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I watched the video yesterday and was very touched by the first part with the photos and the candles. The second part shows very much that she'll still in the grieving moment. I'm not sure how I feel about the 2nd part of the video. One part of me just wants to hug her as she seems broken while the other part thinks should it not be a private family moment. I am still trying to process the whole thing. Edited by Del
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The most incredible love story ever! At least to me.
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That's very powerful what you said. ^

 

Years ago as a young girl Celine slept with Rene's picture in hopes to have him one day. Then she had him for some amazing and very great years. Now it's sort of she same full circle as if her entire life with Rene was just one amazing dream she lived, including her career and children with him. I never thought about it that way it's very sad.

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That's very powerful what you said. ^

 

Years ago as a young girl Celine slept with Rene's picture in hopes to have him one day. Then she had him for some amazing and very great years. Now it's sort of she same full circle as if her entire life with Rene was just one amazing dream she lived, including her career and children with him. I never thought about it that way it's very sad.

Thank you, ` came full circle` that was the expression I was looking for. Celine`s story with him is just that. I just don`t think that it was sad. Of course his suffering and passing is very sad . But think about it, she had the man of her dreams love her as well, she shared a life , a career and 3 incredible children with him. She had his love and support until his passing. Not many people are able to say that they loved and were loved by that special person with the same intensity. Now she has her boys and many years of great memories with him to pull her through. As I said before one of the best love stories ever!

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Not only has she a cast of Rene's hand, but also her parents, her kids and her own.

If i can remember the one of Rene was made when RC was 4 months old.

 

 

 

Well, it must be a cultural thing then. Because what I find odd is that the French apparently feel her cast of Rene's hand is "eccentric" (according to that NRJ show last night). Seriously?! If that's so, then I must have a lot of very eccentric friends, because they all have casts of their babies' hands and feet.

 

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Video so powerful! Very, very great tribute to Rene! And the interpretation of My Love (from SIA) in acapella was just too great, it was just magic and so cool for our ears.

 

It sure that Rene will be pround of Celine for all her strong, during the last year and for the next year!

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Encore un soir..

Encore une heure..

Encore une larme de bonheur..

Un soir..

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Just finished watching the video that she posted. I would like very much to share my thoughts. First I have to say that I had been expecting her to post something all day. Rene is , as she writes, her life, and today is a very special day.I was not surprised when I saw she had posted a video. If you read what she wrote and consider the lirics in the song ( Sia of course) you can clearly see how deep it goes. Of course she is trying to be strong , personally, professionally and especially for her boys. All year long she has done nothing but try to be strong, and show the world that she is ok. However you don`t just move on from a 36 year old relationship and a 22 year old happy marriage,Rene is and in my opinion, will always be the love of her life. Who cares what the media will say. Celine has always been intense in her feelings , relationships and in her life . She has never been light and discreet. Her marriage was a huge event in Canada, her renewal of vows was so intense it had cammels at the party, her children were a huge deal as well. Now tell me, how could loosing the man of her life be different? This is for sure the most deep and romantic video I have ever seen. First what she writes- My heart still calls you, I hear you , you are my life. Now English RIP should mean return if possible. The lirics of the song says it all. She knows he is better now, but he still means the world to her,

The video shows the heart pillow that he gave her and that she used when he passed. Tons of pictures and you can see her her crying.It comes from the heart. Now, is it over the top? yes it is .....its Celine how could it be different? I just have to say this is one of the most beautiful love stories I have ever seen and that Celine has my admiration and support. I could care less what the media will say, they always say what they want to anyway so .... who cares. Rene, you loved and were very loved in return, Rest In |Peace

 

Amen! Really well said! I much prefer genuine artist like Celine who doesn't give a rat's a... what the media say than a phony one who carefully orchestrates her every move in order to get the best reaction from the crowd and media. I agree, the video is a tad awkward at places but who cares? Isn't love awkward? Isn't life and death awkward?

 

I'd say GO GIRL, we're right behind you ;)

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I know that yesterday and today are probably very sad days for Celine. However, in my humble opinion both Celine and her fans should focus on the amazing life she had with Rene. Come on they had a great 21 year old run (not to mention before)! They had so many incredible momemts together , that I am sure that Rene wants her to focus on them and not on the sadness. I remember so many great moments. My all time favorite is at the last millenium concert (2000) where she is on stage and Rene had already left the stage and she says Happy New Year my love , give me a kiss. Rene goes near the stage , opens his arms like saying how are we going to do this? Celine just lies down on the stage in order to be at Renes level and gives him a big kiss. That was such a cute moment, of course I am sure you all remember many others!
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I'm sorry but that video made me laugh it was a strange freaky looking video. Sometimes I just wonder what is going through her head

 

Mainly intense grief. I thought the video made that pretty clear!

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I found the video difficult to watch, and I couldn't really understand a lot of what she was singing. But she obviously wanted to do it. She sounded soooo emotional. Painful.

 

The 'Golden Hand' just seems over the top to me, but every person has their own ways to grieve.

 

I love her.

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I hate to say it but I found that a capella of My Love to be torturous on the ears! The combination of screaming, raspiness and Sia mimicking was just awful. What was she thinking?? She needs to get over this mad Sia obsession and bring back the Céline we love!
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When some of us say it was staged, we mean that it isn't just a secret camera that caught her in the action. It is directed, which moves, which scene follows the previous, which angles were chosen. And since this is the case, this is what causes the criticism or not. Of course and always based on personal taste. I think no one questions her feelings and her sincerety. Just her way to express it in a planned in advance video. Not her natural expression caught let's say by a paparazzi..

 

Yes this is what I wanted to say last night but was so exhausted (it was 2am here) I wanted to say that her actual tears and such were not staged that was true emotion. While she was very much aware of the camera I would be interested in finding out how the idea came to be.

 

A thought. I was reading the lirics to the song and looking at these pictures again.It ocurred to me how Celine`s life is really unique. When she was young she fell asleep kissing and holding Rene`s photograph. Many many years later here she is doing the exact same thing with pictures of the same man. The only difference is that now she has a lifetime of memories with him to think about. Is it just me or is this not the most incredible love story ever? For sure it would make a great stage play or movie.

 

Wow I never knew that. So beautifully put.

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I've had a chance to see it today.. I can't stand in judgment because I think this is an honest expression of her feelings for Celine. I do think she wears her heart on her sleeve even if she has channeled some sentiments into the stock stories and phrases that we hear over and over again in interviews. When I reread her book ( My Story, My Dream), I was stuck by how emphatic she was about the unshakable bond and love that she has for Rene. She said then it was for life and so I guess this is another illustration of that. But, it was difficult to watch at times. I did avoid the comments from the public because I know where they will go and what they will say. If Celine avoids them, I will follow her lead! I don't like the raspy tone in her voice, but I guess this is what she feels.

 

I wasn't a fan of the elaborate vow renewal and I do think they should have done that without cameras, I did not feel the same way about this, but I do feel sad for her. I do think that the future will be less fraught and the memories will be brighter as time passes. I wouldn't be upset if she found someone else in the coming years at all, but I begin to feel that she told us the story about that already in her book ( i.e. she doesn't expect that).

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I hate to say it but I found that a capella of My Love to be torturous on the ears! The combination of screaming, raspiness and Sia mimicking was just awful. What was she thinking?? She needs to get over this mad Sia obsession and bring back the Céline we love!

 

I totally agree.

 

It wasn't necessary to act in the video. Showing photos or old footage was enough. I'll never watch this again.

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Grieving someone you love on the anniversary day and deciding to grieve him/her in whatever way pleases you the most, that's not being selfish at all :mellow: :mellow: :mellow: . Including not doing anything at all that day. Or even if you don't feel like talking with anybody. As if it had been a problem if she had remained completely silent today! It's her most private life.

 

If she hadn't personally shared any video in facebook not her official website, who would have called her selfish? Who are anybody to call her selfish for that? That's absolutely her private life, and I'm not considering her any more generous or kind for sharing such a private and intimate video with the world or not. She decided to, well, I appreciate that. But calling this action an act of generosity, wow, that are such big words. You guys are idealising Celine Dion some times as if she was... a saint? Well sorry to remid you this but she's a human being, like the rest of us :)

 

 

 

Perhaps selfish was the wrong word to use. I'm sorry. I am not very good at trying to express my thoughts in words and sometimes they come out wrong. I wasn't trying to call Celine selfish, or imply that anyone is selfish if they choose to keep these personal moments to themselves. Of course not. People can grieve any way they choose. All I meant is that I thought it was rather generous and kind for Celine to share a part of this day with the fans. Showing us the room he passed away in and the pillow she put under him after he passed. These are all very personal things.

 

All I was trying to say was that Celine could have easily kept this day to herself, but she chose to share it with the world. I'm not just referring to the video that she posted yesterday, but just generally. Celine is an open book and she chooses to share her most difficult and personal details with the public. That in its self is a selfless act.

 

I apologize if I offended anyone in any way. That was not my intention. No one is in any way selfish if they choose that they don't want to share something, when they're grieving or ever. Everyone is different and everyone processes and deals with things in there own way. I hope I didn't offend anyone. If I did, I am truly sorry. :)

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I watched the video with mixed feelings. First of all I want to say that I am really sad for her. This video shows to me the mourning has now gotten in higher gear after a year of staying strong as a means of surviving the blow.

 

The shows in Vegas last year, which started far too soon after the funeral, were hard for her, very hard. But the summer tour is where she found comfort in her songs and in the love from her fans and public, which helped her to get strength, energy and a little distraction from the pain (and in the same time a very healthy way of grieving through music and song).

 

She looked happier and more alive as the tour progressed. But now, after exactly one year, there is the inevitable confrontation with the harsh reality. That's what I am hearing in her voice, and seeing in her eyes.

 

The RIP (return if possible) shows the underlying struggle to accept his death as a reality on a deeper level. Don't be fooled people, the always strong appearing Celine (where it seemed that she was accepting the reality really quickly) was just her way of surviving. It's what helped her get through year one.

 

Now comes the hardest part. This is the message she is (consciously or unconsciously) conveying to the public. "I am not ready to move on, I am not ready to let go." It really breaks my heart.

 

But.... because she is in this fragile state, she is not able to oversee the effect this video is going to have. Although lots of people, including me, understand this is her way of mourning, also lots of other people see this as a way of seeking attention, and making a show out of her life.

 

This is not her intention, but it is in a way, how she lives. It suits her character. The kitschy renewal of her vows in 2000 is evidence of this. She needs this extravaganza sometimes, which seems awkward to a lot of people. This is just typical Celine. It's not my favourite part of her character either, but it is, when you really think about it, what actually makes her special and thus authentic.

 

It's just too bad that this is not seen this way by a lot of people at all, but seen as exactly the opposite: phony, fake and unauthentic.

 

And for me, this video is awkward to watch. Even if I understand it is typically her, I can't help it. So the truly heartfelt sadness and sympathy combined with the awkwardness makes it hard for me to watch.

 

And what's most painful to me, is that she is not singing with her own voice and her pronounciation, but with Sia's and several other young singers', about her deepest feelings of grief for the man she loves. It's just painful. I'm sorry. While she couldn't be more authentic in her voice than in her french summer tour, she is now literally singing with somebody else's voice. I will never understand this, I'm afraid. But I respect her decision, but it is painful to me.

 

I fear her next album is gonna be Loved Me Back To Life vol. 2.... But that's another discussion.

 

I hope the pain will soon turn into thankfulness for the time she had with him, so she can move on and be happy once more, but that takes time. For now, it is okay to be sad, to miss him and to feel like a part of you has died, which of course is true. This is natural. But one day the sun will shine again. And i'm sure she'll fall in love again. She is just not ready now to even think about it, so she can't imagine it now, but she will... in time...

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the video was hard to watch but some comments are worst. I would wish in that circumstance that people would accept and not judge People can have an opinion but everyone is living his life the way it comes. I would not do a video like that , it is not me , but if Celine was feeling like it , why not.
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Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
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And for me, this video is awkward to watch. Even if I understand it is typically her, I can't help it. So the truly heartfelt sadness and sympathy combined with the awkwardness makes it hard for me to watch.

 

And what's most painful to me, is that she is not singing with her own voice and her pronounciation, but with Sia's and several other young singers', about her deepest feelings of grief for the man she loves. It's just painful. I'm sorry. While she couldn't be more authentic in her voice than in her french summer tour, she is now literally singing with somebody else's voice. I will never understand this, I'm afraid. But I respect her decision, but it is painful to me.

My thoughts exactly.... I respect her intention here but mimicking Sia especially in this particular occasion is for me way to much!

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By the way, by saying: 'I hope the pain will soon turn into thankfulness... etc.' I am not saying she is not thankful now. I am just saying that in time pain (although never truly gone) will turn into acceptance and then the thankfulness is what remains.

 

Before someone misinterprets this phrase as a harsh uncompassionate statement...

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My thoughts exactly.... I respect her intention here but mimicking Sia especially in this particular occasion is for me way to much!

 

I agree. Is she singing this way or is her staff that let her sing this way? Let's say that since the EUS album she doesn't sound like her. And they often change her vocals (though I think she's the one who doesn't want to be perfect at first, anymore). She seems she's chasing something and missing it... the song with the music is very beautiful.

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Do you think that Rene was a fan of the raspy voice since he was certainly involved in LMBTL? That perplexes me because it is so different from the sweet, pure sound that she is known for. I remember them talking about it on Katie Couric back then and I was already hoping that they would move on quickly from this style.. It doesn't seem like it would be good for the voice, either..
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Perhaps this is the state of her voice? The raspiness has been creeping in more and more I notice. Edited by DionFanAlways
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I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
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Here's my 'romantic' view on all that : Celine has defined herself by certain parameters pretty much her whole life. One of these parameters was Rene. No matter what was happening around her, Rene was a constant in her life (albeit in different roles from time to time)....while she was still unknown and was trying to make it as a singer, when she was enjoying success beyond her wildest dreams, when she decided to go to Vegas, when she was struggling to have a kid, when her dad passed, when she decided to go on a world tour, when she wanted another baby, when she went back to Vegas etc.....Rene was constantly an anchor, guiding her every decision. It's almost as if she was looking to Rene go help her define who she is. Now, that anchor is gone. No matter how much she says that she lives with Rene in a different way, Rene (physically) is not there anymore. So she has to redefine herself on many different levels. This is hard. Oh boy it's really hard. So we all have to accept that is going to take some experimentation, even some 'not-so-perfect' moves until she redefines who she is as a person, as a woman, as an artist. This might mean a French or an English album unlike the ones we are used to, extravagant wardrobe and over-the-top-Law-inspired looks that don't necessarily express who she really is, constant repetition of well-rehearsed 'safe' phrases in interviews etc etc.

 

So I guess what I am trying to say is that if we truly are fans, we are going to let her be human for a while. Let her make decisions that we consider to be mistakes, let her try looks that some of us thing are completely wrong, let her make awkward Facebook videos, let her try new things with her voice and so on. She has certainly earned the right to do so. I think that when she says "I don't need to prove myself anymore" I think that's part of what she means. "I am who I am and I have earned the right to do whatever I want. I have spent the last 35 years trying to please you (you= her fans and the media) and now I deserve to listen to MY needs and not anybody else's".

 

In my book, this translates to a maturity that many artists lack and I'm quite sure that we haven't yet seen the best of Celine. Rene was undoubtedly a huge influence and a deciding factor in many aspects of what we now call "Celine Dion" but now we will start seeing what she really is without anyone's influence. We need to admit that Rene was a very strong personality and while I am a BIG admirer of their story, maybe, just maybe, sometimes Celine suppressed what she was or what she wanted to express in order to please him.

 

Being the eternal optimist and hopeless romantic that I am, I really do believe that we have yet to see the real (and possibly best) Celine. And now, we are closer than ever. She is a truly remarkable person and artist and if anything (in my book) she has earned the right to experiment until she stands on her own two feet again, this time as Celine Dion and not as Celine Dion, protege/lover/wife of someone else.

really well said, we need to accept.
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Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
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This is why I'm glad to see this video - divisive as it is.

 

The bottom line is, whether you think it's beautiful or awkward, it's pretty clear it came straight from her. And the fact that she's willing to take creative risks and be the driving force behind what she puts out there is very encouraging. She's clearly experimenting, and while that might mean some false starts, it can't be a bad thing.

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Here's my 'romantic' view on all that : Celine has defined herself by certain parameters pretty much her whole life. One of these parameters was Rene. No matter what was happening around her, Rene was a constant in her life (albeit in different roles from time to time)....while she was still unknown and was trying to make it as a singer, when she was enjoying success beyond her wildest dreams, when she decided to go to Vegas, when she was struggling to have a kid, when her dad passed, when she decided to go on a world tour, when she wanted another baby, when she went back to Vegas etc.....Rene was constantly an anchor, guiding her every decision. It's almost as if she was looking to Rene go help her define who she is. Now, that anchor is gone. No matter how much she says that she lives with Rene in a different way, Rene (physically) is not there anymore. So she has to redefine herself on many different levels. This is hard. Oh boy it's really hard. So we all have to accept that is going to take some experimentation, even some 'not-so-perfect' moves until she redefines who she is as a person, as a woman, as an artist. This might mean a French or an English album unlike the ones we are used to, extravagant wardrobe and over-the-top-Law-inspired looks that don't necessarily express who she really is, constant repetition of well-rehearsed 'safe' phrases in interviews etc etc.

 

So I guess what I am trying to say is that if we truly are fans, we are going to let her be human for a while. Let her make decisions that we consider to be mistakes, let her try looks that some of us thing are completely wrong, let her make awkward Facebook videos, let her try new things with her voice and so on. She has certainly earned the right to do so. I think that when she says "I don't need to prove myself anymore" I think that's part of what she means. "I am who I am and I have earned the right to do whatever I want. I have spent the last 35 years trying to please you (you= her fans and the media) and now I deserve to listen to MY needs and not anybody else's".

 

In my book, this translates to a maturity that many artists lack and I'm quite sure that we haven't yet seen the best of Celine. Rene was undoubtedly a huge influence and a deciding factor in many aspects of what we now call "Celine Dion" but now we will start seeing what she really is without anyone's influence. We need to admit that Rene was a very strong personality and while I am a BIG admirer of their story, maybe, just maybe, sometimes Celine suppressed what she was or what she wanted to express in order to please him.

 

Being the eternal optimist and hopeless romantic that I am, I really do believe that we have yet to see the real (and possibly best) Celine. And now, we are closer than ever. She is a truly remarkable person and artist and if anything (in my book) she has earned the right to experiment until she stands on her own two feet again, this time as Celine Dion and not as Celine Dion, protege/lover/wife of someone else.

Beautifully said! And I agree on all levels! She needs to find her way, and that may mean a shakier Céline then we're used to. In some ways I feel like Rene helped make quite a bit of the decisions for her, so now she has to choose what to do and when to do it. I'm gonna with her every step of the way, because she needs her fans to let her know we're there, and that she's doing the right thing!

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I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!

Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant! post-26465-0-84517800-1427302581_thumb.gif

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Here's my 'romantic' view on all that : Celine has defined herself by certain parameters pretty much her whole life. One of these parameters was Rene. No matter what was happening around her, Rene was a constant in her life (albeit in different roles from time to time)....while she was still unknown and was trying to make it as a singer, when she was enjoying success beyond her wildest dreams, when she decided to go to Vegas, when she was struggling to have a kid, when her dad passed, when she decided to go on a world tour, when she wanted another baby, when she went back to Vegas etc.....Rene was constantly an anchor, guiding her every decision. It's almost as if she was looking to Rene go help her define who she is. Now, that anchor is gone. No matter how much she says that she lives with Rene in a different way, Rene (physically) is not there anymore. So she has to redefine herself on many different levels. This is hard. Oh boy it's really hard. So we all have to accept that is going to take some experimentation, even some 'not-so-perfect' moves until she redefines who she is as a person, as a woman, as an artist. This might mean a French or an English album unlike the ones we are used to, extravagant wardrobe and over-the-top-Law-inspired looks that don't necessarily express who she really is, constant repetition of well-rehearsed 'safe' phrases in interviews etc etc.

 

So I guess what I am trying to say is that if we truly are fans, we are going to let her be human for a while. Let her make decisions that we consider to be mistakes, let her try looks that some of us thing are completely wrong, let her make awkward Facebook videos, let her try new things with her voice and so on. She has certainly earned the right to do so. I think that when she says "I don't need to prove myself anymore" I think that's part of what she means. "I am who I am and I have earned the right to do whatever I want. I have spent the last 35 years trying to please you (you= her fans and the media) and now I deserve to listen to MY needs and not anybody else's".

 

In my book, this translates to a maturity that many artists lack and I'm quite sure that we haven't yet seen the best of Celine. Rene was undoubtedly a huge influence and a deciding factor in many aspects of what we now call "Celine Dion" but now we will start seeing what she really is without anyone's influence. We need to admit that Rene was a very strong personality and while I am a BIG admirer of their story, maybe, just maybe, sometimes Celine suppressed what she was or what she wanted to express in order to please him.

 

Being the eternal optimist and hopeless romantic that I am, I really do believe that we have yet to see the real (and possibly best) Celine. And now, we are closer than ever. She is a truly remarkable person and artist and if anything (in my book) she has earned the right to experiment until she stands on her own two feet again, this time as Celine Dion and not as Celine Dion, protege/lover/wife of someone else.

Beautiful!
I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.

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