Second single: "Incredible" - Duet with Ne-Yo

February 13, 2014 at 12:06 AM

But It doesn´t have to be SO poor.

February 13, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Maybe we will get the video on Friday for valentines day :wub:

February 13, 2014 at 12:23 AM

Céline on the cover of 7 Jours from the Incredible music video

February 13, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Is it really Sony? or does Rene have a clue anymore?

He is her MANAGER. He can PUSH for these things to be timed. We're now going into two months since she performed the song live on the Voice.

I say no video was planned, but when they learned NBC/CBC would be including the song, they decided the extra 'coin' could not be spent on a video.

Case in point: Mariah's new single is out today and the video is launching TONIGHT. Same day as song released to iTunes. I can't stand the friggin woman but at least she/her label give a damn!

Edited February 13, 2014 at 12:50 AM by Kyle_Jared

February 13, 2014 at 01:28 AM

Is it really Sony? or does Rene have a clue anymore?

He is her MANAGER. He can PUSH for these things to be timed. We're now going into two months since she performed the song live on the Voice.

I say no video was planned, but when they learned NBC/CBC would be including the song, they decided the extra 'coin' could not be spent on a video.

Case in point: Mariah's new single is out today and the video is launching TONIGHT. Same day as song released to iTunes. I can't stand the friggin woman but at least she/her label give a damn!

I lost faith in René as Céline's manager years ago.

February 13, 2014 at 01:31 AM

Αll nice and good, but IMO the cover should also include Ne-Yo as well. Not only he sings 50% of the song, but he also wrote it and produced it.

good point!

February 13, 2014 at 03:57 AM

Is it really Sony? or does Rene have a clue anymore?

He is her MANAGER. He can PUSH for these things to be timed. We're now going into two months since she performed the song live on the Voice.

I say no video was planned, but when they learned NBC/CBC would be including the song, they decided the extra 'coin' could not be spent on a video.

Case in point: Mariah's new single is out today and the video is launching TONIGHT. Same day as song released to iTunes. I can't stand the friggin woman but at least she/her label give a damn!

Yes. I am afraid Mariah's new album will outsell Celine's LMBTL album because Mariah's record label know what they are doing. Worst scenario is this will be on the headlines just like what they did with Britney outselling Celine in Las Vegas.

Edited February 13, 2014 at 03:58 AM by dj_a_rock

February 13, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Yes. I am afraid Mariah's new album will outsell Celine's LMBTL album because Mariah's record label know what they are doing. Worst scenario is this will be on the headlines just like what they did with Britney outselling Celine in Las Vegas.

Mariah and her team pay so much attention to the right promotion of her singles because she is a singles artist now and she needs to rely on singles success to sell her album. If Mariah's lead single misses the Hot 100 like it happened with LMBTL then Mariah is done. Not only in US, but internationally as well. With Celine it is not much of a deal because she sold albums steadily the past decade without real hits. Mariah failed to sell more than 1.2m back in 2009 and more than 700k in 2010 with her respective album releases. It will take a miracle for her to sell over 1.4m copies in 2014. Chances are she will sell much lower than that because her image is severely damaged and she has pissed off her fans because she's been postponing her album since late 2012. These postponements alone prove lack of professionalism on their part, I would hardly say they know what they are doing. Edited February 13, 2014 at 11:03 AM by LukeD

February 13, 2014 at 11:06 AM

I lost faith in René as Céline's manager years ago.

Which year exactly? Before or after she grossed $680m from touring? :giggle:

Come on, dear. It has been like a year since she sold a massive amount of French records. Edited February 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM by LukeD

February 13, 2014 at 01:17 PM

Yes. I am afraid Mariah's new album will outsell Celine's LMBTL album because Mariah's record label know what they are doing. Worst scenario is this will be on the headlines just like what they did with Britney outselling Celine in Las Vegas.

Don't be afraid...to feel this way.... [she's] gonna make you understand.. :giggle:

February 13, 2014 at 01:42 PM

Mariah and her team pay so much attention to the right promotion of her singles because she is a singles artist now and she needs to rely on singles success to sell her album. If Mariah's lead single misses the Hot 100 like it happened with LMBTL then Mariah is done. Not only in US, but internationally as well. With Celine it is not much of a deal because she sold albums steadily the past decade without real hits. Mariah failed to sell more than 1.2m back in 2009 and more than 700k in 2010 with her respective album releases. It will take a miracle for her to sell over 1.4m copies in 2014. Chances are she will sell much lower than that because her image is severely damaged and she has pissed off her fans because she's been postponing her album since late 2012. These postponements alone prove lack of professionalism on their part, I would hardly say they know what they are doing.

I have read a lot of the views of fans on this site for some time now. However, I don't think anyone has really been able to accurately pin point why her pas few albums have sold all that well. I personally don't think that it has been down to promotion, her management or even Las Vegas. Granted some of those may have been factors. However, I think it is the lack of direction in her albums and lack of quality songs. I like her new album, but I am a fan, so I am biased. There are no songs on her recent albums which have been able to capture audiences. I thought that Loved Me Back to Life was ok, but not great. The chorus was a bit to whiny. I would say that Incredible is the album's best shot.

She needs to get great songs, whether they be ballads or whatever. Ballads still work, but you need great ones. Look at Emile Sande, or that Passenger song (Let her go). All beautiful ballads.

Mariah's newest song, as much as I hate to admit it,is very catchy and it is not hard to like.

You can't just please the fans these days. People are too fickle. We need a great hit song. It's all about the songs.

February 13, 2014 at 02:11 PM

Anyone else dying to see the music video or it´s just me?

February 13, 2014 at 02:28 PM

Anyone else dying to see the music video or it´s just me?

Meee

February 13, 2014 at 02:58 PM

Anyone else dying to see the music video or it´s just me?

First the video, thén die.

February 13, 2014 at 03:39 PM

We have been dying for a new English music video since Taking Chances in 2007... Hope the wait will be over very soon. And the music video will be incredible enough to love us back to life.

February 13, 2014 at 03:49 PM

yes me too!!!!!!!! im dying to see the music video for incredible... and esprcially since im stuck in my house thanx to the snow we got in maryland (we got 15 inches of snow and i just heard on the news that were gonna get MORE SNOW THIS WEEKEND YUCK BOOOOOO IM SICK OF WINTER!!!!!!!!)

so for me being "snowed in" for lord knows how many days it would be REALLY AWESOME to have the incredible music video to finally watch & it should be completed & ready to be shown by this point since its only a 3-or-4-minute video not a movie or tv show!!!!!!!!! and it was filmed almost 3 weeks ago now i really wish that they release it asap!!!!!!!!!!

February 13, 2014 at 03:50 PM

Is it really Sony? or does Rene have a clue anymore?

He is her MANAGER. He can PUSH for these things to be timed. We're now going into two months since she performed the song live on the Voice.

I say no video was planned, but when they learned NBC/CBC would be including the song, they decided the extra 'coin' could not be spent on a video.

Case in point: Mariah's new single is out today and the video is launching TONIGHT. Same day as song released to iTunes. I can't stand the friggin woman but at least she/her label give a damn!

Personally, I find it irritating that the promotion for the album has been lacking but we must understand Celine's feelings on the matter. A few years ago, she explained that she has been #1 before and she's done trying to go for that. She has a "been there, done that" attitude about it. Now, she is about her family and singing for her fans. In essence, she doesn't care about the charts or general public. She just wants to make her fans happy!

Regarding Mariah, did you watch the video she released before her new single? Did you notice how it showcases EVERY SINGLE ONE of her accomplishments? That is because that is what Mariah cares about. While I love her voice, the woman is very vain and up her own rear-end. Its really quite sad because, as soon as her debut came out, I was in love with her and her voice but she has morphed into the stereotypical diva: unapproachable and aloof. Is that how you wanted Celine? A Celine that is more obsessed with the almighty dollar than her family and fans? A Celine that makes business decisions based solely on money that cause her to overwork herself into a highly publicized mental breakdown? I don't think you do. And that is why I am thankful that Rene is there to deal with the business. Like it or not, the business world is cut-throat and cold. Celine Dion is not!

On to the single, Sony needs to replace the coverart on iTunes to a photo of Celine & Ne-Yo or even the cover of the German single (I LOVE that shot of Celine)!

http://i.imgur.com/U0wJHPY.png

February 13, 2014 at 04:01 PM

yes me too!!!!!!!! im dying to see the music video for incredible... and esprcially since im stuck in my house thanx to the snow we got in maryland (we got 15 inches of snow and i just heard on the news that were gonna get MORE SNOW THIS WEEKEND YUCK BOOOOOO IM SICK OF WINTER!!!!!!!!)

so for me being "snowed in" for lord knows how many days it would be REALLY AWESOME to have the incredible music video to finally watch & it should be completed & ready to be shown by this point since its only a 3-or-4-minute video not a movie or tv show!!!!!!!!! and it was filmed almost 3 weeks ago now i really wish that they release it asap!!!!!!!!!!

We just got our first real snow in yearssss! It's like 8 inches or so with ice on top of it now! I can't stay inside, I just keep going out and walking around in it lol! I just got back from an hour walk and check Facebook to see everyone complaining about being cold and I'm already wanting to go back out :laugh:

If I lived where it snowed a lot though, I might be tired of it. Especially having to take dogs out every day!

Edited February 13, 2014 at 04:02 PM by littleames

February 13, 2014 at 04:43 PM

Which year exactly? Before or after she grossed $680m from touring? Come on, dear. It has been like a year since she sold a massive amount of French records.

Do not call me "dear." It is condescending and rude. Second of all, just because she may have grossed a ton of money from a tour, doesn't mean she's successful. Exactly how many people in the U.S. know the song "Taking Chances" off hand? How many people know of "Loved Me Back To Life" (album or single, take your pick). How vocally horrible was the release of "A New Day...Live In Las Vegas." Explain to me again why "Goodbye's (The Saddest Word)" was selected as a single from "A New Day Has Come" when there were clearly other better choices? Explain to me why Celine practically ignores her fans' requests for songs to be performed live? (Doing one or two "fan favorites" like "Then You Look At Me" or "Tous les blues..." isn't going to ruin a show or her career.) Why is it Celine isn't "allowed" to perform "My Heart Will Go On" first in her current Vegas show? Oh yes, it's because Rene b***h-slapped her down on that one. Why was only one song from "D'elles" included in the "Taking Chances World Tour"? Why do the "hidden gems" she and Rene claim are on albums ("A Song For You," "Miles To Go (Before I Sleep)" always ignored after an album is recorded? So, yes, because of those reasons listed, I lost faith in Rene as her manager years ago.

Oh, and again, do NOT call me "dear" again. Thank you.

February 13, 2014 at 05:14 PM

Anyone else dying to see the music video or it´s just me?

No, it's not just you. Me too, for sure. Wonder what they're waiting for? Everything always takes so looong with them. It frustrates the hell out of me.

Sharon

February 13, 2014 at 05:47 PM

Im sorry but the new song Mariah Carey is boring... her voice autotune in the final note... and her voice on the begining sounds terrible...

Incredible can be a hit but need most promotion, no only the FKN video... she need go to the USA and promote the song in every shows that young people saw...

Celine and Rene need wake up and don't lose Incredible how lose LBTL...

February 13, 2014 at 06:18 PM

Second of all, just because she may have grossed a ton of money from a tour, doesn't mean she's successful.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Lindsay-Lohan-Spits-Out-Drink.gif

Why?

Because you say so?

There are different ways to measure success. If you simply claimed she was no longer successful as a current relevant radio artist, then you might have an argument (although it's arguable depending upon the region), but to make a general claim that grossing a ton of money from a tour doesn't validate success is flat-out not based in reality. What's more, from a truly objective point of view, artists make more money from tours/residencies these days than album sales, especially veteran artists like Celine who can command a pretty penny for tickets.

Secondly, I love how you totally ignored the latter part of his comment concerning the phenomenal success of "Sans Attendre".

Exactly how many people in the U.S. know the song "Taking Chances" off hand? How many people know of "Loved Me Back To Life" (album or single, take your pick).

Again, irrelevant to the issue of "success" in general. Even if we were talking about current commercial relevance, how many artists 30 years into their career manage that? Naming a handful of exceptions doesn't prove anything against the rule, either. But nooooo, it's all Rene's fault, he ruined the fact that Celine's not as hot as Rihanna and Miley on the charts right now. :clap: :sofunny: :w00t:

How vocally horrible was the release of "A New Day...Live In Las Vegas."

And that's Rene's fault...?

Never mind the fact that it was one of the best selling DVD's of the year and her best selling DVD ever.

Explain to me again why
"Goodbye's (The Saddest Word)" was selected as a single from "A New Day Has Come" when there were clearly other better choices? Explain to me why Celine practically ignores her fans' requests for songs to be performed live? (Doing one or two "fan favorites" like "Then You Look At Me" or "Tous les blues..." isn't going to ruin a show or her career.) Why is it Celine isn't "allowed" to perform "My Heart Will Go On" first in her current Vegas show? Oh yes, it's because Rene b***h-slapped her down on that one. Why was only one song from "D'elles" included in the "Taking Chances World Tour"? Why do the "hidden gems" she and Rene claim are on albums ("A Song For You," "Miles To Go (Before I Sleep)" always ignored after an album is recorded? So, yes, because of those reasons listed, I lost faith in Rene as her manager years ago.

Yawn, more of the same. Another person who lives in their tiny little Celine bubble and blames every single micro-mismanagement of Celine's career on Rene/Sony (disregarding the myriad of external factors beyond Celine/Sony's control), and who is egotistical enough to think that if they had personally managed Celine's career she would still be #1 on the BB hot 100.

Edited February 13, 2014 at 06:38 PM by Your_Su_Phu

February 13, 2014 at 08:01 PM

The fact is that they are more interested in selling tickets for celine´s shows in las Vegas than selling albums. I´m not happy with this lack of promotion, cause the album (which is not a flop) is dying too fast.

February 13, 2014 at 08:03 PM

Do not call me "dear." It is condescending and rude. Second of all, just because she may have grossed a ton of money from a tour, doesn't mean she's successful. Exactly how many people in the U.S. know the song "Taking Chances" off hand? How many people know of "Loved Me Back To Life" (album or single, take your pick). How vocally horrible was the release of "A New Day...Live In Las Vegas." Explain to me again why "Goodbye's (The Saddest Word)" was selected as a single from "A New Day Has Come" when there were clearly other better choices? Explain to me why Celine practically ignores her fans' requests for songs to be performed live? (Doing one or two "fan favorites" like "Then You Look At Me" or "Tous les blues..." isn't going to ruin a show or her career.) Why is it Celine isn't "allowed" to perform "My Heart Will Go On" first in her current Vegas show? Oh yes, it's because Rene b***h-slapped her down on that one. Why was only one song from "D'elles" included in the "Taking Chances World Tour"? Why do the "hidden gems" she and Rene claim are on albums ("A Song For You," "Miles To Go (Before I Sleep)" always ignored after an album is recorded? So, yes, because of those reasons listed, I lost faith in Rene as her manager years ago.
Oh, and again, do NOT call me "dear" again. Thank you.

I can reassure you I did not use the word 'dear' in a sarcastic way. Other than that, as far as I'm not insulting you, I'm going to use any word I want no matter how many times you intend to write 'NOT' in capitals.

Clear enough? Cool. Grossing $680m can only be a proof of success, what you said that grossing tons of money from a tour doesn't mean she's successful is extremely contradictory. We are not even talking about 1 successful tour, it's about 6 consecutive years of doing extremely well in ticket sales which always rank higher than single sales from a commercial standpoint (1 ticket = $100+, 1 download = $1). Talking about the singles, Rene has nothing to do with the fact that TC and LMBTL were ignored by mainstream radios. DJs despise Celine and they have clearly stated they would not play her songs no matter how cool or modern or catchy they are. You talked about fans requests? Well, what requests? I have seen no requests, not even an official thread about them. Even if there were specific requests why would Celine have to do as we please? She is a singer, not our puppet. The setlist of each tour is obviously the result of Celine demanding ('The Reason') and backing off ('My Heart Will Go On), this doesn't mean she is suppressed by Rene, it's a huge exaggeration on your part to talk about '*CENSORED*-slaps'. As for the 'hidden gems' there is a freaking reason he called them HIDDEN. He picked these words to perfectly describe awesome (=gems) songs that don't really see the light (=hidden), this doesn't mean Celine falls sort of great popular songs. I can only agree with the fact that GTSW was a bad single choice and that Celine should have performed a couple more songs from 'D'elles'. The rest of your comments are invalid and irrelevant to me. Rene is no God and I don't think there is someone here who thinks so highly of him, but album sales of 50m in the 00s, ticket sales of $680m and a huge impact that only added to her legacy will always stand above promotional mistakes here and there. Edited February 13, 2014 at 08:15 PM by LukeD

February 13, 2014 at 08:15 PM

We just got our first real snow in yearssss! It's like 8 inches or so with ice on top of it now! I can't stay inside, I just keep going out and walking around in it lol! I just got back from an hour walk and check Facebook to see everyone complaining about being cold and I'm already wanting to go back out

If I lived where it snowed a lot though, I might be tired of it. Especially having to take dogs out every day!

wow so you got this nasty weather too, and this is the 1st time that you have gotten snow in years? i hope that you dont mind me asking but what state do you live in? i live in maryland and yes we have had ALOT OF SNOW AND NASTY WEATHER THIS WINTER, I HAVE NOW BECOME SICK OF THE SNOW, MY FAMILY AND I ARE FANTASIZING LATELY ABOUT MOVING SOUTH LIKE IN FLORIDA OR GEORGIA OR SOMETHING WHERE THEY DONT GET SNOW LIKE US NORTH-EASTERS HAVE BEEN GETTING... BUT WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR US TO MOVE, CUZ OUR HOUSE WILL NEED A TON OF WORK DONE TO IT IN ORDER TO GET IT SOLD SO THAT WE COULD AFFORD TO FIND A HOUSE SOMEWHERE IN THE SOUTH FOR ALL OF US TO LIVE IN (I LIVE WITH 6 OTHER PPL AND WE ALSO 3 CATS...) BUT GOING SOUTH DOES SOUND LIKE A BETTER IDEA MORE AND MORE EACH DAY, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THIS NASTY WEATHER YUUUUUCK LOL, IM SICO OF WINTER IM READY FOR SPRING!!!!!!!!! BRING ON THE 50-AND-60-DEGREE WEATHER NOW AND TAKE AWAY THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!

AND ABOUT WALKING DOGS IN SNOW, I KNOW THAT FEELS EXACTLY LOL, SINCE I WORK IN AN ANIMAL HOSPITAL AS A VETERINARY ASSISTANT AND MY FELLOW CO-WORKERS AND I HAVE TO WALK DOGS OUTSIDE THROUGHOUT THE DAY NO MATTER WHAT THE WEATHERS LIKE, AND LET ME TELL YOU WALKING DOGS IN SNOW IW NOT FUN AT ALL, IM REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD THIS WEEKEND @ WORK YAY NOOOOOTTTTT LOL... PLEASE STAY SAFE AND WARM AND DRY EVERYBODY LOL...

AND ABOUT THE TOPIC OF THE INCREDIBLE VIDEO, I WISH THAT IT WOULD BE RELEASED ALREADY CUZ I THINK ITS A PRETTY SONG THAT HAS SOME POTIENTIAL TO BECOME A HIT... YES GRANTED, TO ME INCREDIBLE NOT THE BEST CELINE SONG EVER COMPARED TO SOME OF HER SONGS FROM THE PAST, BUT ITS STILL GOOD ENOUGH... I JUST THINK THAT, LIKE SOMEONE ELSE HERE ALREADY SAID ABOVE ME, YOUR_SU_PHU I THINK IT WAS, THE REASON WHY INCREDIBLE AND CELINES OTHER RECENTLY RELEASED SONGS FROM THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS PERIOD (LOVED ME BACK TO LIFE, BREAKAWAY, TAKING CHANCES, ALONE, AND EYES ON ME), DIDNT BECOME BIG HITS HERE IN THE USA (AND IM JUST TALKING ABOUT THE USA, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE I KNOW MOST OF HER SONGS ARE STILL POPULAR FOR THE MOST PART AND SHE IS RESPECTED ALOT MORE), IS CUZ THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS DIFFERENT TASTES IN MUSIC WITH RAP, HIPHOP, AND DANCE CLUB MUSIC BEING SO POPULAR SO MUCH IN RECENT YEARS AND NOT ALOT OF YOUNG PPL CARE FOR CELINES MUSIC OR INTO OTHER ARTISTS LIKE HER SO HER NEWER STUFF NOW GETS IGNORED CUZ SOME PPL THINK THAT HER SONGS ARENT "UPBEAT OR COOL ENOUGH" OR THEY THINK SHES NOT "SEXY OR SLEAZY ENOUGH" SO NOBODY WILL GIVE CELINES MUSIC ENOUGH AND IM AFRAID IT SEEMS HER POPULARITY HERE IN THE USA IS NOW SLOWLY BUT SURELY FADING AWAY, JUST LIKE MANY SINGERS AND BANDS BEFORE HER, CUZ ALOT OF PPL THINK HER MUSIC ISNT GOOD AND THEY DONT LIKE BALLADS AND CHEEZY LOVE SONGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, EVEN THO PERSONALLY I LIKE BALLADS AND LOVE SONGS AS WELL AS UPBEAT AND DANCE SONGS, BUT APPARENTLY ALOT OF AMERICAN PPL DONT NOWADAYS CUZ THE HIPHOP AND DANCE TYPE OG MUSIC ARE ALL OVER THE TOP 40 RADIO NOWADAYS, EVEN ON THE ADULT COTEMPORARY STATIONS AROUND HERE HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THEN WHAT IT USED TO BE... AND THE FACT THAT CELINE HAVE BEEN BANNED FROM BEING PLAYED ON THE RADIO THESE DAYS REALLY IS SUCH A FRICKIN SHAME, WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT IDEA TO BAN CELINES MUSIC FROM BEING PLAYED ON THE USA RADIO STATIONS, EVEN THE ADULT CONTEMPORARY STATIONS, SHOULD GET A BIG SLAP UPSIDE THE HEAD FOR THAT, I MEAN WHY SHOULD ANYBODY BE BANNED FROM THE RADIO, ESPECIALLY A SINGER WITH SUCH GREAT SONGS LIKE CELINE WHO IS VERY TALENTED AND HAS BEAUTIFUL SONGS THAT SHOULD BE STILL PLAYED ON THE RADIO I THINK ITS UNFAIR AND I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO GET CELINES MUSIC PLAYED ON THE RADIO HERE IN THE USA AGAIN LIKE SHE USED TO BE IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS, AND IF NOT ON THE TOP 40 STATIONS THEN AT LEAST THE ADULT CONTEMPORARY STATIONS WHO USED TO PLAY HER MUSIC UP UNTIL ABOUT 9-10 YEARS AGO (WHEN I DROVE ALL NIGHT AND HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN LOVE WERE AROUND AND BEING PLAYED ON THE RADIO, THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I HAVE ANY CELINE SONGS PLAYED ON THE RADIO GOSH I MISS THE GOOD OLD DAYS SIGH)...

Edited February 13, 2014 at 08:16 PM by karebear82

February 13, 2014 at 08:43 PM

I feel truly sorry for those individuals who believe success is measured by money. Just because someone has earned lots of money doesn't make them successful.

February 13, 2014 at 08:44 PM

Which year exactly? Before or after she grossed $680m from touring? Come on, dear. It has been like a year since she sold a massive amount of French records.

Love you, hubby...but Rene had nothing to do with the sales of her concert. That was AEG/Concerts West for what they spent on promotion, and the fans buying the tickets

We just got our first real snow in yearssss! It's like 8 inches or so with ice on top of it now! I can't stay inside, I just keep going out and walking around in it lol! I just got back from an hour walk and check Facebook to see everyone complaining about being cold and I'm already wanting to go back out

If I lived where it snowed a lot though, I might be tired of it. Especially having to take dogs out every day!

I live in NYC, I think Mother Nature needs to take a nap until spring.

Do not call me "dear." It is condescending and rude. Second of all, just because she may have grossed a ton of money from a tour, doesn't mean she's successful. Exactly how many people in the U.S. know the song "Taking Chances" off hand? How many people know of "Loved Me Back To Life" (album or single, take your pick). How vocally horrible was the release of "A New Day...Live In Las Vegas." Explain to me again why "Goodbye's (The Saddest Word)" was selected as a single from "A New Day Has Come" when there were clearly other better choices? Explain to me why Celine practically ignores her fans' requests for songs to be performed live? (Doing one or two "fan favorites" like "Then You Look At Me" or "Tous les blues..." isn't going to ruin a show or her career.) Why is it Celine isn't "allowed" to perform "My Heart Will Go On" first in her current Vegas show? Oh yes, it's because Rene b***h-slapped her down on that one. Why was only one song from "D'elles" included in the "Taking Chances World Tour"? Why do the "hidden gems" she and Rene claim are on albums ("A Song For You," "Miles To Go (Before I Sleep)" always ignored after an album is recorded? So, yes, because of those reasons listed, I lost faith in Rene as her manager years ago.

Oh, and again, do NOT call me "dear" again. Thank you.

Look at the pot calling the kettle black. Calling someone else on here rude when pretty much every single post you make comes off either rude, or as if you are just a miserable human being. Funny coming from someone that claims to draw inspiration and hope for life through art. (Yes, I did my homework)

Now, Rene is not completely to blame for the state of Celine's career at the moment. Although, I have to say she's still a big name 30 years later, so he must have done something right. The state of Celine's popularity in 2014 is not measured by how her career is being managed by Rene. It's measured by the fact that she's just not popular anymore. She's not top 40, and probably won't ever be again. Why? Because the industry has changed. She's a woman over 40, she doesn't sing bubblegum pop, and she doesn't feature talentless hacks on her songs (which probably still wouldn't help all that much anyway). Celine's stance on the charts and her sales figures are undoubtedly because of piracy, and the fact that nobody buys albums anymore. Plain and simple. You pulled a handful of irrelevant facts to try and prove that Rene isn't doing his job. Here are a few bullet points for you...

"A New Day...Live In Las Vegas" maybe not her best vocal performance, but it was an album that they were contractually obligated through Sony to release. In every contract, Celine has a specific number of albums that she's supposed to release within however many years the contract is for. Now, in 2004 I believe she was coming towards the end of a contract, therefore running out of time to release the album. Also the fact that they were still planning on releasing the DVD of that very same concert, MONTHS after the CD release... until the editing was done and they scrapped the project altogether due to the fact that it didn't look or sound right. But a DVD release is a separate entity from album releases anyway.

The single choices of ANDHC album, why are we still harping on this? Yes, it was a fantastic comeback for Celine. It was fresh, and people missed her. She broke opening week sales for that year, but the album to Sony standards still under performed. The singles were not cracking the top 40, aside from ANDHC which peaked at 22, and then fell off the charts. AC was where she was being most welcomed, and the first 2 singles performed phenomenally on the AC charts. So, being that this was the case, they chose another AC friendly sounding song (GTSW) to release. Unfortunately it didn't pick up that well, but how many times has Celine had a third single do anything amazing in the US?

As for "hidden gems"..just because they may be beautiful songs, or classified as some of her best work, it doesn't mean that they are always going to be radio or performance friendly in a live venue. Plus, the mention of them being gems were in casual conversation during recording sessions. It's not like they went to the newspapers and the internet to make a big deal about these specific songs.

MHWGO, it's a song that people anticipate Celine to sing in her concerts. People wait for it. I speak mostly of casual fans when I'm saying this. There's a build up when you're excited to hear this song. You're waiting, waiting for the most exciting moment in the show. For most people, casual fans going to a Celine Dion concert, MHWGO would be that moment. Hence why it's the encore.

Fan favorites...TYLAM was rumored to have been in the show during creation..clearly cut for whatever reason. That's the director's choice, not Celine or Rene's. They hire these people to make the show successful. Have they done their job in doing so? Absolutely. We are not entitled to be catered to just because we buy her albums. She's a working woman, her shows are strategized to make money. End of story.

Taking Chances, the album performed well for an album that was released in 2007. It was one of the highest selling albums of the year. I'm not going to only credit that to die hard fans like us. In a year where illegal downloading was pretty much at it's peak, she managed to sell quite well. As for the single...it was 2007, and Celine Dion just WAS NOT POPULAR anymore. This seems to be a fact that so many people like to neglect. Do I want her to have a hit song again? It would be nice, but why should I base how I feel as a fan on such a trivial detail? She still makes good music, I still and will continue to enjoy it. As will many other people.

So, please...the next time you want to make a post with some real points, make some real points. Don't go off on someone and basically tell them they are wrong based on your own personal opinions about Rene, her shows, single choices etc. Those are your opinions, and I'm not taking them away from you. But to use your opinions against someone and tell them that they are wrong because you think your opinions are the ones that matter is rather rude. Hm..rude..does that word sound familiar? It should, because you are constantly rude to people on here.

Think about that the next time you post, dear.

Edited February 13, 2014 at 08:50 PM by CelinesDIVO5

February 13, 2014 at 09:05 PM

The ignore feature on the forum is truly a wonderful invention.

Anyway, back to the song "Incredible." I'm truly curious what role the giraffe is going to play in the upcoming music video.

February 13, 2014 at 09:08 PM

good point!

Amen. I still think this artwork for the cover...cheap. And indeed this is a duet. You cannot tell me that there are no pictures of the videoshoot. Enough material to make a attractive cover.

February 13, 2014 at 09:08 PM

I feel truly sorry for those individuals who believe success is measured by money. Just because someone has earned lots of money doesn't make them successful.

That is a poor manipulation. We were talking about whether Celine is a successful SINGER or not. In that sense, her sales and legacy are the only criterions. Your attempt to make this a personal conflict by saying you feel sorry for us is... ignored.

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