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Well..Celine could have that Cher-moment because lmbtl still had great potential! I am absolutely sure that if the djs gave her a chance, this could have been a big hit. It is that current sound that Rihanna and Miley have( yes i do not like her either) .It is not only to blame on Sony. First of all, djs do not take her serious,that is the main problem.

 

What I'm saying is that Cher had that moment in 1998/99 because the divas were still everywhere. Celine, Mariah and Whitney were still being played on top 40 in heavy rotation. Cher caught the tail end of the diva popularity with "Believe." When Whitney released her last album in 2009, top 40 radio didn't play her, and it was one of the most anticipated and highly publicized releases of the year. Not to mention, that it wasn't a terrible album and had a few awesome songs that were radio friendly. The demand for divas just isn't there anymore, no matter how cool or fresh the sound of their songs are. Cher's new songs aren't being played on top 40 either. The top 40 demographic just doesn't want them anymore.

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Top 40 radios don't generally play women over 40. No wonder it's called TOP 40!! :giggle:

LOL! :sofunny:

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I totally understand everyone wanting Celine to do well and everything, but why can't we just enjoy the album as an album instead of thinking about "what could have been" if Sony did this, or if Sony did that? It's a fantastic album, and for being released in November still became of the best selling female albums in 2013. That's still a big deal. Celine's just not going to have another hey day like Cher did. Cher caught the tail end of the diva train with "Believe." It was a right place, right time kind of situation. We all know Celine is still the best. We are all also used to things being postponed. I say just sit back and enjoy "Loved Me Back To Life." We waited too long for it to spend our time b*tching and moaning bout it's "lack of promo" or it's "less than stellar" sales figures.

 

I wouldn't call this b*tching and moaning, I would call it critical feedback on the LMBTL era. Yes, the album is amazing. But also, the promo has been really lackluster. "Lack of promo" and "less than stellar sales figures" will mean less push or urgency for Céline to get back in the studio and record more music which means we'll probably we waiting more than 6 years for her next English album. LTAL wasn't supposed to happen until FIY was such a huge success and they got her back in the studio to release a follow up. If this album had provided a bit of a resurgence in her career (that it COULD have had given the response from "The Voice" performance), there would be more singles, more videos, etc. They would potentially be planning to be back in the studio next year to record the follow-up to LMBTL or SA or both. Now, they can't seem to release a video that is COMPLETE and promo is basically over in the US and is "quiet" at best elsewhere.

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I wouldn't call this b*tching and moaning, I would call it critical feedback on the LMBTL era. Yes, the album is amazing. But also, the promo has been really lackluster. "Lack of promo" and "less than stellar sales figures" will mean less push or urgency for Céline to get back in the studio and record more music which means we'll probably we waiting more than 6 years for her next English album. LTAL wasn't supposed to happen until FIY was such a huge success and they got her back in the studio to release a follow up. If this album had provided a bit of a resurgence in her career (that it COULD have had given the response from "The Voice" performance), there would be more singles, more videos, etc. They would potentially be planning to be back in the studio next year to record the follow-up to LMBTL or SA or both. Now, they can't seem to release a video that is COMPLETE and promo is basically over in the US and is "quiet" at best elsewhere.

 

But if we're going by what you are saying, then she would have stopped recording in English after "One Heart" which sold almost 5 million less worldwide than ANDHC, and then "Taking Chances" sold almost 2 millon less than "One Heart." Now LMBTL has sold about 2 million less than "Taking Chances." There wasn't a weaker sense of urgency to record LMBTL because it took 6 years to release or because of the lower sales of "Taking Chances." Celine went on a year long world tour after releasing "Taking Chances" AND a 5 year run in Vegas. She then took a break to have the twins, while there were already talks of recording a new album back in 2010. That's only 3 years after "Taking Chances" was released, and only 1 year after she came off the tour. They came up with the rumored "nightgown" concept, and then Celine was put on bed rest during her pregnancy and then she started her new show in 2011. Then they started to record the album, and came up with the "Water and a Flame" concept in 2012...they postponed the album until 2013 that September, because again, the concept of the album changed. The length of time that it took to release this album had absolutely nothing to do with lackluster sales of the previous albums she put out.

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Stonewall Sensation - Season 15

Originally written and performed by Coldplay

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Top 40 radios don't generally play women over 40. No wonder it's called TOP 40!! :giggle:

So true!

 

Top 40 radios play women over 40 only if they're duetting with younger singers like Pitbull and Nicki Minaj.

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So true!

 

Top 40 radios play women over 40 only if they're duetting with younger singers like Pitbull and Nicki Minaj.

...Or Ne-yo. Wait!

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...Or Ne-yo. Wait!

Ne-Yo doesn't have the ''Hit'' power that Pitbull has. Sure Ne-Yo can score a Top10 Hit once in a while (as a lead artist he only scored 3 Top10 Hits during the past 6 years) but that's pretty much all. His duets with Celine, Mariah Carey, Cassandra Steen and Jennifer Hudson went nowhere.

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Ne-Yo doesn't have the ''Hit'' power that Pitbull has. Sure Ne-Yo can score a Top10 Hit once in a while (as a lead artist he only scored 3 Top10 Hits during the past 6 years) but that's pretty much all. His duets with Celine, Mariah Carey, Cassandra Steen and Jennifer Hudson went nowhere.

 

you're forgetting Rihanna

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She is doing a Beyonce, all the videos at the same time.

 

Ahahaha excellent!

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Celine is focusing on her family. She has 3 young children & an older husband recovering from cancer surgery. She did a substantial amount of promoting in the fall & is now taking time to be with her family. And I'm glad. Of course I'd like to see more promotion, but I think the best thing for her now is to be with her family & enjoy this time. I think we all need to take a step back & think about the bigger picture here.

 

Well, you're totally right and I apologize if I was rude. Truth is that maybe Rene is done with his job as her manager, I don't want to be disrespectful but he should acknowledge that...

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It's a genuine shame it has turned out this way. Probably since the "Miracle" days many of us have been crying out for a "young hip" collaboration. We finally got it and it appears Sony lost all faith when the song didn't rocket after The Voice appearance.

 

A genuine shame but perhaps time to move on from "Incredible."

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It's a genuine shame it has turned out this way. Probably since the "Miracle" days many of us have been crying out for a "young hip" collaboration. We finally got it and it appears Sony lost all faith when the song didn't rocket after The Voice appearance.

 

A genuine shame but perhaps time to move on from "Incredible."

 

I agree with the above bold statement. I'd like to see the fans start concentrating their efforts on "Somebody Loves Somebody." That way, it will hopefully become a successful Summer single. Plus, I think it could work great in her Vegas show if done right. (Yes, I'm going to sound like a broken record for a while. LOL)

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But if we're going by what you are saying, then she would have stopped recording in English after "One Heart" which sold almost 5 million less worldwide than ANDHC, and then "Taking Chances" sold almost 2 millon less than "One Heart." Now LMBTL has sold about 2 million less than "Taking Chances." There wasn't a weaker sense of urgency to record LMBTL because it took 6 years to release or because of the lower sales of "Taking Chances." Celine went on a year long world tour after releasing "Taking Chances" AND a 5 year run in Vegas. She then took a break to have the twins, while there were already talks of recording a new album back in 2010. That's only 3 years after "Taking Chances" was released, and only 1 year after she came off the tour. They came up with the rumored "nightgown" concept, and then Celine was put on bed rest during her pregnancy and then she started her new show in 2011. Then they started to record the album, and came up with the "Water and a Flame" concept in 2012...they postponed the album until 2013 that September, because again, the concept of the album changed. The length of time that it took to release this album had absolutely nothing to do with lackluster sales of the previous albums she put out.

 

Oh come on Matt, the album was done a year before it was released with exception of LMBTL and maybe one or two other songs. That's a fact. The only reason for postponing it was because the label didn't care. I'm all for supporting Céline, but let's be realistic. Sony doesn't care about her career anymore. "Talk of recording an album in 2010" means NOTHING if she doesn't actually record.

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It's a genuine shame it has turned out this way. Probably since the "Miracle" days many of us have been crying out for a "young hip" collaboration. We finally got it and it appears Sony lost all faith when the song didn't rocket after The Voice appearance.

 

A genuine shame but perhaps time to move on from "Incredible."

 

"Incredible" is over.

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Oh come on Matt, the album was done a year before it was released with exception of LMBTL and maybe one or two other songs. That's a fact. The only reason for postponing it was because the label didn't care. I'm all for supporting Céline, but let's be realistic. Sony doesn't care about her career anymore. "Talk of recording an album in 2010" means NOTHING if she doesn't actually record.

 

Although I agree with Sony not caring enough about Céline's career, this is not true. The reason for the postponement(s) was in fact (next to Céline having twins) because they DID care. Remember the original (boring) plan and concept was that the album would include 6 Vegas covers and 6 new songs. And if it were for Céline's team, that would've been the case. Except that Sony didn't like it and pushed for an all new original album, which resulted in the delays because they were searching for new songs. And I'm talking about purely the album itself and not about the promotion.

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Sony cares about Celine's career, there are things that could have been done better of course, but even Sony can't make miracles. Many current artists would kill for LMBTL album promotion: Ellen, the Voice finale, UK's most watched tv shows, one of the biggest tv shows in Germany, an excellent promo in France, etc.. what else do you want? Right, there wasn't a videoclip for LMBTL song, but Sony is a business, they have a limit budget and they must make decisions, if they knew that investing in TV promotion would be more profitable than spending money on videos or paying radios to play her (what we know for sure wasn't going to happen even paying) that's what they did, and it worked out, not in the US though, they must rethink the strategy there, but overall the result was as expected.

 

I know it is sad to see a perfect song and single like LMBTL being neglected by radios, but Sony or Celine herself can't do nothing about it... Mariah's album will be out in a couple of weeks, you will see then how healthy Celine's career is compare to her peers

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We have to get used to getting albums every 5 years or so.

Singers who are still building their careers need to release albums more often... but old timers don't...

Because let's face it, money is not in albums anymore (except for a few exceptions like Adele).

Albums = :rip:

 

Shows = Money :Lighten:

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Not having a LMBTL video was the biggest disappointment for me ever. That hurt a lot.

 

Whatever they do with Incredible now I really don't care.

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Not having a LMBTL video was the biggest disappointment for me ever. That hurt a lot.

For me also, I'll never understand that move.....
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Im quite annoyed about the Video for LMBTL too........ Ive had to let it drop... Stupid Stupid Move! Think ill always miss the video as i really do love the song

 

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Im quite annoyed about the Video for LMBTL too........ Ive had to let it drop... Stupid Stupid Move! Think ill always miss the video as i really do love the song

 

Kev x

 

imo it would have been ok if they had released Incredible video and single, the week of the album's release

 

besides LMBTL had a fine Lyric video which has less than 300.000 views...

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Incredible wait... :pinch:

I hope I live to see it :laugh:
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I hope I live to see it :laugh:

 

Both are funny :laugh:

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another week has gone byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy aaaaaa.... :clap: we should start counting, it'd be something opposite to the cutdown till a release - a cutup!:D
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another week has gone byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy aaaaaa.... :clap: we should start counting, it'd be something opposite to the cutdown till a release - a cutup!:D

 

Wooooow :laugh:

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When are you all going to realize we are not getting this video ? Something major is up....
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When are you all going to realize we are not getting this video ? Something major is up....

 

And that´s scary

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