Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[Del]

How’s everyone this morning?

 

I’m listening to her Xmas album on the way into work at the minute and all I can think about is her.

It still doesn't feel real.

 

I to was listening to her Christmas album while on my way to work and started with where I had stopped it yesterday, The Prayer. The song always has strong meaning, but even more so now.

 

I had a few co-workers and friends reach out to me saying how terrible this is to be happening to her.

 

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[PuraVida]

She did say she is working with a sports medicine therapist everyday. I suppose that's par for the course? Idk still good to hear that. I am very curious how that's going and what results they are seeing. If walking itself is an issue, might be aquatherapy? Oh, poor Celine Edited December 10, 2022 at 12:21 AM by PuraVida

[stone]

I’ve been listening to the new version of La mémoire d'Abraham on repeat after the news. It’s been the only song from D’eux I used to skip, but it holds so much weight lyrically now and this version is 10x’s better than the original.

[scielle]

Her fellow Canadian artist Joni Mitchell has made a monumental recovery from her brain aneurysm and learned to talk, walk, and play instruments again.

 

Speaking of Joni, the person largely responsible for getting her back on stage and performing again is Brandi Carlile, so it was great to see Brandi's post under Celine's announcement yesterday:

"I'm sending you so much love. I know we don't know one another but I've always loved you very much and I'll be praying for you and believing in you from here. You've got this."

 

She really is a fan! https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAcT31Lj-QC/?igshid=YTY2NzY3YTc=

 

Edited December 10, 2022 at 01:41 AM by scielle

[smw]

 

 

Speaking of Joni, the person largely responsible for getting her back on stage and performing again is Brandi Carlile, so it was great to see Brandi's post under Celine's announcement yesterday:

"I'm sending you so much love. I know we don't know one another but I've always loved you very much and I'll be praying for you and believing in you from here. You've got this."

 

She really is a fan! https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAcT31Lj-QC/?igshid=YTY2NzY3YTc=

 

Yes - I’m a huge Brandi fan and I was thrilled to see this. Brandi greatly admires strong, talented women performers. She brought Tanya Tucker back to the limelight as well.

[PuraVida]

I love Joni immensely, mixed feelings on Brandy, but I am glad she has shown good friendship and the comment to Celine very kind. Celine likewise is going to need friends, family, supporters to get through this...but her disorder is so unique, that it sounds like even being touched can be triggering.How terrible is that.

[CourageCeline]

Her recent post has gone viral with 8.2 million views. People are giving her nothing but love. Beautiful

[actofcontrition]

Im watching « 10 ans déjà » in tears! I still can’t believe it…

[wjd]

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Even the Prime Minister of Canada is sending her love!

 

I personally am devastated by the news - as with so many here, Celine is my everything when it comes to music. Though the years have passed and I might listen to her less, the impact a person has on your life can never be overstated or underestimated. She is the greatest female artist of all-time in my opinion.

 

I hope she manages to return to the stage one day, I hope we get more new music. But more than that, more than anything else, I hope she lives a pain free life and is able to enjoy at least another 30 years with the music industry and her fans giving her her flowers during that time. She deserves anything and everything positive - and for the impact she’s had on music, she should be celebrated. If we get nothing else from her musically, what a legacy she has left behind.

Edited December 10, 2022 at 03:39 AM by wjd

[jolo87]

Came across this video. It's not about the question to release something from the vault.

 

But the images and the music

If performing and singing is truly something she wants and miss, I hope for her that one day she will be able and end her career the way it started, surrounded by fans and the outpouring love she deserves.

 

 

That video is positively vulgar.

[maki_Dion-er]

That video is positively vulgar.

 

No it's not. It was made before we knew how serious her illness was and it's aimed at Sony.

[stevo]

Every song now has a new meaning. She has always ‘supported us’ ‘got us through’ ‘helped us fight’ and now it’s like the turning of the TVs in the TTWII video- now she needs it all. I still can’t quite believe it but we just have to have hope, for her.

[PuraVida]

I have hope, but rewatching her announcement made me feel it was the beginning of a somber goodbye. There was so much pain in her eyes that, to me, felt like she knows it's more likely than not that she won't return.

 

And that's not even to get into the level which will satisfy her personal expectations of herself. She wants to be able to give 100% of herself. What percent of her voice will remain?

[Peppercorn1991]

Ok I’m starting to be optimistic. It was a massive shock but she does have the best people around her and she is raising awareness so research can be conducted. Yes she may not be able to sing as she did before, but what artist does as they get older anyway?

 

This seems very new to Celine too so when she has had chance to process this herself, I am sure she will work with what she has got. I’m not talking full blown tours or a residency but she may be able to do projects.

 

I think of Selma Blair who was diagnosed with MS but she has kept herself in the spotlight and even did dancing with the stars. Everything is not over. It’s Celine…. And a new chapter begins in whatever form that will be. One thing is for sure, she won’t always stay in the shadows…. I’m sure of it.

 

Kev x

[Nmj]

Ok I’m starting to be optimistic. It was a massive shock but she does have the best people around her and she is raising awareness so research can be conducted. Yes she may not be able to sing as she did before, but what artist does as they get older anyway?

 

This seems very new to Celine too so when she has had chance to process this herself, I am sure she will work with what she has got. I’m not talking full blown tours or a residency but she may be able to do projects.

 

I think of Selma Blair who was diagnosed with MS but she has kept herself in the spotlight and even did dancing with the stars. Everything is not over. It’s Celine…. And a new chapter begins in whatever form that will be. One thing is for sure, she won’t always stay in the shadows…. I’m sure of it.

 

Kev x

 

Interesting you mentioned Selma Blair who wrote a beautiful message to

Celine on her Instagram post. I would guess she felt she could relate.

[sarit_celine]

The problem is that it attacks her vocal chords, the area of the neck... many different parts.

People who suffer from this struggle to breath, so singing?

 

I do have picture in my mind of Celine sitting on a chair on the stage and people just want to tell her

how much they love her.

[jolo87]

 

 

No it's not. It was made before we knew how serious her illness was and it's aimed at Sony.

 

I mean, going from "Get well soon Celine!" to a dramatic animation of a vault opening and a list of new products you want from her. It's a bit morbid and gives the impression that she is already dead. For reference, MJ had a "vault" of old recordings that was "opened" after his death ... same with Whitney.

[maki_Dion-er]

 

 

I mean, going from "Get well soon Celine!" to a dramatic animation of a vault opening and a list of new products you want from her. It's a bit morbid and gives the impression that she is already dead. For reference, MJ had a "vault" of old recordings that was "opened" after his death ... same with Whitney.

 

The video (which was done many months ago) is asking Sony to release older shows like they've done in the past w/ AND, Taking Chances, etc. The video was done with the confidence that she was slightly sick and would be back to touring like normal. The idea is that we wished to get that vaulted material now instead of waiting so they can make money off her death. That's more morbid imo.

 

Right now no one is asking or wanting anything of Celine other than to focus on her health.

[jolo87]

Celine saying in the last part, "see you soon", maybe that's indicated that they saw a small improvement?

I don't even think at this stage of her going back on touring though it will be very emocional once it happens.

Wishing her many strength to handle this challenging chapter in her life, she has the best team of doctors on her side

and this alone gives me hope. I do think that one day or another she will do an important interview about her current situation.

 

I think the disappointment in her face was fresh. It wasn't the expression of someone who's expected this for awhile. Gives me some hope that maybe she's been at least stable and was really hoping to be able to do the shows, but just recently her doctors advised against it.

[jolo87]

 

 

The video (which was done many months ago) is asking Sony to release older shows like they've done in the past w/ AND, Taking Chances, etc. The video was done with the confidence that she was slightly sick and would be back to touring like normal. The idea is that we wished to get that vaulted material now instead of waiting so they can make money off her death. That's more morbid imo.

 

Right now no one is asking or wanting anything of Celine other than to focus on her health.

 

Of course that was just my subjective reaction to it, not a comment on the intentions of whoever made it. I interpreted it as "Well she might as well be dead, so why not open the vault early?" But just in general to juxtapose a condolence message with a plea to a corporation to release more products (even going to far as to include mockups of the products you want to buy) is just baseline cringey.

[Chantemoi]

 

 

Of course that was just my subjective reaction to it, not a comment on the intentions of whoever made it. I interpreted it as "Well she might as well be dead, so why not open the vault early?" But just in general to juxtapose a condolence message with a plea to a corporation to release more products (even going to far as to include mockups of the products you want to buy) is just baseline cringey.

 

In hindsight, vision is 20/20. Keep in mind that campaign started in early 2021, before any muscle spasms were ever mentioned. And yes, perhaps it’s cringey to pair a get well message with a request, but like Maki_Dioner said, it was not thought to be serious/progressive at that time. Yet it had been almost two years that fans had been left hanging on - many of whom had spent $$$ for tickets- and the way her team has handled PR the past few years is really what’s cringey.

 

(Edit: to be clear, I’m not referring to keeping her condition private - that is her business, and her business only. This is completely about the radio silence during 2020-2021, and how fans would have really appreciated seeing something -already filmed- released while they waited for live tours to resume.)

Edited December 12, 2022 at 03:10 AM by Chantemoi

[PuraVida]

Besides whatever romcom promo video she records, I think it we won't hear from her again until this time next year. That sucks to think about.

[CelineDionFreak]

Besides whatever romcom promo video she records, I think it we won't hear from her again until this time next year. That sucks to think about.

Isn’t she supposed to “pick back up” in August 2023? I mean we all know that’s probably a no go but I’m assuming she will record another video if she can’t go sometime in May/early June if she has to postpone again.

[Nmj]

 

Isn’t she supposed to “pick back up” in August 2023? I mean we all know that’s probably a no go but I’m assuming she will record another video if she can’t go sometime in May/early June if she has to postpone again.

 

I think all tour dates are canceled for 2023 right? I believe March 2024 is the next thing on the calendar?

[CelineDionFreak]

 

 

I think all tour dates are canceled for 2023 right? I believe March 2024 is the next thing on the calendar?

No, on the rescheduled announcement it says dates from August 26-October 4 remain as scheduled. The stretch with the 7 or 8 Paris shows. I’m taking it as she’s trying to push through or maybe they didn’t want to postpone all at one time. I just know she’s ready to get back out there so maybe she’s hoping if she keeps those dates she can push to recover enough. But I don’t want her pushing to recover only to hurt herself worse.

[jolo87]

 

 

In hindsight, vision is 20/20. Keep in mind that campaign started in early 2021, before any muscle spasms were ever mentioned. And yes, perhaps it’s cringey to pair a get well message with a request, but like Maki_Dioner said, it was not thought to be serious/progressive at that time. Yet it had been almost two years that fans had been left hanging on - many of whom had spent $$$ for tickets- and the way her team has handled PR the past few years is really what’s cringey.

 

(Edit: to be clear, I’m not referring to keeping her condition private - that is her business, and her business only. This is completely about the radio silence during 2020-2021, and how fans would have really appreciated seeing something -already filmed- released while they waited for live tours to resume.)

 

Yeah you're right, it was like cringey PR leading fans to go crazy and make cringey requests in return. There's something passive aggressive about that video but the whole situation was really passive aggressive on both ends. But at least that's over now and the truth has come out and everyone can be sincere and not cringey.

[mb011]

If I remember correctly they had problems scheduling the venue for the postponed Paris shows the last time they postponed. Maybe they will reschedule the 2023 shows too, if and when they book new dates. And that will probably just be announced in a statement…

 

 

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[joaofilho]

This disturbance is not simple, any trigger of emotion the muscles contract and the person is paralyzed.

Car noises and loud sounds can paralyze these people, imagine being on stage, with so much noise.

It's very sad, I believe Celine will no longer be able to sing or attend public events.

[jolo87]

This disturbance is not simple, any trigger of emotion the muscles contract and the person is paralyzed.

Car noises and loud sounds can paralyze these people, imagine being on stage, with so much noise.

It's very sad, I believe Celine will no longer be able to sing or attend public events.

 

We don't know how SPS effects her. Actually, since the number of cases is so small (and often underreported, plus overrepresented at an advanced stage due to lack of resources seeking care), general trends or even statistics probably don't tell us a lot about Celine's condition. It is apparently a widely divergent phenomenon with many different forms of symptomatology, in many cases unique to one patient and one patient alone. We don't know anything beyond what she has shared thus far.

[jolo87]

 

 

We don't know how SPS effects her. Actually, since the number of cases is so small (and often underreported, plus overrepresented at an advanced stage due to lack of resources seeking care), general trends or even statistics probably don't tell us a lot about Celine's condition. It is apparently a widely divergent phenomenon with many different forms of symptomatology, in many cases unique to one patient and one patient alone. We don't know anything beyond what she has shared thus far.

 

For example, while it is considered incurable, there are several patients who have been cured and have gone on to resume their careers. We don't know anything about it to begin with, generalizations mean nothing. So let's hope and hope and hope alongside her.