Celine performs at Barclaycard presents BST Hyde Park concerts 2019

July 7, 2019 at 04:09 PM

That outfit is so neat! I especially love the arms and all the glitter Wish she'd sing some gay disco anthem in it like I Will Survive or I Am What I Am...

Hahaha... totally agree!

July 7, 2019 at 04:45 PM

The trumpets needs to leave PQTME alone.... as with many other songs. Sounds so B and old fashioned, I cringe.

Celine needs to leave PQTMQ alone, as it was

July 7, 2019 at 05:17 PM

The trumpets needs to leave PQTME alone.... as with many other songs. Sounds so B and old fashioned, I cringe.

I loooove it! The brass section absolutely elevates this song (and many others)!

July 7, 2019 at 05:31 PM

I must be a bad vocal fan but many of the examples of "INSANE vocals" in the beginning of the clip sounds to me quite strained and as she is running out of beath.

No strain, just heavily compressed vocals. She never sounds good singing Im Alive or TTWII anymore. Her darker, froggier tone combined with lowered keys makes them unappealing and bad sounding to me. Imo TTWII would sound better in a higher key, as the higher the notes are the less she sounds dark and froggy. But from the IACBTMN rehersal clip onward it all sounds great to me

On the whole... I love her vocal evolution. She has so much resonance and who knew songs like The Reason could sound as good today as they did 20 years ago (if not better)?

I'm not a voice expert, but I feel Celine is in perfect control right in the middle and sounds better here than before. Sometimes her runs are not as super smooth as they were in the 90s, but her head voice is exquisite.

However, I have to agree that *sometimes* I'm not as excited as most when I watch these 'amazing vocals' videos... Sometimes I hear screechiness, sometimes I feel she leaps to the higher register (because this is higher than ever) as though the journey to get there isn't so easy anymore. And when she performs songs like those you highlighted, she does so from a place of habit/comfort. She has been singing them for so long now that it's like auto-pilot, whether it's the best technique or not.

And as for the electric guitar during Purple Rain, does anybody else feel it sometimes sounds like the monkey enclosure at the zoo?? :shrug:

I'm exaggerating, and I have read reviews of her shows were people go wild for it, but I don't get it...

I love that people are (re)discovering Celine at this point in her career and the whole world seems to be fan-girling her right now, but I wish she'd had this recognition in the early 90s-2000s when vocally, she was an unparalleled genius.

I kind of wish we could have this new Celine (richer, stronger, fuller voice with wider (?) range) mixed with a younger Celine (diamond precision, crystal clarity, technical perfection).

I'm not trying to criticise - if I'm honest, there's so much about her current sound that I prefer when compared to her old sound. When I fear she might be losing her voice, I watch clips from the 2000s and compare with today and I'm left speechless - so much of it sounds so much better.

I know that the voice naturally evolves as we age, but I saw Gladys Knight a few weeks ago and she sounds exactly she she did in the 60s. Do you ever wonder what Celine would sound like if she did not perform as much and obsessed about her vocal chords and technique as much as she did in her 20s?

I'm not wishing this disciplined joyless lifestyle on her again - but just imagine what the result might be!

Edited July 7, 2019 at 05:39 PM by tonybower

July 7, 2019 at 05:35 PM

Celine needs to leave PQTMQ alone, as it was

When I first heard the changes she had made to PQTME I was horrified. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It was like she wanted to sabotage the song. But then I saw it live in Vegas a few weeks ago, and it actually worked! I can't explain how, but it did. On Friday, some changes worked less well and people around me seemed confused as they tried to sing along, but on the whole I think it is okay. Having said that, it's such a classic that I don't think she should mess around with it too much. If she's tired of singing it, she should lay it to rest for a while. Maybe she will give it a break during the US leg of her world tour, and bring it out again in its intended fashion, once she is in Europe.

July 7, 2019 at 05:45 PM

And as for the electric guitar, does anybody else feel it sometimes sounds like the monkey enclosure at the zoo??

I love it! It's the only reason I don't mind Purple Rain being in the set list.

But it seems to be a very binary thing - people either love or hate it (I believe it was the only thing the Telegraphy review docked her a star for, actually.)

I love it when she does her instrument imitations and improv in general. Wish she did more. Wish she'd scat more, too.

It's so much better hearing these songs with her improv rather than straight - if you want that, go listen to the record. Her playing with these songs is the only thing that makes LCMM, RDMH, PQTME worthwhile at this point. So I say "the more, the better".

July 7, 2019 at 06:32 PM

I keep on repeating myself (and will continue) about how superb The Reason has turned out to be lately. Starting from last year it has risen above anything it's been before. I've never thought it worked live before and frankly I was hoping for her to completely let it go or do some drastic changes (like building the choruses from a soft one in the beginning of the song to a full power one at the end). But somehow (and despite the cringy trumpets in the refrain - I'm not all against horns: I looooove the ones at the intro and outro).

Can someone please help me put the finger on what has changed about The Reason. From being a boorefest it has become THE highlight of her current setlist (even when TT is around).

On the whole... I love her vocal evolution. She has so much resonance and who knew songs like The Reason could sound as good today as they did 20 years ago (if not better)?

EDIT:

And on the "vocal debate" I am so glad she has left all the "screaming" from the TC tour behind her. I like very much how she sounds now, her runs at the end of IACBTM and in the beginning of Ashes for example are soooo dreamy. :wub:

Edited July 7, 2019 at 06:35 PM by fred

July 7, 2019 at 06:36 PM

I keep on repeating myself (and will continue) about how superb The Reason has turned out to be lately. Starting from last year it has risen above anything it's been before. I've never thought it worked live before and frankly I was hoping for her to completely let it go or do some drastic changes (like building the choruses from a soft one in the beginning of the song to a full power one at the end). But somehow (and despite the cringy trumpets in the refrain - I'm not all against horns: I looooove the ones at the intro and outro).

Can someone please help me put the finger on what has changed about The Reason. From being a boorefest it has become THE highlight of her current setlist (even when TT is around).

Celine.

She’s obviously fallen in love with the song, its evident when she loves or is new to a song she will put her all into it. We were all used to seeing her do songs which bored her, so she stopped putting effort in and became lazy, its been a long time since we’ve seen her enjoy a song this much and put vocal effort into it because she enjoys it. When she puts the effort in, her energy and the vocals themselves feed each other, making it an EXPERIENCE.

July 7, 2019 at 06:45 PM

That's why I promt that she'd lay down the "common reportoire" at least for some concerts. If the hits needs to be there put them in a medley or use a remix (imagine of of the TLYM ones performed around FOMO) and do the rest of the show with only "inspired" songs.

To me one offs shows like this could be an opportunity for it (hense why I'm disapointed when the same old gets performed in such events. Just look at when she was present at a Jazz and Blues Festival some years ago - she likes performing those genres (at least I have gotten that impression) and she's mighty good at it too. Yet none of the songs in her setlist that night where new ones from those genres (Paganini was already a part of Vegas).

Celine.

She's obviously fallen in love with the song, its evident when she loves or is new to a song she will put her all into it. We were all used to seeing her do songs which bored her, so she stopped putting effort in and became lazy, its been a long time since we've seen her enjoy a song this much and put vocal effort into it because she enjoys it. When she puts the effort in, her energy and the vocals themselves feed each other, making it an EXPERIENCE.

July 7, 2019 at 06:49 PM

That's why I promt that she'd lay down the "common reportoire" at least for some concerts. If the hits needs to be there put them in a medley or use a remix (imagine of of the TLYM ones performed around FOMO) and do the rest of the show with only "inspired" songs.

To me one offs shows like this could be an opportunity for it (hense why I'm disapointed when the same old gets performed in such events. Just look at when she was present at a Jazz and Blues Festival some years ago - she likes performing those genres (at least I have gotten that impression) and she's mighty good at it too. Yet none of the songs in her setlist that night where new ones from those genres (Paganini was already a part of Vegas).

Hence why im dying for an Anti-Tour

July 7, 2019 at 06:55 PM

My only gripe with the way she’s singing PQTME is I wish she would stick to the original melody line! I get that she’s probably sick of hearing it but I wish she would sing it the way it was recorded.

July 7, 2019 at 07:04 PM

Agree. I really don't like how she's doing it. It'll be interesting to see how she does it for a French audience.

it was such a beautiful song and she really seriously messed up the song with the stupid adlibs and phrasing..

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July 7, 2019 at 07:06 PM

My only gripe with the way she's singing PQTME is I wish she would stick to the original melody line! I get that she's probably sick of hearing it but I wish she would sing it the way it was recorded.

it was such a beautiful song and she really seriously messed up the song with the stupid adlibs and phrasing..

I happen to think she only made it better.

More adlibs, not less, please.

July 7, 2019 at 07:12 PM

That would be a true dream.... :wub:

Her current setlist is a mausoleum, grand and graceful but somewhat stale and empty. We need more soul back in her setlists. And to be honest I think she needs to. She must be bored as hell. Imagine singing the same songs in the same style night after night, year after year….

And as much as I love live releases, there's really not much point in having tons of releases with the same songs.

Hence why im dying for an Anti-Tour

July 7, 2019 at 07:13 PM

I happen to think she only made it better.
More adlibs, not less, please.

better???? really??? come on, you can’t be serious! it is awful this new version. The original version is a masterpiece and wht she did with it now - i am sure the French fans despise this version as well. Some songs should not be messed with.

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July 7, 2019 at 07:19 PM

at 11:28 this thing what she does with that sentence and at 11:38 this weird singing....that is just a big no for me

https://youtu.be/m1jEpowR2_0

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July 7, 2019 at 07:23 PM

Her current setlist is a mausoleum, grand and graceful but somewhat stale and empty. We need more soul back in her setlists. And to be honest I think she needs to. She must be bored as hell. Imagine singing the same songs in the same style night after night, year after year….

That's why she likes to sing these songs with slight changes.

To me, the most important us that she can still sings like she used to be. She's proven us last friday evening

And that's it. Basta.

July 7, 2019 at 07:26 PM

better???? really??? come on, you can’t be serious!

Absolutely serious.

I have little interest in hearing the same songs done exactly the same way every single show. It you want it straight, listen to the record. I expect it to be different every time I hear it. That, to me, is the mark of a true artist. So yes, absolutely. The more improv, the better, in my books. Hands down.

July 7, 2019 at 07:26 PM

TR always was my favorite, and she nails it every time.

Sometimes she has a different way of pronouncing the words and changing some tiny bits an that's making it special.

Like Friday night

'but an angel was looking through, oooohh it was you! Yeaaah you!' :wub:

You the one and ONLY reason.

:wub:

Examples how she is making this song special.

I keep on repeating myself (and will continue) about how superb The Reason has turned out to be lately. Starting from last year it has risen above anything it's been before. I've never thought it worked live before and frankly I was hoping for her to completely let it go or do some drastic changes (like building the choruses from a soft one in the beginning of the song to a full power one at the end). But somehow (and despite the cringy trumpets in the refrain - I'm not all against horns: I looooove the ones at the intro and outro).

Can someone please help me put the finger on what has changed about The Reason. From being a boorefest it has become THE highlight of her current setlist (even when TT is around).

EDIT:
And on the "vocal debate" I am so glad she has left all the "screaming" from the TC tour behind her. I like very much how she sounds now, her runs at the end of IACBTM and in the beginning of Ashes for example are soooo dreamy.

July 7, 2019 at 07:30 PM

Yes same here!!!

Listening doing her soundcheck and hear some tiny little different things is soooo much more worth than the same record played.

Even BYLM and IACBTMN were great.

I mean we the crazy diehards know exactly how some songs sound live, we can do all the little runs and ooohs and aaahs, they haven't changed for years.

And when she does something a bit different you can see the surprised faces of the crazy fans, looking at each other with the look that says 'did you hear that'

Absolutely serious.
I have little interest in hearing the same songs done exactly the same way every single show. It you want it straight, listen to the record. I expect it to be different every time I hear it. That, to me, is the mark of a true artist. So yes, absolutely. The more improv, the better, in my books. Hands down.

July 7, 2019 at 07:52 PM

I love all the adlibs, it doesn't ruin the songs at all. And it shows everyone that it's a slight variation so you can see it's live. It's great when she changes it up a bit any of her songs.

July 7, 2019 at 07:56 PM

Absolutely serious.
I have little interest in hearing the same songs done exactly the same way every single show. It you want it straight, listen to the record. I expect it to be different every time I hear it. That, to me, is the mark of a true artist. So yes, absolutely. The more improv, the better, in my books. Hands down.

The only complaint I have with the improv is when it becomes the norm. She's been singing PQTME this way since the Asia tour now, the same rolling of the r's and the jouer-nononono. :giggle:

Edited July 7, 2019 at 07:57 PM by CelineDionForeverNY

July 7, 2019 at 08:42 PM

The only complaint I have with the improv is when it becomes the norm. She's been singing PQTME this way since the Asia tour now, the same rolling of the r's and the jouer-nononono.

Fair. Ideally, I'd like to see her do something slightly different with each song every time.

But she has never been conditioned / raised to be an improvising performer, so I'm just glad she is at least making slow progress I'm that direction. Hopefully she'll grow into it and do more with time.

July 7, 2019 at 10:06 PM

it was such a beautiful song and she really seriously messed up the song with the stupid adlibs and phrasing..

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I don't know if she's just doing it because it's an English audience and she just feels she has to throw a French song in there.but I wish she'd stop. And the reason I feel this way is because I really feel Rene and team pounded into her head about keeping her French side under wraps.

I remember reading on the forum about how it was being butchered in Vegas and I thought it was harsh but then I went to Vegas and heard it for myself. Yikes! I thought maybe it was just because it was Vegas also, lol. ( I commented on it, )

July 7, 2019 at 10:10 PM

I don't know if she's just doing it because it's an English audience and she just feels she has to throw a French song in there.but I wish she'd stop. And the reason I feel this way is because I really feel Rene and team pounded into her head about keeping her French side under wraps.
I remember reading on the forum about how it was being butchered in Vegas and I thought it was harsh but then I went to Vegas and heard it for myself. Yikes! I thought maybe it was just because it was Vegas also, lol. ( I commented on it, )

I wish they’d throw in EUS. It’s a Goldman song soooo I don’t see why it wouldn’t work. Andddd it’s new!

July 7, 2019 at 10:19 PM

I don't know if this picture was already shared here.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BznzvT4BW_m/?igshid=1aq7qmysch4pf

It was taken by the General Manager of the hotel in London.

July 7, 2019 at 10:19 PM

I'm all for changing things up a bit but for me PQTME is a no touch, besides it's THE only French song from her repertoire we get when she's on non French soil. Please Celine, go play around with your 50 millionth time singing MHWGO, BYLM ect ect.....

July 7, 2019 at 10:20 PM

Did she do any meet and greets in London?

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July 7, 2019 at 10:21 PM

I like the way she plays with PQTME... It's a nice change...

July 7, 2019 at 10:36 PM

So did anyone here go to see Babs tonight? If so, how was it?

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