Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[Nmj]

 

 

What would her day-to-day business operations have been during all this time anyway? And what staff would that mean...Feelings Productions? Have they been working during this whole period?

 

So many questions, just rhetorical as we don't know the answers.

 

If anyone was working we wouldn’t know…. This team and the record company has abandoned us 4 years now.

[incognito]

 

 

If anyone was working we wouldn’t know…. This team and the record company has abandoned us 4 years now.

 

They were getting paid for nothing.

 

Maybe she doesn’t want to be “the boss” anymore? Maybe she’s going to hire 3rd parties to do their jobs going forward. Less stressful.

[scielle]

What would her day-to-day business operations have been during all this time anyway? And what staff would that mean...Feelings Productions? Have they been working during this whole period?

 

So many questions, just rhetorical as we don't know the answers.

 

General admin folks, I guess? Probably a finance / accounting / payroll type person (someone has to process all that for her band, backup singers, engineers, etc) General production assistance & logistics, coordinating media requests, coordinating relationships with suppliers, promoters, etc. Dealing with immigration/ visas for folks when touring. There are (were?) several archivists there, who's entire job was to keep detailed track of setlists (for royalty payments to songwriters, etc), costumes (as in what she's wearing at what event, whether it's a personal or business expense, etc, presumably for tax reasons).

I spoke to someone once who worked there for several years. She did a plethora of admin, logistics, media & VIP-relations support.

But I have no idea what these people would be doing when she's not actively performing (i assume for media, charity, project proposal requests, Dave & Denis can handle, along with any deal/ contract negotiations, of course.).

Edited May 7, 2023 at 12:44 PM by scielle

[comingback]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRxi05suSpI

 

Last Concert Celine Dion's Courage World Tour concert pre-pandemic

It so sad, that maybe we will never see on stage again.

Edited May 7, 2023 at 01:10 PM by comingback

[homerton]

This is obviously a serious illness. I am now thinking we won’t see her perform again. I suspect retirement and a bow out this year. She was painfully thin in 2019 part of the illness? It was not healthy. Stress I suspect from loosing her love. She never recovered. We knew Rene going would be damaging. It’s worse than we feared.

[PuraVida]

General admin folks, I guess? Probably a finance / accounting / payroll type person (someone has to process all that for her band, backup singers, engineers, etc) General production assistance & logistics, coordinating media requests, coordinating relationships with suppliers, promoters, etc. Dealing with immigration/ visas for folks when touring. There are (were?) several archivists there, who's entire job was to keep detailed track of setlists (for royalty payments to songwriters, etc), costumes (as in what she's wearing at what event, whether it's a personal or business expense, etc, presumably for tax reasons).

I spoke to someone once who worked there for several years. She did a plethora of admin, logistics, media & VIP-relations support.

But I have no idea what these people would be doing when she's not actively performing (i assume for media, charity, project proposal requests, Dave & Denis can handle, along with any deal/ contract negotiations, of course.).

 

"During all this time" I meant the last 3 years. I know all the other stuff.

[AdrienneM]

 

 

"During all this time" I meant the last 3 years. I know all the other stuff.

 

I’m assuming these people were still on payroll at least through mid-2022. As, like most people, they were likely under the impression she’d be back touring in summer 2021, which had to be postponed due to covid, and then she was gearing up for vegas until that was postponed in late 2021, but again I think they assumed she’d be back to touring in 2022 and therefore back in vegas in late 2022 also. But it probably all set in that this was soemthing more serious when she had to postpone both vegas and then the tour 6 months later

[jpatdeleon09]

I prefer this outfit too!

 

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[No1IrishFan]

Now that the film and soundtrack are out, next on the list is the CWT. I don’t think it will resume. Any guesses on when we will get an update?

[KyleVan41]

Now that the film and soundtrack are out, next on the list is the CWT. I don’t think it will resume. Any guesses on when we will get an update?

 

First or second week of June

[Del]

If she does make it back to the stage (and I pray that she does!) I think the days of The Power of Love, All By Myself etc as we know them may be behind us.

 

Surely shell need to strip them back, change the arrangements, do them acoustically or even drop them altogether? I guess no-one really knows but I fear weve seen the last of these bombastic performances.

The longer this nightmare goes on the more I think we may never see her on stage again. It breaks my heart to think that might be the reality and I feel so fortunate for the times I saw her. If seeing her in Quebec city during the Courage World Tour was truly the last time I will have seen her live in concert then I'm even happier I found those front row center tickets.

 

All that said I do hope that she comes out of this able to perform again but like you said with new arranged version of the classics and new songs so that we can see her shine in a new way.

 

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[Shaun]

The longer this nightmare goes on the more I think we may never see her on stage again. It breaks my heart to think that might be the reality and I feel so fortunate for the times I saw her. If seeing her in Quebec city during the Courage World Tour was truly the last time I will have seen her live in concert then I'm even happier I found those front row center tickets.

 

All that said I do hope that she comes out of this able to perform again but like you said with new arranged version of the classics and new songs so that we can see her shine in a new way.

 

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She’s due on stage in Amsterdam in just over 3 months from now. Given the complete (understandable) radio silence I’d be astonished if the tour resumes. I’ve never wanted to be more wrong though.

 

Everything I’ve read about this cruel disease that is SPS would indicate that she will be fighting this condition for the rest of her life now and, if she’s lucky, she’ll be able to live with it instead of “suffering” with it.

 

Performing, recording and anything else she chooses to do from now on should be seen as a bonus as her priorities are rightly elsewhere.

 

You’re absolutely right, we should all feel so lucky we had the privilege of already experiencing seeing her live.

[A new day...]

Unfortunately I think a tour involves too much planning versus the unpredictability of the SPS crisis. She might eventually continue te record songs/albums on the days she feels good (and if she has the will to continue making music of course), but the pressure of such a schedule is probably too much to handle for her with this condition, or even for AEG or any other presenter! With the threats of mass cancellations, the repercussions would be catastrophic.

 

Of course, I still hope for her to come back to the stage, but I'm being less and less optimistic about it. The eventual upcoming announcement will undeniably set the fate of this tour.

[PuraVida]

To say "never" feels a bit too pessimistic for me. With advances in medicine, and given that she's only in her 50s, we could see her get to a place where she's able to at least sing on a stage.

 

But who knows, and this disease seems unforgiving. I keep getting echoes of the Linda Ronstadt situation, and that hurts so much to think about. It hurts even more when I watch some of her performances where's so animated, giving 100% and being so happy.

 

At times, it's hard to bridge the two realities that the person I am watching on my screen is now someone with such a brutal disease who cannot use her gift.

[KyleVan41]

So love again opens June 7 in France. Her shows in France will be the next to cancelled; but given the fact they likely don’t want to dampen the movies release I’m suspecting an announcement sometime in mid - June ? Can’t see it happening before Love Again opens there.

[scielle]

So love again opens June 7 in France. Her shows in France will be the next to cancelled; but given the fact they likely don't want to dampen the movies release I'm suspecting an announcement sometime in mid - June ? Can't see it happening before Love Again opens there.

 

Or, conversely, they could announce it just prior, in the expectation that the news would drive people to theatres to see her.

But I agree, more likely to happen mid-June.

 

The publisher of that new biography still has release date set for August, right? Supposedly to coincide with her return to the stage, but then again RW was supposedly holding dates for her in May to coincide with LA release and we know how that went.

[scielle]

The publisher of that new biography still has release date set for August, right? Supposedly to coincide with her return to the stage, but then again RW was supposedly holding dates for her in May to coincide with LA release and we know how that went.

 

Oh never mind. It seems what was reported in that article a while back may not have been entirely accurate... https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=6278011788889013&set=pb.100062977734437.-2207520000.

[Zofia]

On the other side, on April 13 she confirms the date of publication “As promised... Still a little patience. See you at the end of August with the biography.”

 

Besides, the more I look at her FB profile, the more I fear that the book is going to be very weak…

[smw]

Are most of us here expecting Celine to cancel the tour in mid June?

 

That’s kind of what I’m thinking… considering she’s been off the grid during the entirety of the Love Again promo.

 

I hope we get a little update on how she’s doing at least. And if she’ll be away for a long while, focusing on her health, I hope Team Celine keeps her star shining via posting career highlights on social media, releasing unseen projects, etc. (Not to be morbid… but it could be similar to what we’ve seen on Whitney Houston or Olivia Newton-John’s social media. They keep their stars shining with new releases/clips all the time.)

 

I’m still hoping the documentary is moving forward too.

 

One silver lining of this sad situation is perhaps it will lead to Celine doing some other kinds of projects down the road. She’s been hyper focused on live performance for decades… this is forcing her to pivot and perhaps some interesting things will come out of all this.

 

Edited May 19, 2023 at 05:17 PM by smw

[scielle]

It's so hard to predict because it seems with this disease, every patient really is a unique snowflake. Some respond to treatment quite well and can carry on working with some accommodation. Others can't stand for more than a few minutes, need help getting dressed and have to plan out every simple thing, like taking a shower, because of how much energy they expend on routine daily tasks.

[nuts2you]

well fingers crossed her team/ Promoters are working something out,, But yeah I see announcement coming soon ,

 

Btw; I did see that GB now has a place to call Home for 2 yrs , back where (Our Home was for 14 yrs ) CP glad to see that CP is filling up with A-LISTERS

[smw]

Maybe someday Celine will be able to do one-offs at the Colosseum. I hope she returns there considering it was built for her.

 

I’m staying hopeful the treatments will allow her to do so.

 

One-offs in France and Canada would be lovely too. A spotlight, orchestra, backup singers and a stool is all she needs.

 

Edited May 19, 2023 at 07:56 PM by smw

[Dancing_Queen]

There are suddenly no more available tickets for any of the Amsterdam shows, which is quite odd. Same for the 3rd Antwerp show (the one that hadn't sold out before).

Wouldn't suprise me if the organizers were recently informed that the shows aren't going to happen...😪

 

Some other venues are still selling tickets though.

[browseceline]

In that case they should cancel the tour and give everyone their money back. You can’t postpone that often.

 

 

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[anewdayhascome]

I'd rather they postponed as it would indicate some sort of hope. Without it, we will not even have any approximate date for any update regarding her anymore

[Nmj]

There are suddenly no more available tickets for any of the Amsterdam shows, which is quite odd. Same for the 3rd Antwerp show (the one that hadn't sold out before).

Wouldn't suprise me if the organizers were recently informed that the shows aren't going to happen...😪

 

Some other venues are still selling tickets though.

 

This confirms what we all think is coming…. Pulling the tickets to not let anymore fans buy them to mitigate the number of refunds that are coming.

[KyleVan41]

 

 

This confirms what we all think is coming…. Pulling the tickets to not let anymore fans buy them to mitigate the number of refunds that are coming.

 

Oh yes there were lots of seats just the other day , and now nothing . We’re definitely getting a cancellation of this tour . My word it’s all so sad

[manu23]

Same for one the shows I was attending, the one in Stockholm and there were still tickets left. So cancellation this time. And this probably means she is not doing better which is even worst

[smw]

Same for one the shows I was attending, the one in Stockholm and there were still tickets left. So cancellation this time. And this probably means she is not doing better which is even worst

 

Even if it’s canceled, it doesn’t mean all hope is lost. The treatments are in process.

 

They probably should’ve canceled in December in one swoop when she made her announcement - but perhaps Celine wanted to hold onto hope… or maybe it was logistical / strategic reasons why they didn’t go ahead and cancel at that time.

 

But this has been such a tough road lately. I just hope her doctors can keep her spasms under control and she’s able to lead a comfortable, pain free day to day life.

[ivo]

Just so sad….