"Courage" album - Official Topic

February 23, 2019 at 01:07 AM

Jesus, this thread will get closed again. Take a pill Javito! :giggle:

And why do you use examples from 10 years ago? Things have changed a lot since!!

By the way, Thalia is no international superstar so you can't compare her being played on radio in local markets. It's like Celine being played in Quebec. Yes, at 50 she is played on the radio at home! And I bet she will still be played when she's 70!!

And radio isn't that important anymore anyway and that's why Celine still sells more than many of those artists who do get lots of radio play.

Edited February 23, 2019 at 01:09 AM by Xpresso

February 23, 2019 at 01:53 AM

Okay so lets see, at 50 we've had Madonna and Cher get big hits that got them on the radio, especially Madonna since she's the most recent case. Then who's to say it won't happen to Celine?

Fact is no one is arguing about Celine being able to get airplay on the radio. Ofc she should, but it's not in her power. That's the point. She could promote her new music day and night for a year straight but if radio stations don't want to play her songs they simply won't, especially if streaming for the songs isn't high. Mariah is an example, she promoted Caution a lot and yet her music didn't get on commercial radio.

Majority of radio stations are aiming for a young demographic so unless the music is pulling that desired demo, or it becomes a really big hit, they won't play it.

February 23, 2019 at 02:12 AM

Okay 2005 yes with her huge resurgence on Ray of Light but......... ray of light was the only thing that was played, however, i listened to the radio EVERY day, every morning with my mum from age 7 onward and not once do I remember Madonna on the radio. So no, not a complete lie try again

Madonna in 2008 was popular on YouTube due to the collaboration with Justin on 4 minutes, but it wasnt radio spammed. It was all over music Tv Charts.... not on radio

It was Confessions on the Dance Floor, not Ray of Light lol. And it wasn't only Hung Up, other songs like Jump were popular on both radios and tv.

In 2008 she had another hit, Give it 2 me, not only 4 Minutes ft Timberlake. And then Celebration as Javito said.

February 23, 2019 at 02:47 AM

I'm giving up about radio airplay, all I want is a great album, because let's be honest, a hit doesn't mean it's great. But a great album, I can enjoy for the rest of my life. Many album I bought because it's a hit in their era, but I couldn't and I don't want to play it anymore because it so shitty.

February 23, 2019 at 04:26 AM

I'm giving up about radio airplay, all I want is a great album, because let's be honest, a hit doesn't mean it's great. But a great album, I can enjoy for the rest of my life. Many album I bought because it's a hit in their era, but I couldn't and I don't want to play it anymore because it so shitty.

Nothing wrong with a great hit with a few “hits”, cough cough, “ Falling Into You”

February 23, 2019 at 04:28 AM

It was Confessions on the Dance Floor, not Ray of Light lol. And it wasn't only Hung Up, other songs like Jump were popular on both radios and tv.

In 2008 she had another hit, Give it 2 me, not only 4 Minutes ft Timberlake. And then Celebration as Javito said.

Even Mariah Carey had a late hit album with “Emancipation of Mimi”; at least I consider it one.

I think “We Belong Together” is one of her best all time songs.

February 23, 2019 at 09:14 AM

I'm in love with all your FACTS... I want mine too ...

FACT: Celine is not on the radios (by the way.. who cares... ) because even if she is great, admit she is not interesting for what the general mass media wants to sell... SCANDAL. Celine lives in a world of kindness with ponys, rainbows and love for all the parents and children of the world. Radios, tv, newspapers, society in general wants basically sex, drugs, nightlife, heartbreaking dramas, ups and downs, recoveries... they want MEAT for hungry sad audiences... GOODNESS IS BORING.

Don't want to be mean but: Media focus peak on Celine in last 5 years; Rene's DEATH (#Drama, #recovering, #cancer) and fashion estravaganzza (media doesn't focus just because she is elegant, just because she is ungenualy BRAVE choosing weird outfits)

Why Madonna? She is on the desperate and eternal search of a new Scandal... that's why lately she is missed, she is disconnected from the new public, there's no way this old lady can shock new generations

Why Jlo or Thalia? SEX.. SEX SEX.. LATIN SEX REGGAETON EVEN BETTER

and it goes and goes... FACTS!!!

February 23, 2019 at 09:19 AM

2005 Ray Of Light?? LOL, the album was Confessions On A Dancefloor

4 Minutes wasn't radio spammed?????? Jesus, it was #1 in the UK too, on BBC radio no less, among others!

4 Minutes is the UK #1

Sunday, 20 April 2008

Madonna's 4 Minutes has made it to #1 on the official UK Singles Chart. This is fantastic news, giving Madonna her 13th UK #1 and was based on download sales alone. With the physical CD single being released tomorrow, sales should continue to increase - check out the chart at www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles
4 Minutes stays #1 in the UK charts

Sunday, 27 April 2008

For the second week running Madonna's 4 Minutes is the UK's #1 single!
Check out the full chart at www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles

https://madonnalicio...ious/4_minutes/

Have you been living under a rock by then?? Oh wait, you were 7 years old :doh:

2008 I was 8 but okay, you cant count.

And no, Ray of Light had a resurgence in 2005. The song itself became highly popular again after parodies on various TV SHOWS. Hung Up became popular in almost every part of Europe.... but hardly anywhere else lol.

And i dont know if you realise, that in 2008 in the UK, the singles chart (which was a tv show lol) was based on radio airplay and airplay from music tv shows based on audience pool, along with digital sales, Which was my point initially but okay.

But again youre arguing a failing case, and btw, just incase you forgot; Jennifer Lopez isnt over 50....... oops lol

Not to mention Jennifer herself hasnt been on radio consistently since Get on The floor...

February 23, 2019 at 09:21 AM

It was Confessions on the Dance Floor, not Ray of Light lol. And it wasn't only Hung Up, other songs like Jump were popular on both radios and tv.

In 2008 she had another hit, Give it 2 me, not only 4 Minutes ft Timberlake. And then Celebration as Javito said.

2005 Ray of Light had its resurgence but okay, yall are dumb

And yes, it was only hung up lol.

And nope.... her last jolt of popularity was with Timberlake on 4 minutes....

February 23, 2019 at 10:35 AM

I don't understand why you people keep comparing apples with oranges. How can you compare artists like Madonna and J.Lo with Celine just based on the year they were borned? Their music is miles appart. And not just their music...

Ofc a dancy pop song will always have more chances of being airplayed. Most stations focus on 15 to maybe 35 yo audience and the younger the audiences are, the more upbeat tempo songs they want.

Also, why you keep comparing things that happened 10 and 15 years ago with the current state of music business? I remember listening to Celine's songs on the radio here in Greece during my younger days. I'm Alive, ANDHC, IDAN, LMBTL and even EUS were on the radio. Did i listen more of Madonna during all these years? Sure. But just because it was more radio friendly and popular. Do i listen to any of them now? Well i did listen to Ashes few times. But nowadays radios, at least in my country, who play english music, focus on younger and really popular artists/songs and whatever is HOT. Something can be hot for 2 weeks and then in the garbage.

Thing is that times have changed. The business has changed, the audience has changed, new music genres have appeared, other ways of accessing new music songs and artists are available and for years now we are living in a world of "fast-food" entertainment. Just stop comparing these two decades.

Finally, i don't know what the issue of each of you is, if it's that Celine doesn't care, or Sony doesn't care, or the whole music industry doesn't care, or the people are ashamed of admitting they like Celine or whatever else i read. Fact is that Celine still sells, still has views and sold-out concerts and still makes new music. And all of that without the promo some of you would like. She doesn't need such promo. She just exists and sells.

February 23, 2019 at 11:15 AM

Jesus, this thread will get closed again. Take a pill Javito!
And why do you use examples from 10 years ago? Things have changed a lot since!!

By the way, Thalia is no international superstar so you can't compare her being played on radio in local markets. It's like Celine being played in Quebec. Yes, at 50 she is played on the radio at home! And I bet she will still be played when she's 70!!
And radio isn't that important anymore anyway and that's why Celine still sells more than many of those artists who do get lots of radio play.

I'm not using just examples of 10 years ago, I'm using two names that are receiving massive airplay these days with their singles in 2018 and 2019, but you keep ignoring this.

And when Madonna releases her new single, I bet she will be played again, at her 60s. Just wait and see.

Thalía is a star in the Spanish-speaking/Latin market, which covers up like more than 50% of the music that is played on radios worldwide for your information, so chances are that her new single is played on most radios that play Spanish music around the world at some point, since it's one of the hottest songs in the Spanish language right now.

In any case your point was to dismiss the fact that nobody is played on radios in their 50s, and I proved you wrong enough with several cases that ARE played well and loud on radios at age of 50, so... you're welcome :giggle:

2008 I was 8 but okay, you cant count.

And no, Ray of Light had a resurgence in 2005. The song itself became highly popular again after parodies on various TV SHOWS. Hung Up became popular in almost every part of Europe.... but hardly anywhere else lol.

And i dont know if you realise, that in 2008 in the UK, the singles chart (which was a tv show lol) was based on radio airplay and airplay from music tv shows based on audience pool, along with digital sales, Which was my point initially but okay.

But again youre arguing a failing case, and btw, just incase you forgot; Jennifer Lopez isnt over 50....... oops lol

Not to mention Jennifer herself hasnt been on radio consistently since Get on The floor...

JLo's hits iin the UK -your country- go well beyond 2011 and Get On The Floor, but okay :doh: :laugh:

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/jennifer-lopezs-official-biggest-songs-in-the-uk-revealed__15657/

2005 Ray of Light had its resurgence but okay, yall are dumb

And yes, it was only hung up lol.

And nope.... her last jolt of popularity was with Timberlake on 4 minutes....

No YOU are the only dumb one here, blundering your posts with wrong and inaccurate statements due to your extreme arrogance, and then you try to deviate your "points" with another piece of info trying to disregard your own constant blunders. And then insult us, the cherry on the cake to your arrogance :rolleyes:

Just grow up boy. Read some more of the things you were merely a child when they happened (or not even born). And then try to post your statements with some more care and research, because they're full of blunders that show your ignorance on the matter time and again.

February 23, 2019 at 11:22 AM

I don't understand why you people keep comparing apples with oranges. How can you compare artists like Madonna and J.Lo with Celine just based on the year they were borned? Their music is miles appart. And not just their music...
Ofc a dancy pop song will always have more chances of being airplayed. Most stations focus on 15 to maybe 35 yo audience and the younger the audiences are, the more upbeat tempo songs they want.

Also, why you keep comparing things that happened 10 and 15 years ago with the current state of music business? I remember listening to Celine's songs on the radio here in Greece during my younger days. I'm Alive, ANDHC, IDAN, LMBTL and even EUS were on the radio. Did i listen more of Madonna during all these years? Sure. But just because it was more radio friendly and popular. Do i listen to any of them now? Well i did listen to Ashes few times. But nowadays radios, at least in my country, who play english music, focus on younger and really popular artists/songs and whatever is HOT. Something can be hot for 2 weeks and then in the garbage.

Thing is that times have changed. The business has changed, the audience has changed, new music genres have appeared, other ways of accessing new music songs and artists are available and for years now we are living in a world of "fast-food" entertainment. Just stop comparing these two decades.

Finally, i don't know what the issue of each of you is, if it's that Celine doesn't care, or Sony doesn't care, or the whole music industry doesn't care, or the people are ashamed of admitting they like Celine or whatever else i read. Fact is that Celine still sells, still has views and sold-out concerts and still makes new music. And all of that without the promo some of you would like. She doesn't need such promo. She just exists and sells.

well said

maybe the big radio days are over for celine, but she still sells incredibly well with new music, all around the world, she still has sold out concerts... and so on. And a strong worldwide fanbase

let´s just wait for the new album Edited February 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM by ordinary fan

February 23, 2019 at 12:12 PM

And when Madonna releases her new single, I bet she will be played again, at her 60s. Just wait and see.

Year 2015

In the United Kingdom, BBC Radio 1 decided not to play Madonna's single as their playlist committee did not think the track was good enough for heavy airplay. According to their head of music, George Ergatoudis, Madonna's fans were older than station's target demographic.

JLo's hits iin the UK -your country- go well beyond 2011 and Get On The Floor, but okay
https://www.official...evealed__15657/

Year 2013

The first single, "Loved Me Back to Life" was released on 3 September 2013. In Canada, "Loved Me Back to Life" landed the Hot Shot Debut on the Canadian Hot 100, coming in at number twenty-six. It became Dion's best debut to date on the chart and her second best peak on the list, only behind 2007's "Taking Chances".^[27] In the United Kingdom, "Loved Me Back to Life" reached number fourteen becoming Dion's highest charting single since "A New Day Has Come" got to number seven in 2002.

So Celine has actually charted higher than JLo in UK after 2011.

I know you like Pink, so trust her on this

P!nk On Ageism In Music: ‘Radio Doesn’t Play Girls Over 35…Unless You’re Beyonce’

https://thatgrapejui...-youre-beyonce/

Anyway I'm not here to refute the same wrong arguments. But if I felt so strongly about this as you do, instead of coming here to write the same thing again and again I'd actually focus that energy and determination on writing to radio stations, encouraging them to play Celine. You can make a difference!

Edited February 23, 2019 at 12:28 PM by manu23

February 23, 2019 at 02:10 PM

I'm not using just examples of 10 years ago, I'm using two names that are receiving massive airplay these days with their singles in 2018 and 2019, but you keep ignoring this.

And when Madonna releases her new single, I bet she will be played again, at her 60s. Just wait and see.

Thalía is a star in the Spanish-speaking/Latin market, which covers up like more than 50% of the music that is played on radios worldwide for your information, so chances are that her new single is played on most radios that play Spanish music around the world at some point, since it's one of the hottest songs in the Spanish language right now.

In any case your point was to dismiss the fact that nobody is played on radios in their 50s, and I proved you wrong enough with several cases that ARE played well and loud on radios at age of 50, so... you're welcome

JLo's hits iin the UK -your country- go well beyond 2011 and Get On The Floor, but okay
https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/jennifer-lopezs-official-biggest-songs-in-the-uk-revealed__15657/

No YOU are the only dumb one here, blundering your posts with wrong and inaccurate statements due to your extreme arrogance, and then you try to deviate your "points" with another piece of info trying to disregard your own constant blunders. And then insult us, the cherry on the cake to your arrogance

Just grow up boy. Read some more of the things you were merely a child when they happened (or not even born). And then try to post your statements with some more care and research, because they're full of blunders that show your ignorance on the matter time and again.

How many times has it been expressed that im not male :innocent:

And just because you were 45 when Celine released ANDHC doesnt mean youre more educated than anyone else. A basic google search can tell me more accurate and more general knowledge than your word of mouth and personal opinions which 90% of the time are not backed up by fact, rather your opinion.

If you didnt focus on simply the same 3 topics over and over maybe you wouldnt come off as such a bitter old queen, let alone someone who has ever been more than “civil” to anyone

February 23, 2019 at 02:11 PM

Year 2015

Year 2013

So Celine has actually charted higher than JLo in UK after 2011.

I know you like Pink, so trust her on this

https://thatgrapejui...-youre-beyonce/

Anyway I'm not here to refute the same wrong arguments. But if I felt so strongly about this as you do, instead of coming here to write the same thing again and again I'd actually focus that energy and determination on writing to radio stations, encouraging them to play Celine. You can make a difference!

Exactly but being a bitter old queen in their mid thirties with the temperament of a 14 year old blinds Javito from actually researching these things

February 23, 2019 at 02:31 PM

How many times has it been expressed that im not male

And just because you were 45 when Celine released ANDHC doesnt mean youre more educated than anyone else. A basic google search can tell me more accurate and more general knowledge than your word of mouth and personal opinions which 90% of the time are not backed up by fact, rather your opinion.

If you didnt focus on simply the same 3 topics over and over maybe you wouldnt come off as such a bitter old queen, let alone someone who has ever been more than "civil" to anyone

LOL 45 when ANDHC was released!!! :laugh: :mdr: Oh my personal opinions! Not backed up by fact! You mean when I refute every arrogant garbage you post here off your sleeve with links and contrastable information proving how silly and wrong you are again and again, unlike you who vomit the first thing that crosses your mind, showing you have no idea what you're talking about??

Don't lose your tempers, kid. I still remember the day you said Laura Pausini was a nobody singer without a career :laugh:

Edited February 23, 2019 at 02:37 PM by Javito

February 23, 2019 at 02:34 PM

Year 2015

Year 2013

So Celine has actually charted higher than JLo in UK after 2011.

I know you like Pink, so trust her on this

https://thatgrapejui...-youre-beyonce/

Anyway I'm not here to refute the same wrong arguments. But if I felt so strongly about this as you do, instead of coming here to write the same thing again and again I'd actually focus that energy and determination on writing to radio stations, encouraging them to play Celine. You can make a difference!

I don't deny who charts higher than who, I just say and affirm time and again that there are singers and it's still possible to be played on radios at 50, and Céline hasn't been played anywhere since she was 35 (but for the French markets). That's all.

Same as there are actors and actresses who get the prime of their careers and most recognition when they're entering their 60s and 70s, also that can happen in music.

Edited February 23, 2019 at 02:36 PM by Javito

February 23, 2019 at 02:44 PM

Close the THREAD

Shut the TOPIC away

All the fight's gone from this wounded heart

Across the floor

Dreams and shadows play

Like wind blown refugees

call ADMIN

Who deals in love beyond repair

He can heal the world

Of hearts in need of care

(Shine) shine a light ahead

When the next step is unclear

Call ADMIN

He's needed here

February 23, 2019 at 03:11 PM

2008 I was 8 but okay, you cant count.

And no, Ray of Light had a resurgence in 2005. The song itself became highly popular again after parodies on various TV SHOWS. Hung Up became popular in almost every part of Europe.... but hardly anywhere else lol.

And i dont know if you realise, that in 2008 in the UK, the singles chart (which was a tv show lol) was based on radio airplay and airplay from music tv shows based on audience pool, along with digital sales, Which was my point initially but okay.

But again youre arguing a failing case, and btw, just incase you forgot; Jennifer Lopez isnt over 50....... oops lol

Not to mention Jennifer herself hasnt been on radio consistently since Get on The floor...

I love how you know everything, despite your young age and basing your facts on your own vast experiences and those of your inner circle. :wub2:

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February 23, 2019 at 03:25 PM

This! Thank you!! ^^

But who are a bunch of bitter old fans to say anything, when we have an 18 year old kid who knows absolutely in detail everything that happened when he wasn't even born and above all, who backs up everything with proof and links? :hmm: :-D :giggle:

And just because you were 45 when Celine released ANDHC doesnt mean youre more educated than anyone else. A basic google search can tell me more accurate and more general knowledge than your word of mouth and personal opinions which 90% of the time are not backed up by fact, rather your opinion.

Then USE it. Because so far you have proved absolutely not to do so when posting in this forum! I bet you haven’t even turned on a radio in your life, to affirm the things you say lol :laugh:

Edited February 23, 2019 at 03:30 PM by Javito

February 23, 2019 at 03:32 PM

I hope there’s at least one unique and “bizarre” track on the album. Think “Refuse To Dance,” “Rain, Tax (It’s Inevitable),” and “Love By Another Name.”

February 23, 2019 at 07:44 PM

LOL 45 when ANDHC was released!!! Oh my personal opinions! Not backed up by fact! You mean when I refute every arrogant garbage you post here off your sleeve with links and contrastable information proving how silly and wrong you are again and again, unlike you who vomit the first thing that crosses your mind, showing you have no idea what you're talking about??

Don't lose your tempers, kid. I still remember the day you said Laura Pausini was a nobody singer without a career

Sorry to say but Laura Pausini is a nobody in showbiz terms..... oops

February 23, 2019 at 08:08 PM

I don’t think radio play or comparison with other female artists is in any way related to how we feel about her new album. Unless, that is, the majority of her fans want her to emulate other artists on the radio. I personally do not. I want a return to the ANDHC and OH era of upbeat pop and soaring ballads, not some garbage trap music. Edited February 23, 2019 at 08:09 PM by Chantemoi

February 23, 2019 at 09:41 PM

Topic closed. Again.

March 29, 2019 at 01:33 PM

Céline Dion Informatiepunt

13 Min ·

NEWS: a while ago, Céline announced that Sia had written 3 songs for her. There has been no update on that, until now....

Recently, a new song called "Baby" was registered, citing Sia and Greg Kurstin as its songwriters and Céline as its performer.

Will the song appear on the new album? Will it be the new single? Stay tuned to find out!

#celinedion #newalbum #itscoming

Edited March 29, 2019 at 01:36 PM by ryba

March 29, 2019 at 02:18 PM

Céline Dion Informatiepunt

13 Min ·

NEWS: a while ago, Céline announced that Sia had written 3 songs for her. There has been no update on that, until now....
Recently, a new song called "Baby" was registered, citing Sia and Greg Kurstin as its songwriters and Céline as its performer.
Will the song appear on the new album? Will it be the new single? Stay tuned to find out!

#celinedion #newalbum #itscoming

Where can we see that?

March 29, 2019 at 02:41 PM

Céline Dion Informatiepunt

13 Min ·

NEWS: a while ago, Céline announced that Sia had written 3 songs for her. There has been no update on that, until now....
Recently, a new song called "Baby" was registered, citing Sia and Greg Kurstin as its songwriters and Céline as its performer.
Will the song appear on the new album? Will it be the new single? Stay tuned to find out!

#celinedion #newalbum #itscoming

Thank you for the info

I hope we can keep this thread clean from any other subject

March 29, 2019 at 02:58 PM

Yay!! Let’s see how long it takes for a few members to shut this down again..... :angry: Lol!

Interesting title though, “Baby”

March 29, 2019 at 03:02 PM

Yay!! Let’s see how long it takes for a few members to shut this down again..... Lol!

Interesting title though, “Baby”

I wish we could just see the track list with the songwriters lol.

Call me crazy but for me one of the most exciting parts of a new album is looking at the names of each song and who wrote them and try to predict in my head what the song will sound like, like tempo/lyrics etc.

March 29, 2019 at 03:03 PM

Interesting title though, "Baby"

Pretty awful IMHO

(But I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.)

Her constant insistence of interjecting "baby" into every lyric is why I can't handle listening to so much of her English music...sooooo tacky.

I think it was a thing she use to do in the early 90's to "Americanize"... and just never grew out of it, even long after it's "best before" date!

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