karatedude317 Posted January 5, 2014 at 04:47 PM Posted January 5, 2014 at 04:47 PM Has this "single" been added to any radio stations yet? Idk how it's a single if it's not even out to radio stations yet. Has anybody heard it on USA radio stations? Quote
DionFanAlways Posted January 5, 2014 at 05:22 PM Posted January 5, 2014 at 05:22 PM Has this "single" been added to any radio stations yet? Idk how it's a single if it's not even out to radio stations yet. Has anybody heard it on USA radio stations?I haven't...... 2 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
LukeD Posted January 5, 2014 at 05:38 PM Posted January 5, 2014 at 05:38 PM (edited) That's right people keep having great ideas of music videos in your head because that's all we are gonna get! Hate to break it to everyone but the era of LMBTL album DIED when she she officially returned to Vegas for her winter shows. She doesn't have another break until late spring then back again to Vegas for the summer , and by that time the album will be a distant memory for Sony, Celine, Rene and 99.9% of the public, nobody to blame here except VEGAS and we better get used to it I guess since we have more 5 years of that s***.So if Celine decides to do nothing for the album during her first big break in mid January and then her second one during April her Vegas shows are to be blamed? Really? I think not. The blame (if we really have to put it on somebody/something) should be put on Celine and her team, since we are talking about the period when she won't be commited to Vegas. It is one thing to blame 'Vegas' for lack of promotion when she gives concerts there and another one to blame it when she's on a break. The first makes sense, the second not so much. Edited January 5, 2014 at 05:40 PM by LukeD 1 Quote
Popular Post dmeredith Posted January 5, 2014 at 05:42 PM Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 at 05:42 PM Ah, ten years from now, Loved Me Back to Life is going to be known as the least memorable album Celine has released, not to mention worst commercially successful and lazy beyond comprehension in terms of marketing. I have officially given up on her career. This is it: it's over. And however much I love Celine, she should be ashamed of herself. Yes, her family is her top priority right now, while her career takes a backseat (and I totally get that), but you'd think she'd give us (the people who have supported her all these years) some acknowledgement. What's one music video? I think we, as a collective fanbase, deserve one tiny music video (that's not a frigging live performance, or filmed in the effing desert). I may not be the post popular member on the forum after I hit the Post button, but doesn't anyone else feel that Celine isn't doing much - if anything at all - for her fans nowadays? I love her, and I always will, but I feel like I'm being taken for a ride. I'm not sure if you saw the video, that was on QVC, where Celine thanked all of us (her fans). She thanked us for being with her through the years, and that she hoped that we all like her new CD. She spoke about how much she loves singing. She said that the album was for us (her fans), because she would just be doing gigs (unplugged if that's the term) and concerts for the sake of singing if she was just keeping herself happy. So, I understand your frustration when it comes to not seeing at least one video from LMBTL (besides the live one from Quėbec). At this stage of her life, Celine has done a lot over 30 years. There might be some, where I work, who might like me to do certain things. I say, " I've done all that and more. It's not what I want to do anymore, and I'll continue to do it my way from now on until I retire." Celine has done tons of promo for SA and LMBTL. She has a different life now as opposed to the era before children. She might take her children with her when she's promoting, but perhaps not always. It's easier to promo without little children. Regardless as to whether it's easier, or not, it's difficult to leave behind your little ones. So, it's hard to take them with you, and it's difficult to leave them behind. It doesn't matter how much help you have with you. The whole ordeal requires a lot of work. I certainly understand how you feel. It's human nature for us all to want more from Celine. She spreads herself pretty thin trying to keep a lot of different people happy. I'm sure that she might be pulled in many directions, but she's older and wiser now. She's in charge of her career, and I believe we all come to that conclusion in our life at some point in time. It's called, getting tired of "the rat race", and realizing that you first have to take care of yourself if you want to be around for those you love. They deserve all that you can give. One might say, "I can run around in circles trying to keep others happy, but then how long will I stay healthy to enjoy quality time with my spouse, children and possibly grandchildren if I keep trying to just please others?" Everyone, including myself, would love for Celine to entertain us with something new each day. We have to be grateful for what we have received from Celine, and be satisfied for what we are getting. We don't understand everything that goes on behind the scenes. I wish that we did tho'!!!! So, it's okay to feel what you feel. I don't believe that what you've said should make you unpopular here on the forum. I feel grateful that Celine has made the last two CD's with all of the promoting. She continues to provide a venue for fans to go see her instead of retiring completely to a life of raising her children and enjoying what that kind of life provides since she definitely has the money to do that. Celine could just do little gigs here and there for the love of singing, which would keep her happy. The problem is that the majority of us wouldn't be able to go to all of them, so that we could hear her sing, all the time. I can tho' put in a CD or DVD, whenever I want, and listen to Celine's beautiful voice. I'm grateful that I have the opportunity to go see her in Vegas as well. So, Celine has done quite a bit. Her gift of thanks are what we have the opportunity to buy, called CD's / albums. As a fan, I'm willing to be grateful and I accept what she offers as her way of saying "Thank You"!!! 11 Quote
LuisMa Posted January 5, 2014 at 05:49 PM Posted January 5, 2014 at 05:49 PM Amen guurl!! Also, when I think about all the trials and tribulations she as most of us have gone or will go through, I'm happy she decided to go on, as she could as well have retired, but she never threw in the towel. I know she will surprise us with many good things... I think I've learned to be a bit patient in the last few years. In 2007 I was the fuming kind. But in the end, I know all of us want the best for her and for us, and that's fine. 4 Quote
LukeD Posted January 5, 2014 at 07:08 PM Posted January 5, 2014 at 07:08 PM (edited) Ah, ten years from now, Loved Me Back to Life is going to be known as the least memorable album Celine has released, not to mention worst commercially successful and lazy beyond comprehension in terms of marketing. I have officially given up on her career. This is it: it's over. And however much I love Celine, she should be ashamed of herself. Yes, her family is her top priority right now, while her career takes a backseat (and I totally get that), but you'd think she'd give us (the people who have supported her all these years) some acknowledgement. What's one music video? I think we, as a collective fanbase, deserve one tiny music video (that's not a frigging live performance, or filmed in the effing desert). I may not be the post popular member on the forum after I hit the Post button, but doesn't anyone else feel that Celine isn't doing much - if anything at all - for her fans nowadays? I love her, and I always will, but I feel like I'm being taken for a ride.What a total pile of crap! You gave up on her career? You shouldn't have hung on to her career in the first place you indescribable drama queen! Since when selling 1.5m copies of a French album in 2012 and holding your own against current singers who are at their commercial peak is a sign of a finished career? The woman sold almost 1.5m copies of her new album so far and it will definitely sell over 2m by the end of its run. 'Unison' needed a good 23 years to sell 3m and the sales of 'Miracle' still stand at 2.5m copies worldwide, it is rather a blatant fact that 'Loved Me Back To Life' is by no means her worst selling album. It is 2013, get a clue about what happens with album sales on a global scale. Then do your homework to see that the promotion (what you called 'marketing') for this album far exceeds the promotion she did for 'One Heart', 'Miracle', and even 'These Are Special Times'. As the fact that you're misinformed was not enough you had to go on and say Celine should be ashamed. I can't believe what my eyes read. As a matter of fact, the only person that should be feeling ashamed is you and that's because of that ridiculous post. You say you need acknowledgment? I say pull yourself together and achieve YOUR personal goals in YOUR life so that you don't feel the need to be 'acknowledged' by Celine Dion (or anyone else for that matter). I laugh at people like you who think they have built the career of their idols. Thinking Celine is who she is because of you makes you feel special, right? Maybe bigger too? Well, let me tell you you're a nobody for her. And rightfully so. She owes you nothing, you got her records for your own pleasure, you did no charity, hence there is no need for her to say 'Thank You'. You and others need to get a grip and understand we are not doing her any favor and this is why we have to pay money in order to get her stuff. To reply to your question... Celine is trying to balance everything: Family, live performances, concerts, album recordings, even in her recent album it is evident she is trying to appeal to/please everyone. The past 2 years alone she appeared in Quebec, US, Jamaica, Germany, China, Belgium, UK and France. Take a moment to realize there is no other act to release 2 entirely different full-length studio albums and pull off over 150 concerts. She is working more than anyone at a time in her life when she has more money than anyone. Indeed, you are not the most popular member here. And I just found out why. Edited January 5, 2014 at 07:27 PM by LukeD 2 Quote
Nmj Posted January 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM Posted January 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM So if Celine decides to do nothing for the album during her first big break in mid January and then her second one during April her Vegas shows are to be blamed? Really? I think not. The blame (if we really have to put it on somebody/something) should be put on Celine and her team, since we are talking about the period when she won't be commited to Vegas. It is one thing to blame 'Vegas' for lack of promotion when she gives concerts there and another one to blame it when she's on a break. The first makes sense, the second not so much. Hate to sound like a broken record but VEGAS (for me) is to blame for many of the "What ifs" of her career since 2003. She can't even perform a full length concert in the US because of their contract... VEGAS/AEG/CAESARS has had Celine by her "balls" since 2003! Maybe she likes that, maybe not but the fact is Vegas has caused more harm for international career than good but has done more good than harm for her pocket book. 2 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted January 5, 2014 at 11:21 PM Posted January 5, 2014 at 11:21 PM (edited) Ah, ten years from now, Loved Me Back to Life is going to be known as the least memorable album Celine has released, not to mention worst commercially successful and lazy beyond comprehension in terms of marketing. I have officially given up on her career. This is it: it's over. And however much I love Celine, she should be ashamed of herself. Yes, her family is her top priority right now, while her career takes a backseat (and I totally get that), but you'd think she'd give us (the people who have supported her all these years) some acknowledgement. What's one music video? I think we, as a collective fanbase, deserve one tiny music video (that's not a frigging live performance, or filmed in the effing desert). I may not be the post popular member on the forum after I hit the Post button, but doesn't anyone else feel that Celine isn't doing much - if anything at all - for her fans nowadays? I love her, and I always will, but I feel like I'm being taken for a ride. Why can't you just be a fan that enjoys her music? Rather than being a narcissistic jerk off?? What a total pile of crap! You gave up on her career? You shouldn't have hung on to her career in the first place you indescribable drama queen! Since when selling 1.5m copies of a French album in 2012 and holding your own against current singers who are at their commercial peak is a sign of a finished career? The woman sold almost 1.5m copies of her new album so far and it will definitely sell over 2m by the end of its run. 'Unison' needed a good 23 years to sell 3m and the sales of 'Miracle' still stand at 2.5m copies worldwide, it is rather a blatant fact that 'Loved Me Back To Life' is by no means her worst selling album. It is 2013, get a clue about what happens with album sales on a global scale. Then do your homework to see that the promotion (what you called 'marketing') for this album far exceeds the promotion she did for 'One Heart', 'Miracle', and even 'These Are Special Times'. As the fact that you're misinformed was not enough you had to go on and say Celine should be ashamed. I can't believe what my eyes read. As a matter of fact, the only person that should be feeling ashamed is you and that's because of that ridiculous post. You say you need acknowledgment? I say pull yourself together and achieve YOUR personal goals in YOUR life so that you don't feel the need to be 'acknowledged' by Celine Dion (or anyone else for that matter). I laugh at people like you who think they have built the career of their idols. Thinking Celine is who she is because of you makes you feel special, right? Maybe bigger too? Well, let me tell you you're a nobody for her. And rightfully so. She owes you nothing, you got her records for your own pleasure, you did no charity, hence there is no need for her to say 'Thank You'. You and others need to get a grip and understand we are not doing her any favor and this is why we have to pay money in order to get her stuff. To reply to your question... Celine is trying to balance everything: Family, live performances, concerts, album recordings, even in her recent album it is evident she is trying to appeal to/please everyone. The past 2 years alone she appeared in Quebec, US, Jamaica, Germany, China, Belgium, UK and France. Take a moment to realize there is no other act to release 2 entirely different full-length studio albums and pull off over 150 concerts. She is working more than anyone at a time in her life when she has more money than anyone. Indeed, you are not the most popular member here. And I just found out why. My god, I love you for this!! Hate to sound like a broken record but VEGAS (for me) is to blame for many of the "What ifs" of her career since 2003. She can't even perform a full length concert in the US because of their contract... VEGAS/AEG/CAESARS has had Celine by her "balls" since 2003! Maybe she likes that, maybe not but the fact is Vegas has caused more harm for international career than good but has done more good than harm for her pocket book. Nobody has Celine by the balls. This was her choice. Get over it. You can't live life asking "what if?" You have to make choices in life based on what is more important to you. Clearly, the way Celine has structured her life is more important for her. We shouldn't feel like we are owed anything as fans. If anything, we should be supportive of her. Edited January 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM by CelinesDIVO5 6 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Lu CelineFan Posted January 5, 2014 at 11:26 PM Posted January 5, 2014 at 11:26 PM I'm not sure if you saw the video, that was on QVC, where Celine thanked all of us (her fans). She thanked us for being with her through the years, and that she hoped that we all like her new CD. She spoke about how much she loves singing. She said that the album was for us (her fans), because she would just be doing gigs (unplugged if that's the term) and concerts for the sake of singing if she was just keeping herself happy. So, I understand your frustration when it comes to not seeing at least one video from LMBTL (besides the live one from Quėbec). At this stage of her life, Celine has done a lot over 30 years. There might be some, where I work, who might like me to do certain things. I say, " I've done all that and more. It's not what I want to do anymore, and I'll continue to do it my way from now on until I retire." Celine has done tons of promo for SA and LMBTL. She has a different life now as opposed to the era before children. She might take her children with her when she's promoting, but perhaps not always. It's easier to promo without little children. Regardless as to whether it's easier, or not, it's difficult to leave behind your little ones. So, it's hard to take them with you, and it's difficult to leave them behind. It doesn't matter how much help you have with you. The whole ordeal requires a lot of work. I certainly understand how you feel. It's human nature for us all to want more from Celine. She spreads herself pretty thin trying to keep a lot of different people happy. I'm sure that she might be pulled in many directions, but she's older and wiser now. She's in charge of her career, and I believe we all come to that conclusion in our life at some point in time. It's called, getting tired of "the rat race", and realizing that you first have to take care of yourself if you want to be around for those you love. They deserve all that you can give. One might say, "I can run around in circles trying to keep others happy, but then how long will I stay healthy to enjoy quality time with my spouse, children and possibly grandchildren if I keep trying to just please others?" Everyone, including myself, would love for Celine to entertain us with something new each day. We have to be grateful for what we have received from Celine, and be satisfied for what we are getting. We don't understand everything that goes on behind the scenes. I wish that we did tho'!!!! So, it's okay to feel what you feel. I don't believe that what you've said should make you unpopular here on the forum. I feel grateful that Celine has made the last two CD's with all of the promoting. She continues to provide a venue for fans to go see her instead of retiring completely to a life of raising her children and enjoying what that kind of life provides since she definitely has the money to do that. Celine could just do little gigs here and there for the love of singing, which would keep her happy. The problem is that the majority of us wouldn't be able to go to all of them, so that we could hear her sing, all the time. I can tho' put in a CD or DVD, whenever I want, and listen to Celine's beautiful voice. I'm grateful that I have the opportunity to go see her in Vegas as well. So, Celine has done quite a bit. Her gift of thanks are what we have the opportunity to buy, called CD's / albums. As a fan, I'm willing to be grateful and I accept what she offers as her way of saying "Thank You"!!! Loved your words. So much wisdom.As a woman (even not having children) I completely understand Celine. And I love her much more because of this, because the person who she is. To put a human being in the world and to raise s/he properly is the biggest thing one person can do.When John Lennon stopped with The Beatles and stayed at home to take care of his son, nobody got it. What a huge thing, what a huge man! Celine is just this way, beyond the average people. She´s blessed, she´s iluminated. It takes time to understand some things in life. For me, the average citizen that is an example as a person worths much more than a hero that has no integrity. 5 Quote Team Céline Dion Brazil@lu_celinefan
Popular Post QueenCeline87 Posted January 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM Popular Post Posted January 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM As much as I would love a video from this album ( we all would ) , if we don't get one I won't throw my toys out of the pram and say her career is over or she doesn't care about her fans! Celine sacrificed a lot in her personal life early in career to achieve the success she has! So now if she doesn't want to shoot a video , she's perfectly within her rights to do so!She doesn't owe us anything! Now is the time in her life where she has achieved enough to be able to sit back and enjoy her life, her family! She loves her fans , she says it enough and shows it ( spending time outside her hotels autographing , taking photos etc) we don't need a music video to show us that! 8 Quote http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-RQtOAL6F2I/TAZl-_MB2AI/AAAAAAAAAiI/bkJK6a44q3o/s1600/celine-dion-goodbyes-the-saddest-word.jpg
dmeredith Posted January 6, 2014 at 12:49 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 12:49 AM As much as I would love a video from this album ( we all would ) , if we don't get one I won't throw my toys out of the pram and say her career is over or she doesn't care about her fans! Celine sacrificed a lot in her personal life early in career to achieve the success she has! So now if she doesn't want to shoot a video , she's perfectly within her rights to do so!She doesn't owe us anything! Now is the time in her life where she has achieved enough to be able to sit back and enjoy her life, her family! She loves her fans , she says it enough and shows it ( spending time outside her hotels autographing , taking photos etc) we don't need a music video to show us that! So very true!! I hope Celine never hears the complaints. After spending so much time signing autographs etc. etc. etc. I would think she would be heartbroken to hear them. She deserves a standing ovation!! She's one amazing woman!! 6 Quote
Nmj Posted January 6, 2014 at 12:53 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 12:53 AM (edited) Why can't you just be a fan that enjoys her music? Rather than being a narcissistic jerk off?? My god, I love you for this!! Nobody has Celine by the balls. This was her choice. Get over it. You can't live life asking "what if?" You have to make choices in life based on what is more important to you. Clearly, the way Celine has structured her life is more important for her. We shouldn't feel like we are owed anything as fans. If anything, we should be supportive of her. We are all entitled to our own opinion. And my opinion is they have her so hard by the "balls" that it helps her hit the high notes. Edited January 6, 2014 at 12:56 AM by Nmj 1 Quote
nuts2you Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:14 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:14 AM This topic just bring tears to my eyes after reading what everyone has said. I agree with all of you, 1 Quote
Javito Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:19 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:19 AM (edited) Dorfus opinion is harsh, but so frank. Honestly, I can't help but laughing at some of the replies that some of you have posted, opinions which seem to come more from a fanatic point of view than from an impartial fan. What some of you keep constantly saying about Céline's life everytime that someone criticises the lack of support that her albums got today is just PLAIN ridiculous at this point, at least in the way you say it. Puliiiiizeee, Céline Dion IS NOT the only human being who is a mother of 3 in this world and has a job. Céline Dion is not the only woman for whom life changes when she is a mother. She is NOT the only mother of 3 children who has to find balance in the world between her job and her family. Only the way you defend her for that just makes me roll on the floor laughing out loud. You treat Celine like some kind of "saint" or "martyr" only because she has been working since very young and now because she has 3 children. Honestly. For God's sake, how many women in this world have been working their #ss off since 14 years old and have had founded their families and raised their children too? :rolleyes: Céline is not the only one, hello?????And I do get Dorfus point: if Celine wants to keep releasing albums today, please do it properly and defend them. At least for respect to all the many people involved in them. Don't go to TV selling your "I-couldn't-care-less-about-being-here" attitude because that's not doing her any favour, even if she doesn't need to prove anything anymore (but at least pretend you do!).What Dorfus is saying is that if what we're going to get from now on in the future are albums that are inmediately forgotten after the first single, interviews where Céline says that she doesn't care to be there and that she only cares to be at home with her children, and albums whose songs are not going to be performed a single time in her concerts (except the lead single) because they're not even getting due support from the record label to do a miserable videoclip, maybe its time to quit. God forbid, but it's been a decade since Céline is clearly more in the performing thing than what concerns her album promotions and defending the new material she releases in them. This is not something new we've discovered with LMBTL, its been happening since 2003 and since she's stagnated in her 90's success and the songs that gave her the success she achieved in the 90's. So I do understand Dorfus frustration. And last but not least, what you say about Celine "not owing us anything" is just stupid. Céline is where she is BECAUSE OF THE FANS. And as long as she isn't doing private concerts exclusively, she has a career and a public image that is owed to her public, and especially, she has STILL an international career of which she should take care of. Unless she really doesn't care at all about that matter, so then its when that career will start declining. So yes, she owes us a lot of things. She does not owe anything to a fan with a name and surname, but the general public, which is who put her where she is. She has not a regular job, she is a singer, and that means working for the public and in some way, be at their mercy. She has had the greatest luck with that public, which has always welcomed her so well like she usually admits. And she has worked incredibly hard to earn that public, but she's not idiot. Simply because she is a singer and singer is a job which involves working face to public and working with their emotions, she perfectly knows that a person with a job of that kind is TOTALLY owed to that public! (Until the singer retires, of course). That's why she sings autographs, and that's why she spends loads of time signing autographs, because she's the most charming, attentive and grateful singer out there ( ), but at the same time she's the most humble singer and she doesn't take for granted all that people waiting for her hours outside her hotel and concerts: those are the people who has helped her to be where she is, all the way! Edit: also here's an extremely important point to take into account: we don't know why we are not getting any videoclips with this album, or why they have not sent a second single to radios worldwide (though we can figure out why), but as long as they don't speak openly about this (and they won't), we won't know. However, we know that since 2003, things have changed a lot with her album promotions and the way Sony promotes Céline, compared to how they promoted her albums before 2002. It's been already enough albums in which they stop promotion after the first single, this is not new. So if there's any kind of problem between Céline and Sony, and things are not turning out the way both parts woud like (which is clear at this point), why the hell Céline doesn't change of record label???!!! Is that hard to do? This is what we should be wondering ourselves, and what's going on for Céline to stay with Sony when its pretty clear they're not doing their best with her albums Edited January 6, 2014 at 01:43 AM by Javito 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
dj4celine Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:23 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:23 AM WARNING: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS on other members. If anyone is found doing this, warning points shall be issued. 3 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:31 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:31 AM (edited) Puliiiiizeee, Céline Dion IS NOT the only human being who is a mother of 3 in this world and has a job. Céline Dion is not the only woman for whom life changes when she is a mother. She is NOT the only mother of 3 children who has to find balance in the world between her job and her family. Only the way you defend her for that just makes me roll on the floor laughing out loud. You treat Celine like some kind of "saint" or "martyr" only because she has been working since very young and now because she has 3 children. Honestly. For God's sake, how many women in this world have been working their #ss off since 14 years old and have had founded their families and raised their children too? :rolleyes: Céline is not the only one, hello????? Yes I do agree with you on this point. Plus she has the financial means to do so. "Hire someone to do it!" I believe she once said. Edited January 6, 2014 at 01:32 AM by DionFanAlways 2 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
Lu CelineFan Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:40 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:40 AM Javito, I understand and respect your and Dorfus´ opinions. But please, respect the point of view of the others too, don´t mock about it. Yes I am fanatic. "Impartial fan" doesn´t exist since fan comes from latim "Fanaticus", other way you can be an impartial admiror It´s true a lot of women struggles with career and family but this does not diminish Celine. I understand what you mean, she earns lots of money so she should do more, give more.And that´s ok you feel this way. It´s ok the way I and others feel. There´s no right, no wrong. 3 Quote Team Céline Dion Brazil@lu_celinefan
Javito Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:50 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:50 AM Javito, I understand and respect your and Dorfus´ opinions. But please, respect the point of view of the others too, don´t mock about it. Yes I am fanatic. "Impartial fan" doesn´t exist since fan comes from latim "Fanaticus", other way you can be an impartial admiror It´s true a lot of women struggles with career and family but this does not diminish Celine. I understand what you mean, she earns lots of money so she should do more, give more.And that´s ok you feel this way. It´s ok the way I and others feel. There´s no right, no wrong. Exactly! There are no whites or blacks here, there can be greys. That's why I can't stand when someone tries to silence other people's opinion personally attacking his/her life, or even saying "you're a jerk" :glare: . Sorry CelinesDivo, but you finished to portray yourself very well with your recent post here Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
c4n4d4 Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:52 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:52 AM Exactly! There are no whites or blacks here, there can be greys. That's why I can't stand when someone tries to silence other people's opinion personally attacking his/her life, or even saying "you're a jerk" :glare: . Sorry CelinesDivo, but you finished to portray yourself very well with your recent post here You just said it's wrong to personally attack someone and then went personally attacked CelineDivo in the next sentence. 2 Quote http://24.media.tumblr.com/5fc8ed1dcd8690c2a8e2cad08629e4ba/tumblr_mrwbegFInv1rothmmo1_500.jpgJanuary 5, 2013 -- Las Vegas August 18, 2013 -- Las Vegas
Javito Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:54 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 01:54 AM You just said it's wrong to personally attack someone and then went personally attacked CelineDivo in the next sentence. Oh where's the personal attack, please? Because I said that he has insulted another member? Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Popular Post LuisMa Posted January 6, 2014 at 02:00 AM Popular Post Posted January 6, 2014 at 02:00 AM Only two things I'll say: It's great to analyze contrasting opinions from which you can learn a lot, but all is unfortunately lost when you resort to attacks and disrespectful comments towards others who share the same passion. I have Celine as my idol, but still I know as a human being she has flaws and I don't see her as the saint, nor as the Mega woman who can do it all, but after four words: cancer, fertility issues and death, she chose life while not resigning to what she's repeatedly said she was going to do until the end, and that's pretty Incredible. 8 Quote
Popular Post chocolatechip15 Posted January 6, 2014 at 02:19 AM Popular Post Posted January 6, 2014 at 02:19 AM A few responses to this discussion: 1) Yes, lots of people have 3 children and work, and ALL of them are making some sort of sacrifice. If Celine chooses to put spending time with her children first (not something you can hire other people to do, no matter how much money you have) and to make sacrifices in terms of her career -- that's her right and she's lucky enough to have the financial stability to make this choice. Other people choose to sacrifice time with their children and prioritize their career -- as Rene did with his first three children when they were small. I respect Celine's decision to prioritize time with her children -- and I think it's a decision that overall gives her a happier life. That's not the same as making her a saint or a martyr. It's just saying that a working mother of twin toddlers and a preteen is going to have a limited amount of time. 2) I don't think Celine owes any of us anything. She's already given so much to the world with her music and shows. She could choose to retire completely and focus on her family or anything else, and that would be fine. I'd say the only time she owes fans anything is when people are paying money to see a particular show or buy a particular album -- and, in those cases, she virutally always delivers tremendously well. 3) I, too, would love to see a music video, and I don't understand either why there's not one. But the fact that we don't know the reason doesn't mean there's not a good reason. And I think it's just totally untrue to say the album and the marketing are lazy and Celine's been doing nothing. When the album first came out, there was widespread agreement on this forum that it was her best album since ANDHC. Her voice is in incredible shape, and she has a lot of fresh, modern songs with current songwriters, a duet with one of the biggest current artists, as well as some songs more like what she's traditionally sung, and a duet with an older artist, to appeal to her more traditional fanbase. I don't know why the album didn't catch on in the US, but honestly I think Celine's been doing a tremendous amount of work. This is just some of her promo work for LMBTL:Three-day massive press junket with journalists from around the world where she gave non-stop (probably annoyingly repetitive) short interviews for three days; appearances on Ellen, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Larry King's new show, Dr. Oz, Today show, CBS This Morning,Access Hollywood, The View, Extra, X Factor UK, Strictly Come Dancing; the Jonathan Ross show, Wetten Das, QVC special; hosting Home for the Holidays special, appearing on The Voice, and the amazing intimate NYC concert, with both fans and lots of journalists to try to create buzz. I understand there are things fans would like to be different -- but to call Celine's promo lazy when she's made at least 17 TV appearances, plus an amazing intimate concert, plus a stretch of 8 beautiful French-language concerts, plus going back to perform in Vegas, all the while parenting 3 young children -- I think she's amazing. 10 Quote
Prima_Donna1 Posted January 6, 2014 at 02:39 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 02:39 AM Honestly, if Celine wants to put family first than she should drop Sony, Vegas and all of that and retire. She may not owe me anything but its sad that she keeps sitting on her talents as well. Sorry just an opinion. I just think that she should quit if its not sooo important. 2 Quote Apprends-Moi tes Secrets...http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy180/miss_daly2881/post-1110-0-56076900-1358706235_thumb.jpg
mike_z Posted January 6, 2014 at 02:50 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 02:50 AM Exactly, u can't blame her for not promoting her own album. You can only blame her for lip-synching her signature songs ONLY IF you actually bought a ticket to see her live. There should be a legend on the program stating that some of the songs might be synched, especially when you're expecting a live performance from the one and only Céline Dion. Otherwise it's sort of deceitful 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted January 6, 2014 at 04:23 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 04:23 AM (edited) Dorfus, I apologize for calling you a J/O. It was tasteless. We are all entitled to our opinion. Anyway, I have decided that I will not be posting for awhile guys. I'm just over all the arguing, and being made to feel that my words and other people's words don't matter to certain people that need to try and have the last word, even if it means twisting their own words in order to do so. I've enjoyed the good times. The anticipation of LMBTL was exciting to experience with you all. I made a couple of really nice friends on here that I will keep in touch with via Facebook. If you feel you would like to stay in contact, feel free to PM me and I will link you to my personal Facebook account. Take care, everyone!! Matthew Edited January 6, 2014 at 04:23 AM by CelinesDIVO5 4 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
LuisMa Posted January 6, 2014 at 06:52 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 06:52 AM Yes, I am also gonna go. There's a big irony lying in the fact that we were a couple days ago saying Happy New Year and wishing the best to all and to the singer, and now the drama and disrespect ensues again, not to mention the bad intentions. After calling people ugly, dumb, ridiculous, delusional, etcetera in a public place, look at the mirror. Do you like what you see? It's easy to sit behind a computer and spew all those things. I wonder if you're man or woman enough to tell them straight into the person's eyes. Or at least you can do as Matt: man up and apologize. That's really amazing. But this fight and arguing about something that has been debated a million times and never leads to anywhere is tiring, and when people are hurt in the middle it is totally unwanted and unacceptable. And this is one of the reasons why I stopped my forum donations and participation five years ago. I was not the only one... Take care y'all! 6 Quote
Javito Posted January 6, 2014 at 08:20 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 08:20 AM (edited) Céline's promotion is not lazy at all, Sony Music IS. I've never said or thought that the promotion she's done was lazy, in fact she's done the best promotion she could since many albums ago, and she has presented the lead single in every TV show she could both in the US and also in UK/France. The proof of this is that we have loads of performances of LMBTL. However, what is unacceptable is that Sony Music stops it all when the time for a second single arrives. This happened also with Taking Chances album, so its not new. When you have a "trending" singer like Ne-Yo in your album for a duet song, which is like having hot chocolate for an album today, and you don't release that song internationally and make a good videoclip to promote it, something is not working right. Something is failing between Sony and Celine. And then is why the following question arises: why she doesn't leave Sony Music and signs to another record label, which manages her promotion in a better way after the first single?? That's the key. They work their heart out only for the first single, and then they forget about the album. And in a very big part, I'm sure that Sony stops the promotion for one simple reason: because of Vegas. They know she comes back to Vegas once she has promoted the first single of each new album and that it will be hard to count on her to do more promo for the second and next singles, so they quit. That's why every album has been enjoying a very short life since 2003 Edited January 6, 2014 at 08:30 AM by Javito Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
MalaysiaCeline Posted January 6, 2014 at 09:55 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 09:55 AM i think Celine is doing a GREAT job in promoting LMBTL where Beyonce releasing the latest album with 14 new MTV ......so Celine doing it differently where she's releasing 13 tracks LMBTL album with NO....is NO.....NO ....NO music video at all...........she ruled the music industry and knowing what would be the trend.....so she is doing it the other way round....applause to QUEEN Celine...... 3 Quote http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/29945/2002084162406147433_rs.jpg "Taking Chances"...All Malaysian pls standby for the best album release in the year of 2007....
Xpresso Posted January 6, 2014 at 10:55 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 10:55 AM There aren't that many albums nowadays with a very long life. Sony is a company looking to make money. So they invest the least amount of money hoping for a good profit... That's what they are doing with Celine's album.And Celine is NOT the person who decides if there is a video or not for a new single. If Sony decides to invest money in a music video, don't worry Celine will be there. 3 Quote
donpi86 Posted January 6, 2014 at 11:04 AM Posted January 6, 2014 at 11:04 AM I think it is much more simply that all of that things.... There is only one reason why Celine doesn't make a music video for this album... very simple... BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.... It's not because she is a busy mother (of course she isn't) it's not because Sony doesn't want to invest money in a music video (of course they have enough money for one, or two or three music videos for Celine) It is as simple as lack of interest in doing it... and it can be wrong or good... (for me totally wrong) but if they only think in a music video as Celine mimic with diva posses... well.. it is good they didn't make anything... if they are not going to use the music videos as a minimun of artistic expression... This album has been a good success and it could have had at least two music videos but they didn't want to do it... and it is obvious that some fans gets pissed off.... "now come to me in an interview and tell me you want to be an actress... yes... of course...." and you are not able to act in a single video.... But this is about music and even they have been almost 4 years recording this simple 14 tracks album, at the end it is a good album and we have seen a lot of tv performances... including DKL and BA... This is what Celine probably wants... Tv performances with being mother interviews... if we want to be fans of Celine.. this is what we should get used to... If I want to see music videos artistics experiences I go to youtube and look for Lana del Rey, Gaga, Beyoncé, Woodkid, Alt-J and a very long etc... 1 Quote
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