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Who ever gave credit to Celine for inventing the waterfall? Oh wait, NOBODY did.

When one says Adele is copying Celine, that's definitely what it implies. Otherwise there’s no point saying it.

 

It is nice that you explain to us what needs no explanation (...that the waterfall symolizes the rain) but again who cares why Adele (or her team) chose to use the waterfall? It is still the trademark of Celine's current show and it is a cheap move to copy it this way.

If that's a copy, then so many things are lol. Water has been used since forever in shows. Adele's waterfall has nothing special. A copy would have been if the waterfall was as elaborated as Celine's, and even then it would be ok to do it (not a cheap move). It's not even like people are considering Adele's waterfall as the highlight of the show. And people comparing it to Celine's waterfall are mostly Celine fans...

 

And this is coming from the person who has called out Celine on mimicing the sound of Adele in certain songs of LMBTL. So I am objective and not a hater.

You're confusing me with someone else, sorry. I never ever said Celine mimicked Adele. They have completely different types of voice for me.

 

And no you're not objective at all when it comes to Adele. Proof is:

 

This is because she is an average singer hailed as a great vocalist and because I find her songs depressive and formulaic.

Tons and tons of music experts, musicians, artists (including Celine), and even doctors consider Adele as the amazing voice/vocalist of the new generation. You should check the ‘Famous People who love Adele’ on Youtube. I have never ever seen that for any artist ever. But you LukeD consider she’s average. That’s very objective of you.

 

Who told you this is a thread about Celine videos? I might as well post a compilation of FRIENDS clips here and nobody will care.

You probably have not been following this thread, but it’s always been this way. This is thread in Celine’s forum, and it’s Youtube videos about Celine. I actually don’t care as I’m not a moderator, but I find it amusing to have two videos about Adele in a row here, knowing how you and some others here really dislike Adele.

 

I don't judge people in regards to how they treat Celine. That would be pathetic and show lack of judgement. I have my own criterion. It is true Adele has done nothing against Celine but I am still not fond of her.

Some people here have been constantly blatantly saying how it is of Adele’s duty to praise Celine, especially since Celine has been fanboying about her.

 

Anyways, we got it that people here really dislike Adele, when she actually has so much in common with Celine. I am not gonna discuss about the why of it, but why bring insignificant stuff here about Adele if it is just to criticize her again and again? Why not just leaving her alone, as nice people (worthy of Celine) would do?

​Being a Celine fan doesn't mean you have to be a Adele hater. In a thread where we're supposed to praise Celine's voice, I find it really annoying to see this kind of behavior, as a Celine and Adele fan.

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When one says Adele is copying Celine, that's definitely what it implies. Otherwise there’s no point saying it.

 

 

If that's a copy, then so many things are lol. Water has been used since forever in shows. Adele's waterfall has nothing special. A copy would have been if the waterfall was as elaborated as Celine's, and even then it would be ok to do it (not a cheap move). It's not even like people are considering Adele's waterfall as the highlight of the show. And people comparing it to Celine's waterfall are mostly Celine fans...

 

 

You're confusing me with someone else, sorry. I never ever said Celine mimicked Adele. They have completely different types of voice for me.

 

And no you're not objective at all when it comes to Adele. Proof is:

 

 

Tons and tons of music experts, musicians, artists (including Celine), and even doctors consider Adele as the amazing voice/vocalist of the new generation. You should check the ‘Famous People who love Adele’ on Youtube. I have never ever seen that for any artist ever. But you LukeD consider she’s average. That’s very objective of you.

 

 

You probably have not been following this thread, but it’s always been this way. This is thread in Celine’s forum, and it’s Youtube videos about Celine. I actually don’t care as I’m not a moderator, but I find it amusing to have two videos about Adele in a row here, knowing how you and some others here really dislike Adele.

 

 

Some people here have been constantly blatantly saying how it is of Adele’s duty to praise Celine, especially since Celine has been fanboying about her.

 

Anyways, we got it that people here really dislike Adele, when she actually has so much in common with Celine. I am not gonna discuss about the why of it, but why bring insignificant stuff here about Adele if it is just to criticize her again and again? Why not just leaving her alone, as nice people (worthy of Celine) would do?

​Being a Celine fan doesn't mean you have to be a Adele hater. In a thread where we're supposed to praise Celine's voice, I find it really annoying to see this kind of behavior, as a Celine and Adele fan.

it was just a remark about a waterfall.....supposed to be funny.
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When one says Adele is copying Celine, that's definitely what it implies. Otherwise there’s no point saying it.

 

 

If that's a copy, then so many things are lol. Water has been used since forever in shows. Adele's waterfall has nothing special. A copy would have been if the waterfall was as elaborated as Celine's, and even then it would be ok to do it (not a cheap move). It's not even like people are considering Adele's waterfall as the highlight of the show. And people comparing it to Celine's waterfall are mostly Celine fans...

 

 

You're confusing me with someone else, sorry. I never ever said Celine mimicked Adele. They have completely different types of voice for me.

 

And no you're not objective at all when it comes to Adele. Proof is:

 

 

Tons and tons of music experts, musicians, artists (including Celine), and even doctors consider Adele as the amazing voice/vocalist of the new generation. You should check the ‘Famous People who love Adele’ on Youtube. I have never ever seen that for any artist ever. But you LukeD consider she’s average. That’s very objective of you.

 

 

You probably have not been following this thread, but it’s always been this way. This is thread in Celine’s forum, and it’s Youtube videos about Celine. I actually don’t care as I’m not a moderator, but I find it amusing to have two videos about Adele in a row here, knowing how you and some others here really dislike Adele.

 

 

Some people here have been constantly blatantly saying how it is of Adele’s duty to praise Celine, especially since Celine has been fanboying about her.

 

Anyways, we got it that people here really dislike Adele, when she actually has so much in common with Celine. I am not gonna discuss about the why of it, but why bring insignificant stuff here about Adele if it is just to criticize her again and again? Why not just leaving her alone, as nice people (worthy of Celine) would do?

​Being a Celine fan doesn't mean you have to be a Adele hater. In a thread where we're supposed to praise Celine's voice, I find it really annoying to see this kind of behavior, as a Celine and Adele fan.

I ellaborated before and explained that I do NOT judge people in regards to my feelings about Celine so don't come back saying ''Being a Celine fan doesn't mean you have to be a Adele hater''. I cleared this up already and tried to be as specific as possible.

 

Saying Adele copied Celine does not mean Celine created the waterfall. As I said it is the trademark of her show. To put it in other words, someone out of Celine's team had the idea to incorporate a waterfall to the show and someone out of Adele's team used the same idea. Adele agreed to this, so she can be judged. This is what happens with artists. When Ariana Grande wears same outfits as Mariah Carey people rightfully call her out on it and not her stylist. We're talking about adults making choices. I know very well that pop singers tend to copy trends and even other singers but this does not give anyone immunity to criticism. Celine has been unoriginal at times, this doesn't mean I won't be annoyed when someone obviously copies Celine.

 

Stop deluding yourself with articles praising the voice of Adele. These are all for publicity. Adele is a basic singer. Fact (and I mean FACT) is that she has a bit more than 1 good octave in her voice, she can't really go low, she can't belt high, she doesn't use head voice but falsetto, she is lowering songs as easy as RITD to get away with them, she hasn't shown any diversity. Also the people you mentioned praised her VOICE not her TECHNIQUE. She does have a pretty voice but the voice does not make the singer. If you want to talk about SINGING and being a VOCALIST talk to me about the technique and musicianship she has showcased, don't even come back telling me that Adele emotes and connects with people because these are irrelevant to judging the singing skills of someone.

 

The video I posted featuring Adele was more about Celine since I made the connection with her. And many people agreed. So it is not irrelevant to the forum. Nobody would be talking more than a couple posts about it or Adele if it wasn't for you.

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You should check the ‘Famous People who love Adele’ on Youtube. I have never ever seen that for any artist ever.

:sofunny: There were just about 20 videos about celebrities praising Whitney Houston and another 20 about Mariah Carey.

 

To have people praising a singer proves the impact of the singer and the popularity too. It has nothing to do with singing skills. (range, power, agility, breath control, placement, musicianship, diversity and so on).

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it was just a remark about a waterfall.....supposed to be funny.

I'm shocked there was a defensive reply because the similarity is so damn OBVIOUS. :D Leaves no room for excuses. And yes it was not supposed to create drama. Edited by LukeD
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I ellaborated before and explained that I do NOT judge people in regards to my feelings about Celine so don't come back saying ''Being a Celine fan doesn't mean you have to be a Adele hater''. I cleared this up already and tried to be as specific as possible.

 

Saying Adele copied Celine does not mean Celine created the waterfall. As I said it is the trademark of her show. To put it in other words, someone out of Celine's team had the idea to incorporate a waterfall to the show and someone out of Adele's team used the same idea. Adele agreed to this, so she can be judged. This is what happens with artists. When Ariana Grande wears same outfits as Mariah Carey people rightfully call her out on it and not her stylist. We're talking about adults making choices. I know very well that pop singers tend to copy trends and even other singers but this does not give anyone immunity to criticism. Celine has been unoriginal at times, this doesn't mean I won't be annoyed when someone obviously copies Celine.

 

I’m totally okay with what you’re saying. Where I do not agree is when you have these judgmental comments about how cheap a move this is or ‘how original! She’s not ignoring Celine after all’, just to diminish her again…

 

 

Stop deluding yourself with articles praising the voice of Adele. These are all for publicity. Adele is a basic singer. Fact (and I mean FACT) is that she has a bit more than 1 good octave in her voice, she can't really go low, she can't belt high, she doesn't use head voice but falsetto, she is lowering songs as easy as RITD to get away with them, she hasn't shown any diversity. Also the people you mentioned praised her VOICE not her TECHNIQUE. She does have a pretty voice but the voice does not make the singer. If you want to talk about SINGING and being a VOCALIST talk to me about the technique and musicianship she has showcased, don't even come back telling me that Adele emotes and connects with people because these are irrelevant to judging the singing skills of someone.

Adele is NOT a basic/average singer. No expert would ever say that. It’s not all about range.

Just check the videos when she’s singing with Alicia Keys (whom you’d probably agree is a vocalist) and she definitely holds her own.

 

And it’s funny that you’re talking about lowering the songs, as a Celine fan. Celine almost never sings the songs in the original key (which is fine). Adele sometimes does it too.

 

The video I posted featuring Adele was more about Celine since I made the connection with her. And many people agreed. So it is not irrelevant to the forum. Nobody would be talking more than a couple posts about it or Adele if it wasn't for you.

 

That parody of Adele was extremely funny. It made my day actually. Where was the connection with Celine though?

 

There were just about 20 videos about celebrities praising Whitney Houston and another 20 about Mariah Carey.

 

Do the math. Count how many praised Adele, and how many praised Whitney or Mariah Carey. (Almost) everyone loves/praises Adele. I have never ever seen that.

And I’m saying this as a fan of Whitney and Mariah too. Yes, I love Celine (the best voice ever to me), and Mariah, Adele and Whitney. It happens.

 

 

To have people praising a singer proves the impact of the singer and the popularity too. It has nothing to do with singing skills. (range, power, agility, breath control, placement, musicianship, diversity and so on).

They praise her voice first. There’s no denying that. People rarely praise breath control by the way.

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who will let go of the cookie first?
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Great video on fb with celine talking to Barnev about taking selfies 😂
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Great video on fb with celine talking to Barnev about taking selfies

where do you see it?
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who will let go of the cookie first?

I will/I am.

I just had to say that I don't understand why it's become standard here to diss Adele. It used to be Mariah at some point. I'm just not a fan of feeling being part of a community by dissing someone. We're here because we love Celine. Adele did nothing against Celine, there's no reason for this anti-Adele consensus here. It makes us sound jealous.

 

Coming back to the topic, anyone knows where I can find the audio of 'Wind beneath my wings'?

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I’m totally okay with what you’re saying. Where I do not agree is when you have these judgmental comments about how cheap a move this is or ‘how original! She’s not ignoring Celine after all’, just to diminish her again…

 

Adele is NOT a basic/average singer. No expert would ever say that. It’s not all about range.

Just check the videos when she’s singing with Alicia Keys (whom you’d probably agree is a vocalist) and she definitely holds her own.

 

And it’s funny that you’re talking about lowering the songs, as a Celine fan. Celine almost never sings the songs in the original key (which is fine). Adele sometimes does it too.

 

That parody of Adele was extremely funny. It made my day actually. Where was the connection with Celine though?

 

Do the math. Count how many praised Adele, and how many praised Whitney or Mariah Carey. (Almost) everyone loves/praises Adele. I have never ever seen that.

And I’m saying this as a fan of Whitney and Mariah too. Yes, I love Celine (the best voice ever to me), and Mariah, Adele and Whitney. It happens.

 

They praise her voice first. There’s no denying that. People rarely praise breath control by the way.

When you reply to me give me facts. Which expert praised her singing technique? I never said singing ability is about range so please do NOT put words in my mount. I mentioned breath control, power, agility and diversity among other things that prove vocal ability. Alicia Keys is a below average singer, she is straining all the time to reach basic notes. Adele is better than her.

 

I mentioned that Adele is lowering EASY songs like RITD. Celine is lowering certain parts of songs but in the same concerts she belts MUCH higher. For example she lowers the notes of MHWGO but she is still reaching higher notes during LCMM and RDMH. Adele not so much. Huge difference.

 

The person who posted the waterfall link here (I posted it in another thread) did so because of the blatant resemblence to the trademark of Celine's show.

 

I do the math. There were more than 20 videos praising each singer which is more than what Adele has. Also these vocalists could sing circles around Adele.

 

To praise the voice means s***. It does not prove singing ability. It proves popularity and the fact that she does possess a pretty voice.

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who will let go of the cookie first?

All I can say is that I love cookies. :)
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I will/I am.

I just had to say that I don't understand why it's become standard here to diss Adele. It used to be Mariah at some point. I'm just not a fan of feeling being part of a community by dissing someone. We're here because we love Celine. Adele did nothing against Celine, there's no reason for this anti-Adele consensus here. It makes us sound jealous.

 

Coming back to the topic, anyone knows where I can find the audio of 'Wind beneath my wings'?

 

it was a joke, Adele has a forum, Like i said before, i don't dislike Adele, i love some songs, but Adele's fan want her to be seen as an extraordinary singer, i just don't think this is true. And every occasion they will insist on it. Just to see the comments on youtube after Celine sang Hello, my god talk about disrespect. There was a girl who sang I surrender on american idol the other week, i didn't see any bad comments from Celine's fan on the video.

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it was a joke, Adele has a forum, Like i said before, i don't dislike Adele, i love some songs, but Adele's fan want her to be seen as an extraordinary singer, i just don't think this is true. And every occasion they will insist on it. Just to see the comments on youtube after Celine sang Hello, my god talk about disrespect. There was a girl who sang I surrender on american idol the other week, i didn't see any bad comments from Celine's fan on the video.

I love how we are explaining the most basic things to him. Sorry for not living inside Celine's #ss to dislike whoever dislikes her and like whoever likes her.
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where do you see it?

 

On fb. The Dion's Family (fb name) posted them.

There's a short clip on instagram of Celine singing happy birthday to someone.

Sorry my phone very rarely let's me copy and paste links. Otherwise I'd have put them on here lol

 

It was my polite way of trying to get this topic back on the right path 😂

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On fb. The Dion's Family (fb name) posted them.

There's a short clip on instagram of Celine singing happy birthday to someone.

Sorry my phone very rarely let's me copy and paste links. Otherwise I'd have put them on here lol

 

It was my polite way of trying to get this topic back on the right path 😂

 

:clap: :clap: :clap:

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Céline Dion - Ne Partez Pas Sans Moi @ Théâtre de Beausobre in Morges, Switzerland, 1988-02-06 (Swiss Preselection for the Eurovision Song Contest)

I uploaded the better quality.

 

Is this from a DVD? Or is it the HQ version available on the rts.ch website?

 

http://www.rts.ch/ar...eline-dion.html

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Xavier Dolan HAS to do an MV for Celine. They're both Quebecois, and he is a big fan, who has even featured her music in his films.

Why? Adele's video of ''Hello'' is so boring. If he works with Celine someday I hope he'll do a better job than what he did with ''Hello''.

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Just to see the comments on youtube after Celine sang Hello, my god talk about disrespect.

 

:sick: One of the worst recent moments of her career. And her rendition seemed like such an afterthought. I doubt it was her choice, Aldo probably told her to do it. I never even looked at the comments because the very idea of having to educate all those idiots makes me cringe. Adele's voice is basic as hell compared to someone like Celine. So many of her teenage fans have never even heard Celine in her prime and base their opinion of Celine off of that performance or recent performances in general.

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Adele fans are so hypocrites. When Celine was nailing ''Rolling In the Deep'' a few years ago, they were saying that she was too technical and soulless and when she covered ''Hello'' they were saying that she was not skilled enough vocally to touch Adele's songs.
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Why? Adele's video of ''Hello'' is so boring. If he works with Celine someday I hope he'll do a better job than what he did with ''Hello''.

that's because the basic idea came from Adele, the color sepia and everything...the movies he made are so good, Mommy is my favorite movie wordlwide of the last two years (the one i have seen) :giggle: He puts so much emotions in his work.
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When you reply to me give me facts. Which expert praised her singing technique? I never said singing ability is about range so please do NOT put words in my mount. I mentioned breath control, power, agility and diversity among other things that prove vocal ability. Alicia Keys is a below average singer, she is straining all the time to reach basic notes. Adele is better than her.

 

I mentioned that Adele is lowering EASY songs like RITD. Celine is lowering certain parts of songs but in the same concerts she belts MUCH higher. For example she lowers the notes of MHWGO but she is still reaching higher notes during LCMM and RDMH. Adele not so much. Huge difference.

 

The person who posted the waterfall link here (I posted it in another thread) did so because of the blatant resemblence to the trademark of Celine's show.

 

I do the math. There were more than 20 videos praising each singer which is more than what Adele has. Also these vocalists could sing circles around Adele.

 

To praise the voice means s***. It does not prove singing ability. It proves popularity and the fact that she does possess a pretty voice.

Yeah Adele is an average singer, Alicia Keys is a below average singer. And I'm the one who has to be explained the most basic things lol.

The person who posted the waterfall link here had all the right to do so as you said. Your comments were out of place though. And I was talking about the Adele parody you posted. Don't put words in my mount haha.

 

Do the math correctly. 20 videos showing the same people/videos praising them is not the same as 4 different videos by the same user showing tons of singers picking Adele out of nowhere. Though Mariah Carey was a consensus too in the US.

 

And I'm sorry, if almost every artist and expert say that her voice is amazing, you just cannot come and say she's an average singer. That's pure delusion.

 

To everyone else, don't dismiss general opinion by saying those are Adele's hypocrite fans. Celine's rendition of Hello did not meet the standard that Celine has used us to. This probably explains the hate towards Adele here, but Adele has nothing to do with that. Grow up.

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Just had some Girl Scout cookies. I love this time of year - Girl Scout cookie time! :)

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If you're a true Celine fan, you would report that Hello performance a million times until all evidence is removed from the internet. Like the comments above illustrate, it's simply a magnet for haters and misinformed disrespect.

Although it's actually a fan who uploaded it. :mellow:

 

Personally, I pretend it never happened.

 

:giggle:

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Why? Adele's video of ''Hello'' is so boring. If he works with Celine someday I hope he'll do a better job than what he did with ''Hello''.

 

I agree the video for "Hello" isn't anything Earth shattering or overly unique. However, I do love its use of sepia tones and basic storyline. Not every music video has to be bombastic a la "It's All Coming Back To Me Now."

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Yeah Adele is an average singer, Alicia Keys is a below average singer. And I'm the one who has to be explained the most basic things lol.

The person who posted the waterfall link here had all the right to do so as you said. Your comments were out of place though. And I was talking about the Adele parody you posted. Don't put words in my mount haha.

 

Do the math correctly. 20 videos showing the same people/videos praising them is not the same as 4 different videos by the same user showing tons of singers picking Adele out of nowhere. Though Mariah Carey was a consensus too in the US.

 

And I'm sorry, if almost every artist and expert say that her voice is amazing, you just cannot come and say she's an average singer. That's pure delusion.

 

To everyone else, don't dismiss general opinion by saying those are Adele's hypocrite fans. Celine's rendition of Hello did not meet the standard that Celine has used us to. This probably explains the hate towards Adele here, but Adele has nothing to do with that. Grow up.

Adele is basic. Alicia Keys is below average. You are still dodging my question and you fail to provide any facts. And you still think that praising her VOICE has anything to do with her SINGING. You're deluded and you have comprehension issues too since I have tried to explain over and over in my previous posts that a pretty voice does not make the singer. In fact it takes tons of other skills one has to possess. Who ever talked with facts and real arguments about these skills? Which expert praised her technique?

 

The videos I talked about showcased different people praising these singers. Not the same. I love how you say it was same people WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN WATCHED THE VIDEOS! Talk about being biased and irrational.

 

For the 4th of 5th time. Praising the VOICE does not mean Adele is a great SINGER. It means she is popular (Fact), that her voice is conventionally pretty (Fact) and that she has had a great impact in the music industry (Fact).

 

Everyone was having fun here before you resorted into supporting your fave. And I don't care if you think my comments were out of place. :flowers:

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