It's pretty clear that Mtv is not going to put it on Tv... as the radios do not play the songs but the youtube channel... they have already spent the money, so why not to put it in youtube... But it is INCREDIBLE how slow it goes with Celine team.... I don't remember well but how many time passed between we saw Parler a mon Pere shooting pictures and the release of the video?? And that particle effects didn't cost that much in time in postproduction.. I can tell you. So this music video... that I'm pretty sure it was more days of shooting models dancing and acting+ postproduction+ etc.... I wouldn't be surprised if they release the video on march....

It's Celine team... we can't expect a rush marketing buzz... hehehehe

[GoldenLeaf]

Cher was mainly popular in the U.S. and the U.K. and maybe a little bit in Germany. Not saying that she doesn't have popularity in other European countries because her Farewell tour did span into smaller countries...but as far as major music markets go, Cher only really hit 2 of them.

What? In term of albums, Cher used to be popular in Europe during the ''Believe'' era otherwise her Believe album in 1998 wouldn't have sold more than 4 millions copies and her album The Greatest Hits in 1999 wouldn't have sold more than 2 millions copies in this continent alone. It just happens that she's been flopping in Europe since 2001 (and this includes UK and Germany)... and don't tell me that her latest album was successful in UK because it wasn't. Debuting at #4 and then free-falling without even managing to reach silver certification isn't what I call successful.

Edited February 16, 2014 at 08:21 PM by GoldenLeaf

[mike_z]

I think our only hope is that maybe it was always only going to be played toward the end of the Olympic games -- when they show highlights. They said "as a sort of winner's anthem". So MAYBE the video will be released around that time.

 

I've wondered if -- with all the controversy in SOCHI -- her team has just taken things slow to see if it's a good idea to release the video or not.

 

But I think there's still hope that the video will get released. They've released INCREDIBLE as a single in some areas. So the video should see the light of day at some point. It would be so nice to have, as some have said, a souvenir from this era. One music video from LMBTL!

 

I also think they could broadcast it at the end of the Olympics, to compliment the winners!

 

Still, I hope the music video doesn't contain any images from the games, just Céline, Ne-Yo, the actors and the giraffe (WTF LOL)

[mebe]

This week in Quebec:

 

On Rouge FM, Incredible is down to #5 from #3 (Peak #3)

 

http://player.montre...m.ca/?page=7188

 

On Rythme FM, the song is down to #7 from #5 (Peak #5)

 

http://www.rythmefm....al/palmares.php

 

In Toronto on CHUM FM

 

The song is down to #30 from #26 (Peak #26, for 2 weeks)

 

http://www.chumfm.com/chum-chart/2014/02/15/chum-chart-february-15-2014

[anewdayhascome]

It's so freakin' incredible that nothing is happening! I really can't believe it!

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

What? In term of albums, Cher used to be popular in Europe during the ''Believe'' era otherwise her Believe album in 1998 wouldn't have sold more than 4 millions copies and her album The Greatest Hits in 1999 wouldn't have sold more than 2 millions copies in this continent alone. It just happens that she's been flopping in Europe since 2001 (and this includes UK and Germany)... and don't tell me that her latest album was successful in UK because it wasn't. Debuting at #4 and then free-falling without even managing to reach silver certification isn't what I call successful.

 

"Believe" is not Cher's entire career. There were 30+ years before that. "Believe" was a fluke hit and even Cher has said that herself. Plus, I didn't say that her album was overly successful in the UK. I was comparing her sales to Celine's for LMBTL in the US because that's where Cher's main popularity is. And we all know sales are lower for everyone in 2014. Until certification numbers are lowered to go with the times, everyone is going to say that these sales are flop numbers, when in reality if people would get out of denial and just admit that albums aren't selling anymore in general, they would see that in 2014, these really aren't flops.

 

And I would like to thank everyone for the well wishes for my mom.

Edited February 16, 2014 at 10:15 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[LukeD]

Moving the goalposts doesn't make for a sound argument. You clearly talk about success in one post and then veer over to artistic quality the next.

You should quote! Edited February 16, 2014 at 10:46 PM by LukeD

[MrTim212]

Did Cher cover "Incredible"? If not, I'm not sure why discussions of/debate over her career are in a thread called "Second single: "Incredible" - Duet with Ne-Yo". I'm sure there's an OFF-topic thread for that...

[gafsa]

Did Cher cover "Incredible"? If not, I'm not sure why discussions of/debate over her career are in a thread called "Second single: "Incredible" - Duet with Ne-Yo". I'm sure there's an OFF-topic thread for that...

 

Yes, Cher cover "Incredible" duet with Sony

[SuperLove4Celine]

This week in Quebec:

 

On Rouge FM, Incredible is down to #5 from #3 (Peak #3)

 

http://player.montre...m.ca/?page=7188

 

On Rythme FM, the song is down to #7 from #5 (Peak #5)

 

http://www.rythmefm....al/palmares.php

 

In Toronto on CHUM FM

 

The song is down to #30 from #26 (Peak #26, for 2 weeks)

 

http://www.chumfm.co...ebruary-15-2014

 

Not surprising at all.

[MrTim212]

This week in Quebec:

 

On Rouge FM, Incredible is down to #5 from #3 (Peak #3)

 

http://player.montre...m.ca/?page=7188

 

On Rythme FM, the song is down to #7 from #5 (Peak #5)

 

http://www.rythmefm....al/palmares.php

 

In Toronto on CHUM FM

 

The song is down to #30 from #26 (Peak #26, for 2 weeks)

 

http://www.chumfm.co...ebruary-15-2014

 

It's really a shame. For a song so well received by the general public... After "The Voice" and "Home for the Holidays," the song was in the 20's on iTunes US. If only Sony/RENÉ pushed for more Olympics integration... Could've definitely made the Top 10.

[Shaun]

I applaud Sony Music UK for doing their own thing and going their own way promoting the album. They thought ahead by choosing "Breakaway" as the 2nd single and arranging for Celine to perform it on Strictly Come Dancing. Whilst the single didn't impact the charts it helped sell a shed load of albums in December. Now, instead of waiting for the mirage that is the "Incredible" video they're thinking differently and actively promoting "Water and a Flame." The song is being played at least 3 times daily on the UK's most listened to radio station. It's no surprise to see the album jump up the charts this week in the UK. If the "Incredible" video ever does come Sony Music UK will be in a unique position to promote a FOURTH single!

 

It's no surprise to me the album has been the most successful in the UK as Sony Music UK have done a great job with it, and to think they only had Celine for THREE DAYS in November!

[bilinkew]

Can't wait to see the video - where is it?????

[karebear82]

I think that is pretty clear we will have the video... it's kind of ridiculous to shoot a video and don't release it on youtube channel... It's pretty clear that Mtv is not going to put it on Tv... as the radios do not play the songs but the youtube channel... they have already spent the money, so why not to put it in youtube... But it is INCREDIBLE how slow it goes with Celine team.... I don't remember well but how many time passed between we saw Parler a mon Pere shooting pictures and the release of the video?? And that particle effects didn't cost that much in time in postproduction.. I can tell you. So this music video... that I'm pretty sure it was more days of shooting models dancing and acting+ postproduction+ etc.... I wouldn't be surprised if they release the video on march....

It's Celine team... we can't expect a rush marketing buzz... hehehehe

 

wow and i really hope that you are right about the music video being released and all, its just very sad that its way too late for the video, (when, or if, the videos ever released) to make any impact for celine and become a hit for her here in the usa (since she hasnt had a hit in the usa that i know of in like what, 10 years or so now and it would be great to have at least one hit for celine to come out of the wonderful lmbtl album)...

 

now i have a question about the 'parler a mon pere' (if its misspelled sorry) song and video that you just mentioned in the quote above thats from celine most recent french album or w/e, what i wanna know about it is: how long did it took the music video to be released from after you saw the footage of the video being filmed? do you remember how many weeks or months or w/e it took for that video to be released? if you do happen to remember, can you please let us know here? if youre able to, thank you in advanced youre awesome!!!! i wanna know about this so that it can give me a little ray of hope that the video for incredible will actually come to existence and that sony wont just lock it up in the "celines unreleased projects vault" with her other unreleased songs and videos, and lord knows what other unreleased projects she has made that is locked away by sony lol)... sorry about these questions about the french song since i dont know celines french music that well, i have seen a few videos on youtube but i dont know anything in french at all so therefore i dont keep up w/ her french stuff that well and here where i live at, i cant find her french albums anywhere only her english albums of course so i dont have any of her french albums just her english ones, so im still clueless about her french music, sorry about that folks, dont get me wrong i like quite a few of her french songs, i think the songs are great... i just wish that i knew french words lol, im not good w/ foreign languages lol... i took spanish for 2 years back in middle school back in the 90s, and after all those years i can barely remember any words, in fact i can only remember a few spanish words, thats pretty much about it, im bad w/ languages lol... :)

Edited February 17, 2014 at 02:13 PM by karebear82

[Timster]

I applaud Sony Music UK for doing their own thing and going their own way promoting the album. They thought ahead by choosing "Breakaway" as the 2nd single and arranging for Celine to perform it on Strictly Come Dancing. Whilst the single didn't impact the charts it helped sell a shed load of albums in December. Now, instead of waiting for the mirage that is the "Incredible" video they're thinking differently and actively promoting "Water and a Flame." The song is being played at least 3 times daily on the UK's most listened to radio station. It's no surprise to see the album jump up the charts this week in the UK. If the "Incredible" video ever does come Sony Music UK will be in a unique position to promote a FOURTH single!

 

It's no surprise to me the album has been the most successful in the UK as Sony Music UK have done a great job with it, and to think they only had Celine for THREE DAYS in November!

 

I totally agree, they've done a great job with promotion. The BBC Radio 2 support has been phenomenal too, as all 3 singles have been on the A list, and the album was also 'Record of the Week' at the time of release.

[donpi86]

wow and i really hope that you are right about the music video being released and all, its just very sad that its way too late for the video, (when, or if, the videos ever released) to make any impact for celine and become a hit for her here in the usa (since she hasnt had a hit in the usa that i know of in like what, 10 years or so now and it would be great to have at least one hit for celine to come out of the wonderful lmbtl album)...

 

now i have a question about the 'parler a mon pere' (if its misspelled sorry) song and video that you just mentioned in the quote above thats from celine most recent french album or w/e, what i wanna know about it is: how long did it took the music video to be released from after you saw the footage of the video being filmed? do you remember how many weeks or months or w/e it took for that video to be released? if you do happen to remember, can you please let us know here? if youre able to, thank you in advanced youre awesome!!!! i wanna know about this so that it can give me a little ray of hope that the video for incredible will actually come to existence and that sony wont just lock it up in the "celines unreleased projects vault" with her other unreleased songs and videos, and lord knows what other unreleased projects she has made that is locked away by sony lol)... sorry about these questions about the french song since i dont know celines french music that well, i have seen a few videos on youtube but i dont know anything in french at all so therefore i dont keep up w/ her french stuff that well and here where i live at, i cant find her french albums anywhere only her english albums of course so i dont have any of her french albums just her english ones, so im still clueless about her french music, sorry about that folks, dont get me wrong i like quite a few of her french songs, i think the songs are great... i just wish that i knew french words lol, im not good w/ foreign languages lol... i took spanish for 2 years back in middle school back in the 90s, and after all those years i can barely remember any words, in fact i can only remember a few spanish words, thats pretty much about it, im bad w/ languages lol... :)

 

I make a little research here in the forum and this are more or less the dates:

The song it is release on July 2th>>>>>>>>On July 13th they release the lyric video>>>>>>>>on JUly 18th we see the first pictures of the shooting with the other model dressed like Celine in the middle of the desert>>>>>>>>>>> The video is released on..... SEPTEMBER 17th!!!!

 

Soooo... I would not be surprised if they release this video on April... hahahahahahaha or maybe for the next olympics...

[donpi86]

but maybe this first single from Sans Attendre was something special attending that the first single was release pretty soon so they wait for the video to release the entire album....

Another example it can be the second single with music video, Le Miracle. We could see by a tv show that she recorded the forest scenes on october 2th and the video was published in CelinedionVevo on November 20th... so... we know they take their time in postproduction.... what we can see is that the Incredible video is going to have a secondary plot with actors or models and probably only Celine, and the giraffe and Ne-Yo on the roof... hahahaha

[stevo]

The promo in the UK was so good. I felt excited as a fan to see posters everywhere, adverts on tv, the write ups and reviews and great reception in papers etc.

[karebear82]

but maybe this first single from Sans Attendre was something special attending that the first single was release pretty soon so they wait for the video to release the entire album....

Another example it can be the second single with music video, Le Miracle. We could see by a tv show that she recorded the forest scenes on october 2th and the video was published in CelinedionVevo on November 20th... so... we know they take their time in postproduction.... what we can see is that the Incredible video is going to have a secondary plot with actors or models and probably only Celine, and the giraffe and Ne-Yo on the roof... hahahaha

 

hello donpi86, thank you soooooo much for your replies to me, i really appreciate it... :) (i have read both messages btw, i just cant copy and paste both messages in the quote from my stupid crappy phone lol, sorry about that)...

 

and wowwwwwwww thats really crazy that it took them ALMOST 2 MONTHS TO COMPLETE HER OTHER RECENT VIDEOS FROM HER FRENCH ALBUM, THATS A REALLY LONG TIME TO MAKE A VIDEO I THINK LOL... so w/ the pace that it takes her videos to be released nowadays judging from the past few ones, by the time incredible gets released (if it still does get released since it seems that sony usa doesnt like celine or her music at all judging by the way they have been treating her these days and treating the lmbtl album), the video, and the song itself in general, will be pretty much forgotten by everybody out there, and the few radio stations that play incredible and her other songs from the lmbtl album will stop playing the song altogether, and everybody, including us fans from this forum, will eventually forget about the video (i know that i will have forgotten about it in a month or 2 from now)... and when it gets released, it will end up with almost no views on it and thus causing youtube to eventually remove the video since they tend to remove videos every once in a while that dont have many views on them, as they have already done that w/ a few other celine videos that were once stored on my favorites playlist on my youtube account (celines music videos, concert bootlegs, and tv interviews), but eventually were removed from youtube cuz they didnt have enough views on them apparently... SO R.I.P. INCREDIBLE, IT WAS NICE ENJOYING YOU AS A POTENTIAL HIT WHILE IT LASTED, NOW TOO BAD YOU HAVE TO FADE AWAY W/ THE REST OF THE LMBTL ALBUM INSTEAD OF BASKING IN THE SUNSHINE W/ THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!! :(

 

here are the new lyrics i have now created for the song incredible (and now im calling the song "forgettable" instead of incredible since its a much more suitable title for the song now lol):

 

"forgettable oh oh oh oh, lets make them not remember, that we were forgettable, very forgettable oh oh oh oh"...

Edited February 17, 2014 at 07:25 PM by karebear82

[Miha]

The promo in the UK was so good. I felt excited as a fan to see posters everywhere, adverts on tv, the write ups and reviews and great reception in papers etc.

You lucky ("bastards") you have to remind us.....grrr so envious

[ehild]

I don't understand their move to release the digital bundle......nowhere? I may just have to bootleg it. I'm sure it's out there somewhere. I hate to say that but if they won't release it here in the US and some of the other major markets, what do they think we're going to do? Don't understand this move at all....... (sorry if I'm a bit late the discussion about this particular topic for Incredible....had some snow days here and it was hard to get online so I'm just really seeing this)

[davidjag79]

Chill out people the MV is coming I mean it wouldn't have been a segment on GMA about the song and behind the scenes look at the filming of it. C'mon granted Sony has done a piss poor job at promo here in the US for LMBTL ... They are obviously waiting for the right moment to premiere the MV to coincide with the Olympics to give the song a push. Who knows if the Olympics + a MV for "Incredible" will produce a hit? My feelings on the whole issue is "Incredible" to Rene and Sony was the "gem" of the album and had the most hit potential to the mainstream in the US. The reason I say this is because "they" as in Celine and Rene were going on and on and onnnn about the collaboration with Ne-Yo for 2 years straight with any interview prior to all the push backs of the album. Edited February 17, 2014 at 09:50 PM by davidjag79

[mebe]

Just saw on Twitter that Incredible was playing on 99ERS 100 FM Bandung...It must be in Indonesia. Anyway it says:

 

The no 1 teenagers Radio for 11 consecutive years!!!

 

The song played right after the new song by Shakira and Rihanna!

 

Go Indonesia Go!!!

[gafsa]

Just saw on Twitter that Incredible was playing on 99ERS 100 FM Bandung...It must be in Indonesia. Anyway it says:

 

The no 1 teenagers Radio for 11 consecutive years!!!

 

The song played right after the new song by Shakira and Rihanna!

 

Go Indonesia Go!!!

 

Yes it was the most popular radio station back than when i still live in Bandung and may be it still popular. But unfortunately i never heard it in Jakarta radio station.

[anewdayhascome]

Well, I disagree with those who say that Celine can't come back to numer 1 spot with pop modern material. It's all about promotion and proper approach. Look back at TTWII, IA, ANDHC and IDAN. Each time they were worldwide hits and not ballads. Those songs were heavily played, had videos and were performed a lot live. It is possible.

 

In my opinion, the problem is with radio stations and Sony. The first ones don't consider Celine "cool" enough to play and as for Sony, they know she'll sell either way, so they don't want to put any effort. Both Incredible and Breakaway could have become big big BIG hits but this album is doomed from the beginning. No concept, wrong concept, delays, changes, one year, two years, 4 years, later LMBTL which is really huge! but again sang during a concert and later a month without anything. They should have released the single instantly and do a video. No promotion in radios. Only TV appearances... Releasing Breakaway and Incredible as "ghost" singles. I feel like we don't have a second single still and yet there were moments when they could have done something about it. Now they are again and again postponing things and nothing happens. It's the wrong approach that other albums didn't have. And don't say it's something certain and that it's been like this for ages. Look at Sans attendre. We had 3 REAL singles, in radios, with videos and more importantly with a minitour. So they CAN do good things... but they come up with horrible decisions over and over again

[Alex_Incognito]

Well, I disagree with those who say that Celine can't come back to numer 1 spot with pop modern material. It's all about promotion and proper approach. Look back at TTWII, IA, ANDHC and IDAN. Each time they were worldwide hits and not ballads.

 

IDAN was 11 years ago. The music scene has changed dramatically. From MHWGO to IDAN the scene changed dramatically.

[karebear82]

karebear82 , one of the soundtracks is "the Prayer".

 

hi ukrfan, im so sorry that i didnt reply back to you sooner, i must have missed this message when going through the other messages this past weekend and this past weekend was kinda rough for me boyh @ work and @ home especially w/ all this frickin snow among other things going on... sorry about that, i really do apologize for not replying to you sooner... i do thank you for your reply, i really appreciate it... :)

 

so you mean that the song thats in the movie "gimme shelter" that celine sings @ the end credits is her song "the prayer", a 16-year-old song that she has already released (and please no offense to those of you on this forum), but the prayer in my honest opinion is not one of celines best songs, even tho yes the lyrics are sweet and lovely and her voice is in great shape as normal, but i do find the prayer to be one of her most boring songs ive ever heard... i dont know if its cuz the song is too "classical sounding" to me or what, i just dont care for it much... im more into pop, soft rock, hard rock, r&b, oldies, country, dance, alternative, some hip-hop, and some musicals & soundtrack stuff mostly, im not really into classical and opera stuff, its not my cup of tea, again no offense for those of you who are, im sorry...

 

i was kinda hoping that celines song in the movie "gimme shelter" would be either from the lmbtl album since it is celines newest album after all, or even a new song that was made specifically for the movie itself like her previous movie hits were, (such as "my heart will go on", "beauty and the beast", "when i fall in love", and "because you loved me", which were all written and recorded specifically for the movies that they were played in and not for any previous albums or any other projects)... i just thought that maybe having another movie hit would be great for celine to have some musical exposure again, at least here in the usa where she has become almost invisible to everybody except for us big time fans and the people who go to her vegas shows (which i would like to see someday but w/ a family to raise and money being tight as it is for me already thanks to hours @ work being cut lately, i really cant afford $1000 to go to vegas at all and im on the east coast, hey sorry to celine lol...

 

and about the whole album situation w/ celine these days, again its such a real shame that alot more of her usa fans (the ones that are not from this forum that is) and even the general public out there didnt embrace celines loved me back to life album, while i agree its not one of her very best albums compared to her older ones, but its still a good album and the usa should have given lmbtl a chance... now im starting to wonder if celine will still be making albums from now on, at least the english language ones since now theyre not doing as well as her french language seem to still be doimg these days, i dont know if sony music usa will still keep celine on their rouster for the english albums, or like some others on here have previous said very recently, have her leave pop music altogether and only record either a jazz music album or an album of really old standards, which again no offense to anybody in here, but im also not crazy about jazz or the really old standards type of music, i prefer celine doing the pop, soft rock, and r&b music that shes already done, and then maybe doing some dance, alternative, or country music someday (since those genres of music are still successful in most of the usa, most people still listen to dance, alternative, and country music as well, at least most people that i know still do lol), but thats just my own opinions... and i also hope that if she does end up doing a jazz or a standards album someday that its only 1 album of that type of music please, and that it wont take her another 6 years or longer to bring out more albums or anything... now i can understand this past time around cuz she had her twins which i understand would be harder to record songs when she was pregnant and all that so she had to take time to rest for that reason and we all deserve to have breaks sometimes am i right heck yes lol... but i dont think she can have any more kids cuz she is getting older, and i really hope that she will record a few more new albums for us while her husband rene is still around and before she does retire someday which we all know will happen eventually in the future unfortunately... :(

Edited February 18, 2014 at 06:43 PM by karebear82

[Leah-M_ILoveCeline5]

I love this song so much when will the new music video be released I'm getting so excited for it