Céline under attack for using playback

[Celcool]

Why would a topic have to be closed because you don't agree with it? Stop reading it and it will be gone for you, let other people discuss. It would suck if this forum only welcomed one-sided discussion. I left "the other forum" because the admins were such tyrants.

 

Ok... ok... ok... I read the posts that came after my last post on here...

 

Right now my heart is thumping so hard, it feels like it's in my throat, and I feel like crying a little...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I63WOL-krb8

 

Watch from 2:30 on to at least 4:05 or so...

 

c'mon folks... she had some MAJOR issues with this opening number. Maybe some nerves because it's the opening number and she's already having playback issues with what she's used to lip synching to... but it's noticable that she's standing there ready to mime away, then realizes that nothing's happening and she HAS to actually SING LIVE for a little bit... she gets more nervous looking... by the time she's trying to walk up on the piano, she sounds actually AWFUL... ["...this fever for you was just burning me up inside..." WTF?!?!? YUK!!!] Then seconds later, at around 3:50/3:51, you can hear the sounds change, and her previously recorded live track from Vegas... [say around 5 years old?!?!?!] kicks in and the rest of the number sounds fine. It sounds just like AND..., but it sounds fine. LOL

 

It sucks that this happened, but it matches the topic of this thread 100%. Let a reporter be at a show when this happens, and it will be the opening to his review in the next day's paper.

 

This is yet one more reason why playback just isn't a good idea for so many numbers in a set list. It opens the possibility for so many errors, which will do nothing but 1) Make the show crappy, and 2) Make the singer even more nervous than he or she already is, thus making the rest of the show even crappier than it was in the first place for already using playback. Please don't mistake this as me saying the TC World Tour is crap, but we've all seen Celine and plenty of other singers using playback, and the second something goes wrong during that performance, we not only realize the singer isn't actually singing live, but feeling of negativity grow with respect to that performance.

 

Let's also remind ourselves that if Celine wanted to, she could mime the ENTIRE show with previously recorded live tracks and we'd be none the wiser. Rene probably has a deal with the Grevin Wax Museum and Honda to make a Celine-robot to be able to stand in for her during shows and mime to these tracks, while Celine kicks it in her hotel... LOL absurd, but anything is possible now. The world's best selling female artist of all time, one of the best live performers of our generation has incorporated lip-synching in at least 50% of her tour's set list. Anything is possible.

This is sad. Something else that's sad is that fans who don't approve of lipping get graded on their profiles with 1 star. How about some tolerance on this forum?

[pat200]

If i don't approve of her lipping doesn't mean i will stop loving her or being a fan. For God's sake i have over 85 of her albums, singles and dvd's and would buy anything she releases even if the whole album would be only aaaaahhhh ooooooooohhh, cause she has the damn best voice ever, and that is coming from someone who has followed vocalists from many languages, be it english, french, arabic, german, chinese, italian... and she has the best gift ever. I just would love to hear that gift more often when she is live on tour. But i would never want this story to get to the tabloids cause it would hurt her. some here are really making it like their purpose to let this be known everywhere, like some kind of revenge. that is not nice as i am against hurting others on purpose. but to discuss this is acceptable as long as we remain respectful to one another. Edited August 12, 2008 at 03:29 PM by pat200

[Prince Whiskers]

But I will let it go - thanks to all of you who shared their opinion, agreed with me, disagreed with me. It was great fun.

 

Bye to all of you.

 

How do you say in these therapy groups:

 

My name is Martin, I am an Ex-Celine-Fan.

Oh come back! You are one of the few who makes all this reasonable.

 

/fred

I think he's already said everything he wanted to say. Time for him to move on, I guess.

[ticktock]

i'd like to add my 2 cents as a regular fan of celine, i'm by no means a die hard fan at all but i do have nearly all of her albums & dvds and have seen her live 3 times, once in 96 and twice this year.

 

I realise that not every singer can perform a 2 hour concert where every song is live but i do feel that if you have roughly 40% of the songs being lipped then it's hardly a 'live' concert at all. This is just bad value for money and not very professional. Don't get me wrong , i know other singers are doing this too such as madonna , britney etc so if this story ever gets blown out of proportion by the media then they should also mention that the same practice is also adopted by many other singers.

 

But i find it insulting that they are still using a 14 year pre-recorded track for TPOL, that really takes the biscuit. Also what about Celine herself, i mean she goes out there performing the song knowing that it is a precorded track made 14 years old and she is doing it, no one's forcing her to do it. I don't get how a professional singer can do that without compunction or remorse!

 

If it were up to me, i would like for all concerts to have a caveat on their tickets notifying the buyer as to how much of the concert is actually lipped, the same goes for madonna, britney et al... Personally i feel it's unfair for other performers out there who give it their all. This would promote a fair standard that is transparent to all concert goers and would perhaps help to establish an acceptable percentage of a concert that can be lipped.

 

So to sum up, a little bit of lipping is fine with me but if it's more than 20% then that's just unprofessional and lazy. Also if you are going to lip some songs at least have the decency to keep the prerecorded tracks up to date so that you are reflecting the current standard of your voice.

Edited August 12, 2008 at 04:10 PM by ticktock

[Alex_Incognito]

Now hopefully people will calm down a little bit---onto the next end of the world...

[σνєяєχιѕтιиg ιи ℓιмвσ]

i dont care what people say......when charging almost £100 for a concert she should be singing live. period.

 

after seeing that i drove all night video and the well known fact she lipped POL and MHWGO etc etc, i will be THINKING TWICE about seeing her should she come over to the UK again. That upsets me because she is awesome and all the rest of it but the way the credit crunch is going, i doubt i will be able to justify spending that sort of money again on a concert where im listening to a cd.

[jacwar58]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I63WOL-krb8

 

Watch from 2:30 on to at least 4:05 or so...

 

 

It sucks that this happened, but it matches the topic of this thread 100%. Let a reporter be at a show when this happens, and it will be the opening to his review in the next day's paper.

 

 

I don't for one minute believe there weren't any members of the press in the audience at Vienna.

 

Due to the power of Youtube people are watching this clip and getting more worked up than the people who were actually in the audience at the time.

Bet most of the people in the actual audience were so hyped up and excited at seeing Celine they didn't even realise what was happening. I also bet the majority of the audience never realised she lips certain songs. I took 4 different people to her various UK concerts, none of whom had seen her before and they were none the wiser....still aren't unless they decide to join this forum!

 

In the grand scale of things, the number of people on this forum who are disappointed in her for lipping pale into insignificance when you consider how many people have seen her concerts.

 

Just my opinion, her lipping doesn't bother me.

[nuts2you]

I'm surprise we haven"t heard any thing from TEAM CELINE, OR FROM MAGNT YET.condersiding this tour starts today. Nothing from CELINE HERSELF.

[Jacqui]

Well, what exactly do you expect them to say about it? They don't want to make a statement saying she uses playback, because that would just cause more of a scandal, and they can't say she never uses it because that would be lying. So it's best if they say nothing, and hope this drama will somehow all go away.

 

Wow...It's sad to think she's lost fans over this. I guess in a way I can understand though, we probably all have things that would be "deal breakers" (for want of a better word!) for us. To me, the playback issue is annoying but fairly insignificant, however there are other things, that I could never forgive Celine if she did. Though I doubt those things will ever happen. I guess at some point we either have to love her enough that we find a reason to stay and the crappy stuff doesn't matter, or we look for closure, and leave. Hopefully with maturity- rather than trying to bring her down by alerting the press, as some people have done. Anyway that is life... And I wish you all well. I feel very analytical today or something, it's strange.

[Nmj]

lol this topic is just so great!!!

[Bralo20]

I'm surprise we haven"t heard any thing from TEAM CELINE, OR FROM MAGNT YET.condersiding this tour starts today. Nothing from CELINE HERSELF.

 

Like Jacqui allready stated they simply can't issue a statement on the lipsync deal... Although, that is what her management thinks...

 

I think that they think they have only 2 options:

 

 

1) Confirm that Céline has used lipsync

 

2) Deny that Céline has used lipsync

 

 

Neither one of those options is a good one. They can't confirm it since it would be a scandal. But they can't deny it either because she is using lipsync... So the only solution for them is to remain quied en hope that everything goes away...

 

 

However in my honest opinion they have a 3th option, and probably the only correct option:

 

I think they can actually issue a statement confirming that Céline is using lipsync without it would ruin her career. How they could do this? It's actually rather simpel.

 

At the begining of the statement they could announce that Céline is indeed using lipsync and that she will remain doing so during this tour. However, they can actually give a "solid" reason for doing so. They can take Céline's sickness at the start of the tour and state that it affected her voice and that doctors stated that she had to give her voice some rest to not ruin her voice further. They can say that they are sorry for not telling this in the media and are really regret this... But that it was done just for the healthness of Céline. Also state that she won't use lipsync again in the near future, bla bla bla...

 

When this is written in a decend statement (add some sugar to it) it can actually work and then the issue will actually fade away...

 

 

But I don't think this will happen soon

 

 

 

How about the concert yesterday? Any news about the use of lipsync?

[Prince Whiskers]

Well, what exactly do you expect them to say about it? They don't want to make a statement saying she uses playback, because that would just cause more of a scandal, and they can't say she never uses it because that would be lying. So it's best if they say nothing, and hope this drama will somehow all go away.

 

Wow...It's sad to think she's lost fans over this. I guess in a way I can understand though, we probably all have things that would be "deal breakers" (for want of a better word!) for us. To me, the playback issue is annoying but fairly insignificant, however there are other things, that I could never forgive Celine if she did. Though I doubt those things will ever happen. I guess at some point we either have to love her enough that we find a reason to stay and the crappy stuff doesn't matter, or we look for closure, and leave. Hopefully with maturity- rather than trying to bring her down by alerting the press, as some people have done. Anyway that is life... And I wish you all well. I feel very analytical today or something, it's strange.

Nicely put, Jacqui.

[smw]

Well, what exactly do you expect them to say about it? They don't want to make a statement saying she uses playback, because that would just cause more of a scandal, and they can't say she never uses it because that would be lying. So it's best if they say nothing, and hope this drama will somehow all go away.

 

Wow...It's sad to think she's lost fans over this. I guess in a way I can understand though, we probably all have things that would be "deal breakers" (for want of a better word!) for us. To me, the playback issue is annoying but fairly insignificant, however there are other things, that I could never forgive Celine if she did. Though I doubt those things will ever happen. I guess at some point we either have to love her enough that we find a reason to stay and the crappy stuff doesn't matter, or we look for closure, and leave. Hopefully with maturity- rather than trying to bring her down by alerting the press, as some people have done. Anyway that is life... And I wish you all well. I feel very analytical today or something, it's strange.

Nicely put, Jacqui.

 

I agree.

[CelineFanInSoCal]

So all this being said, there's obviously a few different points of view. Only natural. But what I don't get is how some folks just accept it and move on.

 

An orchestra performs live, and not to "pre-recorded tracks".

Soccer players perform live, and not to "pre-recorded videos".

New anchors report the new live, and not to "pre-recorded videos".

Painters start from scratch, and don't use "pre-painted canvases".

Chefs cook from scratch, and don't cook with "pre-made foods".

Actors recite their lines on stage live, and not to "pre-recorded lines".

Dancers move their bodies live, and not to "pre-recorded video".

Olympic Athletes perform live, and not to "pre-recorded video".

 

Celine's HEAVY use of "pre-recorded live tracks" is misrepresentation to the public. I understand the need for a few vocal breaks during a show, but c'mon... does she need to rest for 50% of the show? What gives?!

 

If any of the other types of "performers" I mentioned above were exposed in their respective fields for using "additives", or performance enhancing drugs or the like, it would be all over the news. Wake up folks! She's not just lip-synching a couple songs here and there, she's miming half of a LIVE concert, where she's touring around the world, representing herself to millions of fans, and she's standing there miming to tracks that were originally recorded YEARS ago. She is misleading the ticket buying public who assume that since they're buying tickets to a concert that they will be experiencing a live performance. The stadiums are filled with folks who aren't getting a live performance. They're getting Celine pretending to be singing to previous live performances from anywhere from a year old, to 5 years old, to almost 15 years old. This is NOT standard practice for any live performer.

 

Furthermore, just as Sopha has alluded to, her current "stage presence" is almost fake. Her "falling to the ground" after ABM is embarrassing. Her pseudo-tears during and after "My Love" is borderline ludicrous. She lacks passion and enthusiasm during her shows, partly because she's not getting into the music anymore, or she just CAN'T get into it, because she's NOT SINGING. No wonder she looks bored on stage half the time. How boring would it be for any of us to pretend to be doing what we've told everyone else is our most favorite thing to do. Her live shows obviously aren't her favorite thing to do. The stage isn't where she feels at home anymore. I feel for her, having to tour the world and pretend to sing each night, potentially wishing she were at home with her family.

 

These past few performances that we've all been watching on youtube lately have shed light on to what we've all been wondering about her performances. This isn't the same Celine from 1996. Now it seems to be less about her passion for singing and more about money. They're only going to be able to keep these lies up for so long. I used to be so excited to see her on stage and have live show tapes and DVDs, to see just how passionate about signing she was. But now all I'm left with is a show that's half mimed and looking to the future for the DVD of this tour which will also be half mimed. I guess I'm stuck with albums to get a feel for when she was kinda into singing the song.

[Szilvi79]

I think,for her is the whole situation as a singer and as a wife/mother today very complicated. We can't wishes back anymore the enthusiastic Céline from 96. The 90s was other times. The playback issue today is for her maybe the one solution, this tour to making. (although i know, she had in the past LTAL-Tour and FIY-Tour also lypsincing) She can't sing with her heart and real feelings the older Songs anymore. I think she will this tour yet to the end bringing, then René is later perhaps to old for touring and Céline wouldn't without René touring. And yes they will make big money with this tour. I hope that Céline make after the "Mega-Worldtour" a long break.

Sorry for my english, isn't my native language

Edited August 13, 2008 at 10:37 PM by Szilvi79

[Celinex]

Calm down. Nothing so disastrous won't happen. Everybody lips these days + she isn't lipping the whole concert. This might be consider as a vocal rest during the concert. I guess if she lips these songs she needs 2-3 minutes to rest her voice. It's not easy to sing 2 hours non-stop. This is like Mariah's accident on ''Good Morning America''. All televisions reported that and after that everybody forgot it. It's not that deep.

 

Hi.I'm also a Kylie Minogue fan as well as a fan of Celine Dion and I can assure you that Kylie never mimes during a live concert.Even back in 1989 when she did her first live show's she never mimed.I have been going to Kylie concerts since 1991 and she has never mimed in concert.Kylie's recent tour was 2 hours and 20 minutes and she never mimed once.

[Nikosn17]

Calm down. Nothing so disastrous won't happen. Everybody lips these days + she isn't lipping the whole concert. This might be consider as a vocal rest during the concert. I guess if she lips these songs she needs 2-3 minutes to rest her voice. It's not easy to sing 2 hours non-stop. This is like Mariah's accident on ''Good Morning America''. All televisions reported that and after that everybody forgot it. It's not that deep.

 

Hi.I'm also a Kylie Minogue fan as well as a fan of Celine Dion and I can assure you that Kylie never mimes during a live concert.Even back in 1989 when she did her first live show's she never mimed.I have been going to Kylie concerts since 1991 and she has never mimed in concert.Kylie's recent tour was 2 hours and 20 minutes and she never mimed once.

 

I'm not a fan of Kylie...

[Salitpong]

Everybody knows tht people's been hornoring her by calling her the DIVA which to me it means a female singer who gives the breathtaking live performance by singing her geart out who has the elegance look and is the queen of the stage whenever they are on,that's how wonderful and grand that this word is really means......... but right now there're so many of them that are called by this word stop what they're supposed to do on the stge and still being called the DIVA which is sad(Mariah Carey is the very good example!).I love Celine Dion so much for more than 10 years not any diffrent from any of you in this webbord.I also flew from Thailand across this planet to see Celine Dion twice in concert,the first time during the A New Day and the second time was during the Taking Chances Tour but Can you believe that so many of us who's doing this kind of thing and maybe more often than me has never heard her signature song like My Heart Will Go On live! Isn't that kind of dissapoint.............

Somepeople might say that it's a part of bussiness.Everybody is using the prerecord these day to give the perfect performance but can you really use this standard with someone like Celine Dion or Mariah Carey who's being know that they're the DIVA, the Voice of generation and now they're using the pre record for half of their show. Remember people is falling in love with them because of their voice not there look,not their outfit and obiviously we DON'T go to their show because of how big their show is............I believe that even with 1 spotlight in the cheap night club someone like Celine Dion or Mariah Carey can light up the room by singing with their VOICE only!How come the DIVA is still the DIVA if they're not SINGING!

Yes,Celine Dion you might say that you don't wanna be the diva but you can't refuse the fact that you enter to this bussiness because you wanted to sing for the people of the world and to be able to get in to this bussiness is because you can sing not because you were pretty back then! and that's how you are loved by the people,your singing only that made made miracle happen in your life not your look and not even how big your show is..........Remember? they came to hear you sing in your parents small restaurant when you were young...........

I post this because I hope that if everybody who's agree with me dare to stand out and say what we think and help eachother post this in the internet or her website.May be if she accidently see the message by herself she might come back and do what's she supposed to do or if she's not gonna change anything.I'd rather to stop being her fans and if she doesn't find that to be in this bussiness I hope that she will considered of walk out of this bussiness and has her normal life that she will be more happy better than keep staying in this bussiness and people loose their faith in her.........

Celine,I want you to know that I love you so much and because of you made me took voice lessons but I'm not BLIND!!!

[rta]

So all this being said, there's obviously a few different points of view. Only natural. But what I don't get is how some folks just accept it and move on.

 

An orchestra performs live, and not to "pre-recorded tracks".

Soccer players perform live, and not to "pre-recorded videos".

New anchors report the new live, and not to "pre-recorded videos".

Painters start from scratch, and don't use "pre-painted canvases".

Chefs cook from scratch, and don't cook with "pre-made foods".

Actors recite their lines on stage live, and not to "pre-recorded lines".

Dancers move their bodies live, and not to "pre-recorded video".

Olympic Athletes perform live, and not to "pre-recorded video".

 

Celine's HEAVY use of "pre-recorded live tracks" is misrepresentation to the public. I understand the need for a few vocal breaks during a show, but c'mon... does she need to rest for 50% of the show? What gives?!

 

If any of the other types of "performers" I mentioned above were exposed in their respective fields for using "additives", or performance enhancing drugs or the like, it would be all over the news. Wake up folks! She's not just lip-synching a couple songs here and there, she's miming half of a LIVE concert, where she's touring around the world, representing herself to millions of fans, and she's standing there miming to tracks that were originally recorded YEARS ago. She is misleading the ticket buying public who assume that since they're buying tickets to a concert that they will be experiencing a live performance. The stadiums are filled with folks who aren't getting a live performance. They're getting Celine pretending to be singing to previous live performances from anywhere from a year old, to 5 years old, to almost 15 years old. This is NOT standard practice for any live performer.

 

Furthermore, just as Sopha has alluded to, her current "stage presence" is almost fake. Her "falling to the ground" after ABM is embarrassing. Her pseudo-tears during and after "My Love" is borderline ludicrous. She lacks passion and enthusiasm during her shows, partly because she's not getting into the music anymore, or she just CAN'T get into it, because she's NOT SINGING. No wonder she looks bored on stage half the time. How boring would it be for any of us to pretend to be doing what we've told everyone else is our most favorite thing to do. Her live shows obviously aren't her favorite thing to do. The stage isn't where she feels at home anymore. I feel for her, having to tour the world and pretend to sing each night, potentially wishing she were at home with her family.

 

These past few performances that we've all been watching on youtube lately have shed light on to what we've all been wondering about her performances. This isn't the same Celine from 1996. Now it seems to be less about her passion for singing and more about money. They're only going to be able to keep these lies up for so long. I used to be so excited to see her on stage and have live show tapes and DVDs, to see just how passionate about signing she was. But now all I'm left with is a show that's half mimed and looking to the future for the DVD of this tour which will also be half mimed. I guess I'm stuck with albums to get a feel for when she was kinda into singing the song.

 

Well, if it is true that she lips that much, then I must agree with this.

[Celinex]

Why would a topic have to be closed because you don't agree with it? Stop reading it and it will be gone for you, let other people discuss. It would suck if this forum only welcomed one-sided discussion. I left "the other forum" because the admins were such tyrants.

 

Ok... ok... ok... I read the posts that came after my last post on here...

 

Right now my heart is thumping so hard, it feels like it's in my throat, and I feel like crying a little...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I63WOL-krb8

 

Watch from 2:30 on to at least 4:05 or so...

 

c'mon folks... she had some MAJOR issues with this opening number. Maybe some nerves because it's the opening number and she's already having playback issues with what she's used to lip synching to... but it's noticable that she's standing there ready to mime away, then realizes that nothing's happening and she HAS to actually SING LIVE for a little bit... she gets more nervous looking... by the time she's trying to walk up on the piano, she sounds actually AWFUL... ["...this fever for you was just burning me up inside..." WTF?!?!? YUK!!!] Then seconds later, at around 3:50/3:51, you can hear the sounds change, and her previously recorded live track from Vegas... [say around 5 years old?!?!?!] kicks in and the rest of the number sounds fine. It sounds just like AND..., but it sounds fine. LOL

 

It sucks that this happened, but it matches the topic of this thread 100%. Let a reporter be at a show when this happens, and it will be the opening to his review in the next day's paper.

 

This is yet one more reason why playback just isn't a good idea for so many numbers in a set list. It opens the possibility for so many errors, which will do nothing but 1) Make the show crappy, and 2) Make the singer even more nervous than he or she already is, thus making the rest of the show even crappier than it was in the first place for already using playback. Please don't mistake this as me saying the TC World Tour is crap, but we've all seen Celine and plenty of other singers using playback, and the second something goes wrong during that performance, we not only realize the singer isn't actually singing live, but feeling of negativity grow with respect to that performance.

 

Let's also remind ourselves that if Celine wanted to, she could mime the ENTIRE show with previously recorded live tracks and we'd be none the wiser. Rene probably has a deal with the Grevin Wax Museum and Honda to make a Celine-robot to be able to stand in for her during shows and mime to these tracks, while Celine kicks it in her hotel... LOL absurd, but anything is possible now. The world's best selling female artist of all time, one of the best live performers of our generation has incorporated lip-synching in at least 50% of her tour's set list. Anything is possible.

This is sad. Something else that's sad is that fans who don't approve of lipping get graded on their profiles with 1 star. How about some tolerance on this forum?

 

Hi.I have just watched the video and you can clearly tell that from the start of the song it's live as she dosen't hit the high notes and then from

4.05 it does indeed go back to the live track from Vegas.It's a shame that she feels the need to lip when we know she can sing live.I wouldn't be very impressed if I paid money to go and see her in concert and the show was half mimed.At least with Kylie you pay £49.00 and sings live for all of the show.

[lyn]

Hm I guess having read all.. or at least some of these entries I'm more skeptical about my upcoming concert. It's a waste to hear she potentially lips such a large portion of her show because there are some songs that I would just really love, love to hear her sing live. Obviously a reason why I bought tickets to the show. I'd love to hear her do That's just the woman in me live.. but at the same time knowing what she's said about how poorly and harmfully that handles on the vocal chords, I don't expect her to undergo that every evening. Granted for someone whose singing career has, self proclaimed, taken a backseat, I'll accept that she just doesn't have the vocal prowess and health anymore to sing crazy notes every night.

 

Still, much like roberry.. I don't much excuse her for shying out of her art form and giving a substandard shadow of what essentially is a live art. Yet I grant that the woman's earned enough money, done enough time, put in enough as a God-honest true to the word artist back in the day that if she's gotten self satisfied enough and gotten sick of her art then fine, she is by all means at liberty to. But like people said, we paid good money to watch her and there must at least be some sort of pay off when we see her, for the years that we've put into supporting her career.. and she should respect us enough to put on a live show, or try that bit much harder than she has.

 

That said, hey, I'm a low standard fan. I've seen her rarely enough in my life that all I need for her to do to make my 166 dollars worth it is for her to stand in the same 1 mile radius of me and say "good evening my name is Celine Dion, i will now proceed to lip synch my entire concert." I've seen her in Vegas where undoubtedly she must've lipped something but I, in the moment, was never the wiser. What I pay for is probably less about her singing and more to do with the ability to whoop and cheer and hyperventilate like a rabid fan blessed to be watching her do just about anything in front of me, including faking it.

[jacwar58]

I've seen her in Vegas where undoubtedly she must've lipped something but I, in the moment, was never the wiser. What I pay for is probably less about her singing and more to do with the ability to whoop and cheer and hyperventilate like a rabid fan blessed to be watching her do just about anything in front of me, including faking it.

 

 

You've got it in one!

 

Just go and enjoy yourself and get carried away with the atmosphere as a whole, that's what I did and thousands of others have in ignorant bliss.

[WendyB]

I've seen her in Vegas where undoubtedly she must've lipped something but I, in the moment, was never the wiser. What I pay for is probably less about her singing and more to do with the ability to whoop and cheer and hyperventilate like a rabid fan blessed to be watching her do just about anything in front of me, including faking it.

 

 

You've got it in one!

 

Just go and enjoy yourself and get carried away with the atmosphere as a whole, that's what I did and thousands of others have in ignorant bliss.

Me too - and I'll be doing it again in New York in a few weeks

[jacwar58]

I've seen her in Vegas where undoubtedly she must've lipped something but I, in the moment, was never the wiser. What I pay for is probably less about her singing and more to do with the ability to whoop and cheer and hyperventilate like a rabid fan blessed to be watching her do just about anything in front of me, including faking it.

 

 

You've got it in one!

 

Just go and enjoy yourself and get carried away with the atmosphere as a whole, that's what I did and thousands of others have in ignorant bliss.

Me too - and I'll be doing it again in New York in a few weeks

 

I wish I could be there too as it's my birthday but I'll be 'slumming' it on an island in the Maldives.

 

Hard job but someone's got to do it!

Edited August 14, 2008 at 04:15 PM by jacwar58

[Shamrock_1982]

Me too - and I'll be doing it again in New York in a few weeks

 

Im so friggin jelous miss wendy!!! lol.

 

Darren.

[takeachance]

I would not see a comparison between Kylie Minogue and Celine Dion. Kylie songs easier to sing she does not need to hold major long notes like Celine or belt out really high notes all the time. Cant get you outa my head is alot handier to sing than many of Celines songs . Kylie has no song like ALL BY MYSELF she must sing everynight

[Celinex]

I would not see a comparison between Kylie Minogue and Celine Dion. Kylie songs easier to sing she does not need to hold major long notes like Celine or belt out really high notes all the time. Cant get you outa my head is alot handier to sing than many of Celines songs . Kylie has no song like ALL BY MYSELF she must sing everynight

 

She did sing high notes in alot of her songs on the new tour that she just did.I will upload a video of Kylie singing the Crying Game medley from the Fever 2002 tour that she did and she does hold the high notes perfect.You can't nock Kylie for not singing live on tour as she does sing live every night.

[Davey84]

I would not see a comparison between Kylie Minogue and Celine Dion. Kylie songs easier to sing she does not need to hold major long notes like Celine or belt out really high notes all the time. Cant get you outa my head is alot handier to sing than many of Celines songs . Kylie has no song like ALL BY MYSELF she must sing everynight

 

 

true... especially on the word must. I say: remove most of the 'demanding' songs and let her sing 'easier' songs like Surprise, Surprise, This Time, RNTTRO even, or FIY....

[Celinex]

Here is the video from Kylie's 2002 Fever tour.It's from the live webcast that they did on the night.

 

http://www.sendspace.com/file/g8bzhp

[celine.dion]

It's sad but its. I did'nt believe it until i saw with my very own eyes. At Krakow (28/6/08) she definately lipsynced "I Drove All Night" , "The Power of Love" (after the first chorus) , "To Love You More" and MHWGO i think.

 

I dont understand why this happens. If she cannot hit these high notes anymore then why does she not change her songlist or lower the key. (of course im not blaming celine). In youtube i saw a live version of I Drove All Night at Early SHow or smthng the key was lowered but still the performance was amazing!