Madonna: Official Topic

[Davey84]

wow chill!! ur numbers are all wrong.

 

1st, soundscan numbers are very up to date. it is riaa that needs to update celine's certifications

 

2nd, celine is at 175 mill albums and max 45 mill singles, how in God's name did she get to 370 mill?

 

3rd, madonna IS the biggest selling female artist

 

4th, please don't send the organization any email with ur fake numbers, we don't want them to think that all celine fans are delusional. let us keep that honor to the lambs.

 

I found this at a fan's blog:

 

De 1981 à 2010 Celine Dion a vendu :

 

ALBUMS + LIVES + COMPILATIONS/BEST OF : 167.532.000.

 

SINGLES : 38.467.000

 

DVDS/VIDEOS : 3.140.000

 

TOTAL : 209.139.000

 

I think these numbers are realistic!

Edited August 7, 2010 at 03:31 PM by Davey84

[trls]

So is it true she's the best selling female artist now? According to wikipedia, she sold over 300 million records, that's more than Celine. So that would make Celine number 2 then.

[Davey84]

http://images2-telegraaf.nl/multimedia/archive/00748/madonna1_748058d.jpg

 

http://images2-telegraaf.nl/multimedia/archive/00748/madonna2_748059d.jpg

 

 

It says scary!

[Frida]

"My" concert was a year ago yesterday, time flies... Think I'm gonna watch the BD tonight

[Bellamy]

http://img1.gtimg.com/ent/pics/hv1/235/224/596/38812255.jpg

[Davey84]

what make-up can do...

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/14/article-1303218-0ACC7F93000005DC-61_468x932.jpg

 

Madonna looking gorgeous @ her 52nd birthday party!

 

 

I think this Ray Of Light hairstyle is the best on her

Edited August 15, 2010 at 10:27 AM by Davey84

[xXMaterial_boyXx]

ok she's not so beautiful when she don't have make up.. but are you obligate to be bad and say this is scary ?

[xXMaterial_boyXx]

ok she's not so beautiful when she don't have make up.. but are you obligate to be bad and say this is scary ?

 

*the must beautiful...

[Matias]

From PerezHilton.com

 

THIS COULD BE HEAVY COMPETITON TO CELINE!!! I HOPE IS NOT TRUE....Wait until you read how much want they pay her!!! INSANE

 

 

This could be incredible!!

 

First, it was Celine Dion, then Elton John and Cher, and now…

 

Madonna??

 

According to reports, Madonna has been offered $1 billion for a five-year residency in Las Vegas.

 

If she takes the deal, it would make her the world's third female billionaire entertainer, just behind Oprah.

 

We think it's unlikely that Madonna will sign the contract, especially since her reps are keeping quiet on the rumors, but we're secretly hoping it's true!!

 

If this actually happens, we'll be there opening night with bells and whistles on!

[xXMaterial_boyXx]

She have a 10 years contract with live Nation for 3 album and 4 tours so I don't think so

[ThisTime]

Is Perez the only source for this?

Cause he's just so credible.

[xXMaterial_boyXx]

Is Perez the only source for this?

Cause he's just so credible.

 

no the website IUC world exclusive

[Koolan]

I admit I wasn't in the best of moods yesterday and thinking straight when I decided to post in this topic. Therefore, I've deleted some posts to keep the topic more friendly.

[Frida]

I admit I wasn't in the best of moods yesterday and thinking straight when I decided to post in this topic. Therefore, I've deleted some posts to keep the topic more friendly.

 

I must say I didn't recognize "you" in those posts, thought "what the beep is happening to Vic?"

 

 

 

I don't doubt Madonna's popularity, but I have a hard time imagining her in Vegas fulltime

[mirage]

dont know if it's true, according to some dutch fans this is a repeated article from a few months/years back...

[RomualdlovesCeline]

 

Even with her make-up on, you can still see her saggy cheeks. She cannot hide her age anymore she's 50!! At least she isn't making music anymore she's preparing herself to retire...

 

Edit: her legs are SURELY granny's legs..

Edited August 22, 2010 at 05:04 PM by RomualdlovesCeline

[Koolan]

I admit I wasn't in the best of moods yesterday and thinking straight when I decided to post in this topic. Therefore, I've deleted some posts to keep the topic more friendly.

 

I must say I didn't recognize "you" in those posts, thought "what the beep is happening to Vic?"

 

 

 

I don't doubt Madonna's popularity, but I have a hard time imagining her in Vegas fulltime

That was my twin doing all the typing.

[Bellamy]

 

Even with her make-up on, you can still see her saggy cheeks. She cannot hide her age anymore she's 50!! At least she isn't making music anymore she's preparing herself to retire...

 

Edit: her legs are SURELY granny's legs..

And her scary arms and hands.

 

Some reports said she spent $200K on botox and other things before her birthday party.

[Koolan]

which reminds me, I bought her Ray of Light album.

[Frida]

That was my twin doing all the typing.

 

Hahaha, I don't know why but it made me think of

 

 

Anyway, sorry, didn't mean to go OT

[Koolan]

rofl, I was gonna write evil twin instead.

[Lymon]

 

Even with her make-up on, you can still see her saggy cheeks. She cannot hide her age anymore she's 50!! At least she isn't making music anymore she's preparing herself to retire...

 

Edit: her legs are SURELY granny's legs..

 

I think she looks great there and that she still looks great. Not sure why she hasn't opted to do some hand fillers since she's surely has no problems with plastic surgery.

 

She's pretty much always had "granny" hands, it's just now they're worse.

[Bralo20]

dont know if it's true, according to some dutch fans this is a repeated article from a few months/years back...

 

 

The news was published also today also in the Belgian newspapers. Though no details regarding the venue and promotor are disclosed it was revealed that Madonna was offered 1 billion USD (735 million EUR) for a 5-year contract in Las Vegas.

 

An article from MTV UK:

 

Madonna’s $1 Billion Payday

And she’s being sued over her Material Girl clothing range...

12:30, Saturday, 21 August 2010

 

Madonna has been offered $1 billion for a five-year Las Vegas residency, according to reports.

 

The Hung Up singer could follow the footsteps of acts such as Celine Dion and Cher who relocated to the gambling capital of America to performing nightly shows at Caesars Palace. Celine’s five-year residency drew nearly three million people to 717 performances, but it’s thought Madge would surpass that.

 

If the deal goes ahead, Madonna would become the third highest paid female entertainer in the world, behind Oprah Winfrey and American homemaking entrepreneur Martha Stewart. And she may just need the extra cash – the superstar is being sued over her new Material Girl fashion range.

 

Clothing company LA Triumph has claimed it has been using the Material Girl name for the last 13 years and wants the superstar to desist trading and turn over all the profits she has already made from the line.

 

In a lawsuit filed this week, LA Triumph stated it had been “continually selling similar clothes in similar retail outlets at similar prices under the Material Girl brand since at least 1997... Madonna and her newfound company do not have the right to trade in the same space under this brand.”

 

The star’s Material Girl fashion range launched in June; the campaign is fronted by Gossip Girl star and The Pretty Reckless singer Taylor Momsen and is available in US department store Macy’s.

 

 

I wonder if she is negotiating with Harrah's Entertainment or if she's talking with MGM Resorts International instead... Though MGM and the other companies attracted also big names to Las Vegas it was always Harrah's that managed to get the topartists to sign multiple year contracts. I guess it could be MGM this time that is offering "a deal that noone can refuse" to start competing with Harrah's...

[Bellamy]

But her contract with Live Nation is not ending yet. And how how can they offer $1 billion dollars to her? A 5 years sold out show like AND only get no more than $500million. Unless they want her perform in a big stadium, then it will be a problem to fill all the seats every night.

[Bralo20]

But her contract with Live Nation is not ending yet. And how how can they offer $1 billion dollars to her? A 5 years sold out show like AND only get no more than $500million. Unless they want her perform in a big stadium, then it will be a problem to fill all the seats every night.

 

The contract with Live Nation doesn't have to be ended, they can be part of the deal.

 

1 Billion USD seems to be indeed a huge amount for an offer and when we take the AND show as example, this means that a Madonna show has to average a seatcost of 350 USD during 717 shows over 5 years. This means that the cheapest seats will be arround 160 USD and the most expensive arround 500 USD (or more). While this is possible for a limited amount of shows I don't think it can succeed during 5 years, maybe not even a year.... And even so, this means that only Madonna and her staff will be paid, not including the venue itself.

 

However... A venue like the Collosseum doesn't need to generate profits out of it's shows, the profit will come from other thinks like hotelrooms, gambling, shopping, etc... even sponsorships... If we take Harrah's and MGM of example then we see that both have decent amount of casino's (actually I think they both own nearly half of the strip), shops, restaurants, etc... in their portfolio so when one is staying in one of the properties the chances are rather high that he of she will end up in one of the properties owned by the companies... And while a venue like the Collosseum has a capacity of 4.000 people the combined capacity of Harrah's hotels, casino's, etc... is much higher and thus every single casino/hotel/restaurant/shop/... visitor will be paying a portion of the contract...

 

Céline Dion may be one of the best artists of the world, I'm pretty sure that this second tour of her in Vegas won't be selling as hard as the first tour (there is even still availability for the openingshow)... We've seen Céline, Cher, Bette Midler even Elton John stayed in Vegas... And now Céline is back and maybe she isn't selling like they expected her to sell...

 

A lot of big names have performed in Vegas, Céline was the first topartist to sign a multiyear and multimillion dollar contract, she opened the path for others to follow... Nearly every biggest artist in this world has performed in Vegas but what one hasn't seen is that World's best selling artist will perform during 5 years in 1 specific place... Offering Madonna a 1 billion dollar contract can create billions of revenue through gambling, shopping, entertainment, restaurants and multiple other ways...

 

It's called an well thought investement...

 

 

Actually, while I don't like Madonna's music as much as Céline's music, Madonna is the best selling artist in the world, she has her own group of fans, fans that are also known to spend money to see her perform. I'm pretty sure that a 5 year contract will generate loads of revenue, not necessarly by the show itself (which will be probably a loss making operation from the start on) but through other channels And not only for Harrah's (or MGM?) but for whole Las Vegas... You have to admit, even if you "hate" Madonna, she's top class artist and it's a huge name...

[RomualdlovesCeline]

Actually, while I don't like Madonna's music as much as Céline's music, Madonna is the best selling artist in the world, she has her own group of fans, fans that are also known to spend money to see her perform. I'm pretty sure that a 5 year contract will generate loads of revenue, not necessarly by the show itself (which will be probably a loss making operation from the start on) but through other channels And not only for Harrah's (or MGM?) but for whole Las Vegas... You have to admit, even if you "hate" Madonna, she's top class artist and it's a huge name...

 

Madonna had the most successful tour; however, are her fans willing to pay money to go see her in Las Vegas? The same amount of money was offered to Barbra Streisand, but Barbra refused the deal that's how Celine got re-involved with LV show; however, I would see people paying money to see Barbra or Celine performing in LV; but I cannot picture people spending money to go see Madonna... Her tour is more of pure entertainment and nothing exceptional whereas Celine and Barbra have a distinct voice which is worth the money.

[Bralo20]

Madonna had the most successful tour; however, are her fans willing to pay money to go see her in Las Vegas? The same amount of money was offered to Barbra Streisand, but Barbra refused the deal that's how Celine got re-involved with LV show; however, I would see people paying money to see Barbra or Celine performing in LV; but I cannot picture people spending money to go see Madonna... Her tour is more of pure entertainment and nothing exceptional whereas Celine and Barbra have a distinct voice which is worth the money.

 

I think people are willing to pay to see her in Vegas, yes... Not only her fans but others also.

 

Let's take myself as an example. I have in my whole live never visited a Madonna concert, even not this year when she came to Belgium and when I had free VIP tickets from one of my suppliers. I like her music but I didn't had the need to see her perform here in my own country, this contrary to Céline Dion which I saw performing in Antwerp (and Arras, France) 2 years ago (but that was smaller, in a all seating venue).

 

However, if the day comes that Madonna is indeed going to perform in Vegas I'll be more then happy to travel to Vegas and see a show of her no matter how much tickets will cost. This may seem odd but it actually isn't... I don't like mass performances with tens of thousands and certainly not in open air. I like a smaller venue with comfortable seats where I can enjoy the music to the fullest, where there aren't people jumping, singing, dancing... And if this means that I have to fly for that to the other side of the world I'm more then happy to comply... I love flying, I love travel, I love music and I do love Las Vegas... If I can combine several things like seeing a Madonna show, taking a plane and fly for over 13 hours, staying at luxurious hotels, doing some site seeing and gamble a bit I'll be more then happy to fly to Las Vegas to see a Madonna show, just like I will fly to Las Vegas to see Céline Dion and just like I did last year and flew to Las Vegas to see Santana perform...

 

And there are a lot of people willing to travel to see an artist perform in a more intimite venue... And combine multiple pleasures...

 

And you can't forget the regular visitors of Las Vegas, the tourists, the gamblers, the spouses of gamblers, etc... A lot of the visitors in Vegas, wetter they are a tourist, resident or gambler will end up seeing a show. And you can bet on it that if a show is available with the performer called "Madonna" a huge load of people will visit that particular show... Only a limited amount of people is capable to attract a big audience to a long running show in one place. Céline is one of them and Madonna certainly is also one of them...

 

If this goes through I say it will be a big hit, unfortunately for Céline a hit that will place Céline in the shadow of Madonna in Vegas...

[xXMaterial_boyXx]

Madonna had the most successful tour; however, are her fans willing to pay money to go see her in Las Vegas? The same amount of money was offered to Barbra Streisand, but Barbra refused the deal that's how Celine got re-involved with LV show; however, I would see people paying money to see Barbra or Celine performing in LV; but I cannot picture people spending money to go see Madonna... Her tour is more of pure entertainment and nothing exceptional whereas Celine and Barbra have a distinct voice which is worth the money.

 

I think people are willing to pay to see her in Vegas, yes... Not only her fans but others also.

 

Let's take myself as an example. I have in my whole live never visited a Madonna concert, even not this year when she came to Belgium and when I had free VIP tickets from one of my suppliers. I like her music but I didn't had the need to see her perform here in my own country, this contrary to Céline Dion which I saw performing in Antwerp (and Arras, France) 2 years ago (but that was smaller, in a all seating venue).

 

However, if the day comes that Madonna is indeed going to perform in Vegas I'll be more then happy to travel to Vegas and see a show of her no matter how much tickets will cost. This may seem odd but it actually isn't... I don't like mass performances with tens of thousands and certainly not in open air. I like a smaller venue with comfortable seats where I can enjoy the music to the fullest, where there aren't people jumping, singing, dancing... And if this means that I have to fly for that to the other side of the world I'm more then happy to comply... I love flying, I love travel, I love music and I do love Las Vegas... If I can combine several things like seeing a Madonna show, taking a plane and fly for over 13 hours, staying at luxurious hotels, doing some site seeing and gamble a bit I'll be more then happy to fly to Las Vegas to see a Madonna show, just like I will fly to Las Vegas to see Céline Dion and just like I did last year and flew to Las Vegas to see Santana perform...

 

And there are a lot of people willing to travel to see an artist perform in a more intimite venue... And combine multiple pleasures...

 

And you can't forget the regular visitors of Las Vegas, the tourists, the gamblers, the spouses of gamblers, etc... A lot of the visitors in Vegas, wetter they are a tourist, resident or gambler will end up seeing a show. And you can bet on it that if a show is available with the performer called "Madonna" a huge load of people will visit that particular show... Only a limited amount of people is capable to attract a big audience to a long running show in one place. Céline is one of them and Madonna certainly is also one of them...

 

If this goes through I say it will be a big hit, unfortunately for Céline a hit that will place Céline in the shadow of Madonna in Vegas...

T Agree With you.. even me If Celine do Vegas an other time I'm gonna buy some ticket too see her !

[RomualdlovesCeline]

However, if the day comes that Madonna is indeed going to perform in Vegas I'll be more then happy to travel to Vegas and see a show of her no matter how much tickets will cost. This may seem odd but it actually isn't... I don't like mass performances with tens of thousands and certainly not in open air. I like a smaller venue with comfortable seats where I can enjoy the music to the fullest, where there aren't people jumping, singing, dancing... And if this means that I have to fly for that to the other side of the world I'm more then happy to comply... I love flying, I love travel, I love music and I do love Las Vegas... If I can combine several things like seeing a Madonna show, taking a plane and fly for over 13 hours, staying at luxurious hotels, doing some site seeing and gamble a bit I'll be more then happy to fly to Las Vegas to see a Madonna show, just like I will fly to Las Vegas to see Céline Dion and just like I did last year and flew to Las Vegas to see Santana perform...

 

If Madonna is going to perform in LV; which ever venue it will be, they will transform the place where the concert is going to take place into a standing concert format. They can do whatever they wish with a concert area they can put chairs or remove them; even for Celine Dion in the colleseum, if Celine wished her concert to be standing-kinda concert they can do it for her. Madonna won't give a seat-type-of-concert for the simple reason that 90% of her songs are dance songs and she has only 10% of her songs slow which she rarely sings nowadays. Whereas, Celine has 99% of her songs are slow-ballad songs that's why her concerts are seated.

Edited August 23, 2010 at 07:16 PM by RomualdlovesCeline

[Bralo20]

If Madonna is going to perform in LV; which ever venue it will be, they will transform the place where the concert is going to take place into a standing concert format. They can do whatever they wish with a concert area they can put chairs or remove them; even for Celine Dion in the colleseum, if Celine wished her concert to be standing-kinda concert they can do it for her. Madonna won't give a seat-type-of-concert for the simple reason that 90% of her songs are dance songs and she has only 10% of her songs slow which she rarely sings nowadays. Whereas, Celine has 99% of her songs are slow-ballad songs that's why her concerts are seated.

 

If that is the case I'll stay in Belgium or go see to a Cirque de soleil show instead

 

But it's all preliminary, nothing is signed, no venue is chosen, no dates are announced, nothing