"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Davey84]

There’s been a lot of negativity on this forum lately, so I wanted to look at what she’s actually done throughout the year. This is not an exhaustive list for her 2019 promo or a record of her complete body of work for the year. Much of this info is taken from this forum.

 

Chap my #ss for this post’s length, but had to get off my chest.

 

Oh and btw, Celine is the greatest singer I’ve ever heard, one of the greatest performers to have lived, and a wonderful woman...proud to be her fan and always will be.

 

Thank you very much for this post!! It's amazing how much she did this year! And this doesn't even include finishing the last songs of Courage and the photoshoot (probably done in September) and her raising 3 kids!

 

Please everybody, keep this a fun place. Yes there can be discussions and disagreements, but no there can't be swearing and personal attacks!! :flowers:

[noyau]

Céline is now 8th in Switzerland (she was 1st last week). I hope that the next weeks she will be in the top 5 again thanks to the Paléo effect...

[jepoi]

But we are all fans and whatever criticisms we have about her or her team come from a good place. We all want her to succeed at the end of the day especially now that we see this album has so much potential. We are not celine haters.

 

Anyway, i get your point. I just wish, from here on, we can be more tolerant of other fans' opinions and not attack each other.

 

Peace.

 

 

Maybe I need to explain the difference to some of you to what is an opinion and what is being disrespectful, cause maybe the new standard in this world has changed... An opinion is I dont like the new songs Celine recorded, I dont like the setlist on the tour, I think celine should do more promo.. If you read my post you will see that i said that I respect peoples opinions.

 

Being disrespectful: When someone makes something with love and you get these kinds of comments: Her team and her lazy and its their fault her album bommed, Celine needs to do more promo in her off week, it's Celines own fault that her album bommed, she is not a business woman so she needs a manager, I understand that she has a family but it's her job to promote this album, She wanted to be a singer so she needs to focus on that and not all the fashion and other things...

 

So I'm not the one being disrespectful, I agree I might have been angry yesterday seeing all these so called fans and hypocritical people in here sometimes make these type of statements... Made me angry but I am here to defend her as a human being which none of us have the right to judge nor being disrespectful towards... If you don't like people telling you how you live your life dont do it to others.. And if you cant see the disrespect in these sayings than seek a professional and let them explain...

 

The funny thing is everybody is making statements which they know nothing of, no music industry veterans in here, no one from her team that is explaining their choices, or why certain things were chosen or done. It's just speculation from some fans that have had an imagination of how this album release and tour will go and how they wanted everything to be without considering what Celine would like to do and then when it doesnt go their way they turn on her. not fair.

 

As it was stated go check back all their comments in this thread up until a few weeks ago how different some of them were sounding... So in other words I respect everyone as long as you respect Celine. If you dont I will show you the same kindness.

[joaofilho]

It's sad to see an artist we love drastically falling into position these days, but the reality is, let's not blame the streaming, it's not that, where are the packages with cds with tour tickets, make sure all those who bought tickets claiming her albums she would go back to the top but it seems that this is not happening.

[flutefreak]

Finally got my concert ticket CD Monday!! Never got the confirmation email that it was sent so was quite surprised when it showed up. I figured they forgot about me.

[Robrules3]

On a more positive note, the daily views for imperfections is growing and is now averaging over 70 000 views per day

[Xpresso]

It's sad to see an artist we love drastically falling into position these days, but the reality is, let's not blame the streaming, it's not that, where are the packages with cds with tour tickets, make sure all those who bought tickets claiming her albums she would go back to the top but it seems that this is not happening.

Actually, in the US the main problem IS streaming because the main chart is heavily weighted on the streaming component.

If you look at the US sales chart, she is #21. So streaming is the main issue. In markets where streaming is not so heavily weighted, she is holding well on the charts (UK, France, Canada).

 

[Xpresso]

Céline is now 8th in Switzerland (she was 1st last week). I hope that the next weeks she will be in the top 5 again thanks to the Paléo effect...

But there are 6 new albums ahead of her so the drop is not very significant.

[Xpresso]

UK Mid-week chart: #12

[DionFanAlways]

Finally got my concert ticket CD Monday!! Never got the confirmation email that it was sent so was quite surprised when it showed up. I figured they forgot about me.

This is what happened to me also. I never got notice, it just magically appeared!

[marc-02]

Also, regardless of Courage dropping from #1 to #111 in week 2, it is NOT a flop!

It debuted at #1 in America, setting a record, sold over 100,000 units week 1 in America, Celine hit #1 on the Artist 100, the first time she has achieve that feat,

due to the success of Courage in week 1, and Celine also hit #1 in Canada, France, and several other countries as well, selling more than 250,000 copies it's first week.

Yes, it took an awful drop on the album chart in America week 2 but with the right promotion this album can achieve more success in America and worldwide, it can easily recover with more promo which would increase sales and keep the album charting. So, nobody should call Courage a flop.

 

Just as an example, Mariah Carey set a new record earlier this year with "All I Want For Christmas Is You", for the worst, biggest fall off of the Billboard 100 singles chart in history! Would people call that single a flop? No. So... stop calling Courage a flop because it dropped in the charts week 2. It's crazy and idiotic to say that.

link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2019/01/08/mariah-carey-sets-a-new-record-for-the-biggest-fall-off-the-singles-chart-in-history/#346b616f70ea

 

Oooh, I didn't know this happened to AIWFC. The record drop.

[ivo]

Lostening to the album in full for the second time, Céline really delivered a magnificent album! For me this was worth the 6 year wait!

[jpatdeleon09]

We can use this for the lambs WAHAHAHAHA LOL Bash more lambs we have this hahaha Edited December 4, 2019 at 03:46 PM by jpatdeleon09

[marc-02]

So its true! It was indeed an updated IACBTMN music video. The one they filmed in the castle!!!

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5qHLbwHXDd/?igshid=nqva51ed82wr

[joaofilho]

So its true! It was indeed an updated IACBTMN music video. The one they filmed in the castle!!!

 

https://www.instagra...id=nqva51ed82wr

This video for Instagram is amazing, because your team doesn't make some of their video clips like that, colorful, lights.

[Xpresso]

This video for Instagram is amazing, because your team doesn't make some of their video clips like that, colorful, lights.

Probably not the same budget that Sony gives Celine!! But I wish she would do great videos like this for her own music.

[zuv]

https://youtu.be/YHZECxJLjmQ

 

🤢🤢🤢🤢

No one told her that she would look like a superficial, overspending materialistic uncool woman?!??

New generation despise these kinds of ads.

 

Cool concept/story, but for all the wrong reasons. She doesn’t need that money from that store!!! At this point in her career she should do good for the planet, animals, humanity. Is that her legacy? Keep on shopping, buy more crap and destroy the planet?

 

REALLLY?!??!

 

I’m sooo disappointed ☹️

Edited December 4, 2019 at 05:56 PM by zuv

[DionFanAlways]

So its true! It was indeed an updated IACBTMN music video. The one they filmed in the castle!!!

 

https://www.instagra...id=nqva51ed82wr

Shopping overload for the rich and famous One big advertisement for the people who can? Very sure I bought some of these things for her......

 

She looks fab!

Edited December 4, 2019 at 05:45 PM by DionFanAlways

[sarit_celine]

Poor Javi, liking all the negative comments and not being able to comment himself...

 

 

There are other many fans here that are sharing their thoughts,

thoughts REAL SAD REALITY

about her and her tour, lack of promo etc, so mentioning him

in this context, really proves some memebers are going after him, still,

when he is not even able to reply back. That's quite sad.

 

Back then, some memebers cursed him for days in a row, so they broke the rules of this board

as well, but he was the only one to be blocked from this board, short time before new album

came out. This board has really double standards to the highest level.

[Peppercorn1991]

My friend called me and told me about the video!! I had t even seen it.

 

She said celine has done something epic! I was like erm what?

 

Kev x

[Loup_garou]

There are other many fans here that are sharing their thoughts,

thoughts REAL SAD REALITY

about her and her tour, lack of promo etc, so mentioning him

in this context, really proves some memebers are going after him, still,

when he is not even able to reply back. That's quite sad.

 

Back then, some memebers cursed him for days in a row, so they broke the rules of this board

as well, but he was the only one to be blocked from this board, short time before new album

came out. This board has really double standards to the highest level.

 

Well, no one is forcing you to stay

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

There are other many fans here that are sharing their thoughts,

thoughts REAL SAD REALITY

about her and her tour, lack of promo etc, so mentioning him

in this context, really proves some memebers are going after him, still,

when he is not even able to reply back. That's quite sad.

 

Back then, some memebers cursed him for days in a row, so they broke the rules of this board

as well, but he was the only one to be blocked from this board, short time before new album

came out. This board has really double standards to the highest level.

 

I’m not going to dog on Javito, but please don’t act like he was an innocent. This wasn’t just one time of him violating forum rules. He’s gotten many warning points before. Had had suspensions prior. These are facts. This was not his first offense. And I believe that any other person who had done the same as him, would deserve the same punishment. Only one or two (well, mainly one member who has used multiple accounts) come to mind.

Edited December 4, 2019 at 05:56 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[joaofilho]

No one told her that she would look like a superficial, overspending materialistic uncool woman?!??

New generation despise these kinds of ads.

 

Cool concept/story, but for all the wrong reasons. She doesn't need that money from that store!!! At this point in her career she should to good for the planet, animals, humanity. Is that her legacy? Keep on shopping, buy more crap and destroy the planet?

 

REALLLY?!??!

 

I'm sooo disappointed ☹️

This is just an advertisement, don't be offended, Celine is not superficial. I wanted her to do isos in her videos, a shame that Sony does not invest much.

[ruimarques]

Omg ... literally... can you please just stop being fans of her and leave this Forum? ... I feel so sorry for her, as everything she do, you just criticise!

 

I love the video and I find it very cool and funny 😂

Huge promotion of Celine in a good way! Not like she would do add for Crisps 😂

[sarit_celine]

Well, no one is forcing you to stay

 

Why on earth you're replying unrelated things to this post?

[Xpresso]

 

 

🤢🤢🤢🤢

No one told her that she would look like a superficial, overspending materialistic uncool woman?!??

New generation despise these kinds of ads.

 

Cool concept/story, but for all the wrong reasons. She doesnt need that money from that store!!! At this point in her career she should do good for the planet, animals, humanity. Is that her legacy? Keep on shopping, buy more crap and destroy the planet?

 

REALLLY?!??!

 

Im sooo disappointed ☹️

And you blame Celine for destroying the planet? Seriously?

Maybe you should first go after the large corporations instead of pointing the finger at Celine.

 

 

[mirage]

Hahahaha amazing!!

Now only if her videoclips would be this flashy

 

So its true! It was indeed an updated IACBTMN music video. The one they filmed in the castle!!!

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5qHLbwHXDd/?igshid=nqva51ed82wr

[sarit_celine]

I'm not going to dog on Javito, but please don't act like he was an innocent. This wasn't just one time of him violating forum rules. He's gotten many warning points before. Had had suspensions prior. These are facts. This was not his first offense. And I believe that any other person who had done the same as him, would deserve the same punishment. Only one or two (well, mainly one member who has used multiple accounts) come to mind.

 

But that wasn't the point of the post, "trouble guy" got blocked, hence I found it strange

that there is this need to go after him. I sensed that on many occasions that memebers

will go after him just because they enjoy to do so, so please let's not be innocent about that

you just see an example.

 

Let's agree that If one memeber has broke the rules,

same punishment has to be applied for all those memebers who did the exact thing for serval times.

I have nothing more to say, just that is sad to see such joy over a memeber that got blocked.

It's time to leave him alone.

Best.

[Xpresso]

 

 

Let's agree that If one memeber has broke the rules,

same punishment has to be applied for all those memebers who did the exact thing for serval times.

I have nothing more to say, just that is sad to see such joy over a memeber that got blocked.

It's time to leave him alone.

Best.

And I think it's best the let the moderators decide who needs to be banned or not. Edited December 4, 2019 at 06:22 PM by Xpresso

[DionFanAlways]

Omg ... literally... can you please just stop being fans of her and leave this Forum? ... I feel so sorry for her, as everything she do, you just criticise!

 

I love the video and I find it very cool and funny

Huge promotion of Celine in a good way! Not like she would do add for Crisps

It's very "camp".