"Celine" The Revamped Show

[Nmj]

 

 

Couldn't disagree more. Great songs are great songs. And a fabulous interpreter like Celine can make them her own. Pretty much all my favourite of Celine's English songs are covers - Calling You, ABM, First Time Ever I Saw Your Face, All the Way, Nature Boy, Falling Into You, Somewhere Over the Rainbow, At Seventeen, Here There and Everywhere, etc. etc.

 

Hits =/= great songs. Often far from it.

 

But guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

Listen when I say covers, I mean random ones. Those ones you listed mos were on Celine's albums.

[scielle]

Listen when I say covers, I mean random ones. Those ones you listed mos were on Celine's albums.

 

What's the difference?

You only want her to perform stuff she's recorded? Why? I just don't get that whatsoever...

I mean, shouldn't we want as broad a repertoire as possible? Recorded or not?

If she's recorded it you can always listen to it ad infinitum. I'd much rather have live performances consisting of as much previously unrecorded stuff as possible. The more rare gems, the better, as far as I'm concerned.

[Nmj]

 

 

What's the difference?

You only want her to perform stuff she's recorded? Why? I just don't get that whatsoever...

I mean, shouldn't we want as broad a repertoire as possible? Recorded or not?

If she's recorded it you can always listen to it ad infinitum. I'd much rather have live performances consisting of as much previously unrecorded stuff as possible. The more rare gems, the better, as far as I'm concerned.

 

I'm gonna have to disagree. When people go to a Celine Dion concert they want to her to sing the songs they familiarize her with.

"the power of love", "all by myself" yes... " purple rain" and "Mr.Paganini" NO.

[LukeD]

I prefer her discography to everyone else's discography. So she better stick with her own material for me. It's true some of her covers are great, but many are Karaoke-ish.

[Nmj]

I prefer her discography to everyone else's discography. So she better stick with her own material for me. It's true some of her covers are great, but many are Karaoke-ish.

 

Love you

[Tyler1991]

Look at the setlist from her older tours in the 90s. One cover usually and the rest is her own material. I wish it was still the same.

 

Point is she's the best selling female artist of all time. Anyone who is able to say that should be singing their own songs. It's kinda embarrassing to over do it with covers. It makes sense when starting out a career, but at this point it's silly. If she's that bored with her own songs she's been singing for years, there's plenty of songs she could sing that she never has, and guess what - it would consist of her own material and that to me is what I would consider rare.

[québecflower]

i think that she is doing a show to help people have a good time. People won't want to buy tickets to see a sad show. They want to be entertained. That's the way of the world.and It will be hard for her.

[celine4evauk]

Look at the setlist from her older tours in the 90s. One cover usually and the rest is her own material. I wish it was still the same.

 

Point is she's the best selling female artist of all time. Anyone who is able to say that should be singing their own songs. It's kinda embarrassing to over do it with covers. It makes sense when starting out a career, but at this point it's silly. If she's that bored with her own songs she's been singing for years, there's plenty of songs she could sing that she never has, and guess what - it would consist of her own material and that to me is what I would consider rare.

 

That's because she had an album (or 2) to promote and that's how people do it, via tour. TC tour she did many songs from the album; I was sad that a few got dropped before she got here. I miss those days where half the show were latest songs. But sadly lv is different. It doesn't have to be, it just is. 😕

I'm just not sure of what songs Celine's gonna be able to handle singing every night. Uptempo, maybe not or maybe it'll get her mind off things. Songs that mean so much to her and René, maye it'll be too hard or could make her feel closer to him.

Who knows. Like I said before, I don't think even Celine knows until she tries.

[justinecoria]

I'm gonna have to disagree. When people go to a Celine Dion concert they want to her to sing the songs they familiarize her with.

"the power of love", "all by myself" yes... " purple rain" and "Mr.Paganini" NO.

I don't totally agree. Most of the people who go to LV are not Celine fans. They just go there because they're in LV.

Of course, they'd prefer TPOL instead of Mr. Paganini. But they'd still enjoy Purple Rain, Man In The Mirror, Rolling In The Deep, more that some unknown songs from her discography.

[anewdayhascome]

What's the problem with covers?! I'd much rather hear a great cover than a dreary original!

There are so many fabulous songs she could be singing outside of her own recorded repertoire - I so wish she did more of that.

 

 

And here we go AGAIN. Come on, are you serious? Haven't you got ENOUGH covers through the last couple of years. There are so many FABULOUS songs of her that she could revisit outside her regular ORIGINAL repertoire (look how Immortality made its comeback) but come on, she has been singing for ages now everything outside her own recorded repertoire. I don't get why you say she "could" be singing, she literally DOES all the time, especially since the new show began in 2011.

 

I don't totally agree. Most of the people who go to LV are not Celine fans. They just go there because they're in LV.

Of course, they'd prefer TPOL instead of Mr. Paganini. But they'd still enjoy Purple Rain, Man In The Mirror, Rolling In The Deep, more that some unknown songs from her discography.

 

Who cares if fans attend the show or not. She should still stick to her own songs. Of course everybody will enjoy songs you mentioned because it's Celine Dion and because she sings everything well. But I disagree that they would enjoy them more than unknown songs of hers. Actually the show/the concert is the ONLY place she could make HER song known. And she just doesn't do this. They don't give a chance to her songs to flourish, to attract new audience to showcase her skills in her mindblowing material. I think that nobody will say her that, for instance, Breakaway is not huge. It is and she would blow everyone away with it whether the non fans know it or not. They did the same thing with 1f4t and D'elles albums - especially the latter was represented by ONE song only during the tour which was supposed to promote the album.... come on.

 

 

 

As far as this show is concerned, I agree with nmj and some others who said that Mr Pagannini should go, the song had its momentum in the first version of "Celine" and now it doesn't really fit the show, nor does Quand ca balance. A French-speaking artist, who is the world's best known French-speaking artist of these times, who has the best-selling French album and is known for her French repertoire outside Quebec and France shouldn't neglect her rich and diverse French material. They have SO many things to choose from.

 

The problem with "Celine" from the very beginning is that it includes too many covers and too many RANDOM covers. Covering Michael Jackson is also a different thing, Celine is his fan and it was him who incluenced her in her own career so still it made some sense but Purple rain? come on, it's so out of the place. TSMGO makes sense because of the circumstances and its meaning, so again there is a difference between choosing some covers. (Though I would prefer a non cover concert for ONCE! am I asking too much?)

 

Honestly, I don't see any big changes any time soon. I pray only for one thing now that they would cut ABM.

 

It's pointless to enumarate songs like Faith or I Know What Love Is because it will never happen. But, realistically, if I had to choose songs to "come back", I really think a French song of hers should be included (any of them really), I presume that All The Way might be back (but I'd rather have the solo version she performed last year, it was so refreshing!) and, finally, I think that it's possible that TCOML might be sung at some point (not necessarily now but since they included it in the Celebration of Life, they somehow made the first step).

Edited February 7, 2016 at 01:23 PM by anewdayhascome

[couldawouldashoulda]

I'm gonna have to disagree. When people go to a Celine Dion concert they want to her to sing the songs they familiarize her with.

"the power of love", "all by myself" yes... " purple rain" and "Mr.Paganini" NO.

 

Sorry, I have to correct you. SOME people want to hear her sing songs they are familiar with. Other people go to hear some of those songs, yes, but to hear, as someone said above, something that's not on her albums because that's special and different. Not everyone wants the same things out of life. Not everyone wants the same things out of a concert. This is why no artist should ever listen to "fans" because it is impossible to please them all - they all want something different. Imagine if Celine's team came to this board - LOL "Don't do any covers - no one likes them!" "Wait - keep them in - people want to hear them." "We should cut All By Myself" "No, this person would be upset. We should cut River Deep, Mountain High" "No, we can't do that - these people love uptempo songs. In fact, we should add more." "No, look at this person - they only like ballads. We should put in more of those from her albums" "No, there should be more cover songs." "No, we can't do that"

 

meanwhile, there is an audience sitting in the coliseum waiting for a show to start........

[DionFanAlways]

I agree so much and they can get rid of Mr. Paganini as well as far as I'm concerned. I don't care for that jazz section rather have a French medley of songs in that spot.

Well I agree with half of what you're saying but I love Mr. Paganini! I would love, love, love a French medley!! :wub: I think i"ll tweet that to them!

French medley - absolutely! But never at the expense of Mr. Paganini. I'd be heartbroken if they cut that one ;-(

 

Incredible should go. That song has always been a complete bore to me. I just don't get it.

 

I would so love to hear Ne me quite pas again, but clearly that's not gonna happen for a very, very long time, if ever.

Yes, keep Mr Paganini and cut Incredible, such a boring song! I'm sorry but I was so tired of NMQP. Edited February 7, 2016 at 02:16 PM by DionFanAlways

[Manila]

Makes me wonder why there is only 1 french song is on the show?

For the god sake everybody knows that she is French Canadian.

Why there is not one part with 2-3 french songs like: PQTME for sure, SISDA or L'amour Existe Encore, and some uptempo song J'irai ou tu iras or Destin?

 

At least a a French medley would be great

Edited February 7, 2016 at 02:12 PM by Manila

[Del]

I don't know it it'll be harder for her to sing love songs and songs about loss OR these energetic up-tempo songs like LCMM/RDMH. Maybe she's not in the mood for them.

I think it'll be hard for her to sing songs like The first time, Somewhere over the Rainbow, Because You Loved me etc than the LCMM/RDMH medley. I can even see All The Way replaced for a while since it was such a special song for them.

[CelineDionFreak]

I think it'll be hard for her to sing songs like The first time, Somewhere over the Rainbow, Because You Loved me etc than the LCMM/RDMH medley. I can even see All The Way replaced for a while since it was such a special song for them.

All the way has been cut for sometime because the holograms are all gone. I wonder if it'll come back...?

 

It would be interesting if she did a solo version of All the Way!

Edited February 7, 2016 at 03:13 PM by CelineDionFreak

[flutefreak]

How about immortality? I cried when I saw her in Nov. I still can't listen to it yet.

[QueenCeline87]

Tbh right now I'm happy with Celine singing what she is comfortable with

It's going to be hard and if her singing covers for a while makes it easier I'm all for it

If she wants to add more of her own stuff like TCOML even better.

I don't see too many changes happening so soon after everything

Having to have to reherse it all etc I just think would be a lot to deal with so soon.

She knows this show like the back of her hand!

It's only a few shows until she has a good break in March /April

So maybe changes will happen after that.

I really hope they stream the 23rd

I know she will be on all our minds that night.

There will be so much love and energy sent her way

[Del]

 

All the way has been cut for sometime because the holograms are all gone. I wonder if it'll come back...?

 

It would be interesting if she did a solo version of All the Way!

I clearly can't keep up with the songs they're removed since the show started back up.

[SuperLove4Celine]

This notion Celine needs to perform covers because the general public won't recognize her own songs is and has always been a mindf**k for me. Other artists on The Strip who aren't as "big" as Celine don't or didn't have any (or barely any) covers in their highly successful, critically acclaimed shows. Britney Spears and Shania Twain come to mind. Jennifer Lopez's new show only has the Celia Cruz tribute. Celine COULD have more of her own songs in full in the show without resorting to covers and the show would run its normal time:

• "To Love You More"
  
• "A New Day Has Come" (either version) - IN FULL
  
• "I'm Alive" - IN FULL
  
• "That's The Way It Is" - IN FULL
  
• "Where Does My Heart Beat Now" - IN FULL
  
• "Nothing Broken But My Heart" (#1 hit on A/C and is still played today)
  
• "Loved Me Back To Life"
  
• "I'm Your Angel" (either solo, duet with Barnev or hologram/screen duet with R. Kelly)
  
• "The Prayer"/"A Mother's Prayer" (either solo or hologram/screen duet with Andrea Bocelli)
  
• "Think Twice"
  
• "Tell Him" (duet with Elise or hologram/screen duet with Barbra Streisand)
  
• "Pour que tu m'aimes encore"
  
• "The Power Of The Dream"
  
• "Misled" (her first #1 hit on the Dance charts)
  
• "Have You Ever Been In Love"
  
• "Don't Save It All For Christmas Day"
  

 

To the best of my knowledge these are all originals. Am I suggesting every single song in that list needs to be in "Celine"? No. However, it shows there are far more "regular" Celine songs the casual public would be able to connect with than random covers. I didn't even list "album cuts" or b-sides which the fans have been clamoring to hear live (i.e. "Then You Look At Me").

[Timster]

This notion Celine needs to perform covers because the general public won't recognize her own songs is and has always been a mindf**k for me. Other artists on The Strip who aren't as "big" as Celine don't or didn't have any (or barely any) covers in their highly successful, critically acclaimed shows. Britney Spears and Shania Twain come to mind. Jennifer Lopez's new show only has the Celia Cruz tribute. Celine COULD have more of her own songs in full in the show without resorting to covers and the show would run its normal time:

• "To Love You More"
  
• "A New Day Has Come" (either version) - IN FULL
  
• "I'm Alive" - IN FULL
  
• "That's The Way It Is" - IN FULL
  
• "Where Does My Heart Beat Now" - IN FULL
  
• "Nothing Broken But My Heart" (#1 hit on A/C and is still played today)
  
• "Loved Me Back To Life"
  
• "I'm Your Angel" (either solo, duet with Barnev or hologram/screen duet with R. Kelly)
  
• "The Prayer"/"A Mother's Prayer" (either solo or hologram/screen duet with Andrea Bocelli)
  
• "Think Twice"
  
• "Tell Him" (duet with Elise or hologram/screen duet with Barbra Streisand)
  
• "Pour que tu m'aimes encore"
  
• "The Power Of The Dream"
  
• "Misled" (her first #1 hit on the Dance charts)
  
• "Have You Ever Been In Love"
  
• "Don't Save It All For Christmas Day"
  

To the best of my knowledge these are all originals. Am I suggesting every single song in that list needs to be in "Celine"? No. However, it shows there are far more "regular" Celine songs the casual public would be able to connect with than random covers. I didn't even list "album cuts" or b-sides which the fans have been clamoring to hear live (i.e. "Then You Look At Me").

 

Amen!

 

Shania's show contained 18 original songs, 14 of which were performed in full (some even had extended instrumental parts). The other 4 were only shortened because they were in an acoustic medley.

 

Celine's team could learn a lot from this.

[québecflower]

i think that now that he is dead, René can see all these mistakes he made . Celine should hire a medium to communicate with him to have new instructions.

[Timster]

i think that now that he is dead, René can see all these mistakes he made . Celine should hire a medium to communicate with him to have new instructions.

 

[Tyler1991]

This notion Celine needs to perform covers because the general public won't recognize her own songs is and has always been a mindf**k for me. Other artists on The Strip who aren't as "big" as Celine don't or didn't have any (or barely any) covers in their highly successful, critically acclaimed shows. Britney Spears and Shania Twain come to mind. Jennifer Lopez's new show only has the Celia Cruz tribute. Celine COULD have more of her own songs in full in the show without resorting to covers and the show would run its normal time:

• "To Love You More"
  
• "A New Day Has Come" (either version) - IN FULL
  
• "I'm Alive" - IN FULL
  
• "That's The Way It Is" - IN FULL
  
• "Where Does My Heart Beat Now" - IN FULL
  
• "Nothing Broken But My Heart" (#1 hit on A/C and is still played today)
  
• "Loved Me Back To Life"
  
• "I'm Your Angel" (either solo, duet with Barnev or hologram/screen duet with R. Kelly)
  
• "The Prayer"/"A Mother's Prayer" (either solo or hologram/screen duet with Andrea Bocelli)
  
• "Think Twice"
  
• "Tell Him" (duet with Elise or hologram/screen duet with Barbra Streisand)
  
• "Pour que tu m'aimes encore"
  
• "The Power Of The Dream"
  
• "Misled" (her first #1 hit on the Dance charts)
  
• "Have You Ever Been In Love"
  
• "Don't Save It All For Christmas Day"
  

 

To the best of my knowledge these are all originals. Am I suggesting every single song in that list needs to be in "Celine"? No. However, it shows there are far more "regular" Celine songs the casual public would be able to connect with than random covers. I didn't even list "album cuts" or b-sides which the fans have been clamoring to hear live (i.e. "Then You Look At Me").

 

The best post I've read all day. Started to type out a similar list but ran out of time or got distracted. No need to say anything further than what you did.

[LukeD]

This notion Celine needs to perform covers because the general public won't recognize her own songs is and has always been a mindf**k for me. Other artists on The Strip who aren't as "big" as Celine don't or didn't have any (or barely any) covers in their highly successful, critically acclaimed shows. Britney Spears and Shania Twain come to mind. Jennifer Lopez's new show only has the Celia Cruz tribute. Celine COULD have more of her own songs in full in the show without resorting to covers and the show would run its normal time:

• "To Love You More"
  
• "A New Day Has Come" (either version) - IN FULL
  
• "I'm Alive" - IN FULL
  
• "That's The Way It Is" - IN FULL
  
• "Where Does My Heart Beat Now" - IN FULL
  
• "Nothing Broken But My Heart" (#1 hit on A/C and is still played today)
  
• "Loved Me Back To Life"
  
• "I'm Your Angel" (either solo, duet with Barnev or hologram/screen duet with R. Kelly)
  
• "The Prayer"/"A Mother's Prayer" (either solo or hologram/screen duet with Andrea Bocelli)
  
• "Think Twice"
  
• "Tell Him" (duet with Elise or hologram/screen duet with Barbra Streisand)
  
• "Pour que tu m'aimes encore"
  
• "The Power Of The Dream"
  
• "Misled" (her first #1 hit on the Dance charts)
  
• "Have You Ever Been In Love"
  
• "Don't Save It All For Christmas Day"
  

To the best of my knowledge these are all originals. Am I suggesting every single song in that list needs to be in "Celine"? No. However, it shows there are far more "regular" Celine songs the casual public would be able to connect with than random covers. I didn't even list "album cuts" or b-sides which the fans have been clamoring to hear live (i.e. "Then You Look At Me").

^ This. I was about to make a similar list to prove the same point.

 

We could also add covers included in her albums: I Drove All Night, It's All Coming Back To Me Now, The Power Of Love, All By Myself, If You Asked Me To (#4 on Billboard Hot 100) and even the well-known ballads When I Fall In Love, The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face and Nature Boy.

 

Your list could include originals like: Because You Loved Me, Beauty And The Beast, Love Can Move Mountains, Immortality.

 

There you have it... You suggested 16 great songs and now I posted another 12! A great list of 28 songs to pick from. No casual fan would be disappointed.

Edited February 7, 2016 at 08:25 PM by LukeD

[LukeD]

The best post I've read all day. Started to type out a similar list but ran out of time or got distracted. No need to say anything further than what you did.

He saved time for me too. I was about to do the exact same thing!

[browseceline]

Again i think we can wish and write down wishinglists but in the end there will not be so much changes.

 

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[GoldenLeaf]

"Incredible" and "Beauty and the Beast" should stay in the show but they should be performed either solo or as holodram/screen duets because Barnev Valsaint is ruining both songs IMO.

 

 

[browseceline]

"Incredible" and "Beauty and the Beast" should stay in the show but they should be performed either solo or as holodram/screen duets because Barnev Valsaint is ruining both songs IMO.

That is what we think but don't be surprised that Barnev ain't going nowhere..

 

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[Nmj]

 

 

Sorry, I have to correct you. SOME people want to hear her sing songs they are familiar with. Other people go to hear some of those songs, yes, but to hear, as someone said above, something that's not on her albums because that's special and different. Not everyone wants the same things out of life. Not everyone wants the same things out of a concert. This is why no artist should ever listen to "fans" because it is impossible to please them all - they all want something different. Imagine if Celine's team came to this board - LOL "Don't do any covers - no one likes them!" "Wait - keep them in - people want to hear them." "We should cut All By Myself" "No, this person would be upset. We should cut River Deep, Mountain High" "No, we can't do that - these people love uptempo songs. In fact, we should add more." "No, look at this person - they only like ballads. We should put in more of those from her albums" "No, there should be more cover songs." "No, we can't do that"

 

meanwhile, there is an audience sitting in the coliseum waiting for a show to start........

 

we will never agree on this because I think maybe 2 covers maximum should be in her show and they should be shortened versions in a medley. Ok let's say they insist on the Prince Medley, that's cool keep it but get they can get rid of "Mr Paganini, If I can dream, The show must go on, River Deep, the Jazz section. That's 7 songs of her material they could add. That's all random nonsense that doesn't need to be there.

 

I'm sorry but you will never convince me that people would rather hear a full version of "The show must go on" over a full version of " That's The Way It Is"' or " A New Day Has Come".

Edited February 7, 2016 at 11:28 PM by Nmj

[LukeD]

maybe 2 covers maximum should be in her show and they should be shortened versions in a medley.

You are strict, aren't you? I agree with you and I think that adding 1 or 2 covers in each show/tour would make them come off as more special.