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Celine is Queen, and Adele is her peasant Lol.
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Celine is Queen, and Adele is her peasant Lol.

LOL. That was just mean! :D Edited by LukeD
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Oh dear. A girl goes away for several hours and comes back to this?!

 

Stimulating debate, no doubt, but could we perhaps move this to its own thread so those interested can debate it ad infinitum elsewhere? So every other topic on this forum doesn't become polluted and driven off course with several pages' worth of Celine-Adele arm wrestling?

Please?

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Oh dear. A girl goes away for several hours and comes back to this?!

 

Stimulating debate, no doubt, but could we perhaps move this to its own thread so those interested can debate it ad infinitum elsewhere? So every other topic on this forum doesn't become polluted and driven off course with several pages' worth of Celine-Adele arm wrestling?

Please?

Sorry but if you want to post YT videos, post YT videos. If you want to discuss them, discuss them. The fact that an argument goes on does not prevent you from doing whatever you want to do. Maybe you don't enjoy reading these comments but again you don't really have to read them. It only takes a few words out of each post to understand what it is about so you can move on very quickly.

 

I had moved on from the Adele thing (was it even a thing?) DAYS before I was called out on my posts. What am I supposed to do? Not reply? Not happening. :innocent:

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LOL. That was just mean! :D

 

I was just joking Lol.

 

Celine is like Whitney before crack, and Adele is like after the crack :D

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I agree the video for "Hello" isn't anything Earth shattering or overly unique. However, I do love its use of sepia tones and basic storyline. Not every music video has to be bombastic a la "It's All Coming Back To Me Now."

To have Celine make a video with a storyline and a theme other than ''I pose in front of a camera and other people act'' will be a progress.

 

The vast majority of her music videos the past 15 years or so are very bland with no real action on her part.

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I was just joking Lol.

 

Celine is like Whitney before crack, and Adele is like after the crack :D

:sofunny: Crack is whack! Edited by LukeD
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This was genious! And I am still laughing over the drawing!

 

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Adele is basic. Alicia Keys is below average. You are still dodging my question and you fail to provide any facts. And you still think that praising her VOICE has anything to do with her SINGING. You're deluded and you have comprehension issues too since I have tried to explain over and over in my previous posts that a pretty voice does not make the singer. In fact it takes tons of other skills one has to possess. Who ever talked with facts and real arguments about these skills? Which expert praised her technique?

 

The videos I talked about showcased different people praising these singers. Not the same. I love how you say it was same people WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN WATCHED THE VIDEOS! Talk about being biased and irrational.

 

For the 4th of 5th time. Praising the VOICE does not mean Adele is a great SINGER. It means she is popular (Fact), that her voice is conventionally pretty (Fact) and that she has had a great impact in the music industry (Fact).

 

Everyone was having fun here before you resorted into supporting your fave. And I don't care if you think my comments were out of place. :flowers:

Yeah great fun criticizing someone. So much fun yaaaay. I'm sorry, not my kind of fun !

 

Let me tell you something, voice is a great part of singing. If your only argument is when you take the voice out of the singing process, then there's nothing I can do for you. She doesn't have the range of the likes of Celine/Whitney, but she doesn't need to. The same way Celine's range is not the largest one, which is just fine. What I like most about Celine is her tone anyways.

 

And I know the videos. I enjoy this kind of videos. Count the people who are praising them, not the number of videos which show the same people. I feel like I'm repeating myself.

 

And just for you youtube.com/watch?v=_0yErcu9-MA. Adam Levine: 'She's so good'. Kelly Clarkson: 'I've always been fan of big female vocalists, like the big voices' etc etc. There's so much. I don't know how you can stick with your argument... You don't like her, ok. But don't come pretending you're an expert and say that she's an average singer. She's not!

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Let me tell you something, voice is a great part of singing. If your only argument is when you take the voice out of the singing process, then there's nothing I can do for you. She doesn't have the range of the likes of Celine/Whitney, but she doesn't need to. The same way Celine's range is not the largest one, which is just fine. What I like most about Celine is her tone anyways.

 

And just for you youtube.com/watch?v=_0yErcu9-MA. Adam Levine: 'She's so good'. Kelly Clarkson: 'I've always been fan of big female vocalists, like the big voices' etc etc. There's so much. I don't know how you can stick with your argument... You don't like her, ok. But don't come pretending you're an expert and say that she's an average singer. She's not!

Voice is NOT part of singing. A voice can be small, big, conventionally pretty, clear or raspy. It does not matter at all. What matters is HOW the singer USES the instrument. And Adele has done nothing impressive with hers. You have been walled and you are dodging a simple question: Which experts praised her SINGING and TECHNIQUE?

 

Fact is Adele is an average singer because she has a limited range, has shown no diversity, and her voice is not even agile or powerful. As a matter of fact she does not do anything special with it that would even be her trademark. Whitney had power in her voice, Mariah was agile and could whistle, Celine has been holding notes with great stability throughout her career and has excellent legato delivery, Aretha has sung most genres with authenticity and has the most ease hitting high belts, Barbra has had great head voice, Ella Fitzgerald had impeccable sense of rythm and her complex improvisations were always spot-on. Each singer that is hailed as a great vocalist was able to master at least an area of singing. Adele? What is she doing with her vocal cords exactly that make her great vocalist?

 

Let me break it for you once again. She is a basic singer which is why I am not fond of her. It is not the other way around.

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Yeah great fun criticizing someone. So much fun yaaaay. I'm sorry, not my kind of fun !

You took comments out of context because you are insecure and oversensitive.

 

What was said: 1.Adele copied Celine 2.Her waterfall is not as spectacular :giggle: 3.She does not play with her dress gracefully. :giggle:

 

What you got out of this: So much hate and resentement towards Adele. Great fun criticizing someone.

 

It is really laughable how you created all this drama out of nowhere. The discussion was silly for the most part and we had already moved on.

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He said he would let go yesterday and has quoted me twice since. :unsure:

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Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
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I made another new video, this time it's a look at the first era of the 'Celine' show (2011-2014).

 

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Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013)

Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016)

Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017)

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You took comments out of context because you are insecure and oversensitive.

 

What was said: 1.Adele copied Celine 2.Her waterfall is not as spectacular :giggle: 3.She does not play with her dress gracefully. :giggle:

 

What you got out of this: So much hate and resentement towards Adele. Great fun criticizing someone.

 

It is really laughable how you created all this drama out of nowhere. The discussion was silly for the most part and we had already moved on.

Now you're making a fool of yourself quoting me exactly and summarizing what you said forgetting the sarcasm and mean comments. Now she's a peasant. I know, I know, it's supposed to be humor. So funny.

You are also making a fool of yourself with all those Pseudo-technicalities. Next, when asked about their profession, singers will have to say: I'm a singer AND a voice Loool. Totally unrelated 😂😂. No one ever says Taylor SWift is a great singer though. I wonder why.

Thanks also for the lesson about the greatest vocalists ever but I'm not saying that Adele is in their league. However, not being a Celine, Mariah or Whitney does not equate being an average singer. Kelly Clarkson saying she's a big vocalist is not enough for you? Adele's technique is not perfect but if we forget that one live at the Grammys, she's rarely off key.

Anyone with common sense can see you're just a hater who does not think clearly when it's about Adele.

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Sorry but this thread (for me anyway) is 😴

Can we perhaps all move on from this debate/argument/whatever you want to call it, and get back to posting nice stuff?? Pretty please? 😕

Not saying everyone's not entitled to share opinions or defend their posts etc, because we all know we can, but surely enough is enough for this particular subject 😉

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That was me who said Adele was a peasant and Cèline the Queen not Luke. I was joking tho, it's clear tho Cèline can sing circles around Adele, and that's not because I'm a huge Cèline fan and this is the Cèline Dion forum. It's just the truth, ANYONE who knows anything About music should agree that Celine's instrument is FAR superior to Adele. Even Ariana Garande and Christana Agularia have better techniques and instruments. Adele is average at best.
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That was me who said Adele was a peasant and Cèline the Queen not Luke. I was joking tho, it's clear tho Cèline can sing circles around Adele, and that's not because I'm a huge Cèline fan and this is the Cèline Dion forum. It's just the truth, ANYONE who knows anything About music should agree that Celine's instrument is FAR superior to Adele. Even Ariana Garande and Christana Agularia have better techniques and instruments. Adele is average at best.

Find me three people who know stuff about music and who say that Adele is an average singer...

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Find me three people who know stuff about music and who say that Adele is an average singer...

 

Listen when you have artists like Cèline, Mariah, Whitney, Barbra, Ella, Aretha, Christina.

 

These all are ABOVE average singers who Adele can't hold a torch to.

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People are ridiculously moronic about this. Adele is not an average singer. Anyone who truly thinks that needs their ears checked. Saying adele is NOT an average singer is not the same as putting her in the category of celine/mariah/Whitney.

 

I mean, Jesus Christ people what is the deal?? Why are we even discussing this adele and celine comparison again...

 

MOVE ON!

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People are ridiculously moronic about this. Adele is not an average singer. Anyone who truly thinks that needs their ears checked. Saying adele is NOT an average singer is not the same as putting her in the category of celine/mariah/Whitney.

 

I mean, Jesus Christ people what is the deal?? Why are we even discussing this adele and celine comparison again...

 

MOVE ON!

 

Well then I guess I'm a moron because I think she's average I think Demi Lovato has a better instrument and that says a lot . Les agree to disagree.

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Hey I signed onto a Celine forum and all they do is discuss Adele..... :wacko:
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I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
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Hey I signed onto a Celine forum and all they do is discuss Adele..... :wacko:

YES!!!! :hmm:

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I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!

Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant! post-26465-0-84517800-1427302581_thumb.gif

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Now you're making a fool of yourself quoting me exactly and summarizing what you said forgetting the sarcasm and mean comments. Now she's a peasant. I know, I know, it's supposed to be humor. So funny.

You are also making a fool of yourself with all those Pseudo-technicalities. Next, when asked about their profession, singers will have to say: I'm a singer AND a voice Loool. Totally unrelated ����. No one ever says Taylor SWift is a great singer though. I wonder why.

Thanks also for the lesson about the greatest vocalists ever but I'm not saying that Adele is in their league. However, not being a Celine, Mariah or Whitney does not equate being an average singer. Kelly Clarkson saying she's a big vocalist is not enough for you? Adele's technique is not perfect but if we forget that one live at the Grammys, she's rarely off key.

Anyone with common sense can see you're just a hater who does not think clearly when it's about Adele.

Pseudo-technicalities? Why pseudo? Because they burst your bubble so without arguments you decide to call what I am saying wrong? A singer possesses the voice. But how singers use their voice is what makes them bad, good or great. A similar example can be models: It is not enough to have a pretty face. The model needs to train, to know how to walk, how to pose, how to be expressive and so on. These skills make the model good not the beauty alone. Same way a good singer is more than just a pretty voice. This is actually the reason singers have to train. To evolve and use their gift better.

 

I brought up the singers to prove that every singer that is hailed as a great vocalist is known to excel in a specific area. Adele? Nope. And you still can't give an argument to support her singing. And you are still dodging the question about the experts that praised her technique. You have been cornered and it is embarrassing.

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People are ridiculously moronic about this. Adele is not an average singer. Anyone who truly thinks that needs their ears checked. Saying adele is NOT an average singer is not the same as putting her in the category of celine/mariah/Whitney.

 

I mean, Jesus Christ people what is the deal?? Why are we even discussing this adele and celine comparison again...

 

MOVE ON!

First, don't say I'm being moronic. Second, I am not comparing Adele to anyone. This is not a comparison. I made an affirmative statement that I am not fond of Adele because she is an average singer and her fan went wild. And by average I am not implying bad, but she is not good either. She is what we call decent.

 

And again this has not been Adele VS Celine at all. Peace.

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Sorry but this thread (for me anyway) is ��

Can we perhaps all move on from this debate/argument/whatever you want to call it, and get back to posting nice stuff?? Pretty please? ��

Not saying everyone's not entitled to share opinions or defend their posts etc, because we all know we can, but surely enough is enough for this particular subject ��

Hey I signed onto a Celine forum and all they do is discuss Adele..... :wacko:

Ιnstead of making remarks on what peple do or on what they should be doing, please move on and discuss whatever you want to discuss. Nothing is stopping you. I take part in this argument and I still have posted and discussed more videos the past week than both of you have. Edited by LukeD
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Now you're making a fool of yourself quoting me exactly and summarizing what you said forgetting the sarcasm and mean comments. Now she's a peasant. I know, I know, it's supposed to be humor. So funny.

I am not forgetting any comment. Only the 3 comments I cited were posted about her and you talked about hatred and resentment. The peasant joke came later.
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For what it's worth, I think they're just very different singers, each gifted in her own way. Celine has a magnificent instrument, probably greater range and power and flexibility (I'm no vocal expert, but it seems that way), and an unparalleled command of the stage and ability to connect with the audience.

 

Adele is an incredibly talented songwriter, with an amazing ability to craft original, genuine songs that tell emotional stories that resonate with people -- and her delivery and interpretation are so perfect for the songs she's written, so it just heightens that emotional resonance.

 

For me, certain Adele songs -- like When We Were Young -- are a rare blend of meaningful, poetic lyrics with a melody and a delivery that perfectly support the lyrical meaning to create a moment where I really *feel* the emotion of what's being sung in a way that can bring me to tears -- something I've also seen in a few of the songs JJG has written for Celine, but that's really rare.

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