Loved Me Back To Life - Worldwide Charts/Sales Topic

[Peppercorn1991]

All I'm going to say is she could be Avril....

 

And if the sales of qvc and itunes are not included in that projection then it may not be so bad

 

Hoping my county now makes this happen!

 

Kev x

[LuisMa]

Calm down, people. The album was just pressed! The woman can still sell out stadiums, there's nothing wrong with the artists known as Celine Dion.

Sans attendre was a modern marvel in terms of sales, but her French career attracts a different sort of audience than her English recordings. If she was doing standards and ballads instead of trying to appeal to Adele and Neyo fans she might find more success.

 

The album was just pressed as some people.

 

But I agree. What artist after 35 years of career at such a young age still can accomplish what she has done? Sure, I'd love her to have an album out every single year, but she never stopped, and that's the most important thing. I also hope she sells a bit more, but it's better to have her album a steady seller like SA rather than one that lingers in the bottom 100 positions for many weeks or just completely disappear!

Edited November 6, 2013 at 11:52 PM by LuisMa

[wjd]

The QVC predictions are included in the HDD estimates.

 

I still have faith that she might do a bit more, but still - underwhelmed doesn't do my current mood justice.

[mebe]

Dr Oz might help a bit too!!

[Your_Su_Phu]

The QVC predictions are included in the HDD estimates.

 

I still have faith that she might do a bit more, but still - underwhelmed doesn't do my current mood justice.

 

D: That's shocking. That means that without the QVC #'s she's on par with Cher

 

 

Also LMAO @ whoever thinks it's all Sony's fault that she stopped selling 20 million copies an album in 2013. I don't agree with a lot of their decisions, but what delusional world do you live in where an artist maintains that kind of success 30 years into their career?

[CelinesDIVO5]

The QVC predictions are included in the HDD estimates.

 

I still have faith that she might do a bit more, but still - underwhelmed doesn't do my current mood justice.

 

Are you sure? I believe they were predicting 70k at least even before the QVC advertisement.

[mebe]

Anyway, why talking about a flop when she's been #1 in 31 countries, top 5 in 66 countries and top 10 in 86 countries!!!!! She still beats most of the current artists with this performance on worldwide charts. That's what is important and longevity of course...so let's see how she does over the next couple of months! She is the #6 artist overall on iTunes worldwide!!! Celine just proved us that she is still relevant in the music industry!!!

Congratulations Celine!!!

[québecflower]

i know that i will shock some people, but the world does not revolve around the united states as much as before

[Alex_Incognito]

i know that i will shock some people, but the world does not revolve around the united states as much as before

Menteuse!!!

[québecflower]

Menteuse!!!

 

je vis au pays de l'intolérance linguistique

[Allysadreams]

I think she'll sell 100,000 + in America in the first week...I do not believe those sales at all...

[Your_Su_Phu]

Just in case anyone wants to cling onto any shred of hope, although it's rare, Hits daily double has made some false predictions before

 

But it's very rare

 

In 2009, they predicted JayZ's teh blueprint 3 would sell 300-350k a day into its release. It ended up selling 476k the first week

Edited November 7, 2013 at 12:16 AM by Your_Su_Phu

[Alex_Incognito]

je vis au pays de l'intolérance linguistique

 

Ça, ce n'est pas un mensonge! mdr!

[wjd]

Are you sure? I believe they were predicting 70k at least even before the QVC advertisement.

 

Well Whitney Houston had the exact same QVC treatment, and when quizzed around the time of her album's release, HDD confirmed that QVC were built into their projections.

[Your_Su_Phu]

Am I the only one who generally tends to go shopping (grocery or otherwise) on the weekends?

Maybe all the housewives in the US won't be buying the album until the end of the week

[shak ali]

India China Brazil and Russia are pretty big markets too....love incredible to be part of the football world cup in 2014!!

[Your_Su_Phu]

India China Brazil and Russia are pretty big markets too....love incredible to be part of the football world cup in 2014!!

 

They have big potential, but because of piracy and other reasons, they're actually pretty small music markets. Very few people in China for example buy real albums, it's mostly bootlegs. It's the case in a lot of developing Asia.

Edited November 7, 2013 at 12:32 AM by Your_Su_Phu

[CelinesDIVO5]

Well Whitney Houston had the exact same QVC treatment, and when quizzed around the time of her album's release, HDD confirmed that QVC were built into their projections.

 

I just don't see how that's possible when QVC sales are done in real time, live while the infomercial is being aired.

[wjd]

A platinum album for western artists is something silly like 10 or 20,000 copies [i don't have the figures offhand] - tiny markets with MASSIVE potential, as Your_Su_Phu said.

[wjd]

I just don't see how that's possible when QVC sales are done in real time, live while the infomercial is being aired.

 

But its not like QVC are ordering them themselves in real-time - they will have an allocation from Sony, built into Sony's initial shipment. So for e.g. QVC might have ordered 25,000 copies of the album, but only sold 13,000 on that day.

 

HDD have industry sources that we don't, I would love it if QVC's figures aren't built into HDD's estimation!

[dj4celine]

I don't know if I should laugh or cry or just be nonchalant regarding the HDD predictions. But it sure is abysmal to say the least.

 

India China Brazil and Russia are pretty big markets too....love incredible to be part of the football world cup in 2014!!

Yes, but only when it comes to their domestic artists and not international artists, especially India and China where more than 80% of the music sales are for domestic artists.

Personally, I can say that in India, Universal Music has more muscle than Sony and it's no surprise that Eminem has been #1 on iTunes India for hours whereas Celine went only to #2 there for a couple of hours and has dropped below #10 thereafter.

 

When I asked the people I know at Sony India, their response was another disappointment when they wrote back to me saying they sent less than 5000 copies to the retailers cos they have very low expectations for this album as it got a lukewarm response worldwide, especially the US, whose market is very much reflected. So there you go - US may not be the centre of the universe but when it comes to the music market, like someone above me pointed out, the US and UK matter a lot and is reflected in International sales a lot.

 

For example, the Platinum and Gold certifications for domestic artists are 200k and 100k while for International artists, they are just 6000 and 4000 copies respectively. But we have to factor in the fact that International music costs sometimes double of the domestic music there.

Edited November 7, 2013 at 12:41 AM by dj4celine

[Your_Su_Phu]

I think I read an article that claimed that 90 percent of physical music sales in China are from bootlegs/pirated copies

 

 

 

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Edited November 7, 2013 at 12:41 AM by Your_Su_Phu

[québecflower]

Ça, ce n'est pas un mensonge! mdr!

 

pfff....au moins, je ne fais pas de faute en français

[yoyoma]

First of all, Sony is stupid enough to put the banner only starting the day of the release. Eminem and Gaga already had them few weeks before.

Putting a banner put the message out there and people would pre-order and will help the debut sales higher

[jepoi]

I will not get myself so worked-up over these predictions. I refuse to acknowledge. It's just pointless. It's very negative and is taking the fun away from this forum. And some of us here write things as if it's already happened. Come on, people. It's just been two days. Hold your horses for now. Edited November 7, 2013 at 01:02 AM by jepoi

[Alex_Incognito]

pfff....au moins, je ne fais pas de faute en français

pffff...un...de...mais mon accent est compréhensible en Europe!

je blague, je blague!

Edited November 7, 2013 at 01:03 AM by Alex_Incognito

[soleilgirly]

I'm going to stay positive. Like Ellie Goulding sings...anything could happen!

Also the single LMBTD went up to 102. It's close to getting into the top 100 again!

[québecflower]

pffff...un...de...

Québec french, i could have add a s to fautes but since there is no faute but the rule is to put a s... you are good Edited November 7, 2013 at 01:02 AM by québecflower

[Xpresso]

pffff...un...de...mais mon accent est compréhensible en Europe!

je blague, je blague!

Le mien aussi tabarnak!

[Alex_Incognito]

Québec french, i could have add a s to fautes but since there is no faute but the rule is to put a s... you are good

Secretly, I want to adopt your accent!!!!

Ne le dis à personne!!!!