"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Brandon]

I think her musical experimentation is not doing her any favor sales wise especially in the US (Taking Chances and LMBTL album). Casual fans and general public doesn't want her to sing songs like Rihanna or Katy Perry. That is not what she is famous for. She needs to go back to her roots. Sing love songs. I'd say she needs to go back to David Foster.

Wow if you think Taking Chances and LMBTL is some huge "experimentation"

And why does she always have to go back to her "roots" of singing love songs. And why always David Foster??

You're pigeon-holing her. Don't you think she's been in the business long enough to deserve a chance to explore a bit. What about Jazz, Blues and R&B, Latin-Salsa and Reggaeton. Celine should do a collab with Sean Paul.

[CelinesDIVO5]

I absolutely love the sound of "L'etoile." I would love an English song in this style. Or even have a good English lyric to fit the melody of the song. They don't have to try and adapt or translate it from French. Just make a completely different song.

[Javito]

I absolutely love the sound of "L'etoile." I would love an English song in this style. Or even have a good English lyric to fit the melody of the song. They don't have to try and adapt or translate it from French. Just make a completely different song.

 

You will enjoy the instrumental version in the upcoming album then

 

And if you like L'étoile, you should probably like the 1f&4t album too. It's so in the line of those acoustic, country-vibe songs

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

You will enjoy the instrumental version in the upcoming album then

 

And if you like L'étoile, you should probably like the 1f&4t album too. It's so in the line of those acoustic, country-vibe songs

 

Maybe l will write it myself. I wanted to write English lyrics for "Ma faille" and "Tu sauras" as well.

 

 

1f4t is one of my favorite albums of all time. Even though I don't understand a word of it.

 

 

Edited July 13, 2017 at 08:44 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[Javito]

So if you understand the lyrics, you'll fall in love with the quality of them. Several songs are like poetry put into music (like Apprends-moi)

[celinesounds]

So if you understand the lyrics, you'll fall in love with the quality of them. Several songs are like poetry put into music (like Apprends-moi)

 

it's very difficult to translate lyrics and have the same emotion in both languages

Edited July 14, 2017 at 02:27 PM by celinesounds

[Javito]

 

 

it's very difficult to translate lyrics and have the same emotion in both languages

 

They managed to do it on Je t'aime encore, the English version being as good as the French one (if not better!)😍❤️❤️❤️

[québecflower]

They managed to do it on Je t'aime encore, the English version being as good as the French one (if not better!)❤️❤️❤️

i would think this is the exception. the same way you can't translate songs in french. They did l'envie d'aimer, into the greatest reward , great but this is not the same meaning. I prefer the greatest reward , probably because this is Celine . If you take Si c'était à refaire for example, i doubt they could translate , the words and the sound , an open A at the end of the phrases, that's make for good resonance. What could they do in english for the sound to be as perfect.

[CelinesDIVO5]

i would think this is the exception. the same way you can't translate songs in french. They did l'envie d'aimer, into the greatest reward , great but this is not the same meaning. I prefer the greatest reward , probably because this is Celine . If you take Si c'était à refaire for example, i doubt they could translate , the words and the sound , an open A at the end of the phrases, that's make for good resonance. What could they do in english for the sound to be as perfect.

 

Also, like I said, they could also just write a completely different song and use the melody. I wouldn't mind that. Since I don't understand French, I rely on the musical composition to feel the song. I absolutely love the sound of "L'etoile." I don't particularly care whether or not the lyrical content is an exact translation. A writer could just write something beautiful in English, without trying to recreate the poetry of the French lyrics.

[Your_Su_Phu]

"I don't know" was a pretty decent translation. On the other hand, "If that's what it takes" is pretty but generic as hell and lacks any of the poetry of PQTME.

[québecflower]

Also, like I said, they could also just write a completely different song and use the melody. I wouldn't mind that. Since I don't understand French, I rely on the musical composition to feel the song. I absolutely love the sound of "L'etoile." I don't particularly care whether or not the lyrical content is an exact translation. A writer could just write something beautiful in English, without trying to recreate the poetry of the French lyrics.

L'étoile is great, if they could put it in english with decent lyrics, why not... I think they have to respect the meaning at a minimum. It is a very happy songs with happy lyrics, it should stay the same.

[québecflower]

"I don't know" was a pretty decent translation. On the other hand, "If that's what it takes" is pretty but generic as hell and lacks any of the poetry of PQTME.

the meaning was ok, but they change Je sais pas , for I don't know, not as good a sound.

[CelinesDIVO5]

I wrote these lyrics over 13 years ago while listening to "Retiens-moi." I wasn't trying to translate the song, or even write English lyrics that had anything to do with the original song. I wrote about the current situation at that time of my life. I'm still proud of the result.

 

 

I'm Still Me

Lyrics: Matthew Wisneski

April 26,2004

 

I once held something deep inside

In fear that it would ruin my life.

Oh, I'm still me

 

But now I'm not afraid to say

I'm preparing for my soul's release.

Oh, I'm still me.

 

I'm still me

I have not changed.

The sun seems to be shining on me

Whether skies are dark or light.

I'm still me, that loving me.

The happy, carefree, funny young boy,

With that never ending smile.

 

I no longer hold a secret

I now can be who I really am.

Oh, I'm still me.

 

I'm happier than I've ever been

Me emotions are flying free.

Oh, I'm still me.

 

I'm still me,

Always me,

Preferring truth over all the lies,

That I'd kept for all of my life.

I'm still me,

Sensitive me,

Not afraid to shed any tears.

I'm still me, forever more

 

Oh, I was brought down so easily,

But now I stand like solid rock.

Here to stay, I'm still me.

 

Don't hate me...

For wanting to be strong,

For wanting the chance to be happy...

Get out of misery.

 

Don't hate me,

For my wanting the chance to love,

For setting my feelings free,

And mending my broken heart.

That is all...

 

That is all,

I'm still me...

[CelinesDIVO5]

L'étoile is great, if they could put it in english with decent lyrics, why not... I think they have to respect the meaning at a minimum. It is a very happy songs with happy lyrics, it should stay the same.

 

Oh, they should absolutely stick with the mood of the song. The music suits happiness and upbeat attitude.

[CelinesDIVO5]

the meaning was ok, but they change Je sais pas , for I don't know, not as good a sound.

 

But, isn't "I don't know" the literal translation of "Je sais pas?"

[québecflower]

But, isn't "I don't know" the literal translation of "Je sais pas?"

this is the exact translation, but you hear the sound as vs ow , it is not as good , and the same can be said for the rest of the song, it doesn't sound as good.

[CelinesDIVO5]

this is the exact translation, but you hear the sound as vs ow , it is not as good , and the same can be said for the rest of the song, it doesn't sound as good.

 

I mean, I don't think it sounds bad. I heard IDK before I ever heard JSP though. I think being used to the first version we hear, leaves us a tad bit partial lol.

Edited July 14, 2017 at 05:05 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[québecflower]

I mean, I don't think it sounds bad. I heard IDK before I ever heard JSP though. I think being used to the first version we hear, leaves us a tad bit partial lol.

can be that also, i have heard Je sais pas hundreds of time before hearing the other, so... D'eux has played non-stop in my house and car for a long time..

[celinesounds]

They managed to do it on Je t'aime encore, the English version being as good as the French one (if not better!)��❤️❤️❤️

 

I think versions using the same instrumental is just a way of saving money and time

 

I love JTE, for all of us the English is the original, it came earlier

 

I prefer to have new songs on the new album

 

she can hire a songwriter to write with her, that would be the best

 

besides a music is composed using the lyrics sound, rhymes and Syllables

Edited July 14, 2017 at 11:29 PM by celinesounds

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I think versions using the same instrumental is just a way of saving money and time

 

 

besides a music is composed using the lyrics sound, rhymes and Syllables

 

I don't think it's to save money or time. In the case of ITWIT, and IDK, I believe they wanted to try and (for lack of better words) share a sound from her French music with the non French speaking market. Best way at the time was to take two of her most popular French songs and introduce them to the English speaking market in a language they could understand. I think they're both beautiful songs, and that they also fit perfectly on "Falling Into You."

 

 

As for music being composed around lyrics, that's not always the case. A lot of times, songwriters grasp a melody, and compose the piece without lyrics.

[Bruno Portugal]

In my opinion, it's time to record an all brand-new album.

Celine have recorded some French masterpieces. Now it's time to release amazing new English material.

[Javito]

Let's get it from where she left in A New Day Has Come and One Heart... A well crafted album that combined perfect ballads while staying current with quality fresh material too Edited July 15, 2017 at 10:51 AM by Javito

[celinesounds]

I don't think it's to save money or time. In the case of ITWIT, and IDK, I believe they wanted to try and (for lack of better words) share a sound from her French music with the non French speaking market. Best way at the time was to take two of her most popular French songs and introduce them to the English speaking market in a language they could understand. I think they're both beautiful songs, and that they also fit perfectly on "Falling Into You."

 

 

As for music being composed around lyrics, that's not always the case. A lot of times, songwriters grasp a melody, and compose the piece without lyrics.

 

they had the problem with speacktor, and they needed songs, that's why FIY came out with 3 versions of the french album

[Taking Chances]

Celine should do a collab with Sean Paul.

 

No. Sean Paul? She might #ss well collaborate with Pitbul then and jump on the J.Lo train.

 

If Celine should collaborate with someone different from her genre or edge her music style up a bit I'd much rather have her work with Daft Punk or The Weeknd, or both.

[scielle]

I'd love a Jack White-produced album. Think it could do wonders for her. (I mean, just look at what he did with Loretta Lynn!)

Celine has always been more of a rocker chick at heart than her albums would have us believe; I'd love to see more of that girl.

[celinesounds]

how about the Snoop Dogg Song, he wrote a song for her like 10 years ago

 

 

http://metro.co.uk/2007/05/17/duet-for-snoop-and-celine-dion-370063/

 

“I got beats for everybody, man… . I got beats for Celine Dion and Sade.”

 

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2007/05/17/duet-for-snoop-and-celine-dion-370063/#ixzz4muN2EEiV

[Naiomi zhannah]

So does Celine usually like ballads or do you think she would rather do something diffrent. Instead of people assuming or telling her you should do ballads because of so and so.

[MrTim212]

Let's get it from where she left in A New Day Has Come and One Heart... A well crafted album that combined perfect ballads while staying current with quality fresh material too

 

^This 100%!!

[celinesounds]

i'd love to have one or 2 duets in the album

 

 

maybe with Eminem or will i am or snoop dogg

 

and with Sia or Alicia Keys or Beyoncé

[SuperLove4Celine]

i'd love to have one or 2 duets in the album

 

 

maybe with Eminem or will i am or snoop dogg

 

and with Sia or Alicia Keys or Beyoncé

 

I'm okay with Alicia Keys. The others? No, thank you. If she is to duet with an artist on her next album, I'd prefer to be someone new/up-and-coming, or someone barely known in the industry. However, IF it "must" be someone well-known, I would LOVE for a collaboration with Zedd. The work he did on "Clarity" was absolutely beautiful. The same with "Stay The Night."