"Courage" album - Official Topic

[HushNow]

I love Breakaway, i just regret for the bad production, that song should be revisited by David Foster to give a decent production

 

Why is it a bad production IYO?

[Unisono]

 

 

I love Breakaway, i just regret for the bad production, that song should be revisited by David Foster to give a decent production

 

What do you think is wrong in Breakaway?

[Peppercorn1991]

 

 

I love Breakaway, i just regret for the bad production, that song should be revisited by David Foster to give a decent production

 

I love the song breakaway and I did when I first heard the song before Celine recorded it. I was disappointed in the production of celines version too....

 

Kev x

Edited October 21, 2016 at 01:40 PM by Peppercorn1991

[LukeD]

I was disappointed that Celine made a note-to-note copy of the original. She added nothing to Breakaway. Her voice was also edited, came off very thin and high!

[Thinktwicefan]

Would love a duet with either the killers or Brandon Flowers (they're from Vegas) or Eminem. How could radio not play such duets!!!

[jpatdeleon09]

I hope they don't overproduce celine vocals in her upcoming english album. I like her voice in Taking Chances and D'elles so natural. No autotune or whatsoever.

[Javito]

LMBTL was a rushed album in every way. It was almost disgusting to see the recording sessions, how everyone was like in a hurry as if they wanted to do the work as soon as possible and get rid of the damn song, except for the main single. But for the rest of the songs we got to see, it was painful. There was barely any excitement in the producers, perhaps only with SLS they really felt like their time with Celine was a magic moment.

 

However, TC sessions were absolutely the contrary to LMBTL. All the time that was needed was spent to record this album. She spent time in the recording studio with all the producers, to record the song as they wanted it to be. She spent time allowing each and every songwriter to explain her the songs. No rush here, she had a great time and lots of fun recording this album, and this shows when you listen the record

 

Wish those days where Céline dedicated the time it was needed to record an album came back, like with TC, ANDHC etc. Today it feels as if their feet burn when they step in the recording studio

Edited October 21, 2016 at 07:06 PM by Javito

[pat200]

TC making of album featured some amazing live vocals actually recorded during the sessions unlike LMBTL which barely had a total of 10 seconds of live vocals from the sessions. I do not know why probably because the raw vocals of Celine were a bit tired like is evident in SLS which has amazing polishing done to the final product.

[CelinesDIVO5]

LMBTL was a rushed album in every way. It was almost disgusting to see the recording sessions, how everyone was like in a hurry as if they wanted to do the work as soon as possible and get rid of the damn song, except for the main single. But for the rest of the songs we got to see, it was painful. There was barely any excitement in the producers, perhaps only with SLS they really felt like their time with Celine was a magic moment.

 

However, TC sessions were absolutely the contrary to LMBTL. All the time that was needed was spent to record this album. She spent time in the recording studio with all the producers, to record the song as they wanted it to be. She spent time allowing each and every songwriter to explain her the songs. No rush here, she had a great time and lots of fun recording this album, and this shows when you listen the record

 

Wish those days where Céline dedicated the time it was needed to record an album came back, like with TC, ANDHC etc. Today it feels as if their feet burn when they step in the recording studio

 

 

They also edited all of those session videos to be between 3-5 minutes. They cut a lot out.

[Caledor]

I hope they don't overproduce celine vocals in her upcoming english album. I like her voice in Taking Chances and D'elles so natural. No autotune or whatsoever.

 

Totally agree. I like the fact that TC was "rough" and natural.

[Angel2006]

My ultimate list right now is a duets album.

 

I know alot of people argue that it puts Celine in a category of "old lady", but Celine is good at duets and truly seems to enjoy them. Celine could totally do a duets album, while still making it young and fresh.

 

If she picks artists who are current, but also wouldn't be a strange fit alongside Celine, like Adele, Carrie Underwood, Kieza, Jessie J. Mixed with timeless artists, like Michael Bolton, Seal, Sarah Brightman, and Gennette Reno.

 

This kind of an album for Celine could have the potential to be really good, if she chooses a good amount of well known, current artists and mixes in a few of the classic oldies we all know Celine loves so much.

 

RC and the twins could even be a part of it, if they wanted to. RC seems to like getting involved in things more and more and he sure seemed to like being James Bond in the Celine show a few years back.

 

My other wish is for another Christmas album, so why not put the two together. A Celine Christmas duets album!

 

In my opinion, Celine needs to do something like this right now. Something fun and uplifting. Being in the studio with all different artists, I know Celine would have so much fun. Celine could even do a duet with her brothers and sisters again. She always has so much fun when she brings her family into the studio.

 

This could also be a chance for Celine to work with any artists that she really wants to work with, but hasn't had a chance to sing with yet, like Adele and Sia. I think it would also get alot of media attention.

[Caledor]

My ultimate list right now is a duets album.

 

I know alot of people argue that it puts Celine in a category of "old lady", but Celine is good at duets and truly seems to enjoy them. Celine could totally do a duets album, while still making it young and fresh.

 

If she picks artists who are current, but also wouldn't be a strange fit alongside Celine, like Adele, Carrie Underwood, Kieza, Jessie J. Mixed with timeless artists, like Michael Bolton, Seal, Sarah Brightman, and Gennette Reno.

 

 

I like your idea for a duet with Seal ! But I don't forget my dream: a duet with Phil Collins!

Edited October 21, 2016 at 09:15 PM by Caledor

[Angel2006]

I like your idea for a duet with Seal ! But I don't forget my dream: a duet with Phil Collins!

 

 

Oh, Phil Collins would be cool aswell!

 

There are so many possibilities when it comes to a duets album, so many artists to choose from. I think it would be awesome. I really hope Celine does something like this, next year or the year after that. It has to be a Christmas duets album though, because I have been wanting Celine to make another Christmas album for years now and I'm getting impatient. LOL.

[mirage]

What's the point of recording an English album, when you never ever gonna perform at least 10 songs of it?!

 

Anyway I would love to hear an acoustic/orchestral/piano version of LMBTL. Don't understand why they don't take any risks.

 

Hope that lyrically the songs have a bit more depth. And a great mix of uptempo, slow songs, ballads.

[Javito]

They also edited all of those session videos to be between 3-5 minutes. They cut a lot out.

 

I know. Of course they did, otherwise we would have gotten like 10+ hours of footage since she likely spent an average of half an hour if not most recording each song and with each producer/songwriter in the studio.

 

And we only got to see 8 songs out of 18. But I'm thankful they released that DVD with the making of the album. It's one of the greatest sessions captured on video we ever had. She was on fire on every song

 

What's the point of recording an English album, when you never ever gonna perform at least 10 songs of it?!

 

But hasn't been that the pattern they've followd since ages ago? She barely performs less than half the album she records now And most of the times, we only have one lucky playback performance of the songs that are not selected as singles.

 

However, she feels at ease having performed 1,000 times MHWGO or BYLM in Vegas

Edited October 21, 2016 at 10:50 PM by Javito

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I know. Of course they did, otherwise we would have gotten like 10+ hours of footage since she likely spent an average of half an hour if not most recording each song and with each producer/songwriter in the studio.

 

And we only got to see 8 songs out of 18. But I'm thankful they released that DVD with the making of the album. It's one of the greatest sessions captured on video we ever had. She was on fire on every song

 

 

 

But hasn't been that the pattern they've followd since ages ago? She barely performs less than half the album she records now And most of the times, we only have one lucky playback performance of the songs that are not selected as singles.

 

However, she feels at ease having performed 1,000 times MHWGO or BYLM in Vegas

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I know. Of course they did, otherwise we would have gotten like 10+ hours of footage since she likely spent an average of half an hour if not most recording each song and with each producer/songwriter in the studio.

 

And we only got to see 8 songs out of 18. But I'm thankful they released that DVD with the making of the album. It's one of the greatest sessions captured on video we ever had. She was on fire on every song

 

 

 

I meant the LMBTL sessions. They cut so much out and that's why they aren't as exciting as say, the LTAL sessions. Those videos were definitely more lengthy and in depth of production and recording. I would love to see extended versions of the Eg White sessions from LMBTL.

[rhapsodion]

Duet album isn't really what I want Celine to do, but I could totally see her doing a duets with the death (Halloween edition).

[browseceline]

I would love if Sia wrote a song that is much different then what Sia is known for. I'd love a song with a soft first verse, chorus, and a second verse that slowly builds up to a bombastic chorus that dies back down. I think a song that shows off what she can do, but not an entirely shouty song would be appropriate. I love the songs that show Céline can sing, but sometimes i wish they weren't all loud, if that even makes any sense.

Exactly, sometimes the screaming is not needed. Like the high notes and adlibs in sur les memes bateau

 

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[browseceline]

To me, LMBTL was the perfect song. The only thing that bothers me is that just a few months later , Sia was literally everywhere with "Chandelier" which is some kind of LMBTL.

 

Worse: "Chandelier" is even more simple : no bombastic intro, no bridge and a way more repetitive ending ( at least , Céline's song has some vocal layers and guitar riffs). Sia literally stopped singing after the second verse as the rest is no more than a copy/paste.

Even their way of singing the verses are the same.

 

Sia's song was shouty, I don't think Céline was : it was only pureness and fluidity, I might be biaised here but it seems it comes out so easily ( OMG: she sounds like godness in the pre-chorus) while Sia is struggling...

 

Of course, the live performances were not all of them perfect but nothing to be ashamed of when I hear some Sia's live performances.

 

This case is a real example of how the music industry : Céline was completely ignored by radio and thus commercially failed but Sia was completely embraced in the same period of time ...with more or less the same song.

What i do not like either that the original demo by Sia came on youtube as soon as Celine her version came on youtuhe. Demos should not leak

 

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[browseceline]

My DOS and DON'TS list for the upcoming album based on LMBTL.

 

DOS

 

1.Loved Me Back To Life

2.Somebody Loves Somebody

3.Didn't Know Love

4.Thankful

5.Sia

6.Eg White

 

DON'TS

 

1.Las Vegas covers. Only exception being a studio version of Over The Rainbow.

2.Karaoke covers like Breakaway.

3.Raspy vocals.

4.Cheesy, done-to-death lyrics as in Always Be Your Girl.

5.Diane Warren

6.Black & White album cover.

I agree! What's in Vegas should stay in Vegas. And yes, breakaway was nice but a talentshow winner already had a hit with it and that hit sounds quite like Celine's. Gone specialness. It should be songs that are specifically written for her.

 

Reason for her not singing lmbtl anymore might be because of the lyrics that go to deep and remind her of the sickness of her husband Rene who passed away.

 

Black and white albumcovers ..wel they might work but it is time to leave the all white backgrounds and go outside and make beautiful photos related to the theme of the album.

And yes no more raspiness out of bed voices. Stay yourself Celine!

 

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Edited October 22, 2016 at 08:47 AM by browseceline

[Caledor]

DON'TS

 

6.Black & White album cover.

 

Hell yes !! Totally agreed! I was quite disappointed when the EUS cover came out. I thought, oh no... not B&W again !

[Javito]

Hell yes !! Totally agreed! I was quite disappointed when the EUS cover came out. I thought, oh no... not B&W again !

 

I'm totally sick of her B&W album covers. If you look to her discography section in a timeline from 2003 to the present day, it's all packed either with black and white or sepia album covers. So depressing

 

To top it all, there's the completely empty album covers with no background behind her at all...

[browseceline]

 

I'm totally sick of her B&W album covers. If you look to her discography section in a timeline from 2003 to the present day, it's all packed either with black and white or sepia album covers. So depressing

 

To top it all, there's the completely empty album covers with no background behind her at all...

The andhc album cover was one of the best with the beautiful scenery in the background. Something like that please!

 

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[Javito]

The andhc album cover was one of the best with the beautiful scenery in the background. Something like that please!

 

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Needless to say. The best album cover ever

 

It's not just because it's full colour and the use of the colour that they gave to it, but also because of the setting where they did the photoshoot. The use of the sea, the sky and the beach all together behind her and all around the album gives it a feeling of vastness and freedom that it's unique. I love it

[mirage]

Even her LTAL tourbook photoshoot is unique.

 

I would die if her albumcover would be the one where she is standing at the limo with all the paparazzi

 

Even that was the last great tourbook photoshoot. Now we get all the standing in screens photo's.

 

Even the ELLE magazine had an amazing shoot, unfortunately we got to see like 4 pictures? Haha

 

 

 

Needless to say. The best album cover ever

 

It's not just because it's full colour and the use of the colour that they gave to it, but also because of the setting where they did the photoshoot. The use of the sea, the sky and the beach all together behind her and all around the album gives it a feeling of vastness and freedom that it's unique. I love it

[mebe]

The andhc album cover was one of the best with the beautiful scenery in the background. Something like that please!

 

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To me it was one of the worst covers lol....fake and cheesy would be the words to describe it in my opinion. We cant please everybody obviously. ..

[Danystar]

Purple Rain why not?

[Xpresso]

If you don't like the black and white covers, all you have to do is take your crayolas and color them up the way YOU want!

[isurrender]

I was disappointed that Celine made a note-to-note copy of the original. She added nothing to Breakaway. Her voice was also edited, came off very thin and high!

 

I guess you don't like any of her covers then... (or at least, most of them).

 

I love "Breakaway" a lot. I don't give a d*** about the original...it's not like I knew the song before or I listen to it.

 

It seems a pretty biased opinion to me, or at least that's not a valid reason. I mean... everybody not liking BA because it's quite similar to the original should dislike FYI as well ( for instance). A song where they didn't even bother to re-record the instrumental. What's valid for a song should be for another one, isn't it?

 

And actually, Breakaway is rather different. Céline's vocals are more powerful and convincing. She stresses more the words. It's more dramatic as it was re-arranged with high and low parts (not vocally, but musically... it's like a rollercoaster of emotions). That song is sad and kind of depressing...Ivi sings it like a walk in the wood.

 

Anyway, that song brought something different to Céline's repertoire. Musically, it has a r'n'b touch and a modern beat. That's the first (and actually the only one to date) ballad where her voice was edited (not in a "changed" way but "used" way) like the big ballads from the UK of these last years. No wonder why they released it over there. Unfortunately, they didn't push it. Céline should have visited 2 big radio stations and sing it live (acoustically or not) in the studio like all the artists do in the UK. ( something not common in France for example, or very rarely).

 

I don't know how pitched or whatever her voice was in the studio. But I don't understand why you hear it "high" as actually it was praised for using her "low voice" ( in the verses at least)...

I won't buy any hypothesis about her voice being edited in this song unless any kind of proof. lol Céline can do a lot things with her voice ( just listen to her tone when she sings "she's amazing" @ CBS morning. Nobody can't recognize her voice if we don't know it's her). Unfortunately, she didn't bother to sing it live even ONCE (pretty weird for someone who sang it all the time before recording it. René's words).

I'm just waiting for the recording sessions like some are waiting for the dvd of the last tour lol I know they exist. A journalist attended the recording and made an article back then.

 

More generally,I think LMBTL was rushed too. In a way they didn't know what to do. But beside some fillers in the second part of the album, songs are pretty good taken one by one. Actually, it's too short (at least, the "modern" part).

Strangely, it was one of the best albums, critically speaking ( if not the best).

 

But yeah, I think it's weird some people don't like it for some reasons all of her albums have (just like the polish thingy... that's the principle of a studio album.). And to be honest, I think it's the one that was the least edited. Before, her voice was mixed with overproduced music. But I think she explained that during her promo tour ( not that I believe eveything she says... lol)

Edited October 22, 2016 at 03:12 PM by isurrender