"Courage" album - Official Topic

[gafsa]

Back in the days in her busy day, with her album releases, tour, promo etc. I want her to stop for a moment or at least slow down and enjoy her life, she deserve to enjoy her achievement, she worked hard since her young age, I could never imagine myself doing such things. of course everyone want to be as famous as she is, as rich as she is now, but not many people would work hard for it, especially her career is not depend on sensation, she depend on her capability to sing, it's harder than selling sex. So now I'm happy for what she's doing, she still producing an album, a couple of singles (thought not everyone's cup of tea) doing tour to my country, what more could I ask ?, so I'm patiently waiting for this album.

 

sorry for the off topic

[Xpresso]

Is selling sex easy?

[DionFanAlways]

Is selling sex easy?

Why? :laugh: Edited January 15, 2018 at 02:14 AM by DionFanAlways

[donpi86]

sorry I'm going a bit off topic but come on.. sometimes some of you overrrated our beloved Celine... she has been "rich" almost since her 20's, she sings... not digging in a mine for bloody diamonds in Africa.. She is a mother but she has an army to rise her children...

I'm happy she is still working hard for new music.. shows... probably some tv... but is her job and she is happy doing something she loves (I'm a f***ing bartender and I wish to make movies.... but.... hahaha)

Sony puts money because with Celine is always a safe bet just on a fanbase... nowadays doing a music video is not that expensive..and promo... probably nor Celine or Sony are interested... they will sell the same albums with or without it...

She is doing what she wants because she has earned it in music industry... but I think is not a thing about she deserves it because she worked sooooo hard.... hehehe

[Xpresso]

@DionFanAlways, the "selling sex" comment was just based on gafsa's post about Céline's career being harder than selling sex.

So I was just curious if selling sex is easy...

Sorry, I'm not too sure how we got so out of topic!

[Xpresso]

And I don't think Céline has an army to raise her kids. Her sister helps but that's about it I think.

Anyway, good for her that she can do what she wants, and when she wants. I just wish she could decide when the album comes out instead of Sony...

[DionFanAlways]

@DionFanAlways, the "selling sex" comment was just based on gafsa's post about Céline's career being harder than selling sex.

So I was just curious if selling sex is easy...

Sorry, I'm not too sure how we got so out of topic!

Ohhh Lol! By the way, I think it’s pretty easy... just sayin’ .

[angelil78]

And I don't think Céline has an army to raise her kids. Her sister helps but that's about it I think.

Anyway, good for her that she can do what she wants, and when she wants. I just wish she could decide when the album comes out instead of Sony...

 

She has her sister and then two nannies

[MrTim212]

And I don't think Céline has an army to raise her kids. Her sister helps but that's about it I think.

Anyway, good for her that she can do what she wants, and when she wants. I just wish she could decide when the album comes out instead of Sony...

 

She has her sister and then two nannies

 

...and a personal chef, housekeeping staff, house manager, drivers, bodyguards, personal assistants, private jet access...

 

Not criticising her by any means, just think we have to look at this realistically.

[Bruno Portugal]

We are all desperate for a fantastic brand new album.

Yes, Celine needs time but it takes SOOOOOOOOO long.

 

[IL_DINO]

The Blabla ist go on and on.

[CSCfan]

Just read an interesting interview with Bryan Adams & Michael Bublé's manager...

 

About managing (country singer) Martina McBride:

 

In the ’90s you went to Nashville and managed Martina McBride who signed to RCA. What were the main differences operating there as a manager?

Well, here’s how it was very well put to me: Bruce, in rock n roll the act is the top of the pyramid; here it’s not that way. I said, What do you mean, how can it not be that way?

They said, First it’s the publishers, because they’ve got the songs, and here it’s all about the songs; second is the radio, because they’re playing the song, third is the fan, because country people treat their fans like gold, and fourth is the artist. I said, “You’re kidding!” But as soon as I got that through my head, I was okay.

 

Because Martina didn’t write songs, we had to get songs. When the Nashville scene was exploding nationally, who was making the money? The writers were, because not many artists in this business write their own songs. So who are the writers going to give their songs to? The person who they think will make them the most money. The artist has to win over the writer, not the other way round. You have to get into that circle.

 

Of course Céline isn't country and this isn't the '90's anymore, but the situation is more or less the same and it also applies to her. We all think all the (good) songs just fly into her lap, but it isn't that simple.. Céline herself mentioned over the past few years she practically only get send ballads. So I'm not blaming them to wait a little longer with this album, I just hope she's send some good songs this time. But that they also pick those good songs of course.

 

Also;

 

 

I think the streaming [royalty payout] thing is way out of whack, though. I think it’s disgraceful, but we’re tied to these old contracts. Someone has to step up. We’re looking at a business that’s gonna go from $25 billion to over $40 billion pretty quick, almost all through streaming, and I don’t think the artists are going to benefit too much from that.

 

You take an artist like Michael, who writes maybe one-and-a-half songs a record, it’s not great – and it’s really one-sided.

 

And this. Céline doesn't write herself, so her income from selling records is almost negligible (especially without René now, but also in this era of downloads & streaming). She wasn't considered as a singles artist, and being an album artist also means less and lesser. Hence all the performing and side projects.

Edited January 15, 2018 at 08:29 PM by CSCfan

[celine4evauk]

 

 

...and a personal chef, housekeeping staff, house manager, drivers, bodyguards, personal assistants, private jet access...

 

Not criticising her by any means, just think we have to look at this realistically.

 

And so would I if I were as rich as Celine!

[Xpresso]

I just meant at home, not at work. Does she really have personal assistans at home and a house manager? Really? Never heard about that... or my memory is just not cooperating...

[celinesounds]

Just read an interesting interview with Bryan Adams & Michael Bublé's manager...

 

About managing (country singer) Martina McBride:

 

 

 

Of course Céline isn't country and this isn't the '90's anymore, but the situation is more or less the same and it also applies to her. We all think all the (good) songs just fly into her lap, but it isn't that simple.. Céline herself mentioned over the past few years she practically only get send ballads. So I'm not blaming them to wait a little longer with this album, I just hope she's send some good songs this time. But that they also pick those good songs of course.

 

Also;

 

 

 

And this. Céline doesn't write herself, so her income from selling records is almost negligible (especially without René now, but also in this era of downloads & streaming). She wasn't considered as a singles artist, and being an album artist also means less and lesser. Hence all the performing and side projects.

 

 

talking about what is wright or wrong in the music business we don't know

 

a single is good

 

an album too, special if the artist goes on tour

 

Celine has enough songs to do more than 10 different track lists, she doesn't need to do an album, but she wants to do it

 

she could continue her thing and just pleasant us with a single like she is doing now recently

 

besides we have many non album songs

2002 - 2018

 

God Bless America

Have to dream

let your heart decide

Acadian Driftwood

if i ruled the world

the show must go on

recovering

Hymn

Edited January 15, 2018 at 09:25 PM by celinesounds

[scielle]

I just meant at home, not at work. Does she really have personal assistans at home and a house manager? Really? Never heard about that... or my memory is just not cooperating...

 

Well, isn't that how she found Pepe? Through [Mathieu], who I believe is something like a house manager / "butler"-type guy?

And yeah, there are nannies, though I think that might be just a tour-time thing. And don't forget the boys are home schooled so probably some kind of a teacher / tutor situation is probably in place, too.

Doubt all of these people are full-time / live-in, though. And as far as personal assistant goes, yeah, that's probably a professional thing that nonetheless likely seeps into her personal life, too.

Edited January 15, 2018 at 09:24 PM by scielle

[Javito]

sorry I'm going a bit off topic but come on.. sometimes some of you overrrated our beloved Celine... she has been "rich" almost since her 20's, she sings... not digging in a mine for bloody diamonds in Africa.. She is a mother but she has an army to rise her children...

I'm happy she is still working hard for new music.. shows... probably some tv... but is her job and she is happy doing something she loves (I'm a f***ing bartender and I wish to make movies.... but.... hahaha)

Sony puts money because with Celine is always a safe bet just on a fanbase... nowadays doing a music video is not that expensive..and promo... probably nor Celine or Sony are interested... they will sell the same albums with or without it...

She is doing what she wants because she has earned it in music industry... but I think is not a thing about she deserves it because she worked sooooo hard.... hehehe

 

...and a personal chef, housekeeping staff, house manager, drivers, bodyguards, personal assistants, private jet access...

 

Not criticising her by any means, just think we have to look at this realistically.

 

Thank you. Thanks for adding some doses of reality here, to those who idolise Céline SO blidnly and idiotically (not talking specifically about anybody)! I didn't want to say a comment about this because every time I say something critic I would have been the first to be thrown to the dogs, but every time someone says "poor Céline this", "poor Céline that", when the anniversary of René's passing came and "poor her how can she cope with everything/she's working so hard" and bla bla bla... it just make my #ss laugh so hard.

 

The other day I saw some popular fan's post in Facebook writing "my poor little one, she's been MOLESTED by a stupid drunk woman and she's been badly injured in her back once again now". And of course everyone rolling their eyes at his tone :rolleyes: Poor little one??? Seriously??? Céline will have her back recovered and not sweat a drop in less time than any of us could get to say "my back hurts" if we had the same problem.

 

Besides this...

 

She works 2 hours per day (at most) and only some days per week and month.

 

She doesn't write her own music.

 

She doesn't rehearse regularly her songs.

 

She's been singing the same songbook for 20 years now, and when putting a show it usually consists of 70-80% of the same damn work she's been doing for the past 20 years.

 

And when she has to release a new album, the only thing she has to care about is to record the vocals. PERIOD.

 

...

 

Yes after this and along the way it's no less truth that she's been doing 30+ years of INSANE promotion and hard work all around the world to be where she is, but everything has been given beforehand to her, she hasn't had to worry a bit about anything (until maybe, today). And honestly, like donpi said, do you really think she's digging in a mine or something for what she does??? How many people on planet Earth are suffering the passing of their partners in way more horrible or tragic conditions, and have to raise children in miserable conditions??? She has earned every cent of money she has, nobody can question that, but she has had not an army, a LEGION of help to help her with everything along the way! She's been SO lucky, extremely lucky, and still is! For having René and all the great good people René put her on their way. AND she deserves it, every inch of her success! But please let's put everything into perspective

 

She's the queen to us, but she's been treated like a QUEEN all along the way, don't forget that!

 

Well, isn't that how she found Pepe? Through [Mathieu], who I believe is something like a house manager / "butler"-type guy?

And yeah, there are nannies, though I think that might be just a tour-time thing. And don't forget the boys are home schooled so probably some kind of a teacher / tutor situation is probably in place, too.

Doubt all of these people are full-time / live-in, though. And as far as personal assistant goes, yeah, that's probably a professional thing that nonetheless likely seeps into her personal life, too.

 

Jesus, she had Spanish chefs and service that spoke Spanish ever since 2000 at least. Her children have PRIVATE teachers at home. She actually has an army of people with her, in every sense and to take care of every aspect. Other thing is that she doesn't speak about this regularly in her interviews. Because she's so balanced and down-to-earth at the same time. She knows where she comes from. One thing doesn't rule out the other!

Edited January 15, 2018 at 10:36 PM by Javito

[angelil78]

Well, isn't that how she found Pepe? Through [Mathieu], who I believe is something like a house manager / "butler"-type guy?

And yeah, there are nannies, though I think that might be just a tour-time thing. And don't forget the boys are home schooled so probably some kind of a teacher / tutor situation is probably in place, too.

Doubt all of these people are full-time / live-in, though. And as far as personal assistant goes, yeah, that's probably a professional thing that nonetheless likely seeps into her personal life, too.

 

She has spoken about the nannies, that there are two of them But maybe the serve as teachers as well?

One of the nannies is blonde and there was one dark haired, (elderly?) but I think she quit. Now there is a young red haired girl.

Then there is the security and one of them serves as a driver as well. And Mathieu who is the Butler/Chef and yeah he introduced Pepe to Céline this spring.

[scielle]

Jesus, she had Spanish chefs and service that spoke Spanish ever since 2000 at least. Her children have PRIVATE teachers at home. She actually has an army of people with her, in every sense and to take care of every aspect. Other thing is that she doesn't speak about this regularly in her interviews. Because she's so balanced and down-to-earth at the same time. She knows where she comes from. One thing doesn't rule out the other!

 

Did I say anything to the contrary?

Perplexed as to why I'm being quoted here...

[Javito]

Did I say anything to the contrary?

Perplexed as to why I'm being quoted here...

 

No sorry it was just to support and confirm what you said. She certainly found Pepe thanks to the recommendation of someone cooking at her home who was friends with him (or her wife) so yes, she has a lot of staff with her like you said, either at home or surrounding her like (bodyguards, drivers etc). We only see the usual people helping her while she's working, but she surely has another world of people behind her during her private life

Edited January 15, 2018 at 10:58 PM by Javito

[Xpresso]

Javito, many of us here will also go :rolleyes: at your tone...

She's on stage for 1.5 hrs but there's a lot more to do than just show up for the show. :rolleyes:

[manu23]

Nobody here questions how lucky Celine is. Not many artist are able to achieve what she has got in terms of money, fame, recognition and doing what she loves. She is privileged of course.

 

But just to put things in perspective, Celine has released a new studio album on average every 1.7 years in the last 15 years (during the same period Mariah Carey has released a new studio album every 2.5 years and Madonna every 3 years). All this while performing live nonstop. So when some people here say that Celine doesn’t care about her recording career or that she has stopped recording because she only cares for concerts I understand other more rational people have the need to come and say that Celine is probably the hardest working person in the industry and that we are very lucky as fans. And it doesn’t mean that people are blind or idiots, probably all the opposite, maybe they are just being reasonable and fair.

[québecflower]

Javito, many of us here will also go :rolleyes: at your tone...

She's on stage for 1.5 hrs but there's a lot more to do than just show up for the show. :rolleyes:

a Québec actor was talking about it today, being on stage for a two hours theatre performance is much harder than doing tv or cinema. You are giving all of you when on stage . and we know that Celine is not going at middle speed up there.

[Javito]

Javito, many of us here will also go :rolleyes: at your tone...

She's on stage for 1.5 hrs but there's a lot more to do than just show up for the show. :rolleyes:

 

Yes, she does soundcheck 2 hours before the show and does meet&greet (or used to) befor the show. Then she flies home till next day. That's 3-4 hours work per day.

[Javito]

Nobody here questions how lucky Celine is. Not many artist are able to achieve what she has got in terms of money, fame, recognition and doing what she loves. She is privileged of course.

 

But just to put things in perspective, Celine has released a new studio album on average every 1.7 years in the last 15 years (during the same period Mariah Carey has released a new studio album every 2.5 years and Madonna every 3 years). All this while performing live nonstop. So when some people here say that Celine doesn’t care about her recording career or that she has stopped recording because she only cares for concerts I understand other more rational people have the need to come and say that Celine is probably the hardest working person in the industry and that we are very lucky as fans. And it doesn’t mean that people are blind or idiots, probably all the opposite, maybe they are just being reasonable and fair.

 

And then you came to put two examples of singers which both write, compose AND produce their own material . That's pretty a nice good excuse to take more than 1/2 years to release an album, don't you think?! That takes way more time and work than just entering the recording studio to record vocals and then bye bye till the next recording session.

 

And Mariah did almost actually release one album every one or two years from 1990 until 2002...

 

1990 Mariah Carey Columbia

(208)

1991 Emotions Columbia

(174)

1993 Music Box Columbia

(212)

1994 Merry Christmas Columbia

(119)

1995 Daydream Columbia

(256)

1997 Butterfly Columbia

(243)

1999 Rainbow Columbia

(149)

2001 Glitter Virgin

(93)

2002 Charmbracelet

 

 

 

Sorry, not a valid comparison...

Edited January 15, 2018 at 11:30 PM by Javito

[Javito]

a Québec actor was talking about it today, being on stage for a two hours theatre performance is much harder than doing tv or cinema. You are giving all of you when on stage . and we know that Celine is not going at middle speed up there.

 

I don't want to open a can of worms with this, but acting for a play reciting a text for 2 hours certainly can't be the same as singing 10-15 songs which the majority of them must be engraved on your skin for the thousands (literally) of times you have sang them for 20 years...

 

Céline must be able to perform most of the songs she keeps singing today even in her sleep.

Edited January 15, 2018 at 11:15 PM by Javito

[manu23]

I know you have the need to discredit Celine for not writing her own songs on every opportunity, that doesn’t take away the fact she has released more studio albums that her peers in the 00s and also in the 90s, so your continuous claim that she doesn't care about recording albums doesn't hold. Btw I would like to know on those songs where Mariah Carey and Madonna appear as cowriters with a bunch of other people how much did they actually wrote, probably much less you may think

[felicia]

Album isn’t finished yet...

 

Btw check his IG story

https://instagram.com/p/Bd_KYCHnqy9/

 

 

[Javito]

I know you have the need to discredit Celine for not writing her own songs on every opportunity, that doesn’t take away the fact she has released more studio albums that her peers in the 00s and also in the 90s, so your continuous claim that she doesn't care about recording albums doesn't hold. Btw I would like to know on those songs where Mariah Carey and Madonna appear as cowriters with a bunch of other people how much did they actually wrote, probably much less you may think

 

I don't discredit her for that, I just say that the example of artists you came to put is unfortunate, it just can't be valid because they have totally different careers and workloads. You said Céline has released one album every 1/2 years and compared her with Mariah and Madonna, and I said these take more time because they are on charge of doing every song from scratch. Celine has only cared to put the vocals, most of the times within weeks for each album, and that's all she had to care about the creation of each album. It's pretty different.

 

And I'm sure Mariah and Madonna would have released more albums if they have had a manager or a bunch of people looking out for songs and writers and producers like Céline has had. It can't be very complicated when you're given the songs and you just have to say if you like them and then just record the voice. But both Mariah and Madonna create their albums from zero, writing the lyrics and the music and arranging and producing. That justifies the reason why they haven't released as many albums as Céline.

 

I admire and love Celine for many reasons, but not writing her own stuff is not one of the reasons why I would dislike her, not at all

Edited January 15, 2018 at 11:38 PM by Javito

[mirage]

Album isnt finished yet...

 

Btw check his IG story

https://instagram.com/p/Bd_KYCHnqy9/

Who is he?!

 

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