Second single: "Incredible" - Duet with Ne-Yo

[Xpresso]

Almost forgot... yes there are many women with 3 children who balance work and personal life. But let me remind some of you (who think that Celine doesn't do enough or that Vegas is evil ) that very few of those women are married to a 70-year old man and are incredibly rich. Most of these women would probably just stay home with their children if they had the same money... So let's be happy with what we get.

 

On another note, I find it interesting that members should not personally attack other forum members (makes senses), but when a member makes a personal attack against Celine he/she doesn't get a warning and it's considered okay?????

[Javito]

I think it is much more simply that all of that things.... There is only one reason why Celine doesn't make a music video for this album... very simple... BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.... It's not because she is a busy mother (of course she isn't) it's not because Sony doesn't want to invest money in a music video (of course they have enough money for one, or two or three music videos for Celine) It is as simple as lack of interest in doing it... and it can be wrong or good... (for me totally wrong) but if they only think in a music video as Celine mimic with diva posses... well.. it is good they didn't make anything... if they are not going to use the music videos as a minimun of artistic expression...

This album has been a good success and it could have had at least two music videos but they didn't want to do it... and it is obvious that some fans gets pissed off.... "now come to me in an interview and tell me you want to be an actress... yes... of course...." and you are not able to act in a single video....

But this is about music and even they have been almost 4 years recording this simple 14 tracks album, at the end it is a good album and we have seen a lot of tv performances... including DKL and BA... This is what Celine probably wants... Tv performances with being mother interviews... if we want to be fans of Celine.. this is what we should get used to...

If I want to see music videos artistics experiences I go to youtube and look for Lana del Rey, Gaga, Beyoncé, Woodkid, Alt-J and a very long etc...

 

Aaaaamen donpi! And straight to the point. I 101% agree with your post. If videoclips for LMBTL and Incredible didn't happen, its because either Celine, or Sony, or both of them together JUST DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN. It's not a problem of money, obviously.

 

And that "she didn't want it to happen" to me can be translated also into this:

 

No music videos + the "I don't care about my albums, only performing in concerts" attitude = Absolute lack of artistic ambition in her career today. Seems like she only wants to sing her songs one after the other on a stage and go home. Nothing else. But sorry, that's not what an album is released for, in all honesty. From this perspective, its no wonder why she took 6 years since Taking Chances to release new material.

 

About the acting thing, I couldn't agree more when you connect videoclips with acting. Each time she has had the chance to shoot a videoclip, it was a chance for her to do some acting. Okay, so she wants to be an actress someday. Well, according to the lack of videos she does for her singles today and the minimum effort she does when we get one, or when she performs in TV when she barely moves away behind the microphone, I don't know what to believe. She doesn't look like exactly like "crazy" for acting!

Edited January 6, 2014 at 12:15 PM by Javito

[Lu CelineFan]

Yes, I am also gonna go. There's a big irony lying in the fact that we were a couple days ago saying Happy New Year and wishing the best to all and to the singer, and now the drama and disrespect ensues again, not to mention the bad intentions.

 

After calling people ugly, dumb, ridiculous, delusional, etcetera in a public place, look at the mirror. Do you like what you see? It's easy to sit behind a computer and spew all those things. I wonder if you're man or woman enough to tell them straight into the person's eyes. Or at least you can do as Matt: man up and apologize. That's really amazing.

 

But this fight and arguing about something that has been debated a million times and never leads to anywhere is tiring, and when people are hurt in the middle it is totally unwanted and unacceptable. And this is one of the reasons why I stopped my forum donations and participation five years ago. I was not the only one...

 

Take care y'all!

 

Please don´t go

Don´t goooooooo

[LukeD]

WARNING: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS on other members. If anyone is found doing this, warning points shall be issued.

I guess your dearest friend Javito got a warning for calling other people's opinion 'stupid, plain ridiculous and to laugh at'. Oh no... I'm sure he didn't.

[LukeD]

last but not least, what you say about Celine "not owing us anything" is just stupid. Céline is where she is BECAUSE OF THE FANS.

So when you go to a CD store and see a Celine Dion release you think: 'Aw, I will selflessly support this woman.'

[LukeD]

You just said it's wrong to personally attack someone and then went personally attacked CelineDivo in the next sentence.

To call what others say stupid, plain ridiculous and to laugh at is not a personal attack in his books. The irony.

[LukeD]

I think it is much more simply that all of that things.... There is only one reason why Celine doesn't make a music video for this album... very simple... BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT....

And why would she make a music video for a song that is doomed on charts due to lack of airplay? To please the fans who whine about the lack of it? Trust me, these people would have something negative to say about the video clip as well. It would either be the concept or the hair or the make-up. Whatever. This comes from someone who really wanted a music video for her new English album. However, the fact that they didn't want as I had hoped is no reason to bash Celine who is still working harder than any other singer out there.

[Javito]

Luke, my post wasn't addressed to anyone in particular, nor I did call anybody stupid. Saying that some of the things I read about Celine's career looked "stupid" to me isn't the same as calling directly someone stupid. But if you felt offended I beg your pardon However I could read yesterday someone who directly called another member "narcissist" and "jerk", all of a sudden and just for the sake of it

 

And why would she make a music video for a song that is doomed on charts due to lack of airplay? To please the fans who whine about the lack of it? Trust me, these people would have something negative to say about the video clip as well. It would either be the concept or the hair or the make-up. Whatever. This comes from someone who really wanted a music video for her new English album. However, the fact that they didn't want as I had hoped is no reason to bash Celine who is still working harder than any other singer out there.

 

It's the reason to bash Sony Music, and invite Céline to leave that record label and shift to some other that treats her new music the way they deserve?

Edited January 6, 2014 at 12:58 PM by Javito

[Jeff Abbott]

There aren't that many albums nowadays with a very long life. Sony is a company looking to make money. So they invest the least amount of money hoping for a good profit... That's what they are doing with Celine's album.

And Celine is NOT the person who decides if there is a video or not for a new single. If Sony decides to invest money in a music video, don't worry Celine will be there.

finally somebody said it out loud, agreed 100%

[LukeD]

No music videos + the "I don't care about my albums, only performing in concerts" attitude = Absolute lack of artistic ambition in her career today. Seems like she only wants to sing her songs one after the other on a stage and go home. Nothing else. But sorry, that's not what an album is released for, in all honesty. From this perspective, its no wonder why she took 6 years since Taking Chances to release new material.

The art of manipulation. Let's count your lies/attempts to manipulate situations and statements. 1.Celine has never said she does not care about her albums. Truth is she has said she does not care about how much an album will sell which is another, entirely different thing. 2. Celine does not only care about performing in concerts. She has clearly stated she could just sing in concerts since this is what she likes the most, but she honestly felt like making an album. 3. It is baseless to say 'she wants to sing her songs and go home' when she just ended the huge promotion for her latest album. How many singers went to Canada, USA, France and UK while pulling off concerts? Rhetorical question. 4.Worst attempt to manipulate things is your very last phrase where you imply that she took 6 years to record an album because she didn't care, while in facts the woman was in a world tour for over a year till 2009 and then faced several miscarriages while she tried to stay pregnant. And you have the nerve to represent one of the darkest periods of her life as an era where Celine just didn't care. WOW. Edited January 6, 2014 at 01:18 PM by LukeD

[LukeD]

Luke, my post wasn't addressed to anyone in particular, nor I did call anybody stupid. Saying that some of the things I read about Celine's career looked "stupid" to me isn't the same as calling directly someone stupid. But if you felt offended I beg your pardon However I could read yesterday someone who directly called another member "narcissist" and "jerk", all of a sudden and just for the sake of it

 

 

 

It's the reason to bash Sony Music, and invite Céline to leave that record label and shift to some other that treats her new music the way they deserve?

Save it. You clearly said it is 'stupid to say Celine does not owe us anything' and this was in reference to my previous comment. You can't criticize what others say and then state that you don't address your comment to anyone in particular. You can't have it both ways, it is a blatant contradiction and I'm sick of them.

[LukeD]

It's the reason to bash Sony Music, and invite Céline to leave that record label and shift to some other that treats her new music the way they deserve?

I was talking about the person who clearly bashed Celine saying she should be ashamed. If you think another record label could put Celine on The Voice, Strictly Come Dancing, X-Factor, Wetten Dass, Ellen DeGeneres and so on (She did tons of TV promotion) within 2 months or that they could make video clips for her doomed singles, I rest my case. Edited January 6, 2014 at 01:26 PM by LukeD

[LukeD]

Yes, I am also gonna go.

Run to save yourself, dear! Be sure I will soon enough follow.

[Javito]

I'm not going to repeat myself again with my opinions. I'm not messing with her private life and what she does with it, that's not my business. And I never tried to mix her misfortune and her attempts to become pregnant with her music career, which is only what I dare to ta lk about because as a fan, that's what I look forward to, not what she does in her free time or how many children does she want to have. That's her life and her business. But as a fan, I can speak, comment and criticise as much as I want about the decissions she or Sony take with her career, as well as everyone else who is in this forum. It's up to you to take advantage of your freedom of speech, as long as you are polite and respectful with each other. But please don't put in my mouth words that I didn't even mention, to make me feel miserable about what I said because I never played with her miscarriage, that's something you pulled out of your sleeve to make even more drama out of my opinion about a very specific topic in her professional career, which is the lack of support that she receives from Sony today. However, its you who tried to manipulate my post with your point #4 introducing the miscarriage thing

 

Like I said, I've explained long enough my point of view about her career and how I believe she places her recording career in the last place in the list of priorities of her professional career (not the list of priorities in her life, in a broad sense). I never dared to mess in how she manages her private life, but I did give my opinion about the limited time she dedicates to her professional career today, which is why I care about, and like most of the fans, that's why we are here. And because its a limited time, I think she and Sony could do much better things with it, if it wasn't for Vegas and the crazy amout of time she's spending in the Colosseum at Caesars Palace since 2003, a time she can't spend in making other things for her albums and her evolution as an artist. That's all what I've always said, and I don't regret.

 

"A word to the wise is enough", they say

Edited January 6, 2014 at 02:12 PM by Javito

[LukeD]

I'm not going to repeat myself again with my opinions. I'm not messing with her private life and what she does with it, that's not my business. And I never tried to mix her misfortune and her attempts to become pregnant with her music career, which is only what I dare to ta lk about because as a fan, that's what I look forward to, not what she does in her free time or how many children does she want to have. That's her life and her business. But as a fan, I can speak, comment and criticise as much as I want about the decissions she or Sony take with her career, as well as everyone else who is in this forum. It's up to you to take advantage of your freedom of speech, as long as you are polite and respectful with each other. But please don't put in my mouth words that I didn't even mention, to make me feel miserable about what I said because I never played with her miscarriage, that's something you pulled out of your sleeve to make even more drama out of my opinion about a very specific topic in her professional career, which is the lack of support that she receives from Sony today. However, its you who tried to manipulate my post with your point #4 introducing the miscarriage thing

 

You said and I quote ''Seems like she only wants to sing her songs one after the other on a stage and go home. Nothing else. But sorry, that's not what an album is released for, in all honesty. From this perspective, its no wonder why she took 6 years since Taking Chances to release new material.'' and now you say ''I never tried to mix her misfortunes and attempt to become pregnant with her music career''. You really think you are going to get away with this? Any person with an IQ of 50 could understand you correlated her music absence to the 'fact' that she did not care (since 'she only wants to sing her songs and go home'). I am not putting words in your mouth, I am quoting what you said. I am not even interpreting anything. No need. Your statements are brighter than the sun. Also, it is not the first time you complain about her so-called '6 years absence' (as if she was sitting on her couch eating Lays) totally disregarding her work, album releases and personal struggles. Also, since you're doing your little preaching here and there around freedom of speech and politeness, I have to say that saying what others posted is stupid, ridiculous and that you are rolling on the floor laughing (Things you clearly said) is not polite, nor respectful. Βack in Junior High we called it 'bullying'. So again, save it. Edited January 6, 2014 at 02:30 PM by LukeD

[Alex_Incognito]

Wow, I wake up and here I am on my vacation to Chicago. It's -41 C (-42 F)with the windchill (colder than Siberia!) and there's 30cm (12in) of snow on the ground. Then I come here. A place where we're supposed to have fun and there's even more sh!it on the ground than here in Chicago!

 

It's time for a Celine forum revolution. Clearly the fans can no longer live in harmony. This isn't the first time, but this is the first time that the negativity has been so thick. Long time members leaving because others are allowed to spew BS with simple warnings? What has happened to the moderation here? It's been a problem for a long time.

 

We're wrapping up the lovely promotion of the LMBTL album. This was a memorable time for me. I got to see her in Paris and I think she's released the best English album she's done in many, many years. But I don't come here to read the hatred before coming up with my opinion. So many of your get caught up in the negativity. I remember going back to my hotel in Paris and reading reviews of how Celine sucked when these people hadn't even been to her show. Nothing could have been further than the truth.

 

Some of us have been here for over 10 years. It breaks my heart to see these people go because of senseless posts. With these great members leaving, that leaves more room for the negative ones. Pretty soon this will be the "Vegas killed Celine, but boy ANDHC was great" forum. Oy.

 

Edit: Furthermore, isn't this supposed to be "fun"? Life can really suck, but I consider my fandom for Celine a positive part of my life. She is not my life, by any means. But she sure does make things better. I'm grateful she's still performing and still giving us quality music.

Edited January 6, 2014 at 02:33 PM by Alex_Incognito

[nuts2you]

I just hope that this doesn't get back to her. We know that her ppl do come in here from time to time,,

[Alex_Incognito]

I just hope that this doesn't get back to her. We know that her ppl do come in here from time to time,,

This won't get back to her, If anything, her team will laugh that her fans can't get along.

[Javito]

You said and I quote ''Seems like she only wants to sing her songs one after the other on a stage and go home. Nothing else. But sorry, that's not what an album is released for, in all honesty. From this perspective, its no wonder why she took 6 years since Taking Chances to release new material.'' and now you say ''I never tried to mix her misfortunes and attempt to become pregnant with her music career''. You really think you are going to get away with this? Any person with an IQ of 50 could understand you correlated her music absence to the 'fact' that she did not care (since 'she only wants to sing her songs and go home'). I am not putting words in your mouth, I am quoting what you said. I am not even interpreting anything. No need. Your statements are brighter than the sun. Also, it is not the first time you complain about her so-called '6 years absence' (as if she was sitting on her couch eating Lays) totally disregarding her work, album releases and personal struggles.

 

Yes, 6 years of absence without new material in radios. Because in some countries, she didn't toured with the TCWT and even if she released a live album in 2010, it's not the same to release a live album with no new songs than a studio album with a lead single that has the chance (supposedly) to be promoted on radios. So technically from Taking Chances (2007) until Loved Me Back To Life (2013) she's been away from the international music industry. Not in vain every media has been promoting the new album as "her first album in six years", because new recordings are still what differentiates a singer who is active in this business than another one who is not (or much less), want it or not. That's why I've always defended the need of Céline to keep releasing new music (the more, the better), because that's what everyone will enjoy at the same time because its a product that its available for everyone at the same time (unlike her Vegas concerts or tours) If you realize, nobody has announced a single time during the LMBTL promotion that she released a live CD/DVD and a movie about her tour in 2010 People want new music to consider that an artist has offered something new, for real, and she didn't for 6 years, that's the truth.

 

That said, I think I'm gonna repeat this like a scratched record again, but when I say that she spent 6 years without releasing anything, I'm not blaming her for that, and I've explained my point about this a gazillion times: I'm blaming SONY MUSIC, her record label, for not releasing anything new during all those years, call it a new single, an album with unreleased songs, a "The Collector's Series Vol. 2" with a new single and promote it a little here and there sending it to radios or whatever. They did nothing, despite the fact that they have tons of material under lock and key. That's neglecting her international career for 6 years, because other singer that has been releasing one new album every couple of years, would have tell his/her record label to move their #ss and put something out to keep her massive fanbase awake while she felt ready to release a full new album. But Céline didn't. Despite she had the material ready from past years and past recording sessions. So yes, in that way I openly say that in those 6 years "Celine didn't take enough care of her career", at least her career outside Vegas. And "Celine" means also the big TEAM of people who is behind her, supposedly to support and take this kind of decissions when she's resting and enjoying her family life too I'm not an idiot, I already learnt by heart that Celine Dion has and never will personally take professional decissions like "I'm gonna record an album now because I feel the record label needs one", but then there's a large team of people around her who supposedly are there to say "hey, a new english album is taking more time than expected, we should release something new in the meantime". But that team rested in their laurels at least for 3 years, between 2010 and 2013, in which Celine was completely away from the international scene and they should have released something precisely to make these tough days of LMBT acceptance/struggling easier for the people and the media, because the more time that passed since 2010 until the new english album arrived, the HARDER would be to reach the audiences again. And to prove this, here we have the current situation with radios that don't want to play her music because she's regarded as a has been, or "old". You're watching the result of that 6 year absence in real time, Luke, in Greece, like i'm watching it in Spain, like fans in the US... and so on.

 

Six years is a lifetime for a singer to be forgotten in people's minds, and for radio DJ's to put you down when not long ago they put you in the top of the tops. That's how this industry works, unfortunately. You can't get distracted much time, or people will forget about you soon. Something which could have been easily avoided if her team had done their job during that time .

 

Sorry but I can't explain myself better, but I'm sure there are members who still get what I say without complicating matters. Like I said, "a word to the wise is enough", but you want to take out of proportion everything I say .

 

Also, since you're doing your little preaching here and there around freedom of speech and politeness, I have to say that saying what others posted is stupid, ridiculous and that you are rolling on the floor laughing (Things you clearly said) is not polite, nor respectful. Βack in Junior High we called it 'bullying'. So again, save it.

 

Now bullying ...and what's next? Omg... Luke I didn't know you liked to exaggerate and make a snow ball out of nothing...

Edited January 6, 2014 at 05:13 PM by Javito

[québecflower]

i'm very sad that good people have decided to leave, I hope you will both reconsider this decision. Your presence will be missed greatly.

 

For the moment, i think that a moment of reflexion is necessary, before posting commentaries that could be hurtful . I don't want to read one more time that Celine is lazy, that she doesn't care, it isn't true. The nineties are over, accept it,

Edited January 6, 2014 at 05:03 PM by québecflower

[Javito]

Honestly, I don't get why all this tantrum. Luke, I see you blocked me in Facebook, even if I apologized if something I wrote hurted you or felt offended, that was never my intention It's pretty clear there are certain topics which are becoming "untouchable" or taboo in this forum without driving the conversation crazy or out of proportion. In any case, I didn't start the disrespectful comments, and that member already apologized. I don't see the use of all this tantrum guys

[Xpresso]

Here's my wish for 2014 - I don't want to read in every thread that Céline is lazy about recording new music, that she took 6 years to record a new album or that Vegas is killing her career. Come on, Céline is not that puppet that used to say yes to everything at a time when she was still building her career. Now she has reached a well deserved legend status and she has learned to say no. By the time you reach your 40's (and sometimes earlier) you realize that your job and your career is not everything in this world. Céline is smart and has managed to have a fulfilled personal life while still doing what she loves: concerts!!! So I wish everyone to follow in Céline's footsteps and find the balance they deserve and enjoy what life (and Céline ) have to offer. Céline is not the type of person who criticizes people, and it would be great to see this reflected on a forum about her. Peace.

[québecflower]

Here's my wish for 2014 - I don't want to read in every thread that Céline is lazy about recording new music, that she took 6 years to record a new album or that Vegas is killing her career. Come on, Céline is not that puppet that used to say yes to everything at a time when she was still building her career. Now she has reached a well deserved legend status and she has learned to say no. By the time you reach your 40's (and sometimes earlier) you realize that your job and your career is not everything in this world. Céline is smart and has managed to have a fulfilled personal life while still doing what she loves: concerts!!! So I wish everyone to follow in Céline's footsteps and find the balance they deserve and enjoy what life (and Céline ) have to offer. Céline is not the type of person who criticizes people, and it would be great to see this reflected on a forum about her. Peace.

i hope for Celine that she will finally sell those houses.. It must cost a fortune keeping them...

[Javito]

Does Ne-Yo communicate with fans regularly? Maybe if several of us ask him in Twitter about the videoclip, we will get some info from the hourse's mouth?

[Jeff Abbott]

Does Ne-Yo communicate with fans regularly? Maybe if several of us ask him in Twitter about the videoclip, we will get some info from the hourse's mouth?

I'm not sure he himself knows what's going on with Incredible and the accompanying videoclip.

[dj4celine]

On another note, I find it interesting that members should not personally attack other forum members (makes senses), but when a member makes a personal attack against Celine he/she doesn't get a warning and it's considered okay?????

Because those posts were reported against. If you have any complain against any particular post or member, use the report button.

 

I guess your dearest friend Javito got a warning for calling other people's opinion 'stupid, plain ridiculous and to laugh at'. Oh no... I'm sure he didn't.

Luke, this isn't about who's a friend or who is not. You got a warning because your post was reported by members here. Also, there is a strict rule against name-calling, which you did and that, too not something mild. Please go see what you wrote.

 

If you think I haven't warned Javito, please ask him. On top of that, he was even banned. What you got is a simple warning for 24 hours. He has gotten worse than what you got. Anyway, this isn't who gets what and I do not decide how you are warned.

 

I'm really sad to see that you took this one so personally and you took offence in me doing it and questioned why I did it by citing some other member, when you actually broke the rules with your little tirade there. If you had anything personal against me, you should have written to me via PM instead of spewing it out here. He is to me what you are to me and I, as well as the other moderators here aren't going to differentiate in giving out warnings. I'm surprised to see that you had to respond so dramatically to each and every post there is. I'm disappointed in you not just as being part of the moderating team but also cos I thought of you as a friend.

Edited January 6, 2014 at 06:05 PM by dj4celine

[chocolatechip15]

i'm very sad that good people have decided to leave, I hope you will both reconsider this decision. Your presence will be missed greatly.

 

For the moment, i think that a moment of reflexion is necessary, before posting commentaries that could be hurtful . I don't want to read one more time that Celine is lazy, that she doesn't care, it isn't true. The nineties are over, accept it,

 

I agree 1000% with everything quebecflower said.

 

I enjoy a little healthy debate about my favorite topic - Celine! - but my posts are usually defending her & I know I've tried to be respectful & never attack anyone. But if my posts offended anyone, then I sincerely apologize.

 

Luis & Matthew - I hope you reconsider your decisions. As quebecflower wrote, you will be greatly missed.

[Alex_Incognito]

Jesus wept.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Yes, 6 years of absence without new material in radios. Because in some countries, she didn't toured with the TCWT and even if she released a live album in 2010, it's not the same to release a live album with no new songs than a studio album with a lead single that has the chance (supposedly) to be promoted on radios. So technically from Taking Chances (2007) until Loved Me Back To Life (2013) she's been away from the international music industry. Not in vain every media has been promoting the new album as "her first album in six years", because new recordings are still what differentiates a singer who is active in this business than another one who is not (or much less), want it or not. That's why I've always defended the need of Céline to keep releasing new music (the more, the better), because that's what everyone will enjoy at the same time because its a product that its available for everyone at the same time (unlike her Vegas concerts or tours) If you realize, nobody has announced a single time during the LMBTL promotion that she released a live CD/DVD and a movie about her tour in 2010 People want new music to consider that an artist has offered something new, for real, and she didn't for 6 years, that's the truth.

 

That said, I think I'm gonna repeat this like a scratched record again, but when I say that she spent 6 years without releasing anything, I'm not blaming her for that, and I've explained my point about this a gazillion times: I'm blaming SONY MUSIC, her record label, for not releasing anything new during all those years, call it a new single, an album with unreleased songs, a "The Collector's Series Vol. 2" with a new single and promote it a little here and there sending it to radios or whatever. They did nothing, despite the fact that they have tons of material under lock and key. That's neglecting her international career for 6 years, because other singer that has been releasing one new album every couple of years, would have tell his/her record label to move their #ss and put something out to keep her massive fanbase awake while she felt ready to release a full new album. But Céline didn't. Despite she had the material ready from past years and past recording sessions. So yes, in that way I openly say that in those 6 years "Celine didn't take enough care of her career", at least her career outside Vegas. And "Celine" means also the big TEAM of people who is behind her, supposedly to support and take this kind of decissions when she's resting and enjoying her family life too I'm not an idiot, I already learnt by heart that Celine Dion has and never will personally take professional decissions like "I'm gonna record an album now because I feel the record label needs one", but then there's a large team of people around her who supposedly are there to say "hey, a new english album is taking more time than expected, we should release something new in the meantime". But that team rested in their laurels at least for 3 years, between 2010 and 2013, in which Celine was completely away from the international scene and they should have released something precisely to make these tough days of LMBT acceptance/struggling easier for the people and the media, because the more time that passed since 2010 until the new english album arrived, the HARDER would be to reach the audiences again. And to prove this, here we have the current situation with radios that don't want to play her music because she's regarded as a has been, or "old". You're watching the result of that 6 year absence in real time, Luke, in Greece, like i'm watching it in Spain, like fans in the US... and so on.

 

Six years is a lifetime for a singer to be forgotten in people's minds, and for radio DJ's to put you down when not long ago they put you in the top of the tops. That's how this industry works, unfortunately. You can't get distracted much time, or people will forget about you soon. Something which could have been easily avoided if her team had done their job during that time .

 

Sorry but I can't explain myself better, but I'm sure there are members who still get what I say without complicating matters. Like I said, "a word to the wise is enough", but you want to take out of proportion everything I say .

 

 

 

Now bullying ...and what's next? Omg... Luke I didn't know you liked to exaggerate and make a snow ball out of nothing...

 

You keep saying that "in her 6 year absence" they should have released unreleased material. It's unreleased for a reason. Record companies don't hoard rejected album tracks to create new albums with. It's simply part of the inventory. Plus, since she was "absent" from her career, she wouldn't be promoting such a release, and it wouldn't do well. But then again, you would complain about that as well.

 

And for the record, I apologized for what I said in a earlier post. However, as usual you decide to ignore what you don't want to accept as the truth. Instead you use it against me. And you were clearly instigating me without using my name because you quoted my words. But you will get away with that because you didn't use my name. You need to wake up and realize that you missed Celine's glory days and they aren't coming back. No matter how many times you post on here, and no matter how many times you manipulate your own words to argue someone else's opinion so that you can have the last word so that you can be the one that's "right" will not bring Celine Dion back to the top 40. I can't believe that I took the time to personally apologize to you because I thought maybe I was just being a little rough on the opinion of a passionate fan. I can see now that I blindsided myself into thinking so.

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Someone brought up a good point about how during the 6 years between English albums that Celine had experienced several miscarriages (I believe it was Luke). And while I myself have never experienced that or have a child I have witnessed my two sisters both go through misscarriages and still births and let me tell you it destroyed them. They were broken and depressed and didn't want to do anything for quite some time. I'm not claiming to know what Celine went through during her struggle to have the twins or that all women who experience misscarriages and stillbirths feel the same but to watch my one sister who wanted a child so desperately receive news that she was pregnant and then get past the "danger" period of the 1st trimester only to lose the baby in the 2nd trimester was horrifying and heart wrenching to see the emotional and mental turmoil she went through. The reason I am posting this is to simply say to expect Celine to carry on with her very much public career during that struggle is crazy.