"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Ajax]

Hum no need to be agressive. I know the review is not bad. I feel that THIS SENTENCE is really negative though. And I would absolutely hate if someone would said that to speak about my work.

[ryba]

Hum no need to be agressive. I know the review is not bad. I feel that THIS SENTENCE is really negative though. And I would absolutely hate if someone would said that to speak about my work.

yes, the journalist could have used other words instead of such a rather degrading methaphor

[marc-02]

I would also have to agree with the suggestion of one of the reviewers that the order of the songs be rearranged to follow Celine's "stages of grief."

 

At its current order, the tracklist seems disarranged. She sings FOMO at the start and talks about FILA.. but then a few songs later sings about having enough of his abusive lover in LD. Stays sad in Courage. Then talks about falling in love again in The Chase. Then heartbreak again in LAUN. Then bids goodbye in PG.

Edited November 11, 2019 at 02:32 PM by marc-02

[Xpresso]

 

 

This review is...I don't know, generic maybe. I feel like nothing much in it, and to make it longer the reviewer just put the lyrics in there.

It's just a dramatic way to say the album is varied. Writers try to throw funny words at the wall to see what sticks! Edited November 11, 2019 at 02:47 PM by Xpresso

[Xpresso]

 

 

This review also confirms that that lyrics in NW is indeed "party like a BELIEBER."

 

That's what I thought and then I read the Le Devoir review and it says "like a believer." Oh well... and one review says they only got the songs and not the booklet so I guess we won't know for sure until we see the official lyrics.

[noyau]

+ Le matin dimanche (Switzerland, and I made the picture ahahah, sorry because it's not very good. I will try to translate, but it's a good article, usually "Le matin dimanche" are not so kind with famous singers...)

 

https://www.facebook...?type=3

 

My self-made translation, really sorry if it sounds weird sometimes ^^

 

The courage found by Céline Dion

 

With an album made to hit the charts and a new world tour, the singer will destabilize the haters.

 

The new Céline Dion’s album is English-speaking. Maybe because of alternation, maybe to please everyone after an entirely French-speaking album released in 2016. Maybe it’s the consequence of a huge immersion in the USA, because of her Las Vegas residency, which began in 2003. The 8^th of June, she gave her 1141^st and last concert.

 

107 tour dates

 

Up to this day, her official website announces a tour of 107 dates, in Canada and in the USA, and then in Europe from May 2020. When we read this huge list of shows, we can ask ourselves if the Céline Dion’s appetite for the stage is not even bigger today.

 

Beyond the big roads and the inevitable capitals, she will dare some detours. The Polish will applaud her in Lodz and Cracovia, she will sing also in Nicosia, the Cyprus capital, and also on the Malt island. It’s not a tour, it’s a geographic quiz.

 

Céline Dion’s boldness, it’s also to decide to sing next summer in two open-air festivals, the Vieilles Charrues in France and our Paléo national, in a country setting and potentially muddy, face to a public who is not so involved into the dress code.

If the queen of Las Vegas accepts to sacrifice some flakes and a bit of her prestige (she represents for the moment the L’Oréal brand), it’s not to conquer a new public because the tickets will be bought very fast by fans who are already in the starting-blocks. Her goal today is to refresh her image. For a long time, we have seen in her as a diva but this concept is now pejorative, and synonym of an irreproachable technically singing but very mannered, paradoxically inexpressive.

 

Hit makers

 

In a little movie she published this year, we can see her as a truck driver in jeans and Ray-ban, driving a truck who leaves Las Vegas and drive her to the rest of her story. Let’s forget the limousine and the private plane.

 

Finally, there is this new album, which is important in this process of reinvention. It’s called “Courage” (we have to pronounce it “Koredj”, it’s English) and it’s relatively homogenous and not so “eclectic” as the official press release pretends. The chorus come fast, songs are mostly short and their pop ambition is uncontestable: every song seems to be written to become a classic.

 

For the manufacturers, Céline Dion gathered a lot of hit makers, men and women who collaborated with Eminem, P. Diddy, Coldplay, Janet Jackson… Besides the presences already announced of David Guetta and Sia, there is also the presence of Sam Smith for one of her most sentimental songs of the album (“For the lover that I lost”). About Céline, her way to incarnate those songs is obviously decisive. Her voice keeps on climbing the inaccessible tops to normal people, she makes the sounds walls trembled, but she amazes and seduces differently today: on songs like “The Chase”, “Boundaries” or the formidable “Nobody’s watching”, we have to hear her go down to the graves, and find cracks in her voice and have nuances that we didn’t hope for no more. The new Céline Dion is not arrived yet, but we love her yet.

Edited November 11, 2019 at 03:07 PM by noyau

[alexceline]

I would also have to agree with the suggestion of one of the reviewers that the order of the songs be rearranged to follow Celine's "stages of grief."

 

At its current order, the tracklist seems disarranged. She sings FOMO at the start and talks about FILA.. but then a few songs later sings about having enough of his abusive lover in LD. Stays sad in Courage. Then talks about falling in love again in The Chase. Then heartbreak again in LAUN. Then bids goodbye in PG.

 

I disagree with that because yeah theoritacally it would be a good idea as a narration thing, but melodically it wouldn't be cohesive at all. Half the album would be sad,dramatic,and slow, and the rest only uptempo happy songs. There needs to be a balance and that swtich of sounds. Do you imagine going to a show that is that unbalanced?

[Alice]

Beyond the big roads and the inevitable capitals, she will dare some detours. The Polish will applaud her in Lodz and Cracovia, she will sing also in Nicosia, the Cyprus capital, and also on the Malt island. It’s not a tour, it’s a geographic quiz.

 

We sure will!

[Xpresso]

Interesting that a few reviews say that there are too many songs. And La Presse says maybe Celine didn't get the memo on how people listen to music nowadays.

[Alice]

Interesting that a few reviews say that there are too many songs.

 

What a weird thing to say.

[alexceline]

Interesting that a few reviews say that there are too many songs. And La Presse says maybe Celine didn't get the memo on how people listen to music nowadays.

 

This totally confused me? Short songs are the thing nowadays. It's so streaming strategic so that people will keep repeating the songs and gain more streams. A long album is not that common, but in the same strategy the more the songs the more the streams, and the more equivalent copies for the album sold.

 

Edit. With a very quick research the long album format is quite common for the exact reasons named above. I hadn't even noticed how long some recent albums are...

Edited November 11, 2019 at 03:14 PM by alexceline

[zeopower6]

Often that is said if they feel a few tracks are filler-y. I think generally critics/listeners like a shorter album unless it is really executed 100% of the way which often isn't the case with longer album that go beyond an hour. However, I think with the penchant for ballads, it's hard to avoid a lengthy album since a lot of the 'hot tracks' nowdays are like 3-4 minutes max. Edited November 11, 2019 at 03:09 PM by zeopower6

[scielle]

This review also confirms that that lyrics in NW is indeed "party like a BELIEBER."

 

That's not a confirmation. That's just his hearing.

 

- most of them really hear James Bond in LND

 

I would hardly say "most". It's a mere two, by my count.

 

- and these reviews explain why Sony or TeamCeline chose Imperections as the radio/first single: because they are unanimous in saying Imperfections is one of the best if not the best song in the album. TeamCeline obviously got advance copies of their reviews or surveyed the critics after, and found out that the praise for Imperfections was unanimous.

 

Again, let's not generalize a handful to "unanimous".

 

[Xpresso]

I would also have to agree with the suggestion of one of the reviewers that the order of the songs be rearranged to follow Celine's "stages of grief."

 

At its current order, the tracklist seems disarranged. She sings FOMO at the start and talks about FILA.. but then a few songs later sings about having enough of his abusive lover in LD. Stays sad in Courage. Then talks about falling in love again in The Chase. Then heartbreak again in LAUN. Then bids goodbye in PG.

Just a slight nuance here... Actually Le Devoir doesn't really "suggest" to rearrange the songs. They say IF the songs would be rearranged, they could tell/show the different stages of her grief.

But obviously that would be too much to listen in that order in my opinion.

Edited November 11, 2019 at 03:14 PM by Xpresso

[zeopower6]

From a general perspective though, Imperfections is probably the 'slickest' and most casual listener friendly track of the album. It's always an issue I think when people who HATE something have to see people say good things about it.

[celinefan2011]

So I posted that album on twitter and tagged Walmart Canada. Got a response back this morning asking for which store location had the album out early. I DM’ed them and looks like they may look into it, possibly just telling them to put them back til the actual release date...

[CelineTheBest5]

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/celine-dion-courage-album-review-heartrending-uplifting/

[DionFanAlways]

 

 

That's not a confirmation. That's just his hearing.

Well my hearing must be as bad as mine because I hear belieBer, lol! And if it is belieber then all I can say is

Edited November 11, 2019 at 04:05 PM by DionFanAlways

[scielle]

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[AdrienneM]

Theyre all complaining about it being too long it seems

[CelinesDIVO5]

An extensive, song-by-song review from the French CBC:

https://ici.radio-ca...is-rene-angelil

 

And one from JDM / TVA:

https://www.journald...dose-de-courage

 

And La Press:

https://www.lapresse.ca/arts/musique/201911/10/01-5249182-courage-de-celine-dion-sans-reproche-.php

 

Also:

 

 

This pic!! Reminds me of FIY!

[Del]

Theyre all complaining about it being too long it seems

Quite a few of the articles said it would have had more impact had there been less songs. Yet all of us would have had a fit at a 12 song album. Lol

 

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[manu23]

Shania Twain was announced for the AMAs. Celine where are you?

[Alice]

Quite a few of the articles said it would have had more impact had there been less songs. Yet all of us would have had a fit at a 12 song album. Lol

 

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Oh, yeah. There'd be riots. It could even been even worse - Florence and the Machine's last two albums had 10 songs each.

[Javier_Natalio]

The USA Today review actually said something that had never crossed my mind, that Say Yes is a conversation with herself, which I found really interesting.

[bilinkew]

Slightly off topic but didn't think those of you in the UK would mind . . . https://www.smoothradio.com/win/celine-dion-hamper-tickets/ Bonne Chance! x

[marc-02]

Interesting that a few reviews say that there are too many songs. And La Presse says maybe Celine didn't get the memo on how people listen to music nowadays.

 

I think they are saying the same thing. La Presse is basically saying nowadays artists come out with albums with as little as 10 songs or less... And here comes Celine with the 90s trend of having 16 songs or above in an album. So basically all the reviews are saying Courage has too many songs.

Edited November 11, 2019 at 04:55 PM by marc-02

[scielle]

The USA Today review actually said something that had never crossed my mind, that Say Yes is a conversation with herself, which I found really interesting.

 

That was definitely my take-away from reading the lyrics.

[Ajax]

This almost unanimous opinion about the length of the album from the critics makes me again think of the gap between what hard core fans wants and the rest. This time Celine is in our side.

 

I can understand them though. Let s say 14 songs 😁

[marc-02]

 

 

That's not a confirmation. That's just his hearing.

 

 

 

I would hardly say "most". It's a mere two, by my count.

 

 

 

Again, let's not generalize a handful to "unanimous".

 

By "most" and "unanimous" I obviously mean based on this handful of reviews... Not aaallll reviews that have been made and have yet to be published. Of course my observation could still prove true or not as more reviews come in.

Edited November 11, 2019 at 05:04 PM by marc-02