"Courage" album - Official Topic

January 1, 2020 at 04:13 PM

After watching this year's (adorable) New Year's message, I was just dreaming up a video concept for "Nobody's Watching".

Imagine Céline alone in her house, dancing around 'like nobody's watching', while trying on all kinds of outfits.

Would be so 'on brand' and viral-worthy, it would definitely help sell the album.

January 1, 2020 at 05:20 PM

After watching this year's (adorable) New Year's message, I was just dreaming up a video concept for "Nobody's Watching".
Imagine Céline alone in her house, dancing around 'like nobody's watching', while trying on all kinds of outfits.
Would be so 'on brand' and viral-worthy, it would definitely help sell the album.

Honestly I love that concept. You should suggest that to her team.

January 1, 2020 at 06:26 PM

After watching this year's (adorable) New Year's message, I was just dreaming up a video concept for "Nobody's Watching".
Imagine Céline alone in her house, dancing around 'like nobody's watching', while trying on all kinds of outfits.
Would be so 'on brand' and viral-worthy, it would definitely help sell the album.

Maybe she could spend the first verse carrying shopping bags and putting them on the rack before trying them on?? I definitely love the concept!

January 1, 2020 at 07:08 PM

Do we think the footage of her dancing around on this New Year’s msg was around when she started with her ballet training as it looks old footage (ie b4 her arms got extremely toned 😂)? I just think this would tie in with her encouraging us to find our passions and go for it, just as she clearly has.

Also, think this is the quietest she and her team have been on social media around this time of year for a long time. I miss the family photos, much more honest and with that personal touch.

Anyway, Happy New Year Everyone! Hope 2020’s a good one for you all xx

January 1, 2020 at 08:21 PM

According to the Dutch fan club, CDIP, we should be getting a new single soon! :clap: I wonder if this is gonna be LD or a different one...

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January 2, 2020 at 02:09 PM

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According to Amazon, Courage vinyl is the standard edition. 16 tracks with no bonus songs.

January 2, 2020 at 04:21 PM

https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/Celine-Dion/dp/B07YVJRNZ9/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=celine+dion+courage&qid=1577973930&sprefix=celine&sr=8-2
According to Amazon, Courage vinyl is the standard edition. 16 tracks with no bonus songs.

Well that blows.

January 2, 2020 at 06:33 PM

never have i called celine retarded or a troll. It's simply disgusting and disgraceful. I am not a troll. You point out the fact celine is lazy and doesn't promote you get horrific personal insults. The person who called myself retarded is a complete disgrace. I stand by my point the album has flopped through lazy poor promotion. The tour is poor. To be called retarded is appalling.

in your defense, and being kind of realistic, you're just saying the same a lot of people in here have said, and other don't want to say. You go straight to your point. That's what I see

January 2, 2020 at 06:37 PM

However, there wouldn’t have been as many tickets sold which would have resulted in fewer sales for the album. This is because the later she starts the tour, the later they can put the tickets on sale (around 5 months in advance for Céline usually) so if she would’ve started the tour around 5 months after the album release, they probably would have put the tickets on sale around the time of the album release and therefore the album wouldn’t have benefited from ticket bundle as much, therefore not securing it the number 1 spot.

We can't get everything in this life, or a number 1 album (for a week), or better timing for the album promotion, tour, celine's care of her voice etc...

but as I said, nothing of this matters anymore.

January 2, 2020 at 08:02 PM

Same release date as the supposed PMLALS haha.

I thought I read earlier it would contain a 30 page booklet?

https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/Celine-Dion/dp/B07YVJRNZ9/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=celine+dion+courage&qid=1577973930&sprefix=celine&sr=8-2

According to Amazon, Courage vinyl is the standard edition. 16 tracks with no bonus songs.

January 2, 2020 at 08:08 PM

Quite honestly guys, why are you so concerned and upset if Celine and Sony obviously don’t give a damn about it. I came to peace with things as they are. It is what it is. Ultimately, it’s their own businesses. We are just a bunch of disappointed fans. They could have massive success with everything if they would care more, but obviously they don’t feel the need to. It is what it is. Oh, and by the way, happy new year to everyone!

Edited January 2, 2020 at 08:09 PM by ryba

January 2, 2020 at 09:13 PM

I just found that article about the 5 best songs from Courage according to the author.

1-Courage

2-Baby

3-Imperfections

4-Change My Mind

5-How Did You Get Here

https://www.envedette.ca/potins-stars-quebec/musique/celine-dion-les-5-meilleures-chansons-de-son-nouvel-album-courage-1.10239948

January 2, 2020 at 10:00 PM

Quite honestly guys, why are you so concerned and upset if Celine and Sony obviously don't give a damn about it. I came to peace with things as they are. It is what it is. Ultimately, it's their own businesses. We are just a bunch of disappointed fans. They could have massive success with everything if they would care more, but obviously they don't feel the need to. It is what it is. Oh, and by the way, happy new year to everyone!

Yeah. If she cared more, she'd release more albums more frequently, but she doesn't. It's just not her priority. We just have to appreciate what we've been given, even if we want more.

I just hope she'll continue to make new English music and won't stop doing it completely. At this point anything is a bonus, and I do wish she would be more passionate about it, but oh well. I will enjoy the music regardless. The last three English albums had six years in between them, and that gab is probably not gonna shrink as she gets older

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I wish they would release a "Collector Series Part 2" with only unreleased songs for the fans. No promotion or performances would be needed. Just put together an album from the Sony vault for the fans. That would be incredible.

Edited January 2, 2020 at 10:02 PM by Taking Chances

January 3, 2020 at 12:09 AM

Yeah. If she cared more, she'd release more albums more frequently, but she doesn't. It's just not her priority. We just have to appreciate what we've been given, even if we want more.

I just hope she'll continue to make new English music and won't stop doing it completely. At this point anything is a bonus, and I do wish she would be more passionate about it, but oh well. I will enjoy the music regardless. The last three English albums had six years in between them, and that gab is probably not gonna shrink as she gets older

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Again, I don't like when people talk about the 6 years gap between each album, like if Celine was doing nothing in the meantime...

2007 Taking Chances, D'elles

2008 Taking Chances world tour

2009 TCWT ends and Celine takes a well deserved break

2010 still in break but releases Through the eyes of the world, and The Concert/Le Spectacle, the twins.

2011 still in break, and came back to Vegas, starts to record LMBTL

2012 Sans Attendre, Vegas

2013 LMBTL,Une seule fois and mini tour, Vegas

2014 Vegas, releases Une seule fois live cd, Celine puts her career on hold

2015 she's back but taking care of René, Vegas

2016 Rene dies, and still Celine releases EUS (as a tribute, I guess), Vegas and mini tour

2017 starts recording Courage, Vegas and mini tour

2018 For some reason, Courage is postponed, Vegas and mini tour

2019 Vegas ends, Courage world tour, Courage is released.

How could she record another english album while in break and having children, and also while taking care of her sick husband? (We should be grateful she had the courage indeed to record EUS). So we had 9 releases in 13 years(6 studio, 3 live), not that bad, considering her personal circumstances on 2011, 2014 and 2015, and a huge tour in 2008-2009.

On the other hand, she could concentrate on recording albums instead of performing in Europe and Asia (2016,2017,2018) or even in Vegas (2011-2019)

What I can't deny, is that, ok, Celine had her personal issues, and laboral contracts back then, but now she has an album, and is just ignoring it!!!

Edited January 3, 2020 at 12:13 AM by SantiagoColorado

January 3, 2020 at 01:06 AM

Again, I don't like when people talk about the 6 years gap between each album, like if Celine was doing nothing in the meantime...

How could she record another english album while in break and having children, and also while taking care of her sick husband? (We should be grateful she had the courage indeed to record EUS). So we had 9 releases in 13 years(6 studio, 3 live), not that bad, considering her personal circumstances on 2011, 2014 and 2015, and a huge tour in 2008-2009.

On the other hand, she could concentrate on recording albums instead of performing in Europe and Asia (2016,2017,2018) or even in Vegas (2011-2019)

What I can't deny, is that, ok, Celine had her personal issues, and laboral contracts back then, but now she has an album, and is just ignoring it!!!

I'm not trying to be rude, but it doesn't matter if you don't like it. I very specifically said new English music isn't the priority. There's no reason to get upset by that and mention all the other things she done as if that has anything to do with what I said. It's all about priorities, which is the whole point.

The fact is that it's been six years between her last three English albums. I'm not saying she's been lazy, or hasn't been doing other things. Celine is one of the most hard working singers out there. I'm just saying that making new English albums isn't her priority and we all just have to deal with that. If Celine wanted to make it her priority, she certainly would. There's a reason why it takes such a long time between new music now. She just doesn't care about it and she doesn't even care to perform the new songs on her Courage world tour.

Apart from taking a break to care for Rene and having kids, which of course is understandable, Celine could have made a lot more albums if she wanted to. But she wants to perform her hit songs and go own tour instead. That's the reality. Celine's passion for new music just isn't there in the same way she loves to be on stage.

I honestly wish Celine would take a break from all the damn touring. It's clearly not good for her voice. Imagine what a two year break could do for her instead of going on a world tour almost immediately after Vegas. But touring and performing is her priority and it's what she loves to do, so we just have to deal with that as well. She's made her choice and it probably happy. I respect that, but I wish she'd love to make new music more than she does.

Like I said, anything we get at this point is a bonus. So I appreciate anything she'll give us.

Edit: Celine has some passion projects that I don't care about at all. Ranging from perfumes to kids clothes to fashion and what not. I want her to be happy and do the things she loves, but I personally wish she'd loved making new music more than all those things.

Edited January 3, 2020 at 01:18 AM by Taking Chances

January 3, 2020 at 02:03 AM

The problem is not her recording new music the problem is her not PERFORMING new music. That's what I don't understand. She says she loves the new stuff but it never sees the light of day.

January 3, 2020 at 04:57 AM

She s no more interested in music simply.she s a business woman.just look at her last series of concerts and the orientation of the new chapter of her career...no more artistery.she thinks i m Celine Dion and that s enough.No no nooooo...Celine Dion =$$$$$$ Edited January 3, 2020 at 05:00 AM by vlad

January 3, 2020 at 04:58 AM

She s no more interested in music simply.she s a business woman.just look at her last series of concerts and the orientation of the new chapter of her career...no more artistery.she thinks i m Celine Dion and that s enough.No no nooooo...Celine Dion =$$$$$$ Edited January 3, 2020 at 04:59 AM by vlad

January 3, 2020 at 05:37 AM

She most probably thinks :i ivestigate less(in concerts production,videoclips quality , promotions.. )i gain more $$$$.

That s true maybe for shorter term but not for longer terms. We are seeing already the consequences...

January 3, 2020 at 02:01 PM

She most probably thinks :i ivestigate less(in concerts production,videoclips quality , promotions.. )i gain more $$$$.
That s true maybe for shorter term but not for longer terms. We are seeing already the consequences...

That's the point, do I only want some money or to become an icon, a legend?. A statement tha artists like Cher, Madonna and Mariah understad very well.

January 3, 2020 at 02:32 PM

It’s very obvious that she doesn’t care about music anymore. The thing now is business

January 3, 2020 at 02:58 PM

I'm not trying to be rude, but it doesn't matter if you don't like it. I very specifically said new English music isn't the priority. There's no reason to get upset by that and mention all the other things she done as if that has anything to do with what I said. It's all about priorities, which is the whole point.

The fact is that it's been six years between her last three English albums. I'm not saying she's been lazy, or hasn't been doing other things. Celine is one of the most hard working singers out there. I'm just saying that making new English albums isn't her priority and we all just have to deal with that. If Celine wanted to make it her priority, she certainly would. There's a reason why it takes such a long time between new music now. She just doesn't care about it and she doesn't even care to perform the new songs on her Courage world tour, or even promote the album.

Apart from taking a break to care for Rene and having kids, which of course is understandable, Celine could have made a lot more albums if she wanted to. But she wants to perform her hit songs and go own tour instead. That's the reality. Celine's passion for new music just isn't there in the same way she loves to be on stage.

I honestly wish Celine would take a break from all the damn touring. It's clearly not good for her voice. Imagine what a two year break could do for her instead of going on a world tour almost immediately after Vegas. But touring and performing is her priority and it's what she loves to do, so we just have to deal with that as well. She's made her choice and it probably happy. I respect that, but I wish she'd love to make new music more than she does.

Like I said, anything we get at this point is a bonus. So I appreciate anything she'll give us.

Edit: Celine has some passion projects that I don't care about at all. Ranging from perfumes to kids clothes to fashion and what not. I want her to be happy and do the things she loves, but I personally wish she'd loved making new music more than all those things.

Didn't mean to be rude either, my apologies, but now I got your point.

Edited January 3, 2020 at 02:58 PM by SantiagoColorado

January 3, 2020 at 03:01 PM

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Quite honestly guys, why are you so concerned and upset if Celine and Sony obviously don't give a damn about it. I came to peace with things as they are. It is what it is. Ultimately, it's their own businesses. We are just a bunch of disappointed fans. They could have massive success with everything if they would care more, but obviously they don't feel the need to. It is what it is. Oh, and by the way, happy new year to everyone!

Because we truly love Céline, want the best for her and invest a lot in her career. By not bothering, her team and Sony waste all the love and money we give, instead of using it to further grow Céline’s career. Happy New Year!

Edited January 3, 2020 at 03:01 PM by Céline RO

January 3, 2020 at 03:15 PM

The problem is not her recording new music the problem is her not PERFORMING new music. That's what I don't understand. She says she loves the new stuff but it never sees the light of day.

There is one simple explanation: she likes performing the 40 songs she chose for this tour more than the 17 unperformed Courage songs. For example, just because “Change My Mind” is new and she loves it, doesn’t mean she loves singing it more than BATB. She has said before that she doesn’t have to prove herself anymore, she just performs because it’s her passion and, last but certainly not least, wants a career and not a hit. Therefore, why would she be concerned about the commercial success of her new songs? Why perform them when she can perform songs she enjoys more instead.

January 3, 2020 at 05:00 PM

There is one simple explanation: she likes performing the 40 songs she chose for this tour more than the 17 unperformed Courage songs. For example, just because “Change My Mind” is new and she loves it, doesn’t mean she loves singing it more than BATB. She has said before that she doesn’t have to prove herself anymore, she just performs because it’s her passion and, last but certainly not least, wants a career and not a hit. Therefore, why would she be concerned about the commercial success of her new songs? Why perform them when she can perform songs she enjoys more instead.

I completely understand your point but then why has she said multiple, multiple times that she's sick of those songs? No matter, I will be seeing her next month but I'm not going to multiple shows like I had planned.

January 3, 2020 at 05:47 PM

Week 7 - UK:

Official Albums Chart - #49

Album Sales - #24

Album Downloads - #77

Scotland - #26

January 3, 2020 at 05:55 PM

Week 7 - UK:

Official Albums Chart - #49
Album Sales - #24
Album Downloads - #77
Scotland - #26

We can say that releasing album during xmas time is actually her power sales. People bought for gifting

January 3, 2020 at 06:07 PM

I think what yall dont realise is that for albums to be made for her, promoted and released, they need to make money BACK on that, and in some cases, however long it takes to make money back on said album or simply to feel economically confident to release it, they wont release. Sony as well as herself and her team make very little off of her new song sales and streams, barely anything, where as, she can make a million dollars for both herself and others in one concert... the music industry is a *BUSINESS* first and foremost and it seems many live in some sort of la la land where they don’t process that everything is business and economically charged, the amount of money the process of making, releasing and promoting an album costs far outweighs that which theyre ever making at this point

January 3, 2020 at 06:34 PM

Just seen that For the Lover That I Lost has been added to Apple Music ‘Heartbreak Pop Playlist’

January 3, 2020 at 07:09 PM

Because we truly love Céline, want the best for her and invest a lot in her career. By not bothering, her team and Sony waste all the love and money we give, instead of using it to further grow Céline’s career. Happy New Year!

it doesn’t matter, because, as you can clearly see, they waste our love anyway. That’s why I stopped being bothered. It is what it is. I’m tired of begging for behind the scenes stuff and making offs. If they don’t want to give it to her loyal die hard fans then so be it. Let her shoot stuppid shopping commercials and focus on children clothing. Obviously they forgot that she is a singer and people became her fans because of her talent. But well...

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