"Courage" album - Official Topic

[ryba]

I remember that that some radio stations in Germany played YAI back in 2004. Also OH was played a lot on German radio in 2003 and 2004. That made me so happy Edited July 14, 2019 at 09:52 PM by ryba

[fred]

Or bad songs… that too happened since that time.

 

I consider ANDHC the real latest Céline album. Well produced, and mainly good songs. Some were pointing to the direction we've been heading since but most songs are good. And no folks that's not coz it was the latest album that "sounded like her", it's basically about quality. Taking Chances album was ok too, but just that.

 

Boycott??

 

The problem comes from a long time ago and it started in 2003 as we all know...

Edited July 14, 2019 at 09:58 PM by fred

[ryba]

I Surrender, Sorry for Love, Right in front of you and Ten days should have definitely been the following singles from that album, as well as Reveal and Naked from One Heart. These albums contain so much hit material! Edited July 14, 2019 at 09:56 PM by ryba

[maki_Dion-er]

Or radio stations just don't want to play Celine. They'll play anything popular new artists will send them without caring if a song is good or not. If Sony has sent her songs to US radio stations in the past and they won't play it what else is there left to do? I think many stations still have a big bias against her.

For instance, imo, Shallow isn't superior to Ashes but because it's attached to Gaga and was popular it was played.

 

Unless Celine gets a massive hit in streams I doubt she'll get any airtime on radio stations. In the US at least.

 

[CSCfan]

Guys, if it was only due to MHWGO-fatigue they wouldn't had played TTWIS and IDAN the way they did either.

 

Well it wasn't only 'MHWGO-fatigue', but it did play a big part. It wasn't just short term, it stretched throughout the '00's.

 

GBTSW killed her hit career according to me, and she hasn't been able to recover since.

 

I'm kinda sick and tired of the GTSW blame. Yes, it wasn't a good choice to release as a single, but it was hardly THE reason her "hit career" ended.

It was because of multiple factors, one of which was Vegas. I believe that no matter what single they released as the 3rd one... it wouldn't've have done as good as the previous ones... their focus was already on Vegas and OH. If she had done a normal tour supporting ANDHC it might have gone very different (and yes a song like IS would have done better). At the end of 2002 and the beginning of 2003, she was in a transition to her Vegas chapter. That - and her break - killed her "hit career" (if she had one) IMO. But in the end, it made her the queen/legend she is today.

Edited July 14, 2019 at 11:59 PM by CSCfan

[sarit_celine]

IDAN was her last big hit, because its production was amazing and after that it stopped, I have a lot what to write about it, but to make story short, her 3 last English albums lost depth and quailty, the problem isn't with Celine way of deliviering the song, the problem is simply not good songs, mainly melodics and some will say boring melodics.

[sarit_celine]

Just imagine Celine ignoring ANDHC and not promoting it?

Sounds like a nightmare ah? Ok, FOMO isn't an amazing song, personally I'm not hooked to it, but come on Celine keep ignoring it, can be the worst thing an artist can do even as for respecting supporters.

With that attitude toward the first single, I hope they won't delay the Album.

[fred]

That and lower quality when it comes to producing. A "this will do' attitude giving it all an almost sloppy impression.

 

IDAN was her last big hit, because its production was amazing and after that it stopped, I have a lot what to write about it, but to make story short, her 3 last English albums lost depth and quailty, the problem isn't with Celine way of deliviering the song, the problem is simply not good songs, mainly melodics and some will say boring melodics.

Edited July 15, 2019 at 12:55 AM by fred

[sarit_celine]

That and lower quality when it comes to producing. A "this will do' attitude giving it all an almost sloppy impression.

 

I deeply believe that acting so many years in LV, put her and her team in a kind of stagnation when it comes to producing amazing songs

because there she was all the time in such a comfortable zone, and they didn't really care what songs to record. Celine is not lazy at all, she is the best singer to ever walk this plaent so I hope her producing team/Sony will return already to reality and treat her the way she deserves as for her music career.

 

I wonder when the second single will be released

[Javito]

IDAN was her last big hit, because its production was amazing and after that it stopped, I have a lot what to write about it, but to make story short, her 3 last English albums lost depth and quailty, the problem isn't with Celine way of deliviering the song, the problem is simply not good songs, mainly melodics and some will say boring melodics.

 

And her (their) insistence on picking covers as singles to be sent to radios. With the Taking Chances album, they sent to radios not one but two consecutive covers as singles. As if it wasn't enough to present her first single in 4 years with a cover song, they sent also Alone next, and I think radios didn't forgive this faux-pas. Her lack of credibility when sending new songs to radios was decided then.

[PuraVida]

That and lower quality when it comes to producing. A "this will do' attitude giving it all an almost sloppy impression.

 

I find FOMO to be of bad production quality where the EDM background is concerned. It doesn’t have any edge to it that it otherwise would due to that production quality...

 

But yes, she hasn’t received or chosen good material...not all of it is her fault, though. But I just imagine her singing Sam Smith’s “Dancing With A Stranger” and totally killing it as a solo song. That is something I could hear her singing, and given the identical production, could be a hit...

 

But yes, my original point was not necessarily about hits, but how a remix of a Whitney Houston cover is doing better than current Celine...there’s obviously something wrong there.

Edited July 15, 2019 at 01:03 PM by PuraVida

[sailornic]

Flying on my own was dead on arrival. only 5 play for me... lately her voice is not the same and the songs are unfinished with not much lyrics inside. after 1m30 Flying on my own have nothing left.

[isurrender]

 

 

And her (their) insistence on picking covers as singles to be sent to radios. With the Taking Chances album, they sent to radios not one but two consecutive covers as singles. As if it wasn't enough to present her first single in 4 years with a cover song, they sent also Alone next, and I think radios didn't forgive this faux-pas. Her lack of credibility when sending new songs to radios was decided then.

 

Lol

 

It was done before off other albums. And even worse. "When I fall in love" and TPOL were very famous songs before Céline.

 

Taking Chances (the song) was released only in 1 country and the song was totally unknown.

 

The very worse if we consider this side of her discography : releasing IDAN ( which was also very famous) and then HYEBIL off OH but already present on her previous album.

 

 

Really TC and Alone is nothing compared to this.

[Javito]

I know, but back in 1993 she was still building a career in the English market and she wasn't that known for her "obsession" with recording covers, it was just a natural thing to combine original songs with some popular covers to get to be known by the public and get some quick attention.

 

With time, though, it only got worse

 

Yeah, TC must be the less known of her covers, probably the general public didn't know it wasn't an original song for her album. This could easily go unnoticed for the general listener, but definitely not for radio stations and music reviewers.

 

And yes, the 2003 strategy was totally stupid with HYEBIL. Guess it was going to be a single from the ANDHC since the start but if only they had included the Spanish version on the album instead :doh:

Edited July 15, 2019 at 05:33 PM by Javito

[Shaun]

I’m still looking forward to “Sorry For Love (2019 Version)”

 

[ryba]

Today I was listening to ANDHC and OH and I was paying particular attention to their production, and I must say that the production on these two albums is just flawless. Her vocals are so on point, the sound of each instrument is cristal clear and perfectly adjusted and everything blends together perfectly. These are my two absolutely favorite albums from her in every aspect. They payed attention to every single detail and sound. And you clearly notice that each album has a very clear vibe and direction, which cannot be said of LMBTL. Edited July 15, 2019 at 05:48 PM by ryba

[AdrienneM]

Today I was listening to ANDHC and OH and I was paying particular attention to their production, and I must say that the production on these two albums is just flawless. Her vocals are so on point, the sound of each instrument is cristal clear and perfectly adjusted and everything blends together perfectly. These are my two absolutely favorite albums from her in every aspect. They payed attention to every single detail and sound. And you clearly notice that each album has a very clear vibe and direction, which cannot be said of LMBTL.

 

imo if she had stuck with the vibes and productions of Breakaway, Somebody Loves Somebody and Didnt Know Love through the whole album, it wouldve been a great album

[Bruno Portugal]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzyqMx_lqGf/?igshid=wjn33wsat4zj

 

Hilarious!!!

 

😂

[sarit_celine]

And her (their) insistence on picking covers as singles to be sent to radios. With the Taking Chances album, they sent to radios not one but two consecutive covers as singles. As if it wasn't enough to present her first single in 4 years with a cover song, they sent also Alone next, and I think radios didn't forgive this faux-pas. Her lack of credibility when sending new songs to radios was decided then.

 

I love "Open arms", "RDMH", but yes, I think it's a moment to not to do any covers, at least in upcoming years.

 

Seeing how Sony treats her makes me believe she has uneasy issues with her company, they "gave up" on her. I'm not sure the media ingores her singles because of the poor quailty covers, but they sure don't give much attention to low quailty songs overall. They gave attention to ANDHC because it was amazing, simply as that. Let's hope things change with the new one, I can't stand the waiting for that.

[SuperLove4Celine]

yeah, they could revamp some of her early 90s songs for the tour. That would be cool!

 

(Regarding the early 90’s songs.) Songs such as: “(If There Was) Any Other Way,” “I Feel Too Much,” “Unison,” “Did You Give Enough Love,” “Little Bit Of Love,” and “Misled” could all work as great EDM compliments to “Flying On My Own” if treated with care and respect in regards to fresh, new arrangements.

[Xpresso]

For sure MHWGO has something to do with radios not playing Celine as much. That song was everywhere so many times a day. At first, it was great but then it was just too much and people were really annoyed with the song and Celine. And obviously the bigger the hit the more people made fun of Celine. She was a victim of her own success. That's also why she had to go away for a while... It was much too much.

 

After that, she got some support from radio but not as much as she did before and things started to slow down.

But now, it doesn't really matter if she gets radio support or not because she won't hit the single charts anymore due to streaming required to get a hit! Same with Madonna and Mariah. They got very little radio support and not enough streams. So that's where we are at. As long as her album sells, Sony will be happy and I'm pretty sure that's all they want.

Edited July 16, 2019 at 02:55 AM by Xpresso

[smw]

I’m still looking forward to “Sorry For Love (2019 Version)”

 

 

It’d be genius if she did this and I’d LOVE to read the comments here.

[ryba]

For sure MHWGO has something to do with radios not playing Celine as much. That song was everywhere so many times a day. At first, it was great but then it was just too much and people were really annoyed with the song and Celine. And obviously the bigger the hit the more people made fun of Celine. She was a victim of her own success. That's also why she had to go away for a while... It was much too much.

 

After that, she got some support from radio but not as much as she did before and things started to slow down.

But now, it doesn't really matter if she gets radio support or not because she won't hit the single charts anymore due to streaming required to get a hit! Same with Madonna and Mariah. They got very little radio support and not enough streams. So that's where we are at. As long as her album sells, Sony will be happy and I'm pretty sure that's all they want.

I love reading the comments about Celine being too much and too present in the 90s, because I was a kid and never realised that. For me she was the singer that was very respected and admired I never saw any negativity around her, but that was before there was internet and people had access to global sources of information, so I really appreciate this info. I also never got why Celine was made fun of, but now I understand. Edited July 16, 2019 at 06:51 AM by ryba

[VikingSwe]

 

 

Lol

 

It was done before off other albums. And even worse. "When I fall in love" and TPOL were very famous songs before Céline.

 

Taking Chances (the song) was released only in 1 country and the song was totally unknown.

 

The very worse if we consider this side of her discography : releasing IDAN ( which was also very famous) and then HYEBIL off OH but already present on her previous album.

 

 

Really TC and Alone is nothing compared to this.

 

Perhaps not a well known fact but the first single (at least in Europe) “Falling Into You” was also a cover song, originally released by Marie Clair D’Ubaldo

[sarit_celine]

https://www.instagra...id=wjn33wsat4zj

 

Hilarious!!!

 

 

:roflmao: :roflmao:

[sarit_celine]

I was expecting to read something new by Celine herself on the album but there wasn't nothing from her. I hope previous to the new album she will do a nice special on TV/Radio with some new songs.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/celine-dion-what-you-dont-know

[sarit_celine]

Hearing "Recovery" the way she sounds there is so much different from "Play me". On "Recovery" her voice is on top notch

and boy, feelings all over the song, I just love how well she sounds there. On "Play me" she got back to her heavy quebec accen

t, feelings is there as well! I know people that can't stand her accent, because then she sounds nasal too, to me it doesn't important so much, hearing "Play me" throw me right away to "OOR".

 

I wonder how it goes for her, that once she "hides" her accent while singing and on another song, quebec accent strikes lol.

[Nmj]

Hearing "Recovery" the way she sounds there is so much different from "Play me". On "Recovery" her voice is on top notch

and boy, feelings all over the song, I just love how well she sounds there. On "Play me" she got back to her heavy quebec accen

t, feelings is there as well! I know people that can't stand her accent, because then she sounds nasal too, to me it doesn't important so much, hearing "Play me" throw me right away to "OOR".

 

I wonder how it goes for her, that once she "hides" her accent while singing and on another song, quebec accent strikes lol.

 

It’s all the producer. Kara Diagourdi wouldn’t have no part of the accent lol. I actually like the Quebec accent... she should embrace the fact that English is her second language. As long as her voice is back with the reverb and no “bedroom” voice, I’ll take the little tiny Québécois touch!

[sarit_celine]

It’s all the producer. Kara Diagourdi wouldn’t have no part of the accent lol. I actually like the Quebec accent... she should embrace the fact that English is her second language. As long as her voice is back with the reverb and no “bedroom” voice, I’ll take the little tiny Québécois touch!

 

LOL "bedroom voice".. it was all in MHWGO her biggest hit. Honestly, I think that when she sounds with accent this is her natual singing voice, everything comes for her more easy while singing, just like in the concert in Hyde Park. I think this will be her voice from now and on lol.

[jpatdeleon09]

Her bedroom voice back in 2007 is much better than now. So, maybe someone from her team or a producer should tell her that she eliminate the bedroom voice because it’s not pleasing to the ears. Move on with Water and the Flame.

 

Anyways, since we have no new music video from Céline yet for her upcoming album. Here’s the new music video of Beyonce “Spirit” from the live action movie The Lion King

 

I’m just amazed with the visuals. I wish céline will go back with these kind of creativenessnessness. I feel like her cancelled MV of Eyes on Me is close to this