Javito Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:06 PM Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:06 PM That's what I think In Taking Chances, even the covers are great, Taking Chances and Alone very well produced and it fits the album that the woman in me, right next to the right one, new down so many cover songs but its fine, they are great, but the new ones are better This Time, Fade Away, Shadow of Love, My Love, Cant fight the feelin, nothin left and a song for you even the Bonus track The Reason I Go On and Map to my heart and there comes a time there is at least a coherent sound in the album, doesn't sounds so dated as LMBTL I love the Taking Chances album too, and I agree that in this case, even the covers are good ones, and wisely chosen for this project. The album flows perfectly and it has a coherent sound throughout it, and I really appreciate that on a music album. I only dislike A Song For You (because it breaks the flow of the album too much and it's extremely boring and slow) and I Got Nothing Left, obviously because of what they did to her voice. But other than these 2 songs, the rest of the album, even the 2 bonustracks, are top quality to me I actually think it's beautifully written. I just wish they hadn't pitched her voice. I still enjoy it though. Exactly. They ruined the song with that high pitched voice they used Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
celine4evauk Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:13 PM Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:13 PM Must admit i got bored of the TC album far more quickly than any other english album. 3 Quote
Javito Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:15 PM Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:15 PM Must admit i got bored of the TC album far more quickly than any other english album. That happened to me too! Not because it was bad, but probably because it wasn't what I was expecting at the moment. But I think it was because the wait for her next English album seemed like an eternity (6 yers), that I learnt to appreciate it with time 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
LukeD Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:25 PM Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:25 PM (edited) Must admit i got bored of the TC album far more quickly than any other english album.Same. Up to this day it is the album that makes it the hardest for me to see Celine in it. It was such a mixed bag going from soft rock to gospel, then dance and jazz/blues. I cannot even see her in the album cover. And I think the lyrics were all over the place in the sense that it captured many different attitudes. I would have prefered Map To My Heart and The Reason I Go On in the standard Edition, replacing the random covers New Dawn and Right Next To The Right One. Along with Unison and probably Miracle it is the album that I like the least. I put it miles away from LTAL, ANDHC, TCOML. Edited November 12, 2016 at 08:27 PM by LukeD 3 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:45 PM Posted November 12, 2016 at 08:45 PM I actually think it's beautifully written. I just wish they hadn't pitched her voice. I still enjoy it though.Me too. The lyrics are great but why oh why do that to her voice. She has asked to play with her voice from time to time tho, maybe she wanted it that way. Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
celinesounds Posted November 12, 2016 at 09:19 PM Author Posted November 12, 2016 at 09:19 PM (edited) I got nothing is very radio friendly, i prefer this one instance of incredible, so popy the hook stays in the head, love it, i'm waiting for a live version i love to a song for you - one of my favorites, its like fado music Here is my top English album, that i listen more frequently i know it's off topic, just speaking about new English album direction 1. One Heart2. Taking Chances3. Falling into you3. A New day has come3. Unison4. The color of my love4. Lets talk about love4. Love me back to live5. Celine Dion6. Miracle7. All the way8. collectors series volume 1 Edited November 12, 2016 at 09:25 PM by celinesounds Quote #FREEJAVITO
flutefreak Posted November 12, 2016 at 11:14 PM Posted November 12, 2016 at 11:14 PM That happened to me too! Not because it was bad, but probably because it wasn't what I was expecting at the moment. But I think it was because the wait for her next English album seemed like an eternity (6 yers), that I learnt to appreciate it with time This is exactly what happened to me with TC. Listened a couple of weeks put it on the shelf, waited a few years and somewhere around 2010-2011 really learned to appreciate it. I actually quite like most of it now, at first not so much. Definitely a grower for me. 1 Quote
Taking Chances Posted November 14, 2016 at 05:36 PM Posted November 14, 2016 at 05:36 PM (edited) Many good points there. I too agree, my favourite albums by any artist are the ones where the songs are all different but have the same feel to them. It'seems hard to describe, perhaps a similar set of instruments or just the fact that the same team worked on the whole album. A couple of albums I could mention are Tina Arena's 'Eleven', or Roch Voisine's 'Confiances'. You can tell by all her English albums except for the compilation albums and Loved Me Back To Life that they kind of have the same vibe to them. Maybe Taking Chances is a little on the edge too, but still way better production than LMBTL. Actually LMBTL has good production on some songs, but not others. And the strangest things is, the worst songs have the best production. All of them should be produced equally, but strangely that didn't happen. The only albums to me that lack the same production value is Unison and Celine Dion. The only difference is that the good songs have great production and the "fillers" and rest of the songs kind of lack that. Complete opposite from LMBTL. That's what I think In Taking Chances, even the covers are great, Taking Chances and Alone very well produced and it fits the album that the woman in me, right next to the right one, new down so many cover songs but its fine, they are great, but the new ones are better This Time, Fade Away, Shadow of Love, My Love, Cant fight the feelin, nothin left and a song for you even the Bonus track The Reason I Go On and Map to my heart and there comes a time there is at least a coherent sound in the album, doesn't sounds so dated as LMBTL I do enjoy some covers, as long as they are done better than the original. And I usually think she accomplishes this. As soon as Celine does a cover of something I tend to only listen to her version and become biased because I don't what to listen to the original. However, I do like original songs so much more. I wish she would release and album with only original songs. I especially think that Map To My Heart should have been included in the standard version of TC. It's such a great song, much better than A Song For You, This Time and Right Next To The Right One. The Reason I Go On is also much better than these songs, so it should have been on the standard version. Some covers have become "her" songs, and I love them, but if they became a lesser version of the original I prefer she didn't do them. For instance, I don't like Open Arms very much, it's way too cheesy and too short. It's like it's super rushed. Perfect for a bonus track, but nothing more. I also don't like the studio cover of The Show Must Go On, but it annoys me so much that her live version is a million times better. I almost can't even listen to the studio version. I actually think it's beautifully written. I just wish they hadn't pitched her voice. I still enjoy it though. I think I Got Nothing Left is great, but it's a good example of where production failed. It could have been the greatest song on the album if they didn't pitch her voice and changed the production. I would love to hear this song live. It would be so interesting to hear what it would have sounded like. I mean, if done right - it could have been a new I Surrender. Edited November 14, 2016 at 05:38 PM by Taking Chances 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted November 14, 2016 at 05:42 PM Posted November 14, 2016 at 05:42 PM You can tell by all her English albums except for the compilation albums and Loved Me Back To Life that they kind of have the same vibe to them. Maybe Taking Chances is a little on the edge too, but still way better production than LMBTL. Actually LMBTL has good production on some songs, but not others. And the strangest things is, the worst songs have the best production. All of them should be produced equally, but strangely that didn't happen. The only albums to me that lack the same production value is Unison and Celine Dion. The only difference is that the good songs have great production and the "fillers" and rest of the songs kind of lack that. Complete opposite from LMBTL. I do enjoy some covers, as long as they are done better than the original. And I usually think she accomplishes this. As soon as Celine does a cover of something I tend to only listen to her version and become biased because I don't what to listen to the original. However, I do like original songs so much more. I wish she would release and album with only original songs. I especially think that Map To My Heart should have been included in the standard version of TC. It's such a great song, much better than A Song For You, This Time and Right Next To The Right One. The Reason I Go On is also much better than these songs, so it should have been on the standard version. Some covers have become "her" songs, and I love them, but if they became a lesser version of the original I prefer she didn't do them. For instance, I don't like Open Arms very much, it's way too cheesy and too short. It's like it's super rushed. Perfect for a bonus track, but nothing more. I also don't like the studio cover of The Show Must Go On, but it annoys me so much that her live version is a million times better. I almost can't even listen to the studio version. I think I Got Nothing Left is great, but it's a good example of where production failed. It could have been the greatest song on the album if they didn't pitch her voice and changed the production. I would love to hear this song live. It would be so interesting to hear what it would have sounded like. I mean, if done right - it could have been a new I Surrender. I LOVE "This Time." I think the production matches the mood of the song. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Taking Chances Posted November 14, 2016 at 05:48 PM Posted November 14, 2016 at 05:48 PM I LOVE "This Time." I think the production matches the mood of the song. I disagree, I feel as though the production is lacking on this song, it's not horrible, but not great. It's also one of my two least favorite songs on the album. Along with A Song For You. Though I feel like that song has better production. 2 Quote
Daysleeper Posted November 14, 2016 at 06:19 PM Posted November 14, 2016 at 06:19 PM Can someone who considers certain albums being badly produced explain me what exactly he/she means by that. Any example? What is wrong with, for example, with LMBTL and right with TCOML or FIY. I'm not saying I disagree wuth you, I am just curious. Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted November 14, 2016 at 07:44 PM Posted November 14, 2016 at 07:44 PM (edited) I disagree, I feel as though the production is lacking on this song, it's not horrible, but not great. It's also one of my two least favorite songs on the album. Along with A Song For You. Though I feel like that song has better production. I disagree! This Time is one of my favourites P Kev x Edited November 14, 2016 at 07:45 PM by Peppercorn1991 Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted November 14, 2016 at 07:59 PM Posted November 14, 2016 at 07:59 PM Can someone who considers certain albums being badly produced explain me what exactly he/she means by that. Any example? What is wrong with, for example, with LMBTL and right with TCOML or FIY. I'm not saying I disagree wuth you, I am just curious. I don't know if it's the same thing for everyone .... But for me LMBTL and SA lacked something and I now believe this to be, because Humberto didn't work on those two albums. When she came back with EUS .. It felt again like a Celine album... This may just be me but i think he puts a nice finish to her voice... LMBTL was more choppy at the end of her notes for me....I did enjoy the album though ... For example on Breakaway I couldn't hear that flare in her voice.... yes she had some great notes and it's a decent song but I don't think that they captured her voice quite the same as Humberto... Something was lost in her voice... EUS sounds amazing for me and back how it used to sound... Kev x 3 Quote
dodobird Posted November 14, 2016 at 08:08 PM Posted November 14, 2016 at 08:08 PM Ok I have an absolutely crazy suggestion to make...why don't WE write a song for her?I'm not very good with lyrics but if there's one thing I can do in this life is write a darn melody. So who's up for the challenge? I don't think there are many artists out there who can say "my fans wrote this for me"?! It will be a collective effort...I don't mean me writing a song with someone else...I mean all of us pitching in. I mean I'm sure we have producers and mixing engineers and guitar players and good singers here and I can help with melody, arranging, producing etc...whatever is needed. Now I'm going to crawl back into my little corner and wait for the bashing to come... 3 Quote
LukeD Posted November 15, 2016 at 01:01 PM Posted November 15, 2016 at 01:01 PM (edited) Ok I have an absolutely crazy suggestion to make...why don't WE write a song for her?I'm not very good with lyrics but if there's one thing I can do in this life is write a darn melody. So who's up for the challenge? I don't think there are many artists out there who can say "my fans wrote this for me"?! It will be a collective effort...I don't mean me writing a song with someone else...I mean all of us pitching in. I mean I'm sure we have producers and mixing engineers and guitar players and good singers here and I can help with melody, arranging, producing etc...whatever is needed. Now I'm going to crawl back into my little corner and wait for the bashing to come...I think this is a romantic thought and I understand where you're coming from. However, I find the execution of such an idea will be very hard. And for many reasons. But I wish you the best of luck! I cannot take part cause I have no songwriting talent whatsoever. Edited November 15, 2016 at 01:02 PM by LukeD 2 Quote
Taking Chances Posted November 15, 2016 at 02:52 PM Posted November 15, 2016 at 02:52 PM (edited) Can someone who considers certain albums being badly produced explain me what exactly he/she means by that. Any example? What is wrong with, for example, with LMBTL and right with TCOML or FIY. I'm not saying I disagree wuth you, I am just curious. The production of an album is the entire work process of making an album. Sound mixing, cutting, editing, polishing, mastering, writing, planning and assembling. A lot of work goes into this process and it's just as important as the recording of the songs. There's also pre-production which basically is the planning phase and that is equally important. In this phase they make all the arrangements, visions and preparations. It can be a lot of stuff, from choosing the microphone to deciding which track order and analysing if the tracks all go together. Also, this is just my opinion, I don't mean to lecture anyone or tell them that what they think is wrong. This is simply what I think. Which album is your favorite Celine album? We can take Loved Me Back To Life and Falling Into You for comparison. There's a few things to compare. First of all, we're not in the 90's anymore, so we can't expect Celine to sound the same or expect the songs to be the same. Times change, but the difference is production of the albums for their time. But back in the 90's, Celine had just began her English career and she was surrounded by music producers who brought out the best in her. She was pushed because she needed to be pushed to achieve greatness. She did. Today though, there's a different story. She is very established and she doesn't release mind blowing albums anymore. It takes years between them and they lack the same quality as her earlier albums. Again, things change. She's older, she's a mother, and we can't expect the same rapid release of new music. However, when she actually does release new music, she can do better than Loved Me Back To Life. So back to Falling Into You. The instruments sets the complete vibe of the album. You got saxophone, violin, Spanish guitar, cavaquinho and string arrangement to name a few. Production is the part where it's carefully placed and tweaked to enhance the song to make it perfect. It's not enough to just have instruments there, you need to know what to do with them. Sure, Loved Me Back To Life has great instruments too, but you can tell that it's under produced. (And some overproduced) It's almost like a finished written book, they just skipped the editor part and released it before checking for spelling mistakes. Another example is Breakaway. One of my favourites on the album. However, it could have been much better. One easy thing they could have done is make her voice sound a little further away and removed her breathing from whenever she's gonna sing the next sentence. This is something you can't find on Falling Into You, or almost any other album of hers. Breakaway sound very raw, a quality that I like, almost like the songs on Taking Chances, yet not quite because of small things they didn't bother fixing. Another example with Loved Me Back To Life that makes it completely rushed and feels unfinished is the last half of the album. It's starts off great and then it just slows down and kind of become boring. This doesn't happen with Falling Into You (or almost any other album) they keep the same pace all the way through and you can tell that the last songs aren't obviously fillers. The songs are assembled better on Falling Into You, they have an easy transition and they work well all the way through the album. This isn't the case with Loved Me Back To Life. I know it's unfair to compare Falling Into You to Loved Me Back To Life, but Falling Into You has good production, and it's easy to see why. I'm not comparing the music in general to each other, just the production. At least with Taking Chances she said that she was "taking chances" or "risks". I think she played it pretty safe, but some of the songs are a little different. With Loved Me Back To Life it didn't have any direction at all. It started as a "Vegas cover album" and changed as the production of the album started. It was supposed to be called "Water And A Flame" because they discovered a song she liked. That was only one song, and then it changed again when Sia came along and wrote Loved Me Back To Life. That is three changes to one album that didn't have any direction. What I want for Celine's next album is an album with good production and a clear direction. Someone with vision, someone that can make her become who she is. She can still bring it, she can still sing. There are amazing music producers out there who can make a killer Celine Dion album. Edited November 15, 2016 at 02:52 PM by Taking Chances 2 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted November 15, 2016 at 03:05 PM Posted November 15, 2016 at 03:05 PM (edited) Her recent released albums From Sans Attendre up to now. Her voice is so direct, raw, dry, forward - Maybe that's the modern sound? Her voice is so much louder than her previous ones. It's not blending with the music. Before, her voice blends with the music. Compare her previous albums to now. I have a video that celine saying about her voice in her LMBTL Album. I like the old one where there is reverb, blends with the music, resonance... because if they continue with the modern sound where celine sounds dry, forward - when belting it kinda hurts my ears because it's too dry and forward. It's great if they edit her voice like it blends with the music. One example is the Loved Me Back To Life - Sia's version, her voice blends with the music while Celine's version, her voice sounds more too forward. - In Ma Faille also her voice is too forward much louder than the music. full video -- it's in 1:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji6Mm7S1c6s Edited November 15, 2016 at 03:17 PM by jpatdeleon09 3 Quote
dodobird Posted November 15, 2016 at 10:47 PM Posted November 15, 2016 at 10:47 PM I think this is a romantic thought and I understand where you're coming from. However, I find the execution of such an idea will be very hard. And for many reasons. But I wish you the best of luck! I cannot take part cause I have no songwriting talent whatsoever. Haha! Nobody said it will be easy But it will be an interesting challenge and like I said, it would fantastic if it's a group effort. We would of course all need to put our egos aside and do something as a team but since I saw so many people complaining about the songs Celine is singing the past few years (I'm referring to her English repertoire) I thought it we could do something to change this. I'm crazy, I'll tell you that. No idea is too big or too crazy for me but I just thought I'd throw this out there and see if anyone is interested 1 Quote
browseceline Posted November 15, 2016 at 11:47 PM Posted November 15, 2016 at 11:47 PM Her recent released albums From Sans Attendre up to now. Her voice is so direct, raw, dry, forward - Maybe that's the modern sound? Her voice is so much louder than her previous ones. It's not blending with the music. Before, her voice blends with the music. Compare her previous albums to now. I have a video that celine saying about her voice in her LMBTL Album. I like the old one where there is reverb, blends with the music, resonance... because if they continue with the modern sound where celine sounds dry, forward - when belting it kinda hurts my ears because it's too dry and forward. It's great if they edit her voice like it blends with the music. One example is the Loved Me Back To Life - Sia's version, her voice blends with the music while Celine's version, her voice sounds more too forward. - In Ma Faille also her voice is too forward much louder than the music. full video -- it's in 1:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji6Mm7S1c6sVery good! Yes that is what i noticed too. Too dry voice less reverb and not good blending with the music at all Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G901F met Tapatalk 1 Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Bóól'át'í Posted November 16, 2016 at 01:21 AM Posted November 16, 2016 at 01:21 AM Ok I have an absolutely crazy suggestion to make...why don't WE write a song for her?I'm not very good with lyrics but if there's one thing I can do in this life is write a darn melody. So who's up for the challenge? I don't think there are many artists out there who can say "my fans wrote this for me"?! It will be a collective effort...I don't mean me writing a song with someone else...I mean all of us pitching in. I mean I'm sure we have producers and mixing engineers and guitar players and good singers here and I can help with melody, arranging, producing etc...whatever is needed. Now I'm going to crawl back into my little corner and wait for the bashing to come... Any song submission by fans wouldn't even be considered. Celine's team will probably return the song unopened and unheard. You have to be a member of ASCAP, BMG or any other music 'union' for acceptance of any song for legal reasons. There's just too many hurdles to overcome for any fan to submit a song to their favorite singer to record. In short, it'll never happen. Quote
dodobird Posted November 16, 2016 at 01:48 AM Posted November 16, 2016 at 01:48 AM Any song submission by fans wouldn't even be considered. Celine's team will probably return the song unopened and unheard. You have to be a member of ASCAP, BMG or any other music 'union' for acceptance of any song for legal reasons. There's just too many hurdles to overcome for any fan to submit a song to their favorite singer to record. In short, it'll never happen. Thank you for all this although I have to correct some inaccuracies. ASCAP And BMI (not BMG) are not unions, they are simply organizations that deal with royalties and copyright. Being a member of either ensures that you as a creator get your dues when and if an original work of yours is performed publicly. You are correct in assuming that artists don't accept unsolicited material because it's a legal minefield. But who said anything about writing a song that Celine would record?? I simply suggested writing something for her as a gift and just for the fun of it. I'm reading so many people's opinions on what Celine should be singing or what the next songs should sound like so I thought why don't we create something out of this? It will be fun and quite often, when there many creative minds involved...that's when magic happens. But again, just to make this clear, I was not suggesting to write a song with commercial purpose. I am very well aware of the intricacies of the music business in that respect and being a member of BMI myself, I can tell you that it would be a nightmare to register a song with so many different writers! My idea simply stems from the fact that she has sung quite a few songs FOR her fans so why not have her fans write something for HER for a change? Not for her to record it but simply as a thank you. As I said before, I'm quirky and a weirdo Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted November 16, 2016 at 04:34 PM Posted November 16, 2016 at 04:34 PM Very good! Yes that is what i noticed too. Too dry voice less reverb and not good blending with the music at all Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G901F met Tapatalk And i hope no auto tune this time. Encore un soir is great. Who produced it? Her voice blends with the music unlike other songs of her in that album especially Ma Faille everytime she belts there i lower down the volume coz it's too loud it really doesn't blends with the music. Last album that her voice really blends with the music is Taking Chances and D'elles. Who is the mixing engineer in that album? That should be the one to edit Quote
CelineDionFreak Posted November 16, 2016 at 04:39 PM Posted November 16, 2016 at 04:39 PM And i hope no auto tune this time. Encore un soir is great. Who produced it? Her voice blends with the music unlike other songs of her in that album especially Ma Faille everytime she belts there i lower down the volume coz it's too loud it really doesn't blends with the music. Last album that her voice really blends with the music is Taking Chances and D'elles. Who is the mixing engineer in that album? That should be the one to editHumberto Gatica and Scott produced it. They are both amazing! 1 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
comingback Posted November 16, 2016 at 06:31 PM Posted November 16, 2016 at 06:31 PM (edited) Her recent released albums From Sans Attendre up to now. Her voice is so direct, raw, dry, forward - Maybe that's the modern sound? Her voice is so much louder than her previous ones. It's not blending with the music. Before, her voice blends with the music. Compare her previous albums to now. I have a video that celine saying about her voice in her LMBTL Album. I like the old one where there is reverb, blends with the music, resonance... because if they continue with the modern sound where celine sounds dry, forward - when belting it kinda hurts my ears because it's too dry and forward. It's great if they edit her voice like it blends with the music. One example is the Loved Me Back To Life - Sia's version, her voice blends with the music while Celine's version, her voice sounds more too forward. - In Ma Faille also her voice is too forward much louder than the music. full video -- it's in 1:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji6Mm7S1c6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gFYmF5LDss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5KuRXtjeE Yes, the production of Sia's version is better (her voice harmonizes with the sound), Celine's voice is too shrill. Edited November 16, 2016 at 06:36 PM by comingback Quote
celinesounds Posted November 16, 2016 at 08:24 PM Author Posted November 16, 2016 at 08:24 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gFYmF5LDss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5KuRXtjeE Yes, the production of Sia's version is better (her voice harmonizes with the sound), Celine's voice is too shrill. Sia uses vocal-coder to her voice fit the melody Quote #FREEJAVITO
pat200 Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:05 PM Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:05 PM (edited) can we have a mashup of the 2 singers singing the song? like what someone did with power of love and river deep scractch that, they are not in the same key Edited November 16, 2016 at 10:06 PM by pat200 Quote
smw Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:39 PM Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:39 PM I am definitely ready for some 90s style Celine to come back to her English repertoire. It's what made her an Icon. And it's what the majority of fans still want today. The 90s are back and Celine was the Queen of the 90s! So let's embrace that and get another fabulous album! 3 Quote
CelineDionFreak Posted November 17, 2016 at 12:02 AM Posted November 17, 2016 at 12:02 AM (edited) There's a photo I just saw on Instagram in the studio and they mentioned Céline and mastering something. I'm not sure who it is in the photo... I wonder if it's something with the English album?https://instagram.com/p/BM4hw_iBSty/ Edited November 17, 2016 at 12:03 AM by CelineDionFreak Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
dodobird Posted November 17, 2016 at 01:13 AM Posted November 17, 2016 at 01:13 AM The production of an album is the entire work process of making an album. Sound mixing, cutting, editing, polishing, mastering, writing, planning and assembling. A lot of work goes into this process and it's just as important as the recording of the songs. There's also pre-production which basically is the planning phase and that is equally important. In this phase they make all the arrangements, visions and preparations. It can be a lot of stuff, from choosing the microphone to deciding which track order and analysing if the tracks all go together. Also, this is just my opinion, I don't mean to lecture anyone or tell them that what they think is wrong. This is simply what I think. Which album is your favorite Celine album? We can take Loved Me Back To Life and Falling Into You for comparison. There's a few things to compare. First of all, we're not in the 90's anymore, so we can't expect Celine to sound the same or expect the songs to be the same. Times change, but the difference is production of the albums for their time. But back in the 90's, Celine had just began her English career and she was surrounded by music producers who brought out the best in her. She was pushed because she needed to be pushed to achieve greatness. She did. Today though, there's a different story. She is very established and she doesn't release mind blowing albums anymore. It takes years between them and they lack the same quality as her earlier albums. Again, things change. She's older, she's a mother, and we can't expect the same rapid release of new music. However, when she actually does release new music, she can do better than Loved Me Back To Life. So back to Falling Into You. The instruments sets the complete vibe of the album. You got saxophone, violin, Spanish guitar, cavaquinho and string arrangement to name a few. Production is the part where it's carefully placed and tweaked to enhance the song to make it perfect. It's not enough to just have instruments there, you need to know what to do with them. Sure, Loved Me Back To Life has great instruments too, but you can tell that it's under produced. (And some overproduced) It's almost like a finished written book, they just skipped the editor part and released it before checking for spelling mistakes. Another example is Breakaway. One of my favourites on the album. However, it could have been much better. One easy thing they could have done is make her voice sound a little further away and removed her breathing from whenever she's gonna sing the next sentence. This is something you can't find on Falling Into You, or almost any other album of hers. Breakaway sound very raw, a quality that I like, almost like the songs on Taking Chances, yet not quite because of small things they didn't bother fixing. Another example with Loved Me Back To Life that makes it completely rushed and feels unfinished is the last half of the album. It's starts off great and then it just slows down and kind of become boring. This doesn't happen with Falling Into You (or almost any other album) they keep the same pace all the way through and you can tell that the last songs aren't obviously fillers. The songs are assembled better on Falling Into You, they have an easy transition and they work well all the way through the album. This isn't the case with Loved Me Back To Life. I know it's unfair to compare Falling Into You to Loved Me Back To Life, but Falling Into You has good production, and it's easy to see why. I'm not comparing the music in general to each other, just the production. At least with Taking Chances she said that she was "taking chances" or "risks". I think she played it pretty safe, but some of the songs are a little different. With Loved Me Back To Life it didn't have any direction at all. It started as a "Vegas cover album" and changed as the production of the album started. It was supposed to be called "Water And A Flame" because they discovered a song she liked. That was only one song, and then it changed again when Sia came along and wrote Loved Me Back To Life. That is three changes to one album that didn't have any direction. What I want for Celine's next album is an album with good production and a clear direction. Someone with vision, someone that can make her become who she is. She can still bring it, she can still sing. There are amazing music producers out there who can make a killer Celine Dion album. I can't say that LMBTL is a badly produced album but I do agree that it lacked direction. Taking Chances was the last one with a clear direction....she was exploring a rock-ier sound (which I loved by the way) and the album was cohesive and coherent. LMBTL wasn't. It does have some songs that are real gems (even covers....I LOVE her interpretation of At Seventeen) but it's not a cohesive album...it's more like a selections album. I agree with everyone who said that they miss an album with a clear direction (something that her French Albums do seem to have even to this day). And I'd certainly LOVE to see her sing some new power ballads. I recently rediscovered Je T'Aime Encore and I fell in love with the song all over again. And boy when she sang it this summer with the emotions of a 48 year old woman who's been through all that she went through the past few years?? PURE MAGIC. she might have been vocally perfect in the nineties but the maturity and emotion she brings to her songs now is unparalleled. She always had passion but now it's like it's tripled...it's deeper, more solid and much more mesmerizing. On the other hand, I can understand that she wants to evolve as an artist and explore new directions. But I'm hoping that she will come full circle at some point and (having explored other styles) she will approach ballads and powerful songs from another perspective. And oh boy I can't wait for that to happen. The problem is, however, that people don't seem to be writing power ballads any more. It's all rhythmic and full of electronic influences because otherwise it's not "cool"... (power) ballads are considered cheesy by the newer generations (something which I completely disagree with). 2 Quote
flutefreak Posted November 17, 2016 at 01:48 AM Posted November 17, 2016 at 01:48 AM There's a photo I just saw on Instagram in the studio and they mentioned Céline and mastering something. I'm not sure who it is in the photo... I wonder if it's something with the English album?https://instagram.com/p/BM4hw_iBSty/ I saw that too... 1 Quote
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