Mariah Carey: Official Topic

[PriscillaBarragan]

-__- I just lost a lot of respect for Mariah.

 

That whole Divas thing; Celine & Aretha were obviously just having a great time. Mariah didn't need to take it so personal. Not to mention Celine sang completely amazing that night....

[dj4celine]

 

Didn't you guys read that the person who made that video made it out of fun? Jeez

[Bellamy]

So the original Mariah interview was about something else?

[Scramasboy]

 

Didn't you guys read that the person who made that video made it out of fun? Jeez

The person who made that is a know it all 15 year old Mariah stan anus hole [hahahaha], as noted by me from our countless run ins on Celine's videos in the past 3 years where it does nothing but talk bullshit about Celine, her voice, technique, talent, and why she is horrible. Tyler seems friendly with it, I try to be and just don't let it fight with me anymore.

 

And this person didn't edit Mariah's words or put words in her mouth. You can't defend it by blaming the user, though the user is a noted Celine hater. For at least a decade now Mariah, just like Aretha has the reputation of being a diva, and acting like a snob, theres no denying it. Mariah couldn't keep up that night and even had her performances, at least My All, dubbed before broadcasting, proof on Youtube. :]

Edited April 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM by Scramasboy

[Scramasboy]

So the original Mariah interview was about something else?

I doubt it.

[Sonne]

The person who made that is a know it all 15 year old Mariah stan anus hole [hahahaha], as noted by me from our countless run ins on Celine's videos in the past 3 years where it does nothing but talk bullshit about Celine, her voice, technique, talent, and why she is horrible. Tyler seems friendly with it, I try to be and just don't let it fight with me anymore.

 

And this person didn't edit Mariah's words or put words in her mouth. You can't defend it by blaming the user, though the user is a noted Celine hater. For at least a decade now Mariah, just like Aretha has the reputation of being a diva, and acting like a snob, theres no denying it. Mariah couldn't keep up that night and even had her performances, at least My All, dubbed before broadcasting, proof on Youtube. :]

 

I too have had problems with this user and got to the place where I had to block him. I don't know what it is about Mariah/Aretha/Whitney stans but they are so darn ignorant. Even when you try to see their side of the argument, they disagree with you. But that user in particular is one of the worst i've ever dealt with.

[RLAAMJR.]

the inteview looks real though. Please show more proof that it was just made and not really true.

[Duchess]

as far as i can see mariah is not saying anything about celine singing with aretha, all she is saying is that she felt that she wasn't worthy to sing with the diva of all diva's ms aretha franklin. not once did she mention celine at all. if she had it in the back of her mind that celine did take on aretha with her rifs and ad libs, then she was polite enough not to mention it. but she just said she did not feel worthy enough to stand on the stage next to her and ad lib and rif with her.

[RLAAMJR.]

as far as i can see mariah is not saying anything about celine singing with aretha, all she is saying is that she felt that she wasn't worthy to sing with the diva of all diva's ms aretha franklin. not once did she mention celine at all. if she had it in the back of her mind that celine did take on aretha with her rifs and ad libs, then she was polite enough not to mention it. but she just said she did not feel worthy enough to stand on the stage next to her and ad lib and rif with her.

 

 

You have a point there but Mariah was specifically talking about Dias Live 1998. If she didn't mean what Celine did then she would have said that she's not talking about Celine but just herself, that she just wants to respect Aretha by letting Aretha sing most of the time.

 

Celine is a showmaster so i wouldn't be surprised if she suddenly looks like she's controlling the show. Cos she really talks to the audience and makes jokes. Aretha also talks to the audience. Mariah also talks to the audience but is more serious and formal.

 

Celine didn't try to compete with Aretha cos if she did, Celine shouldn't echo what Aretha was doing. Why would Celine compete with somebody not on her generation?

 

I really would have enjoyed more if Mariah also belted out since only Celine, Aretha and Mariah can belt out. i was really hopeing for a duet between mariah and celine

[rakesh]

as far as i can see mariah is not saying anything about celine singing with aretha, all she is saying is that she felt that she wasn't worthy to sing with the diva of all diva's ms aretha franklin. not once did she mention celine at all. if she had it in the back of her mind that celine did take on aretha with her rifs and ad libs, then she was polite enough not to mention it. but she just said she did not feel worthy enough to stand on the stage next to her and ad lib and rif with her.

 

 

i think this fan-made video is misinterpreted

i dont see Mariah's comments as a dig at Celine either . i think Mariah was rather responding to comments regarding her "Chain of Fools" performance where she sang only 1/4th [...and looked like she got dumped by Aretha] while Aretha sang 3/4th the song, when it shoulda been 1/2-1/2 !!! i think she just mentioned the "testimony" performance to mention the fact that she was moving towards the back-up singers coz she felt like thats where she belonged when Aretha is on stage

[RLAAMJR.]

Hahaha. The youtube video is getting a lot of comments.

[Sonne]

Hahaha. The youtube video is getting a lot of comments.

 

Dude people are taking it way too seriously..haha

[RLAAMJR.]

Dude people are taking it way too seriously..haha

 

 

yeah but me and Chirmier were talking about something else.as to who is more influential. Aretha or Mariah and Celine. I was telling her that Mariah and Celine are more influential but she keeps on saying that Aretha is.

[Sonne]

yeah but me and Chirmier were talking about something else.as to who is more influential. Aretha or Mariah and Celine. I was telling her that Mariah and Celine are more influential but she keeps on saying that Aretha is.

 

Well of course dear. He's well known for his biased comments.

[RLAAMJR.]

Well of course dear. He's well known for his biased comments.

 

he already stopped me from posting to her video.But it's ok.

[Sonne]

he already stopped me from posting to her video.But it's ok.

 

Yeah i blocked him a week ago. Pay no mind to him, he makes ignorant comments and doesn't see both sides to the argument. Usually he really backs up Aretha and whitney, but in some cases he'll back up Mariah. Never celine though.

[Tyler1991]

Aretha has had more influence than Celine and Mariah put together. End of.

[rakesh]

Aretha has had more influence than Celine and Mariah put together. End of.

 

 

 

 

 

to be fair i think this is true. i really dont like Aretha ...i mean, no disrespect; i just dont like her style of singing. i like me some Pattie Labelle but not a lot of Aretha. But singers like Aretha & Barbra Streisand are the reason why Whitney, Celine, Mariah & even Beyonce & Christina exist

 

i really hav to say that Aretha's performance of 'Nessun Dorma' at 1998 Grammy's was one of the best performances i've ever seen

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DwZ-GMHyho

[RLAAMJR.]

I don't't think she is. I still think Celine and mariah are more influential

[Sonne]

I don't't think she is. I still think Celine and mariah are more influential

When aspiring vocalists think of who they would want to sound like, i'm sure the first person to pop in their mind is either Celine, Mariah, and maybe whitney. In terms of great soul singers, Aretha has been influential. But if we're talking about who's been most influential across all genres as great vocalists, Celine and Mariah win.

[Tyler1991]

There is a hell of a lot more to music than just the voice itself. People have the voice God given them - there influence won't relflect in wanting to sound vocally like another singer. The influence comes in the artistry and musicianship an artist has shown in their songs, their genre, and throughout there career.

 

Aretha, Whitney, Mariah are high up.....Celine is at the very bottom. Her influence starts and ends with Charice.

 

People respect Celine for her voice, but that's about it.

 

Celine has not done anything "Revolutionary" in music. She hasn't knocked walls down, she hasn't created trends, she hasn't done much of anything besides release albums that people enjoy.

 

To say that any of her albums have had an impact on how someone else wants to pursue there career is silly. Her albums have good songs, but nothing that has changed music.

 

She has been a follower in every sense of the word....

[RLAAMJR.]

There is a hell of a lot more to music than just the voice itself. People have the voice God given them - there influence won't relflect in wanting to sound vocally like another singer. The influence comes in the artistry and musicianship an artist has shown in their songs, their genre, and throughout there career.

 

Aretha, Whitney, Mariah are high up.....Celine is at the very bottom. Her influence starts and ends with Charice.

 

People respect Celine for her voice, but that's about it.

 

Celine has not done anything "Revolutionary" in music. She hasn't knocked walls down, she hasn't created trends, she hasn't done much of anything besides release albums that people enjoy.

 

To say that any of her albums have had an impact on how someone else wants to pursue there career is silly. Her albums have good songs, but nothing that has changed music.

 

She has been a follower in every sense of the word....

 

 

 

Celine and mariah are more influential, that's why they're more known around the world. If you're talking about singing similar to them, then i'd still say Aretha is not up because I've never heard popular filipino singers stating they were influenced by Aretha but someone else. That would be the case on other countries where Aretha isn't even known. the younger generations, especially those who have been teens on the 90's would really say they were influenced by Celine and Mariah.

[Tyler1991]

Being known around the world has not a damn bit of correlation to a person's influence in the music business.

 

Mariah has the shittiest international career of any artist out there, yet she has a lot of influence. She can't even sell out a high school gymnasium in the USA, so I doubt she would manage even a janitor's closet in Europe.

 

Celine on the other hand has an amazing international career, similar to Madonna or Michael Jackson, yet look.....name three people who cite Celine has an influence....

 

If you take a look at who people cite as infleunces, Celine's numbers will be drastically lower than Mariah, Whitney, Aretha, and anyone else.

 

I just don't understand your argument here. Success does NOT mean influence. Success is based off of fans. Influence is based off of other artists. The two couldn't be further apart.

[Sonne]

Celine and mariah are more influential, that's why they're more known around the world. If you're talking about singing similar to them, then i'd still say Aretha is not up because I've never heard popular filipino singers stating they were influenced by Aretha but someone else. That would be the case on other countries where Aretha isn't even known. the younger generations, especially those who have been teens on the 90's would really say they were influenced by Celine and Mariah.

 

From my perspective, influence goes hand and hand with inspiration. When it comes to song writing, Mariah has influenced me to go further in my song writing by her ability to tap into deep emotions in her songs. You can't numerically judge influence, so i'll be fair in saying that all artists have influenced at least someone in their lifetime and that we can't judge who is most influential.

[Frida]

Heard her twins were safely delivered toady, congrats to the lucky parents

[RLAAMJR.]

Being known around the world has not a damn bit of correlation to a person's influence in the music business.

 

Mariah has the shittiest international career of any artist out there, yet she has a lot of influence. She can't even sell out a high school gymnasium in the USA, so I doubt she would manage even a janitor's closet in Europe.

 

Celine on the other hand has an amazing international career, similar to Madonna or Michael Jackson, yet look.....name three people who cite Celine has an influence....

 

If you take a look at who people cite as infleunces, Celine's numbers will be drastically lower than Mariah, Whitney, Aretha, and anyone else.

 

I just don't understand your argument here. Success does NOT mean influence. Success is based off of fans. Influence is based off of other artists. The two couldn't be further apart.

 

 

Being known around the world would also mean more people have been influenced by a particular artist. Supposing only 50 million people know Aretha, and 40 million of them were influenced by Aretha and then 100 million people know Celine Dion and 50 million were influenced by Celine Dion, so Celine is still more influential.

[rakesh]

 

NEW YORK - Mariah Carey and Nick Cannon celebrated their third anniversary with another milestone — becoming parents to a baby girl and boy.

 

Carey's representative, Cindi Berger, confirmed the births to The Associated Press. The singing superstar gave birth Saturday at 12:07 p.m. EDT at an undisclosed hospital in Los Angeles. Berger says the baby girl was born first, weighing 5 pounds, 3 ounces, and was 18 inches long; her brother was next, at 5 pounds 6 ounces, and was 19 inches.

 

Berger says the couple has not named the children yet. Cannon drove Carey to the hospital in their Rolls-Royce Phantom. Berger said the 41-year-old Carey, who had gone through false labor, was calm, thinking that it was another false alarm.

 

Meanwhile, the 30-year-old Cannon was so nervous he went to the wrong department at the hospital, and was guided to the maternity ward by a nurse.

 

"It was like right out of an 'I Love Lucy' skit," said Berger.

 

Berger says they were listening to Carey's "We Belong Together" after the children were born.

 

The couple are expected to renew their wedding vows on Sunday. The pair got married in 2007 after a whirlwind romance. They were the subject of endless baby rumors, and the couple actually were expecting shortly after their marriage, but Carey had a miscarriage; they did not reveal the miscarriage until she announced her pregnancy last fall.

 

The couple plan to live a bi-coastal life, and have luxurious nurseries in both New York and Los Angeles.

 

As far as more children, Carey recently declared she's done.

[dj4celine]

Regarding the previous video, I'm not even going to bother commenting as it is just made for fun, and yes, the interview is entirely different where she was promoting 'Butterfly/#1's' and she was asked about Divas's Live. She was replying how she would not even dare to sing when Aretha's on stage. She was very humble about it. If you want to know who the biggest DIVA was that night, check the VH1 All Access video posted in the other thread where they mention about Aretha being the one and that it was Mariah, who was being very good and humble that night and that they all got along quite well (except Aretha)and it was the press who cooked up the whole rivalry thing between her and Celine and then the fans without even knowing what the truth was, just lapped it up and the whole war has been going on since then. Stupid IMO! Also on the VH1 Access, they also mention how it was Celine who was trying to best the rest in the 'You've Got A Friend" group song and was trying to sing in just too much and Carole King had to tell her to STFU. So its weird when Celine fans, without even knowing the whole truth, just jump in the hate-Mariah wagon and b!tc# about her

 

 

There is a hell of a lot more to music than just the voice itself. People have the voice God given them - there influence won't relflect in wanting to sound vocally like another singer. The influence comes in the artistry and musicianship an artist has shown in their songs, their genre, and throughout there career.

 

Aretha, Whitney, Mariah are high up.....Celine is at the very bottom. Her influence starts and ends with Charice.

 

People respect Celine for her voice, but that's about it.

 

Celine has not done anything "Revolutionary" in music. She hasn't knocked walls down, she hasn't created trends, she hasn't done much of anything besides release albums that people enjoy.

 

To say that any of her albums have had an impact on how someone else wants to pursue there career is silly. Her albums have good songs, but nothing that has changed music.

 

She has been a follower in every sense of the word....

 

 

Preach, brother!

 

 

 

and..

 

 

 

CONGRATS to Mariah and Nick!

[RLAAMJR.]

Regarding the previous video, I'm not even going to bother commenting as it is just made for fun, and yes, the interview is entirely different where she was promoting 'Butterfly/#1's' and she was asked about Divas's Live. She was replying how she would not even dare to sing when Aretha's on stage. She was very humble about it. If you want to know who the biggest DIVA was that night, check the VH1 All Access video posted in the other thread where they mention about Aretha being the one and that it was Mariah, who was being very good and humble that night and that they all got along quite well (except Aretha)and it was the press who cooked up the whole rivalry thing between her and Celine and then the fans without even knowing what the truth was, just lapped it up and the whole war has been going on since then. Stupid IMO! Also on the VH1 Access, they also mention how it was Celine who was trying to best the rest in the 'You've Got A Friend" group song and was trying to sing in just too much and Carole King had to tell her to STFU. So its weird when Celine fans, without even knowing the whole truth, just jump in the hate-Mariah wagon and b!tc# about her

 

Preach, brother!

and..

CONGRATS to Mariah and Nick!

 

 

and how many people were involved stating that the biggest diva was Aretha??? in our community, let me just say in our country, only a few knows Aretha and the biggest diva on that show would be Celine. She unquestionably has the most beautiful voice by listening You've got a friend.

 

 

 

Mariah was humble there but i prefer her singing out. Besides, Mariah's voice wasn't sounding good when she sang. so like what i've said before, her voice might not have been in god condition that time.

Edited May 1, 2011 at 12:26 AM by RLAAMJR.

[Sonne]

Being known around the world would also mean more people have been influenced by a particular artist. Supposing only 50 million people know Aretha, and 40 million of them were influenced by Aretha and then 100 million people know Celine Dion and 50 million were influenced by Celine Dion, so Celine is still more influential.

 

I agree with you that Celine & Mariah are more well-known than Aretha. But i still think we can't numerically judge influence. But we can judge who has more popularity and the answer is obvious

 

 

 

But congrats to Mariah for giving birth today...on her anniversary.