CelinesDIVO5 Posted April 9, 2014 at 03:54 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 03:54 PM Well..Celine could have that Cher-moment because lmbtl still had great potential! I am absolutely sure that if the djs gave her a chance, this could have been a big hit. It is that current sound that Rihanna and Miley have( yes i do not like her either) .It is not only to blame on Sony. First of all, djs do not take her serious,that is the main problem. What I'm saying is that Cher had that moment in 1998/99 because the divas were still everywhere. Celine, Mariah and Whitney were still being played on top 40 in heavy rotation. Cher caught the tail end of the diva popularity with "Believe." When Whitney released her last album in 2009, top 40 radio didn't play her, and it was one of the most anticipated and highly publicized releases of the year. Not to mention, that it wasn't a terrible album and had a few awesome songs that were radio friendly. The demand for divas just isn't there anymore, no matter how cool or fresh the sound of their songs are. Cher's new songs aren't being played on top 40 either. The top 40 demographic just doesn't want them anymore. 5 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Popular Post Xpresso Posted April 9, 2014 at 04:18 PM Popular Post Posted April 9, 2014 at 04:18 PM Top 40 radios don't generally play women over 40. No wonder it's called TOP 40!! 10 Quote
CelineDionFreak Posted April 9, 2014 at 04:20 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 04:20 PM (edited) Top 40 radios don't generally play women over 40. No wonder it's called TOP 40!! LOL! Edited April 9, 2014 at 04:20 PM by CelineDionFreak Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
MrTim212 Posted April 9, 2014 at 05:04 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 05:04 PM I totally understand everyone wanting Celine to do well and everything, but why can't we just enjoy the album as an album instead of thinking about "what could have been" if Sony did this, or if Sony did that? It's a fantastic album, and for being released in November still became of the best selling female albums in 2013. That's still a big deal. Celine's just not going to have another hey day like Cher did. Cher caught the tail end of the diva train with "Believe." It was a right place, right time kind of situation. We all know Celine is still the best. We are all also used to things being postponed. I say just sit back and enjoy "Loved Me Back To Life." We waited too long for it to spend our time b*tching and moaning bout it's "lack of promo" or it's "less than stellar" sales figures. I wouldn't call this b*tching and moaning, I would call it critical feedback on the LMBTL era. Yes, the album is amazing. But also, the promo has been really lackluster. "Lack of promo" and "less than stellar sales figures" will mean less push or urgency for Céline to get back in the studio and record more music which means we'll probably we waiting more than 6 years for her next English album. LTAL wasn't supposed to happen until FIY was such a huge success and they got her back in the studio to release a follow up. If this album had provided a bit of a resurgence in her career (that it COULD have had given the response from "The Voice" performance), there would be more singles, more videos, etc. They would potentially be planning to be back in the studio next year to record the follow-up to LMBTL or SA or both. Now, they can't seem to release a video that is COMPLETE and promo is basically over in the US and is "quiet" at best elsewhere. 2 Quote je me changerai en or pour que tu m'aimes encore
CelinesDIVO5 Posted April 9, 2014 at 05:20 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 05:20 PM I wouldn't call this b*tching and moaning, I would call it critical feedback on the LMBTL era. Yes, the album is amazing. But also, the promo has been really lackluster. "Lack of promo" and "less than stellar sales figures" will mean less push or urgency for Céline to get back in the studio and record more music which means we'll probably we waiting more than 6 years for her next English album. LTAL wasn't supposed to happen until FIY was such a huge success and they got her back in the studio to release a follow up. If this album had provided a bit of a resurgence in her career (that it COULD have had given the response from "The Voice" performance), there would be more singles, more videos, etc. They would potentially be planning to be back in the studio next year to record the follow-up to LMBTL or SA or both. Now, they can't seem to release a video that is COMPLETE and promo is basically over in the US and is "quiet" at best elsewhere. But if we're going by what you are saying, then she would have stopped recording in English after "One Heart" which sold almost 5 million less worldwide than ANDHC, and then "Taking Chances" sold almost 2 millon less than "One Heart." Now LMBTL has sold about 2 million less than "Taking Chances." There wasn't a weaker sense of urgency to record LMBTL because it took 6 years to release or because of the lower sales of "Taking Chances." Celine went on a year long world tour after releasing "Taking Chances" AND a 5 year run in Vegas. She then took a break to have the twins, while there were already talks of recording a new album back in 2010. That's only 3 years after "Taking Chances" was released, and only 1 year after she came off the tour. They came up with the rumored "nightgown" concept, and then Celine was put on bed rest during her pregnancy and then she started her new show in 2011. Then they started to record the album, and came up with the "Water and a Flame" concept in 2012...they postponed the album until 2013 that September, because again, the concept of the album changed. The length of time that it took to release this album had absolutely nothing to do with lackluster sales of the previous albums she put out. Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
GoldenLeaf Posted April 9, 2014 at 06:16 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 06:16 PM (edited) Top 40 radios don't generally play women over 40. No wonder it's called TOP 40!! So true! Top 40 radios play women over 40 only if they're duetting with younger singers like Pitbull and Nicki Minaj. Edited April 9, 2014 at 06:16 PM by GoldenLeaf 1 Quote
Nando Férri Posted April 9, 2014 at 07:07 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 07:07 PM So true! Top 40 radios play women over 40 only if they're duetting with younger singers like Pitbull and Nicki Minaj....Or Ne-yo. Wait! 1 Quote http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ejungtQy1r9swpco6_250.gif
GoldenLeaf Posted April 9, 2014 at 07:55 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 07:55 PM (edited) ...Or Ne-yo. Wait!Ne-Yo doesn't have the ''Hit'' power that Pitbull has. Sure Ne-Yo can score a Top10 Hit once in a while (as a lead artist he only scored 3 Top10 Hits during the past 6 years) but that's pretty much all. His duets with Celine, Mariah Carey, Cassandra Steen and Jennifer Hudson went nowhere. Edited April 9, 2014 at 07:57 PM by GoldenLeaf 2 Quote
amelie Posted April 9, 2014 at 09:33 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 09:33 PM Ne-Yo doesn't have the ''Hit'' power that Pitbull has. Sure Ne-Yo can score a Top10 Hit once in a while (as a lead artist he only scored 3 Top10 Hits during the past 6 years) but that's pretty much all. His duets with Celine, Mariah Carey, Cassandra Steen and Jennifer Hudson went nowhere. you're forgetting Rihanna Quote
uk28uk28 Posted April 9, 2014 at 09:41 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 09:41 PM She is doing a Beyonce, all the videos at the same time. Ahahaha excellent! Quote
celinecolombian Posted April 9, 2014 at 09:42 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 09:42 PM Celine is focusing on her family. She has 3 young children & an older husband recovering from cancer surgery. She did a substantial amount of promoting in the fall & is now taking time to be with her family. And I'm glad. Of course I'd like to see more promotion, but I think the best thing for her now is to be with her family & enjoy this time. I think we all need to take a step back & think about the bigger picture here. Well, you're totally right and I apologize if I was rude. Truth is that maybe Rene is done with his job as her manager, I don't want to be disrespectful but he should acknowledge that... 2 Quote
Shaun Posted April 9, 2014 at 10:42 PM Posted April 9, 2014 at 10:42 PM It's a genuine shame it has turned out this way. Probably since the "Miracle" days many of us have been crying out for a "young hip" collaboration. We finally got it and it appears Sony lost all faith when the song didn't rocket after The Voice appearance. A genuine shame but perhaps time to move on from "Incredible." Quote Bringing you the world's only Celine Dion podcast show since 2014.Find us on Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & Amazon Music.
SuperLove4Celine Posted April 10, 2014 at 01:08 AM Posted April 10, 2014 at 01:08 AM It's a genuine shame it has turned out this way. Probably since the "Miracle" days many of us have been crying out for a "young hip" collaboration. We finally got it and it appears Sony lost all faith when the song didn't rocket after The Voice appearance. A genuine shame but perhaps time to move on from "Incredible." I agree with the above bold statement. I'd like to see the fans start concentrating their efforts on "Somebody Loves Somebody." That way, it will hopefully become a successful Summer single. Plus, I think it could work great in her Vegas show if done right. (Yes, I'm going to sound like a broken record for a while. LOL) Quote
MrTim212 Posted April 10, 2014 at 02:22 AM Posted April 10, 2014 at 02:22 AM But if we're going by what you are saying, then she would have stopped recording in English after "One Heart" which sold almost 5 million less worldwide than ANDHC, and then "Taking Chances" sold almost 2 millon less than "One Heart." Now LMBTL has sold about 2 million less than "Taking Chances." There wasn't a weaker sense of urgency to record LMBTL because it took 6 years to release or because of the lower sales of "Taking Chances." Celine went on a year long world tour after releasing "Taking Chances" AND a 5 year run in Vegas. She then took a break to have the twins, while there were already talks of recording a new album back in 2010. That's only 3 years after "Taking Chances" was released, and only 1 year after she came off the tour. They came up with the rumored "nightgown" concept, and then Celine was put on bed rest during her pregnancy and then she started her new show in 2011. Then they started to record the album, and came up with the "Water and a Flame" concept in 2012...they postponed the album until 2013 that September, because again, the concept of the album changed. The length of time that it took to release this album had absolutely nothing to do with lackluster sales of the previous albums she put out. Oh come on Matt, the album was done a year before it was released with exception of LMBTL and maybe one or two other songs. That's a fact. The only reason for postponing it was because the label didn't care. I'm all for supporting Céline, but let's be realistic. Sony doesn't care about her career anymore. "Talk of recording an album in 2010" means NOTHING if she doesn't actually record. 1 Quote je me changerai en or pour que tu m'aimes encore
MrTim212 Posted April 10, 2014 at 02:23 AM Posted April 10, 2014 at 02:23 AM It's a genuine shame it has turned out this way. Probably since the "Miracle" days many of us have been crying out for a "young hip" collaboration. We finally got it and it appears Sony lost all faith when the song didn't rocket after The Voice appearance. A genuine shame but perhaps time to move on from "Incredible." "Incredible" is over. 1 Quote je me changerai en or pour que tu m'aimes encore
Popular Post CelinesDIVO5 Posted April 10, 2014 at 08:50 AM Popular Post Posted April 10, 2014 at 08:50 AM Oh come on Matt, the album was done a year before it was released with exception of LMBTL and maybe one or two other songs. That's a fact. The only reason for postponing it was because the label didn't care. I'm all for supporting Céline, but let's be realistic. Sony doesn't care about her career anymore. "Talk of recording an album in 2010" means NOTHING if she doesn't actually record. She was put on bed rest because of the twins in 2010 if you remember. She said her doctors even told her not to sing because it could have caused early contractions. So, if she could have recorded in 2010, she would have as planned. I really don't think it's that Sony doesn't care. She's been at it for over 30 years. Most singers start to pull back a bit after so much time. Bette Midler's last studio album was in 2006, and it was a holiday album...Cher's last album before this one was in 2002, Faith Hill, who was popular when Celine was hasn't released an album since 2008. Celine is not the only one out of her contemporaries to have gaps between albums. Not to mention everything she has done in between "Taking Chances" and "LMBTL." Yes, the album was done a year before it's release...but when presented to Sony, they clearly didn't like the concept...so they had to go back and do more work. Was it worth the wait? In my opinion yes...it's a well put together album and she sounds fantastic. Plus, if you think about it, 6 years really is not a long time for an active artist who is no longer at the top to release an album. Especially when her personal priorities are elsewhere. 8 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
CSCfan Posted April 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM Oh come on Matt, the album was done a year before it was released with exception of LMBTL and maybe one or two other songs. That's a fact. The only reason for postponing it was because the label didn't care. I'm all for supporting Céline, but let's be realistic. Sony doesn't care about her career anymore. "Talk of recording an album in 2010" means NOTHING if she doesn't actually record. Although I agree with Sony not caring enough about Céline's career, this is not true. The reason for the postponement(s) was in fact (next to Céline having twins) because they DID care. Remember the original (boring) plan and concept was that the album would include 6 Vegas covers and 6 new songs. And if it were for Céline's team, that would've been the case. Except that Sony didn't like it and pushed for an all new original album, which resulted in the delays because they were searching for new songs. And I'm talking about purely the album itself and not about the promotion. 6 Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
manu23 Posted April 10, 2014 at 01:10 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 01:10 PM Sony cares about Celine's career, there are things that could have been done better of course, but even Sony can't make miracles. Many current artists would kill for LMBTL album promotion: Ellen, the Voice finale, UK's most watched tv shows, one of the biggest tv shows in Germany, an excellent promo in France, etc.. what else do you want? Right, there wasn't a videoclip for LMBTL song, but Sony is a business, they have a limit budget and they must make decisions, if they knew that investing in TV promotion would be more profitable than spending money on videos or paying radios to play her (what we know for sure wasn't going to happen even paying) that's what they did, and it worked out, not in the US though, they must rethink the strategy there, but overall the result was as expected. I know it is sad to see a perfect song and single like LMBTL being neglected by radios, but Sony or Celine herself can't do nothing about it... Mariah's album will be out in a couple of weeks, you will see then how healthy Celine's career is compare to her peers 5 Quote
Xpresso Posted April 10, 2014 at 01:20 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 01:20 PM We have to get used to getting albums every 5 years or so.Singers who are still building their careers need to release albums more often... but old timers don't...Because let's face it, money is not in albums anymore (except for a few exceptions like Adele).Albums = Shows = Money 2 Quote
Cuquito Posted April 10, 2014 at 03:51 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 03:51 PM Not having a LMBTL video was the biggest disappointment for me ever. That hurt a lot. Whatever they do with Incredible now I really don't care. 5 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted April 10, 2014 at 05:49 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 05:49 PM Not having a LMBTL video was the biggest disappointment for me ever. That hurt a lot. For me also, I'll never understand that move..... 3 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
Peppercorn1991 Posted April 10, 2014 at 06:12 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 06:12 PM Im quite annoyed about the Video for LMBTL too........ Ive had to let it drop... Stupid Stupid Move! Think ill always miss the video as i really do love the song Kev x 4 Quote
amelie Posted April 10, 2014 at 08:39 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 08:39 PM (edited) Im quite annoyed about the Video for LMBTL too........ Ive had to let it drop... Stupid Stupid Move! Think ill always miss the video as i really do love the song Kev x imo it would have been ok if they had released Incredible video and single, the week of the album's release besides LMBTL had a fine Lyric video which has less than 300.000 views... Edited April 10, 2014 at 08:40 PM by amelie 1 Quote
Bruno Portugal Posted April 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM Incredible wait... Quote My Webpage >>> TRIBUTE TO CELINE DION
DionFanAlways Posted April 10, 2014 at 11:26 PM Posted April 10, 2014 at 11:26 PM Incredible wait... I hope I live to see it 4 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
CelineDionFreak Posted April 11, 2014 at 12:37 AM Posted April 11, 2014 at 12:37 AM I hope I live to see it Both are funny 1 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
anewdayhascome Posted April 11, 2014 at 10:48 AM Posted April 11, 2014 at 10:48 AM another week has gone byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy aaaaaa.... we should start counting, it'd be something opposite to the cutdown till a release - a cutup! 3 Quote A New Day... 10th & 11th November 2006 Taking Chances World Tour, Antwerp 13th & 14th May 2008, Kraków 28th June 2008 Celine 25th & 27th & 31st August 2013 20th, 23rd, 24th, 27th & 28th September 2016 Sans attendre Tour, Paris 1st & 5th December 2013 Encore un soir, Paris 24th, 25th, 28th, 29th June & 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th, 9th July 2016 Live 2017 Stockholm 17th June 2017 Lille 1st & 2nd July 2017 Paris 8th & 9th July 2017 Berlin 23rd & 24th July 2017 Live 2018 Taipei 11th & 13th July 2018 Manila 19th July 2018 Bangkok 23rd July 2018 BST Hyde Park London 5 July 2019
CelineDionFreak Posted April 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM Posted April 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM another week has gone byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy aaaaaa.... we should start counting, it'd be something opposite to the cutdown till a release - a cutup! Wooooow Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
Kyle_Jared Posted April 11, 2014 at 03:34 PM Posted April 11, 2014 at 03:34 PM When are you all going to realize we are not getting this video ? Something major is up.... 1 Quote
Lu CelineFan Posted April 11, 2014 at 10:57 PM Posted April 11, 2014 at 10:57 PM When are you all going to realize we are not getting this video ? Something major is up.... And that´s scary 3 Quote Team Céline Dion Brazil@lu_celinefan
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