"Taking Chances" ALBUM on the charts

[Bellamy]

Celine' TC is a flop, her albums sales have only decreased since 2000 and the TC tour is not selling, she hasn't been able to sell out one single show in Bercy whereas Madonna sold out her show in Stade de France where a date was added. Furthermore, Madonna's Hard Candy has been number one in the world for four weeks and the single 4 Minutes has been number one for seven weeks. Celine's last very big hit was My Heart Will Go On 10 years ago.

 

Sorry guys, it's over, she's declining... Sony will drop her soon.

LOL, drama queen.

[nick1975]

no, just being realistic

I hate this as much as you, believe me

[alextrusca]

yes, she is one bad FLOP!!!!

 

 

she should retire and make 20 kids with....hmmm..Runey?

[Bellamy]

Madonna didn't sold many more albums than Celine comparing their week to week sales. Celine is never a single seller. Compare now with MHWGO is just wrong. No one can do it again.

[nick1975]

ohhh, if I were you' I would go back and look at the numbers...

and yes, the MHWGO kinda success still occurrs...

[alextrusca]

and example is Rihanna Umbrella :giggle: :giggle:

[Bellamy]

I'm sure Vinny would post the exact week to week numbers soon. Since Celine sold more than Mariah, Mariah and Madonna are having a tight competition now. I'm sure the numbers are very close. I'm talking about worldwide sales, not in one country only.

[nick1975]

well, the real official figures for worldwide sales for their carreers (Celine, Madonna and Mariah) are not available at IFPI unless you pay to have them; I'm talking about wolrdwide sucess over the last 10 years, you must admit that Celine has decreased a lot whereas the other two (Mariah and Madonna) are more stable and managed to have many number ones (album and single) Edited May 30, 2008 at 02:31 PM by nick1975

[anewdayhascome]

so why are you her fan? sorry you don't have to complain just enjoy the music if you really like it

[Bellamy]

I'm talking about "Taking Chances" and "Hard Candy" worldwide week to week sales number. Celine can laugh out loud at the poor "American Life" or "Glitter" sales from Madonna or Mariah during last decade.

[dj4celine]

well, the real official figures for worldwide sales for their carreers (Celine, Madonna and Mariah) are not available at IFPI unless you pay to have them;

Exactly! No one would know the real figures cos it's a very complicated thing. And not even the IFPI would be able to give details about the sales of so many countries that do not manage or document the sales/shipments.

 

I'm talking about wolrdwide sucess over the last 10 years, you must admit that Celine has decreased a lot whereas the other two (Mariah and Madonna) are more stable and managed to have many number ones (album and single)

 

That is because that the promotion from Celine's team has been pathetic and the choice of wrong/late release of singles have been a major factor. As for the stable numbers, ANDHC and OH has sold decently enough and was the 5th and 10th best selling albums worldwide in the year of their releases. As for TCh, it was the 18th (if I'm not wrong) best selling album even though it was released in November. As for garnering number one singles, Celine was never a singles artist as mentioned before but that hasn't stopped her albums from selling in large numbers. Mariah Carey's and Madonna's singles sales have added to their total sales and if we compare the albums, Celine still tops them and by a huge margin.

 

Like Bellamy said, we should compare their week by week sales to get the clear picture. And for that there are thread for Madonna's as well as Mariah's new album and from what we've seen, TCh still tops them if copared worldwide. If certain locations are considered, thy may have a slight edge. But it's better if we let someone who follows the charts closely (like Max and Vinny) to bring out the official numbers.

 

And we CANNOT compare the success of MHWGO cos that was 10 years ago and I doubt that any song would be that big now.

[nick1975]

Unfortunately, this is not accurate. TC's promotion is not bad, Sony deliberately chose to minimize the promotion because of the album's poor quality and sales. Artistically, it isn't a good album. They have done better with Celine. Also, Celine's album sales are not as high as they claim and she isn't the biggest selling female artist, Madonna is; go find the numbers other than the ones provided by record companies.

 

Celine's album was released for the Holiday season, but the sales are poor, very poor. Madonna's Hard Candy was released 4 weeks ago, and it has already sold half of what TC had sold in 7 months.

 

Also, how come the tour is not a sell out? There has got to be an explanation other than Sony's lack of promotion and people uploading videos on YouTube! Could it be that Celine hasn't evolved artistically and that fans are less and less interested?

 

And as for American Life and Glitter, I would think the same thing happened to Celine, only it happaned for all of her albums released since 2003...

[emi&celine]

Don't compare Hard Candy and Taking Chances.

Of course, HC has been #1 for four weeks...but has NO rival

Whereas TC had to deal with Alicia and Josh

[Angel, You thrill me]

Unfortunately, this is not accurate. TC's promotion is not bad, Sony deliberately chose to minimize the promotion because of the album's poor quality and sales. Artistically, it isn't a good album. They have done better with Celine. Also, Celine's album sales are not as high as they claim and she isn't the biggest selling female artist, Madonna is; go find the numbers other than the ones provided by record companies.

 

Celine's album was released for the Holiday season, but the sales are poor, very poor. Madonna's Hard Candy was released 4 weeks ago, and it has already sold half of what TC had sold in 7 months.

 

Also, how come the tour is not a sell out? There has got to be an explanation other than Sony's lack of promotion and people uploading videos on YouTube! Could it be that Celine hasn't evolved artistically and that fans are less and less interested?

 

And as for American Life and Glitter, I would think the same thing happened to Celine, only it happaned for all of her albums released since 2003...

 

are you sure your a celine fan?

[VinnyT.]

I'm sure Vinny would post the exact week to week numbers soon. Since Celine sold more than Mariah, Mariah and Madonna are having a tight competition now. I'm sure the numbers are very close. I'm talking about worldwide sales, not in one country only.

Of course are not official from IFP but they are all estimations .

BTW:

Celine according to United World Chart (the same site which mariah's and madonna's fans take in consideration) Celine in 6 weeks sold 1.833.000 copies, Mariah in 6 weeks sold 1.401.000 copies. And talking about real sales and not estimations Celine in 4 weeks in Usa sold more than Madonna same for UK and Canada

 

I think I've been clear enough!

[DuonganhCDF]

Unfortunately, this is not accurate. TC's promotion is not bad, Sony deliberately chose to minimize the promotion because of the album's poor quality and sales. Artistically, it isn't a good album. They have done better with Celine. Also, Celine's album sales are not as high as they claim and she isn't the biggest selling female artist, Madonna is; go find the numbers other than the ones provided by record companies.

 

Celine's album was released for the Holiday season, but the sales are poor, very poor. Madonna's Hard Candy was released 4 weeks ago, and it has already sold half of what TC had sold in 7 months.

 

Also, how come the tour is not a sell out? There has got to be an explanation other than Sony's lack of promotion and people uploading videos on YouTube! Could it be that Celine hasn't evolved artistically and that fans are less and less interested?

 

And as for American Life and Glitter, I would think the same thing happened to Celine, only it happaned for all of her albums released since 2003...

 

 

Personally I love Taking chances album. And I only buy cds I love personally, not artistically.

 

Celine surely has sold more albums than Madonna but loses to single sales.

 

TC was released during Holiday and HC has a strong supporter: Confession on a dance floor.

 

I myself and many other fans I know still cares a lot and more and more for Celine but we cant afford the tickets. And are you sure that all Madonna fans bought the tickets of sold out shows? Or most of the buyer are scalpers, maybe?

 

Well, Celine maybe has always been a flop(to you) and she still sells more than 3m albums of TC(plus the hit DVD AND). MC and Madonna had strong previous albums but they are having a hard time to manage to sell as much as Celine does now.

[VinnyT.]

Well, Celine maybe has always been a flop(to you) and she still sells more than 3m albums of TC(plus the hit DVD AND). MC and Madonna had strong previous albums but they are having a hard time to manage to sell as much as Celine does now.

 

sure! well said! you have to think that with hard candy in UK in 1 month Madonna wasnt able to sell neither the debut of Confessions(220k)...And honestly maybe she will never get 1 platinum in Usa after 1 month hard candy in Usa sold around 467.000 copies and next week in her 5th week she is supposed to sell around 33-38k

It's a very hard time for everyone!

[amelie]

Unfortunately, this is not accurate. TC's promotion is not bad, Sony deliberately chose to minimize the promotion because of the album's poor quality and sales. Artistically, it isn't a good album. They have done better with Celine. Also, Celine's album sales are not as high as they claim and she isn't the biggest selling female artist, Madonna is; go find the numbers other than the ones provided by record companies.

 

Celine's album was released for the Holiday season, but the sales are poor, very poor. Madonna's Hard Candy was released 4 weeks ago, and it has already sold half of what TC had sold in 7 months.

 

Also, how come the tour is not a sell out? There has got to be an explanation other than Sony's lack of promotion and people uploading videos on YouTube! Could it be that Celine hasn't evolved artistically and that fans are less and less interested?

 

And as for American Life and Glitter, I would think the same thing happened to Celine, only it happaned for all of her albums released since 2003...

 

i'll be the 1st to criticise Celine and i think you're right that Celine's popularity has only declined during this decade and that unfotunately she hasn't evolved much but neither Taking Chances quality nor sales are 'poor' nor her previous albums sales. I also deny to believe that Sony CHOSE to minimize the promotion cause of low quality, they're plain stupid. And Celine's album sales are higher than madonnas and mariah's but when you add singles madonna is a bit ahead (but also 10 years older). And DON'T TELL ME that HARD CANDY and E=MC^2 's quality are higher than Taking Chances or that Madonna and Mariah have evolved artistically with their latest albums cause i'll laugh my #ss off

 

PS.. its obvious you're a madonna fan... (love ray of light and american life btw)

Edited May 30, 2008 at 07:49 PM by amelie

[willy68]

i'm an italian boy and live near milan. Celine is the best singer in the world now and the future!! Mariah and new album are now the big big flop!! you are sure to be fans celine dion???? mah!!!!

[amelie]

i'm an italian boy and live near milan. Celine is the best singer in the world now and the future!! Mariah and new album are now the big big flop!! you are sure to be fans celine dion???? mah!!!!

 

a 40 yo boy...from italy...who could this be...

[DuonganhCDF]

i'm an italian boy and live near milan. Celine is the best singer in the world now and the future!! Mariah and new album are now the big big flop!! you are sure to be fans celine dion???? mah!!!!

 

a 40 yo boy...from italy...who could this be...

 

The 40 Year Old Virgin

[Xpresso]

To Nick1975 (or Madonna groupie) ... you should do your homework before writing wrong information like you did.

Madonna's new album is a big hype in terms of marketing (she is getting lots of free romo thanks to J. Timberlake... but Sony's promotion is very minimal when you compare Hard Candy and Taking Chances) but Hard Candy hasn't sold more than Celine's Taking Chances and I don't think it will. Keep on dreaming...

 

By the way, I saw Celine's show in Paris and it was a full house!!

[Black Kitten]

i think Nick1975 is on a mission.

[jackydion]

mariah 5 weeks 1500000

celine 4 weeks 1350000---------5 weeks 1630000----------------6 weeks 1990000------------7 weeks 2190000

madonna 5 weeks 1700000

 

let us chenk it out!!!!!!!!!!

[nick1975]

I'm a French Quebecer from Montreal and I am not a to-die-for Madonna fan, neither am I on a mission. I'm a Celine Dion fan and I am so pround of what she's done. Come on, we're from the same country, I've seen her for the first time on TV in 1981.

 

The problem is that I am fed up with the information we get from the media in Quebec. They tend to exagerate her sucess and it seems that no one is allowed to tell that things are not doing as good as they used to.

 

I am extremely admirative of her art and I want her to succeed, but I need it to be true, not fake.

 

I look at numbers, I look at promotional strategies, I compare it with other female artists sucess and I can't pretend that it's all going well. Her tour is not selling as it should be, her new album does not play on the radio and people on the street are moking her more and more (in a bad way). Historically, when these things happen, it is a decline and I need to share and express it, so I will be less disapointed. I am sorry if what I wrote offended any of you because it was so not my intention.

[amelie]

I'm a French Quebecer from Montreal and I am not a to-die-for Madonna fan, neither am I on a mission. I'm a Celine Dion fan and I am so pround of what she's done. Come on, we're from the same country, I've seen her for the first time on TV in 1981.

 

The problem is that I am fed up with the information we get from the media in Quebec. They tend to exagerate her sucess and it seems that no one is allowed to tell that things are not doing as good as they used to.

 

I am extremely admirative of her art and I want her to succeed, but I need it to be true, not fake.

 

I look at numbers, I look at promotional strategies, I compare it with other female artists sucess and I can't pretend that it's all going well. Her tour is not selling as it should be, her new album does not play on the radio and people on the street are moking her more and more (in a bad way). Historically, when these things happen, it is a decline and I need to share and express it, so I will be less disapointed. I am sorry if what I wrote offended any of you because it was so not my intention.

 

i don't disagree with that and probably many here don't, but the way the 1st post was written felt you were somewhat happy about that. she's not a flop the problem is her current commercial success is a result of her past "artistic" successes and not todays (at all)

 

its hards to repeat the commercial success of the 90s, i mean its hard to be constantly no1 (not sell 30million copies) but she's not even trying, neither to have a commercially successful cd neither an artistic milestone, i guess taking chances and D'elles tried to be each. and as projects they weren't far from their goal but the promotion was just :sick:

Edited May 31, 2008 at 08:39 AM by amelie

[Krys]

and as projects they weren't far from their goal but the promotion was just :sick:

 

you can say that again...it shows cuz during the concert. the audience dont recognize the new songs. its pretty obvious from their body language

[Prince Whiskers]

Celine sold more than 1.8M copies in 6 weeks, Mariah sold 1.4M in as many weeks.

 

Madonna is close to 1.6M after 4 weeks, Celine sold more than 2M after 7 weeks. Can Madge sell 500k in the next 3 weeks to surpass Celine? That remains to be seen but on her 4th week, Madge sold less than 200k, and like what others have already pointed out, she ain't on the way to matching the numbers of TCH in the US.

[willy68]

DUONGANHCDF who could this be? I'm the 40 year old virgin? congratulations, you englishes make always acknowledge!!!!

[nick1975]

Celine sold more than 1.8M copies in 6 weeks, Mariah sold 1.4M in as many weeks.

 

Madonna is close to 1.6M after 4 weeks, Celine sold more than 2M after 7 weeks. Can Madge sell 500k in the next 3 weeks to surpass Celine? That remains to be seen but on her 4th week, Madge sold less than 200k, and like what others have already pointed out, she ain't on the way to matching the numbers of TCH in the US.

 

 

right

but, Madonna's album will be backed by a strong second single, Taking Chances wasn't. Hard Candy seems to have a better response with radio airplay (worldwide I mean) and the first single is doing more than well and the show is selling out.

 

There is still something I cannot explain though, why is it that radio stations did not play Celine's second single more? Is it because the TC single did not do well enough?