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I loooove that Céline has added some runs - beginning of Ashes, ending of IACBTMN and even in MHWGO. That's what to me makes the performances special.

 

And all the complaining about nasality... where were you guys during the AND years? Go check out the live album and there's nasality for you.

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I loooove that Céline has added some runs - beginning of Ashes, ending of IACBTMN and even in MHWGO. That's what to me makes the performances special.

 

And all the complaining about nasality... where were you guys during the AND years? Go check out the live album and there's nasality for you.

 

i still can't believe they actually released that album. the greatest singer putting out a live album that sounded like that. oh wait a few years later they did it again with the taking chances world tour live album...

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You guys need to remember that Celine is getting old. She's not 25yo anymore.

Her voice will change no matter what.

 

In order to keep her voice in a perfect shape, she'll need to exercise so much harder than before, for more period of times, and she probably so tired to do that right now.

 

She's 50+, she got a family to take care of, her whole life is in her hands with no one to share... It would be so much effort that, in the end, wouldn't place her in a spot any better than she is today, career wise.

 

It's just not worth it.

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Her fans is her biggest critic. It's like Rene. Unless it's a death threat then, that's a different story.

 

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Do you guys not get tired of complaining about every little thing? She could do a thousand things right and some of you will fixate on something, anything, no matter how small, to criticize.

 

I'm not saying everything she does is perfect or that we can't voice some constructive criticism but when you have so many complaints about her it's surprising that you guys are even her fans.

 

"I don't like her hair, why is she dressed like that, why does she repeate the same story, why does she talk so much, why does she sing like that, why is she friends with Pepe, why doesn't sing this song, oh she shouldn't sing this song, I'm glad she sang this song but WHY did she it like that, why would she post that on social media instead of something else..."

 

The list goes on, and on, and on, and on.

 

The worst part about Celine being on hiatus isn't the lack of Celine but the reappearance of the negativity squad.

 

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Her fans is her biggest critic. It's like Rene. Unless it's a death threat then, that's a different story.

 

 

Depends on which fans you're referring to. The fans of the 90's-00's Celine or her current ones? Criticism is fine and more than welcome, but when we get to the point of insulting or dismissive comments and posts, it stops being either. It's ok to want some improvements here and there. It's not ok to want her to change and become another person (or her "old" self).

 

All i'm saying is you should realize and appreciate what you have now and live in this "now", because it will be too late in the end.

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Her fans is her biggest critic. It's like Rene. Unless it's a death threat then, that's a different story.

 

There's constructive criticism and then there's constant and repetative complaining which is what's mostly done here. Sometimes borderline insulting to her.

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Do you guys not get tired of complaining about every little thing? She could do a thousand things right and some of you will fixate on something, anything, no matter how small, to criticize.

 

I'm not saying everything she does is perfect or that we can't voice some constructive criticism but when you have so many complaints about her it's surprising that you guys are even her fans.

 

"I don't like her hair, why is she dressed like that, why does she repeate the same story, why does she talk so much, why does she sing like that, why is she friends with Pepe, why doesn't sing this song, oh she shouldn't sing this song, I'm glad she sang this song but WHY did she it like that, why would she post that on social media instead of something else..."

 

The list goes on, and on, and on, and on.

 

The worst part about Celine being on hiatus isn't the lack of Celine but the reappearance of the negativity squad.

 

I'm not happy to write some things related to her career, we're just like Rene, sharing our thoughts about aspects in her career, and from what I see everyone does it with love and much respect toward her. Constructive criticism is something very important, otherwise stagnation its own her way :)

"Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City Hall

Needed where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"

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What I find very interesting is that people find fault with everything and I mean everything she does or shows. And the complaining goes on, like my heart ,on and on and on.....

Please, I am not saying that she is perfect and that people don't have a right to voice their opinion. Of course they do ! But either they compare her to other people, which she isn't, or they compare her to younger Celine, which she isn't again. I think it's funny that people say she must do this, or her voice is wrong or not ok. I wonder , is that based on their great success and experience in the field? I mean Celine has been doing this since she was 12, and Rene , I am not even going to talk about the experience he had. Rene critcized her every day almost , but she always said that he knew when and how to do it. I have the feeling that sometimes people enjoy finding fault. I for one admire her, I may not agree with everything she does, but if she is happy , more power to her!

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Depends on which fans you're referring to. The fans of the 90's-00's Celine or her current ones? Criticism is fine and more than welcome, but when we get to the point of insulting or dismissive comments and posts, it stops being either. It's ok to want some improvements here and there. It's not ok to want her to change and become another person (or her "old" self).

 

All i'm saying is you should realize and appreciate what you have now and live in this "now", because it will be too late in the end.

 

All. Rene is also a fan. And he’s the biggest critic of Céline since he’s the manager and a fan too. We’ve been following her since 90’s so any changes that happens of course we fans can react whether it’s good or bad. It’s just sometimes i thought they’re going consistent. Because everything is perfect before. It’s like instead of improvements... it’s not. It’s like they’re moving backwards.

 

That’s what i’ve noticed. Again, we have different opinions. Even cirtics have negative say with what they’ve noticed. - it might challenged them to be better in the future.

 

I think also her team should make more effort in everything.

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There's constructive criticism and then there's constant and repetative complaining which is what's mostly done here. Sometimes borderline insulting to her.

 

Those repetitive complains can be gone if there’s changes happened. We can’t deny that some of those repetitive complains.. some wants that too and wants some improvements too.

 

Sorry, I’m not that kind of fan who is filtered that only good comments are needed. I think that’s even worse. I’ll say what I don’t want and I want with what i see and what i hear. I’m sure Céline wants that too. (oh i remember kara dioguardi during recording session) Aren’t we allowed to do that? :)

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Repeating something won't bring any change.

 

I keep repeating I want a million on my bank account... still waiting.

 

Especially since we are "nobody"... we read your opinion once and I think it's enough :-)

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Those repetitive complains can be gone if there's changes happened. We can't deny that some of those repetitive complains.. some wants that too and wants some improvements too.

 

Sorry, I'm not that kind of fan who is filtered that only good comments are needed. I think that's even worse. I'll say what I don't want and I want with what i see and what i hear. I'm sure Céline wants that too. (oh i remember kara dioguardi during recording session) Aren't we allowed to do that? :)

 

Just saying, I like reading you! I like when one can see the broader view of things.

"Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City Hall

Needed where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"

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Except no one here is like Rene because no one knows her personally, and he would never approach her the way some fans have talked about her. Do you think Rene would tell her she looks ridiculous or pathetic (actual words that came from fans) for wearing an outfit he didn't particularly like? Or tell her she isn't an artist just because she doesn't write her music? Or calling her lazy because at 40 years into her career she isn't maintaining the same schedule she did when she was younger, or disappointed in her because she's gained new interests other than music (as of she owes us anything). How about questioning her friendships as if we have any say in who she should have in her life or not?

 

That is not constructive.

 

I'm sorry to know some supporters wrote these awfull comments about her. Imo, as long as it's done with respect, it fine to share one's feelings if something feels not too fine with her. I truly believe it comes from a good place, and I tend believe that most of her supporters really wants the good for her.

"Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City Hall

Needed where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"

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Can we stop comparing ourselves to Rene already? or using his name as an excuse to give constant criticism of this kind?

You really believe that Celine's team comes here and reads what we write? Even if someone did come rarely, he would just leave after the first couple of pages. It's not as if anything new is being discussed anyway. They should already know by now. And if they don't, then they obviously don't come here, so you are just talking in vain, repeating the same complaints. Maybe try to say what you want through alternative media, or even better, try to get in touch with her actual team and people who know them, since some members here have connections.

 

What Maki said, was about people criticizing Celine as a person or neglect/fail to see the person behind the singer. When you say that she is lazy, not an artist, or not even a performer, that she is embarrassing, cringy, indiffirent etc, or don't accept the things that make her happy, like fashion or Pepe, and state what she should be doing instead, it's obvious that you don't see/care about Celine the person. There is nothing constractive in this type of criticism to challenge anyone. On the contrary, it just keeps people away from the forum, when the same few people keep criticizing the same things on the loop and keep finding new ones to complain about. Funny that those who can't stand Celine repeating herself, are those who repeat themselves the most..

 

YES THIS

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Can we stop comparing ourselves to Rene already? or using his name as an excuse to give constant criticism of this kind?

You really believe that Celine's team comes here and reads what we write? Even if someone did come rarely, he would just leave after the first couple of pages. It's not as if anything new is being discussed anyway. They should already know by now. And if they don't, then they obviously don't come here, so you are just talking in vain, repeating the same complaints. Maybe try to say what you want through alternative media, or even better, try to get in touch with her actual team and people who know them, since some members here have connections.

 

What Maki said, was about people criticizing Celine as a person or neglect/fail to see the person behind the singer. When you say that she is lazy, not an artist, or not even a performer, that she is embarrassing, cringy, indiffirent etc, or don't accept the things that make her happy, like fashion or Pepe, and state what she should be doing instead, it's obvious that you don't see/care about Celine the person. There is nothing constractive in this type of criticism to challenge anyone. On the contrary, it just keeps people away from the forum, when the same few people keep criticizing the same things on the loop and keep finding new ones to complain about. Funny that those who can't stand Celine repeating herself, are those who repeat themselves the most..

 

Agreed, thank you!

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Can we stop comparing ourselves to Rene already? or using his name as an excuse to give constant criticism of this kind?

You really believe that Celine's team comes here and reads what we write? Even if someone did come rarely, he would just leave after the first couple of pages. It's not as if anything new is being discussed anyway. They should already know by now. And if they don't, then they obviously don't come here, so you are just talking in vain, repeating the same complaints. Maybe try to say what you want through alternative media, or even better, try to get in touch with her actual team and people who know them, since some members here have connections.

 

What Maki said, was about people criticizing Celine as a person or neglect/fail to see the person behind the singer. When you say that she is lazy, not an artist, or not even a performer, that she is embarrassing, cringy, indiffirent etc, or don't accept the things that make her happy, like fashion or Pepe, and state what she should be doing instead, it's obvious that you don't see/care about Celine the person. There is nothing constractive in this type of criticism to challenge anyone. On the contrary, it just keeps people away from the forum, when the same few people keep criticizing the same things on the loop and keep finding new ones to complain about. Funny that those who can't stand Celine repeating herself, are those who repeat themselves the most..

 

Yes

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I loooove that Céline has added some runs - beginning of Ashes, ending of IACBTMN and even in MHWGO. That's what to me makes the performances special.

 

And all the complaining about nasality... where were you guys during the AND years? Go check out the live album and there's nasality for you.

 

celine has always sounded a bit nasal, but that is her voice!

Only time i really noticed is in the live cd from las vegas. I did not like it. But she still moves me, love her voice and maybe she should work on the English pronounciation, because i often cannot clearly hear the words she is singing,

But like you say - i love those extra runs in Ashes and in mhwgo and also love fomo.

 

 

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Can we stop comparing ourselves to Rene already? or using his name as an excuse to give constant criticism of this kind?

You really believe that Celine's team comes here and reads what we write? Even if someone did come rarely, he would just leave after the first couple of pages. It's not as if anything new is being discussed anyway. They should already know by now. And if they don't, then they obviously don't come here, so you are just talking in vain, repeating the same complaints. Maybe try to say what you want through alternative media, or even better, try to get in touch with her actual team and people who know them, since some members here have connections.

 

What Maki said, was about people criticizing Celine as a person or neglect/fail to see the person behind the singer. When you say that she is lazy, not an artist, or not even a performer, that she is embarrassing, cringy, indiffirent etc, or don't accept the things that make her happy, like fashion or Pepe, and state what she should be doing instead, it's obvious that you don't see/care about Celine the person. There is nothing constractive in this type of criticism to challenge anyone. On the contrary, it just keeps people away from the forum, when the same few people keep criticizing the same things on the loop and keep finding new ones to complain about. Funny that those who can't stand Celine repeating herself, are those who repeat themselves the most..

 

Comparing or not. It’s the same. Fans can give comments whether it’s good or bad. They need that to make them better. And I know céline likes that. She don’t want a filtered person around her. If you like to say something say it whether it’s a good comment or not unless you’re using bad words or death threats.

 

Repetitive complains are also good... maybe they’re really reading this forum. Taking notes from fans who can at least give ideas or to make them better to make them upgrade themselves instead of going backwards and.... the using of “nothing to prove anymore” excuses that may lead in the end a disappoint from fans. At least they can know what we want or what we don’t want.

 

I don’t believe with “nothing to prove anymore” then why make an album, make a new style of music? You can just go home and be with your family. Honestly, she still wants to be relevant and be in the music business for more years to come. It makes her happy too not just us.

 

Some are just trolls. (Fighting other members, bullying other members, etc.) Some are leaving because there’s nothing new. Haven’t you noticed when céline released FOMO and Carpool Karaoke more new fans are coming to this forum? Because there’s something new they see a different céline a new one not because of the complaints. Those complaints are natural for fans to say what they like or not that’s why we’re in this forum lol both good and bad comments really exists on forums.

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Practice makes perfect but then again nobody’s perfect so why practice? LOL
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Just saying, I like reading you! I like when one can see the broader view of things.

 

It’s because i once a filtered fan lol I don’t want to see negative comments about her that’s why before if i saw something negative posts about céline i automatically say ah this is a mimi fan lol then i’ll fight them. But now, some are right. Like Javi. It’s really annoying to see negative posts but in the end you agree because now you noticed/realized those complains are true. My top 1 complain is the production. I really hope they step up this time. I mean, she’s céline dion a legend. One of the richest people in the world then when it comes to the production it’s getting cheaper. It should be like A New Day like production. The best! Because she’s also known to give the best concert not just because of her voice but in everything. They’re moving backwards. I really like the production in A New Day-TCWT. Everything is perfect. The quality, visuals, stages and many more. I just thought they’ll be consistent or even more better. That’s why as a fan of Céline i want her to be the best. If she needs a new creative team or whatever team she needs that will make her even better on stage why not? She really needs a great manager to handle this things.

 

Anyways, i can’t wait for the next single. Maybe more new fans will go here. :)

 

Btw, it’s my first time seeing you here in this forum :)

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Comparing or not. It's the same. Fans can give comments whether it's good or bad. They need that to make them better. And I know céline likes that. She don't want a filtered person around her. If you like to say something say it whether it's a good comment or not unless you're using bad words or death threats.

 

Repetitive complains are also good... maybe they're really reading this forum. Taking notes from fans who can at least give ideas or to make them better to make them upgrade themselves instead of going backwards and.... the using of "nothing to prove anymore" excuses that may lead in the end a disappoint from fans. At least they can know what we want or what we don't want.

 

I don't believe with "nothing to prove anymore" then why make an album, make a new style of music? You can just go home and be with your family. Honestly, she still wants to be relevant and be in the music business for more years to come. It makes her happy too not just us.

 

Some are just trolls. (Fighting other members, bullying other members, etc.) Some are leaving because there's nothing new. Haven't you noticed when céline released FOMO and Carpool Karaoke more new fans are coming to this forum? Because there's something new they see a different céline a new one not because of the complaints. Those complaints are natural for fans to say what they like or not that's why we're in this forum lol both good and bad comments really exists on forums.

 

"Comparing or not. It’s the same" No it's not the same. If you think it's the same, you're a bit delusional. "And I know Celine likes that" Yes, i'm sure Celine loves her fans saying she acts/looks rediculous, embarassing, cringy, old, sick (...) and that she should focus on her job, which is to sing, instead of attending fashion shows with Pepe or making children clothes. She can't get enough of these comments. "She don’t want a filtered person around her" We are not around her.

 

Also dismissing her career and everything she is doing and she is, without using any "bad words or death threats" doesn't make it better.

 

I told you. Even if they are reading this forum, they have already read all they needed to read. You are saying the same things and give the same ideas, for years now. Either they don't care or don't agree. That's why i'm suggesting you find others means to get your message through. If you (and not just you) care so much, to the point you can't stop thinking what is bothering you on a daily basis, why don't you try a different approach? You're just doing the same thing everytime, expecting a different result.

 

"I don’t believe with “nothing to prove anymore” then why make an album, make a new style of music? You can just go home and be with your family."

Gonna pretend i never read the above. Also proves what i said about people failing or not caring to see Celine the person.

 

Members stop participating when Celine is on hiatus, because when there's nothing new about Celine, the same people start recycling their complaints (and constuctive criticisms), judging her like she owes them or something. When you start reading 1 good post and then 9 complaints, you kinda lose the desire to be here. Have you notice how many actual members this forum has and how many of them are active in general? Have you notice how rarely new members join and how many of them are real new fans of Celine and not just double accounts and old fans? Have you any idea what image this forum projects about Celine, to a real new fan? If you are a new follower of Celine and come to read what is being written here, you'll end up losing interest or even respect for her.

 

Anyway, again you're missing the point and you just answer the usuals. I don't wanna do this anymore.

Sometimes here it's like arguing with Airis Airis that Celine hasn't lost her voice because she is lipping the Mhwgo verse and that the length of her hair has no impact on her vocal abilities.

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"Comparing or not. It’s the same" No it's not the same. If you think it's the same, you're a bit delusional. "And I know Celine likes that" Yes, i'm sure Celine loves her fans saying she acts/looks rediculous, embarassing, cringy, old, sick (...) and that she should focus on her job, which is to sing, instead of attending fashion shows with Pepe or making children clothes. She can't get enough of these comments. "She don’t want a filtered person around her" We are not around her.

 

Also dismissing her career and everything she is doing and she is, without using any "bad words or death threats" doesn't make it better.

 

I told you. Even if they are reading this forum, they have already read all they needed to read. You are saying the same things and give the same ideas, for years now. Either they don't care or don't agree. That's why i'm suggesting you find others means to get your message through. If you (and not just you) care so much, to the point you can't stop thinking what is bothering you on a daily basis, why don't you try a different approach? You're just doing the same thing everytime, expecting a different result.

 

"I don’t believe with “nothing to prove anymore” then why make an album, make a new style of music? You can just go home and be with your family."

Gonna pretend i never read the above. Also proves what i said about people failing or not caring to see Celine the person.

 

Members stop participating when Celine is on hiatus, because when there's nothing new about Celine, the same people start recycling their complaints (and constuctive criticisms), judging her like she owes them or something. When you start reading 1 good post and then 9 complaints, you kinda lose the desire to be here. Have you notice how many actual members this forum has and how many of them are active in general? Have you notice how rarely new members join and how many of them are real new fans of Celine and not just double accounts and old fans? Have you any idea what image this forum projects about Celine, to a real new fan? If you are a new follower of Celine and come to read what is being written here, you'll end up losing interest or even respect for her.

 

Anyway, again you're missing the point and you just answer the usuals. I don't wanna do this anymore.

Sometimes here it's like arguing with Airis Airis that Celine hasn't lost her voice because she is lipping the Mhwgo verse and that the length of her hair has no impact on her vocal abilities.

 

Then, if you think it’s not then for you it’s not. That’s why we have different opinions. I have the right to say whatever i want to say about what i see and hear about Céline and her work since I’m a fan and I’ve been following her since i’m a little kid. So, obviously there’s a bad and good comments to say. Even if we’re not around her, we can still say what we want in this forum of what we like and we don’t like about Céline. Again negative comments are always present in forums. Negative comments are also good to have an opportunity to make changes to be better and might learn something as well.

 

I’m doing this on a daily basis? Really now? Please review all my comments again if all my posts are negative every time i post here.

 

People leave this forum because there’s nothing to talk about. Not because of the negative comments. You know why some leave this forum for good because of some members who are bully to other members, fighting other members).

 

I don’t know what kind of forum you’re reading on but I don’t see “daily” negative comments in this forum....

 

Why compare Airis Airis? LOL that dude is the real troll.

 

Again, you’re just a bit exagge saying negative comments are posted here in a daily basis lol

 

Anyways, you can just ignore everyone who post negative comments. Since you only like positive comments lol in real life you need it.

 

This forum is filtered. I guess not all posts are welcome only “positive”. Is that even a forum? LOL that’s worse. At least we’re just being honest. Céline likes real people who are not afraid to say what’s good and bad. :)

 

Well, from what I’ve noticed being here for so long in this forum.. i’m observing members here too. in the end you’ll end up agreeing to those negative comments and be disappointed as well if there’s still no improvements lol

 

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Whatever man, i'm done here. This is the new album topic and the past several pages have been a disaster already. I won't keep doing what i don't want others to do. If you honestly don't get what i'm saying and you want to discuss, send me a pm.

 

"in the end you’ll end agreeing to those negative comments.. lol" indeed hilarious.

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Whatever man, i'm done here. This is the new album topic and the past several pages have been a disaster already. I won't keep doing what i don't want others to do. If you honestly don't get what i'm saying and you want to discuss, send me a pm.

 

"in the end you’ll end agreeing to those negative comments.. lol" indeed hilarious.

 

Quite hilarious but it may happen. Trust me LOOOOL

 

OK Back to real topic or should i say back to filtered posts? LOL jk peace :)

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Remember this guys? Might want to re watch it. It’s a great song :)

 

“She’s that type of girl and i want that”.. it would be great if her songwriters now will be like Kara. Not being afraid to say the wrong things :)

 

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Then, if you think it's not then for you it's not. That's why we have different opinions. I have the right to say whatever i want to say about what i see and hear about Céline and her work since I'm a fan and I've been following her since i'm a little kid. So, obviously there's a bad and good comments to say. Even if we're not around her, we can still say what we want in this forum of what we like and we don't like about Céline. Again negative comments are always present in forums. Negative comments are also good to have an opportunity to make changes to be better and might learn something as well.

 

I'm doing this on a daily basis? Really now? Please review all my comments again if all my posts are negative every time i post here.

 

People leave this forum because there's nothing to talk about. Not because of the negative comments. You know why some leave this forum for good because of some members who are bully to other members, fighting other members).

 

I don't know what kind of forum you're reading on but I don't see "daily" negative comments in this forum....

 

Why compare Airis Airis? LOL that dude is the real troll.

 

Again, you're just a bit exagge saying negative comments are posted here in a daily basis lol

 

Anyways, you can just ignore everyone who post negative comments. Since you only like positive comments lol in real life you need it.

 

This forum is filtered. I guess not all posts are welcome only "positive". Is that even a forum? LOL that's worse. At least we're just being honest. Céline likes real people who are not afraid to say what's good and bad. :)

 

Well, from what I've noticed being here for so long in this forum.. i'm observing members here too. in the end you'll end up agreeing to those negative comments and be disappointed as well if there's still no improvements lol

 

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the thing is the repetition, no need to say the same thing again and again. Not all people are suffering from amnenesia and short term memory loss. . There should be a limit of times that someone can repeat his "opinion" . i'm forced to add new names to the ignore list because when i feel that someone has notting new to say or that this is a new incarnation of the same old, what is the benfit for me to read that and losing my time, You think you need to repeat the same drivel , but people are saying they are tired to read that. Is that a matter of expression or a lack of undersatnding?
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