Celine (Las Vegas show) [ends: June 8th, 2019] - Official topic

[andrecb]

It's called, GETTING OLD

 

It's not "getting old".

Her voice changed a lot when she started to sing in Vegas, from 2003 to 2004.

Edited November 9, 2016 at 04:20 PM by andrecb

[flutefreak]

I didn't know where to put this but why the F😱😧K have the Redheads posted a picture on their Facebook and Instagram of Céline with Trump, today of all days?!! Talk about bad PR!!

 

I know, I was like don't bring her into this!

[scielle]

There are no jokes to be made here. This is terrifying.

[ryba]

Is it real though? It looks like photoshop (look and her hair and the light)

[LukeD]

We all have to remember that normal people don't listen to multiple bootlegs from all different nights...we are just the crazy bunch that would and the casual concert goer is not going to be as bored by the set list as those of us who incessantly listen to try and find new changes.

True. We should not even be paying attention to constant criticisms coming from people who have only listened to bootlegs of the show.

I have listened only one bootleg of the current Vegas show since its is opening in 2011, the one of the premiere, and I thought since the first day that this show is boring. Extremely boring. And I didn't need then nor now to listen any more bootlegs to change my mind (despite the small changes introduced here and there), it is still boring.

Give me the setlist of the summer tour anytime, and I know and acknowledge that that show IS exciting, very exciting

Why would anyone give you that? You have never paid a single ticket to see Celine.

I think my answers are also polite Anyway I won't keep having this conversation over and over again, opinions are not facts, a fact is that A New Day album sold 9M when ATW had sold 23, LTAL 32 and FIY 31. Still Celine managed to be the second best female artist seller in the 00s only behind Britney (at her prime then) and all that despite Las Vegas. I can't think on any other artist with such a success in two consecutive decades, with or without Vegas her career would have been pretty much the same after 2002. But according to your Vegas theory, why the international career of Mariah Carey or Christina Aguilera (I could mention a few more) are almost nonexistent if they were never in Vegas?

Numbers speak louder than what people want to believe. Congrats for bringing actual facts to the discussion! Much needed in the forum of drama and inaccuracies.

Not to mention, that while she was all over the place for the promo of the ANDHC album, the title track didn't crack the top 10 on the hot 100 in the US.

 

Do not forget ''I'm Alive'' which did not even enter BB Hot 100. So much for radios supporting her!

 

Ah... So nice to see people confirming what I have been saying in the ANDHC thread.

Edited November 9, 2016 at 06:12 PM by LukeD

[CelinesDIVO5]

When I say that her international career is "dead" I'm referring to her English albums, not the French career. Those are two different worlds and I think we both know those are two different careers. I'm amazed and delighted as everyone about how great she's doing with her French albums, everytime she releases one, and despite the absolute lack of support from her record label.

 

But in terms of her international career (outside France and the French speaking countries) things are very different, since years ago. LMBTL was a flop overall, it only got some attention in the UK, which is great because that's one of the main markets worldwide, but still... the fact is that no radios play her music since late 2003. In a way, she turned her back to the international showbusiness when she decided to sing in Vegas and do that kind of show, which barely included the new music she released. Radios can't play a new single from an artist that for starters is not singing the new single in her shows

 

We all know Vegas has brought coverland to her concert setlists, performing and recording dozens of random covers both in Vegas and when touring, instead of believing in her own music and the new songs she records each time she has a new album, etc etc.

 

Yeah, Celine is an album seller, but she's not a singles seller just because she didn't want to. Once the promotion for OH finished with its last single (One Heart in June 2003) until she came back with new English music in september 2007 with Taking Chances, that's more than 4 years without new music. Do you think this would have been done by Mariah or Madonna (to name artists of similar level and sales)? No way. And radios don't forgive, neither.

 

Staying 4 years out of the market without releasing new music is one of the biggest mistakes she has done while being in Vegas. That would have never entered in the heads of any active artist of her category like Madonna or Mariah. So it was too much time without a new English single. She was so busy in her Vegas bubble. But radios don't forgive, that's the truth. And coming back in 2007 with another cover, that weak single which was Taking Chances, that was the straw that broke the camel's back, I'm afraid. Radios don't give any credibility to an artist that keeps releasing covers as a single on a constant basis

 

In 2002, her "comeback" single "A New Day Has Come" didn't break the top 20 in the US, while it's follow up peaked at 111 on the HOT100. In 2003, her single "I Drove All Night" didn't even chart in the top 40. Not to mention, Celine doesn't release her singles on her own. Sony has the final say, as we saw with the change in concept at the 11th hour for the LMBTL album. P.S. LMBTL sold better internationally than in the US itself...so I'm still not following this "dead international career" theory.

Edited November 9, 2016 at 06:27 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[comingback]

I didn't know where to put this but why the FK have the Redheads posted a picture on their Facebook and Instagram of Céline with Trump, today of all days?!! Talk about bad PR!!

 

 

The Red Heads

 

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Be relieved guys, we fired our community manager, who thought that joke was hillaryous.����

C'est réglé, notre CM s'est trumpé, il pensait que sa photo était Hillaryous..#CelineDion

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVQB5-VjL9g

[Javito]

Why would anyone give you that? You have never paid a single ticket to see Celine.

 

As if I needed that to appreciate how a concert is and opine if I like it or not. And don't expect me to pay for a ticket to see her in Vegas with the current show, dear

 

 

Do not forget ''I'm Alive'' which did not even enter BB Hot 100. So much for radios supporting her!

 

Ah... So nice to see people confirming what I have been saying in the ANDHC thread.

 

Ah, yes, you mean one person (who says amen to everything you say, your dear "husband") is "people" now. And again you reduce the success of an album dependant on how it performs in the US charts, as if it was the only market. How rational. Well let me remind you that the world is bigger and wider than the US, and that ANDHC charted and was #1 in many other radios and charts throughout the world (that I'm not even going to list know because it's useless at this point)

 

Poor I'm Alive, for a song that is the last Celine Dion single next with IDAN that people can remember being played and having a chance on radios worldwide... What a pity!

[incognito]

Is it real though? It looks like photoshop (look and her hair and the light)

 

The Trump photo? No. Google image search celine and Donald Trump...several pics of them together.

[LukeD]

As if I needed that to appreciate how a concert is and opine if I like it or not. And don't expect me to pay for a ticket to see her in Vegas with the current show, dear

 

 

 

Ah, yes, you mean one person (who says amen to everything you say, your dear "husband") is "people" now. And again you reduce the success of an album dependant on how it performs in the US charts, as if it was the only market. How rational. Well let me remind you that the world is bigger and wider than the US, and that ANDHC charted and was #1 in many other radios and charts throughout the world (that I'm not even going to list know because it's useless at this point)

 

Poor I'm Alive, for a song that is the last Celine Dion single next with IDAN that people can remember being played and having a chance on radios worldwide... What a pity!

Why would anyone give you a setlist you like is the question.

 

Did you even read the posts of manu23? Thumbed up by over 10 members. It is not just Matthew. But I find it funny you thought it is just one person.

 

Yes, these songs had worldwide radio support and I will not even bother.

Edited November 9, 2016 at 09:17 PM by LukeD

[LukeD]

LMBTL sold better internationally than in the US itself...so I'm still not following this "dead international career" theory.

My Love: The Essential Collection also sold more outside United States. Charts in UK for a good 8 years now. Canada, Europe and even Africa are markets Celine can count on.

 

The decline in her career is natural. And healthy. Not much of an issue IMO. Celine is never considered a flop, she is selling as much as current singers (if not more), her catalogue music always ranks high and - most importantly - she has never come off as a lesser of prime Celine!

Edited November 9, 2016 at 10:42 PM by LukeD

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

As if I needed that to appreciate how a concert is and opine if I like it or not. And don't expect me to pay for a ticket to see her in Vegas with the current show, dear

 

 

 

Ah, yes, you mean one person (who says amen to everything you say, your dear "husband") is "people" now. And again you reduce the success of an album dependant on how it performs in the US charts, as if it was the only market. How rational. Well let me remind you that the world is bigger and wider than the US, and that ANDHC charted and was #1 in many other radios and charts throughout the world (that I'm not even going to list know because it's useless at this point)

 

Poor I'm Alive, for a song that is the last Celine Dion single next with IDAN that people can remember being played and having a chance on radios worldwide... What a pity!

 

Luke and I actually disagree quite often on here...but you only use the examples that would prove your point. You know, since you're so objective and all.

[DionFanAlways]

These reports about her canceling shows keep saying "bed rest" surely it can't be that bad. I wonder if it's due to exhaustion?

[Del]

but she is so rich , she could have bought some products against that

Well we all saw her Botox impressions on TEOTW. Haha

 

These reports about her canceling shows keep saying "bed rest" surely it can't be that bad. I wonder if it's due to exhaustion?

Had It been right after the Summer maybe but she just came back from time off. Wonder if she actually had time off or had her prep for the English album. Hopefully she will be back up and healthy in no time.

[jpatdeleon09]

Well we all saw her Botox impressions on TEOTW. Haha

 

 

What's TEOTW?

[jpatdeleon09]

I thought botox relaxes muscles.. as well the vocal chords?

[scielle]

The Trump photo? No. Google image search celine and Donald Trump...several pics of them together.

 

It's just a photo op. One of many she has done with thousands of people - famous and otherwise - over the years. And this is from years ago; long before he went off his rocker and showed his true horrifying colours. That being said, posting these photos today does absolutely no service to Celine, whichever side of the political divide you stand on, so The Red Heads (and other 'fan groups') posting this today is a quizzical choice.

 

Interesting that La Famille Dion (run by Claudette and / or Ghislaine, I think?), posted this in response to RH's photo -

"La Famille Dion Bonjour The Red Heads, nous tenions à informer que nous ne partageons absolument pas les idéologies politiques suivantes. Nous n'en dirons davantage. Et nous vous remercions de bien vouloir parler en votre nom, et non celui de notre sœur. Avec toute notre admiration et notre respect ! - Équipe La Famille Dion "

 

I'm glad Celine has refrained from getting politically involved but think her then-reaction the the Bush administration tells you everything you need to know. And I take heart in the fact that RC follows Bernie (and politically speaking, the apple rarely falls far from the tree).

 

In any case, I shall now go sulk and try to somehow rekindle my faith in humankind.

 

Back to regularly scheduled programming.

 

Hope she gets better soon! She's been working herself ragged for months; I'm surprised she managed to stay healthy as long as she did. I would have gotten sick several times over if I had to deal with Celine's levels of stress this past year.

Edited November 10, 2016 at 06:15 AM by scielle

[Kristinaz]

FYI I checked AXS tonight. Friday's show now has tickets available to buy. When I checked at around 2pm it still said sold out...now it doesn't don't know if that means anything but just thought I'd let everyone know.

[CelineTheBest5]

FYI I checked AXS tonight. Friday's show now has tickets available to buy. When I checked at around 2pm it still said sold out...now it doesn't don't know if that means anything but just thought I'd let everyone know.

Not now.......

[Melanieletitia]

I've been checking for the past two days religiously. The day before yesterday there was only one ticket left for sale for Friday. Then yesterday it said sold out. Now earlier today there was one ticket left for sale (a different seat than the one that was available the other day) and when I checked not too long ago it was back to saying sold out. Edited November 10, 2016 at 04:26 PM by Melanieletitia

[Kristinaz]

Not now.......

 

Looks like seats are on and off available. Still nothing from Caesars/The Colosseum and it's the day before so that might be a good sign

 

I've been checking for the past two days religiously. The day before yesterday there was only one ticket left for sale for Friday. Then yesterday it said sold out. Now earlier today there was one ticket left for sale (a different seat than the one that was available the other day) and when I checked not too long ago it was back to saying sold out.

[Melanieletitia]

 

 

Looks like seats are on and off available. Still nothing from Caesars/The Colosseum and it's the day before so that might be a good sign

 

It ain't a bad sign!

[nuts2you]

First welcome to the forum, its always good to have new blood in here once in awhile,

[Melanieletitia]

First welcome to the forum, its always good to have new blood in here once in awhile,

 

You talkin' to me? Haha wasn't sure if I should introduce myself or what!

[nuts2you]

yes , welcome with Open Arms

[nuts2you]

Just and Update I 've just checked AXS web-site for Fri shows and it says SOLD OUT , So Im not sure what going on , is she still on for Friday Night show or what

[MissHillCountry]

11th and 12 th are cancelled

[nuts2you]

http://www.axs.com/series/44/celine-dion-at-the-colosseum-tickets?skin=celinedion

 

Here is an update ,

[Melanieletitia]

I'm supposed to see her on the 16th and I'm so afraid it's going to be cancelled. Been waiting all year for this.

[dodobird]

Well we all saw her Botox impressions on TEOTW. Haha

 

Had It been right after the Summer maybe but she just came back from time off. Wonder if she actually had time off or had her prep for the English album. Hopefully she will be back up and healthy in no time.

 

Ok I'm completely and utterly useless...what on earth is TEOTW?? I'm horribe with titles