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I'm a bit surprised her recent live performances only made the headlines now. I mean she's been having vocal issues since 1997. That's 17 long years. Her live vocal performances have always been questionable. On her albums, she's inhumanly good! She sings as if there's no tomorrow. But singing them completely live is another story. This has been her problem since she ended her Daydream tour in 1996. She has this habbit of creating songs that are impossible to sing live. That's why I've been wondering why she hasn't released videos of the recording sessions of her albums like Celine does with almost all her studio albums. I mean, I want to see how she recorded songs like Lead the Way, Never too Far, Reflections, Mine Again etc.

 

I feel sad for her. I feel that because she's been pigeonholed as having this incredible range from 1990-1996, she's forced to make songs that can match (if not surpass) her vocals during her peak. I would not mind hearing her sing songs that suit her current voice. Cause it feels like she's cheating her fans by releasing songs with incredibly difficult notes, but never sing them live.

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this did shock the hell outta me - i knew her voice had suffered from the nodules shed always had ages ago but this is a completely different level of disability! she shouldnt have gone on tour like this - i only wish celine coulda been touring like shed planned in the same area and you can imagine the headlines....battle of the divas....there sadly would have been no battle.
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it is awful, i,m sad really. She is a human being, whatever the money and whatnot...she writes her songs, but she lost her voice
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This was really sad! Her voice was just not there at all. Even parts of songs where there weren't any high notes she couldn't sing, she sounded really off key. It must have been really hard to be up there for an entire show with no voice. I can't imagine how embarrassed she probably was. I hope she recovers quickly and improves.
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I'm a bit surprised her recent live performances only made the headlines now. I mean she's been having vocal issues since 1997. That's 17 long years. Her live vocal performances have always been questionable. On her albums, she's inhumanly good! She sings as if there's no tomorrow. But singing them completely live is another story. This has been her problem since she ended her Daydream tour in 1996. She has this habbit of creating songs that are impossible to sing live. That's why I've been wondering why she hasn't released videos of the recording sessions of her albums like Celine does with almost all her studio albums. I mean, I want to see how she recorded songs like Lead the Way, Never too Far, Reflections, Mine Again etc.

 

I feel sad for her. I feel that because she's been pigeonholed as having this incredible range from 1990-1996, she's forced to make songs that can match (if not surpass) her vocals during her peak. I would not mind hearing her sing songs that suit her current voice. Cause it feels like she's cheating her fans by releasing songs with incredibly difficult notes, but never sing them live.

 

 

Yes, I'm so curious why she didn't release recording session DVD of her studio albums.

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I didn't gather the courage to watch it yet.

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I just watched the video. Well... We've heard such vocals before. She's had ups and downs, it's not the first time she gives a weak live performance. However, I think we shouldn't compare this to how she used to be 2 decades ago. No one can sound the same 20 years later.
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No one can sound the same 20 years later.

 

I agree. Celine doesn't either.

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Angry Fans Storm Out Of Mariah Carey’s Korean Concert: ‘It Was The Worst!’

Posted by Jacques Peterson on 10/08/2014 at 8:53 PM News, Videos

 

The Popdust Files: mariah carey

 

Mariah Carey is being slammed again for her latest tour performances, this time from Korean fans who attended her Elusive Chanteuse Show in Seoul last night.

 

Website Netizen Buzz, which tracks trending news articles in Korea and translates the readers’ comments into English, revealed a frosty reception to Mimi’s recent tour stop, with many fans claiming that they walked out of the concert after the diva failed to deliver.

 

Some of the highest-voted comments included:

 

“The absolute worst… I can’t believe I actually paid money and left work early to watch such a horrific concert.”

 

“She was bad right from her first track. I feel bad for anyone who paid to watch this. I saw an ajumma walk out in the beginning saying, ‘Wow, this is so trash that I can’t even listen to it…’ I agreed.”

 

“Mariah Carey… it already feels like she’s a has been but she’s not even professional anymore. Beyonce performed with such passion and effort in Korea. Why can’t Mariah anymore?”

 

“I’m a Carey fan who just got back from the concert… I thought she’d at least perform her most famous tracks in Korea like Hero or Without You but she didn’t!! And the majority of the concert was spent on dancing and instrumental performances instead of her singing. A lot of lip syncing instead of live as well. Overall, a disappointment.”

 

“Wow.. I just got out of the concert ㅠㅠ I’m such a huge fan that I was going to be satisfied with just seeing her live but she lacks so much basic things as a singer.. Her voice cracked, she forgot the lyrics to ‘We Belong Together’, everything had an MR (translated: a backing track), she left before her high note on ‘Heartbreaker’ ㅠㅠ Is this a joke? Doesn’t she want to make money off her tour? I think I’m just going to be a fan of her music videos ㅠㅠ Can’t believe I sat an hour in the cold for that.”

 

Mimi already received a similar response to the tour’s opening night in Tokyo over the weekend, with videos of her voice-cracking going viral earlier this week.

 

Fan footage from the Seoul stop reveals that Mimi’s drastically improved since Tokyo, but they also show that she’s now relying heavily on her backing singers, and is even straight up lip syncing in parts. She also noticeably axed some of the more challenging power ballads from the setlist, including “Hero.”

 

You can check out a performance of “All I Want For Christmas Is You” below. Take note around the 2:55 mark which shows Mariah move the mic away from her mouth to put a feather boa on, all while her vocals remain perfectly in tune from the backing track she’s miming to.

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I agree. Celine doesn't either.

The difference here is that she's gotten better :P

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The difference here is that she's gotten better :P

 

I wouldn't say better or worse, but definitely different. :-D

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The difference here is that she's gotten better :P

I wouldn't say so. Her voice naturally changed but I myself don't think that now Celine sounds better than 20 years ago. Each Celine era has its own magic, You can't compare one to another and say 'this is better'. For me, they are all good.

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I wouldn't say so. Her voice naturally changed but I myself don't think that now Celine sounds better than 20 years ago. Each Celine era has its own magic, You can't compare one to another and say 'this is better'. For me, they are all good.

 

I so agree with you. I guess I meant that in comparison with Mariah, she's gotten better. But, she's as strong as ever know, Celine is! :)

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She needs to quit for some time and take singing lessons. Herself has always been her biggest enemy. Not the nodules, not Tommy, not the divorce, not the recording pace. It's herself. Edited by LukeD
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The setlist is great! I got excited when I saw Babydoll but then it's lipped so :down: I really want her to sing Can't Let Go honestly

Although at the moment I know she's going through a lot so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. She usually does a lot better when she's used to the touring.

 

She sang "Don't Explain" by Billie Holiday too so that was exciting! :wub: She really should do some more Jazz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEI5ScSM-to

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I agree. Celine doesn't either.

I beg to differ. Just checkout Regarde Moi. Its way more powerful now. Her voice is way more controlled and stronger. Also fuller. Yeah a little more nasal but thats what makes it unique.

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She sang "Don't Explain" by Billie Holiday too so that was exciting! :wub: She really should do some more Jazz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEI5ScSM-to

Yeah, Mariah singing jazz is great!

 

I beg to differ. Just checkout Regarde Moi. Its way more powerful now. Her voice is way more controlled and stronger. Also fuller. Yeah a little more nasal but thats what makes it unique.

1995

http://youtu.be/tfcQZ5cjDYE

2013

http://youtu.be/W9xc7q7k7ow

That was the point actually. We were not talking about better or worse, we were just saying that everybody sounds different when some 20 years have passed.

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I think powerofamor meant that she sounds the same just a lot more technical and controlled. You can sound the same and still have more positive attributes with some proper training as shown.
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That was the point actually. We were not talking about better or worse, we were just saying that everybody sounds different when some 20 years have passed.

 

Exactly.

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Mariah posted this on her Twitter page last night! She's going to be performing and the Jazz and Blues Festival in Jamaica! Celine performed there a few years ago in 2012 ^_^ (I'm pretty sure it was 2012 if I'm not mistaken).

 

 

 

 

Mariah Alert: MC will perform in Jamaica for the first time ever as the headliner of the 2015 Jazz & Blues Festival! http://www.jamaicaob...-Carey_17836096
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old Interview from 1998/99

GALA: You have a big success with 'When You Believe' from the 'Prince Of Egypt' a duet with you recorded together with Whitney Houston. They always said you were enemies...

MARIAH CAREY: Jeffrey Katzenberg, the producer, had tricked us, he told me 'Whitney agrees, to her he said I was ready. Somehow we both couldn't believe this. Then we stand together in the studio and record the song. We get along very well.

GALA: No rivalry?

MARIAH CAREY: We didn't know each other at all. How can you hate someone you don't know in person?

GALA: Can you imagine a duet with Celine Dion. Your biggest competitor?

MARIAH CAREY: I think not, our musical roots are different. Her music is pop, mine is based on rhythm & blues.

GALA: And when she's standing before your door knocking? Eventually Celine Dion loves to do duets, she sang together with the Bee Gees, Barbra Streisand & Carol King...

MARIAH CAREY: Believe me. Celine will never stand before my door.

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Thats mean and horrible musicianship. It looks terrible like she didnt like Celine. Its probably not Celine she had a problem with. Its was her record label.

 

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old Interview from 1998/99

GALA: You have a big success with 'When You Believe' from the 'Prince Of Egypt' a duet with you recorded together with Whitney Houston. They always said you were enemies...

MARIAH CAREY: Jeffrey Katzenberg, the producer, had tricked us, he told me 'Whitney agrees, to her he said I was ready. Somehow we both couldn't believe this. Then we stand together in the studio and record the song. We get along very well.

GALA: No rivalry?

MARIAH CAREY: We didn't know each other at all. How can you hate someone you don't know in person?

GALA: Can you imagine a duet with Celine Dion. Your biggest competitor?

MARIAH CAREY: I think not, our musical roots are different. Her music is pop, mine is based on rhythm & blues.

GALA: And when she's standing before your door knocking? Eventually Celine Dion loves to do duets, she sang together with the Bee Gees, Barbra Streisand & Carol King...

MARIAH CAREY: Believe me. Celine will never stand before my door.

 

she missed the change to do it now its to late Celine would kill her

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LOL @ the 'different musical roots' reasoning when she made duets with Justin Bieber and Nicki Minaj. Guess she thought their music is based on rhythm and blues too. :rolleyes:
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haha i can totally see where shes coming from - and it doesnt sound like she hates her (as its well documented they have been friends for a while anyway and probably known each other since the early days of sony) it sounds more like she thinks celine would never come knocking at her door? i dunno. Its different now however mariah hasnt got anything to prove any more a duet might be more feasible. but as you said i dont think their voices would go together very well anymore celine would A. killer her as you say and 2. mariah would be all whispery and heady. i would sound horrible.
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For the sixth year it's time for the annual Mariah Carey Top 25. Rules: make a list of your 25 favorite Mariah songs in order of most loved. Send them to dutchmca@outlook.com and in January we will let you know which songs have made it to this ultimate fan list. You can vote for a remix or live performance, but every song can only be listed once!

Here is the list of the last five years. In brackets you'll find the positions of the songs in previous years:

The list of 2013 (2012) (2011) (2010) (2009):

1. (2) (4) (4) (2) We Belong Together: 432 points

2. (8) (8) (15) (5) Breakdown: 384 points

3. (3) (3) (6) (4) Always Be My Baby: 377 points

4. (4) (5) (7) (7) Fantasy: 366 points

5. (1) (2) (1) (1) Vision of Love: 359 points

6. (-) (-) (-) (-) #Beautiful (with Miguel): 342 points

7. (6) (6) (16) (17) Can't Let Go: 336 points

8. (11) (17) (17) (18) Honey: 329 points

9. (10) (13) (10) (13) My All: 306 points

10. (7) (16) (2) (10) The Roof: 284 points

11. (5) (10) (5) (3) Butterfly: 257 points

12. (12) (12) (13) (53) All I Want For Christmas Is You: 248 points

13. (14) (11) (11) (20) Underneath The Stars: 242 points

14. (18) (26) (47) (32) Dreamlover: 232 points

15. (13) (7) (18) (11) Anytime You Need A Friend: 220 points

16. (23) (18) (8) (23) Heartbreaker (feat. Jay-Z): 219 points

17. (15) (21) (9) (14) Emotions: 218 points

18. (19) (24) (20) (12) Close My Eyes: 195 points

19. (20) (19) (12) (8) Fly Like A Bird: 188 points

20. (16) (30) (25) (6) Hero: 174 points

21. (36) (85) (19) (30) Lead The Way: 172 points

22. (-) (-) (-) (-) The Art Of Letting Go: 167 points

23. (26) (35) (39) (34) Love Takes Time: 164 points

24. (50) (55) (36) (28) Whenever You Call: 160 points

25. (9) (9) (32) (15) Make It Happen: 156 points

Just outside the top 25:

26. (29) (73) (49) (43) Thank God I Found You (Make It Last Remix) (& Joe): 144 points

27. (-) (-) (-) (-) Almost Home: 139 points

28. (22) (1) (3) (9) H.A.T.E.U.: 134 points

29. (30) (68) (71) (41) Melt Away: 127 points

30. (34) (61) (59) (61) Everything Fades Away: 118 points

31. (32) (14) (14) (24) Betcha Gon' Know: 117 points

32. (47) (113) (86) (140) Subtle Invitation: 116 points

33. (21) (98) (29) (33) Outside: 114 points

34. (31) (45) (30) (37) Vanishing: 114 points

35. (82) (50) (35) (64) Fourth of July: 111 points

36. (42) (54) (21) (40) Don't Forget About Us: 109 points

37. (51) (51) (46) (46) For The Record: 103 points

38. (44) (23) (62) (60) Touch My Body: 99 points

39. (48) (43) (38) (19) Bringin' On The Heartbreak: 91 points

40. (72) (63) (92) (52) Shake It Off: 90 points

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old Interview from 1998/99

GALA: You have a big success with 'When You Believe' from the 'Prince Of Egypt' a duet with you recorded together with Whitney Houston. They always said you were enemies...

MARIAH CAREY: Jeffrey Katzenberg, the producer, had tricked us, he told me 'Whitney agrees, to her he said I was ready. Somehow we both couldn't believe this. Then we stand together in the studio and record the song. We get along very well.

GALA: No rivalry?

MARIAH CAREY: We didn't know each other at all. How can you hate someone you don't know in person?

GALA: Can you imagine a duet with Celine Dion. Your biggest competitor?

MARIAH CAREY: I think not, our musical roots are different. Her music is pop, mine is based on rhythm & blues.

GALA: And when she's standing before your door knocking? Eventually Celine Dion loves to do duets, she sang together with the Bee Gees, Barbra Streisand & Carol King...

MARIAH CAREY: Believe me. Celine will never stand before my door.

 

I wonder if this is a real interview. It sounds almost translated, except that, so far as I know, Mariah only speaks English. But some of the sentence constructions are very odd for direct quotes, and sound like a bad Google Translate. Things like: "Whitney agrees, to her he said I was ready." "Standing before your door" (why the "before"? That's weird). And "Eventually Celine Dion loves to do duets" -- eventually? huh? Why use that word?

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